What Will Tarik Skubal Cost The Tigers? | Costa and Jansen

What Will Tarik Skubal Cost The Tigers? | Costa and Jansen

Happy Halloween. Good morning 971. You made it to Friday. Mentioned we had an update on the Terk Scooel front. Mhm. This is from John Haymon who had the initial report that the two sides were a quarter billion dollars apart. John, he says the Tigers offer, hard to believe, was four years and 80 million bucks. Does he give a specific timeline of when that offer was made? Right? Because if he’s going back to and I gotta believe if he just says last year. All right. Was this offer made before TK Scubble won his first Sai Young? Before before last season, before the 24 season, because he could be using semantics here, right? And well, it was made last year. Okay. Well, that was that in December of last year or was it in January? January of that year. Yeah, John. I guess I don’t know if it’s true. And I’ll stress if it’s true because you know how this is going to go. This is going to turn into a PR battle. If it’s true, the Tigers are out of touch because it’s a laughably embarrassingly bad offer for a player of Terco’s caliber. It’s a non-serious rinky dink minor league offer. Okay. If it’s true, if it’s true. All right. So, let me ask you this. If it’s true that they offered this prior to the season because what did they do with Cole Keith, right? They gave him the minor league contract and they wrapped him up for six years. Yeah. If they were trying to get ahead because they knew what they had or they anticipated they knew what they had and they were trying to sign him for four years and get him wrapped up before he even won a Sai Young, let alone two. Do you think it’s rinky dink if they offered it to him be going into last year when they didn’t have to? Cole Keith got a six-year deal. Four is a little weird where you want a guy to buy out two years of arbitration in exchange for two years of free agency. That’s not how things work. And you’re going to ask a guy to take well below market value and give up prime years. You wait forever to hit free agency in Major League Baseball. It’s been well documented. Scott Boris is your agent. the not even to offer $100 million for a player Terrick Scooble’s caliber. And again, all we’re getting is what we believe is the Boris Scooble camp, right? The Tigers are more than welcome to leak to any friendly reporters that they’d like to try to counter this narrative because the narrative looks like they’re cheap, but do they care about the narrative? Maybe they don’t. I mean, they they obviously have their plan in place. And whe whether that is, hey, we’re going to offer him whatever it takes to keep him, or maybe their plan all along was we’ll get what we can out of him and then before he hits his last year of arbitration, we’ll trade him. Is that where your head’s at right now? I kind of think that’s where I don’t think that the the the Tigers are going to give him a record contract. And I don’t know that they should. And I’m curious as well because it’s it’s such a unique situation and a lot of Tigers fans minds were you got to keep scubable no matter what. And then the seventh inning of game five happened. And I think there’s a lot of people that looked at that and said over one inning we don’t want him anymore. And I and and and right or wrong, I agree with you. I think a lot of people have held that up and as a turning point and this is where we don’t know what is fact. Well, all we have to go off of is the eye contact that AJ looked into the deep into the eyes of TKO and knew before that sixth inning that he only had one inning left. Go give us everything you’ve got, Tiger, and then we’re going to take you out. Like I don’t know. I don’t know what to believe. And I know people have speculated, is this like a behind the scenes agreement between the organization and the agent? Hey, you’re not going to throw my guy out there for 120 pitches? You’re not going to do it before you make a significant commitment to him. I I don’t know. I mean, it’s led people to speculate because it was so jarring. Like, whoa, this guy’s pitching one of the great games in postseason history and his last pitch was over 100 miles an hour. And maybe that was the last of it that he had. But you want to go down with him trying to make people swing. Go down swinging with him throwing, swinging, missed stuff because the alternative is Finnegan comes in and gives up a hit in a walk and now you’re deep into the bullpen and you give up the lead and you’re going into a 15 inning. Yeah. Battle. Battle, right? And and here, okay, so we if he had pitched the seventh inning, we have no idea. Does it play out the same way? Maybe it it might. And if it does, I don’t know. I I think we’re we’re all looking at it going, I would rather lose with Terk Scubble on the mound than anyone else. I don’t think people would hold it against him if he came out for the seventh and gave up a couple hits or a hit in a walk and got pulled. Agree. They go, “All right, he gave him everything he had.” And that’s what the team has said he did. He gave him everything he had. It just wasn’t didn’t have enough left in the tank to go out for another inning. So that that brings up the next thing like if he doesn’t have enough, is he worth it? Yeah. Here’s what I think’s going to happen. And I don’t have any sources. I’m not buddies with Scott Boris or Scott Harris. I think they’re going to keep Terubel for next year and they’re going to play out the season. I think they’re going to do enough in their mind to justify keeping him. They’re going to add something and in their mind it will be enough to justify taking a run at the World Series with him. That’s what I think is going to happen. And I think they will lose him for nothing. So, it’s a one shot. So, if that’s the path you think they go, Mhm. how much are they willing to spend on the roster this year? Not as much as we want them to, but enough to make them feel good about it. I think it sets up for a a Bregman type contract offer to a free agent from last year. So, you overpay a one-year deal. One of those free agents that’s looking just to pop a big one season contract and be a free agent still. That’s what this sets up for to keep school. I don’t believe this report. I think it’s crap. Yeah. Honestly, I think Scott Boris for the second time has planted something in the last 3 weeks out in the media because he’s trying to gear this thing to get a trade for the winter meetings which are a month away. You’re seeing outlandish you’re seeing outlandish reports come out. You saw a the first one was a replant from last year with the 250 difference, right? You know, he is aggressively trying to get this out there to try to force a trade at the deadline. We have no idea what the Tigers want to do. The only other thing here, if I’m if you want to be a conspiracy theorist, is that the Tigers planted this and they’re planning this out there to try to get school to walk away from Boris, which people have done recently. Cal Rally being the latest and greatest example of that. Boris has not delivered on all of his clients the way that he may have promised. Yeah, I don’t believe that either. There’s some tin foil to that, but sure. I mean, while we’re just a couple dudes talking, this is I can’t believe the Tigers would do this. Jim, you nailed it. It is it’s just would be Bush League. Rinky dink is the word, right? If he wins a Sai Young award and they offer him four for 80 like no I I just I don’t believe it either. He This starts with him being the highest paid pitcher annually in baseball which would be north of 40 million a year. Yeah. 20. I don’t care who you are, whether you’re Scott Morris or or Scott Harris. It starts there. He’s the best pitcher in baseball. How about this ticket text? It’s from Mack in Detroit. He says, “Guys, they gave Alex Cobb 15 million. You really think they only offered Trick 20? Be better Heymon. This can’t be true. Yeah. And and Okay, so let’s go back to your guy, Ken Miada. What was he making? Uh, too much money. Well, yeah, but I mean it was 11 million bucks, something like that. Yeah, 11 million bucks a year. And and and it’s a great point like you know Cobb who never had one pitch for the Tigers this year. They’re going to offer him 15 to entice him out of retirement. And the the a guy that just won the Sai Young and we all thought going into the season was going to win another and probably will that they’re going to offer him 20 a year. It no it doesn’t make any sense. I don’t believe this report at all unless they’re going back to prior to the season, essentially almost two years ago. Right guys, the offer was fake by Scott Boris to start a mud fight in Ann Arbor. My theory, the ploy is to get Harris to defend himself and say what was really offered to set the floor for negotiations with other teams. Jason at home. Scooble took himself out of the game and the season was on the line. And winners don’t do that. He’s not worth it. See, that’s also John, to your point, part of the swirling conversation. We want the guy that’s going to be on the mound and the the AJ goes out and they’re screaming from the mound, I’m not coming out. Like there’s a confrontation. I’m not coming out. I’m going to be out here to win this game. We saw it with Sherzer. That is what Tigers fans want. 2485399797. We got the cookie jar coming up in the 7 o’clock hour. Some Halloween fun. It’s 971.

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