Caleb Williams ‘not good enough’ vs Ravens, Jonathan Taylor MVP, Tush Push banned next season? | FTF

So did I, Ben. So did I. Brewery surprised the Ravens routed the Bears without Lamar. I’m just gonna say this. I, I remember the, the only thing I remember from last week is Danny saying, you better not show up Monday if they lose to my Bears with Lamar. And I, I don’t have a ton to say. I just wanna hear how you can explain. I wanna hear you explain away because these, these guys know when it was announced that Lamar wasn’t playing, I was like he was out. It’s over. I mean, obviously the Bears are gonna win. See you next season. And so I got to hear how in the world you can explain this away. It’s gonna be a struggle. First of all, thank you for your kind text. We don’t text that often. That’s nice. Yeah, but Bruce sent me, he sent me a text. He goes, You shouldn’t show up for work. It’s like and I woke up this morning and I considered it, frankly, I, I considered not coming in. So what that question surprised Ravens routed the Bears without Lamar. Yeah, there is such thing as a stupid question. I mean, of course I’m shocked, but more than surprised and more than shocked. I’m embarrassed. I’m a little embarrassed, and yeah, Nick got to watch the game with me, and that was not the best version of myself. I was, I, I was, I mean, I was, I, I was playing make believe with his older son just to like get outbly proud of how I acted during that game, but I will also just say this like. great show today. I’m watching and you know I’m new part of the First Things first family and you guys have welcomed me with open arms and I try I wanna fit in and you. You have banners and and you have a doorstep of destiny yeah of of destiny and you have T6 and now you have T7 and apparently there was a magician which I’m not sure I fully understood that there was a magic actor. Um, I was so confident when I saw the news that Lamar was out. Brew, this is true. I prepared a bit. I prepared nothing worse than a bit that it’s a bit a bit, yeah, yeah, well, here’s the thing, don’t I got a robe. We have a robe. We have a bear’s gonna I was gonna steal your bit. I was gonna put on a bear’s robe and it gets worse because I don’t have as much juice. you guys to like spend on the budget. You have sandwiches in there, pizza. I was gonna have you make me a pizza. Shout out Lou Malnati’s and this is the worst piece of it because I was prepared fully to mock you for the ping pong. We, we bought a, I had to buy a ping pong table. There’s a ping pong table. I’ve heard. I’ve used the OT’s allotment of a bit budget. It’s, it’s all used up in one game because I’m sorry, Joe Flacco lost. Mac Jones lost. Carson Wentz lost. Backup quarterbacks are supposed to lose. Andy Dalton, Andy Dalton lost and then there. Snoopt Cousins Kirk Cousins, and then there was Snoop Huntley outplaying Kaleb Williams thoroughly. Well, see, that’s yeah, I’m a little shook. I’m a little wasn’t about Snoop. I mean, he did fine. That was great. He got a great win. Good for him. It was about your boy, not. Being able to exploit when and I do believe my the Ravens defense has gotten better, but it hasn’t become elite. I would say so right it’s getting it hopefully it’ll be elite by the end of the, you know, last stretch of the season, but for Caleb, not he threw for a bunch of yards. I’ll give him that, but 0 touchdowns, 1 interception. Nick has already just kicked him to the curb on like years ago earlier he was talking about how it’s your guy and he’s so glad that his guy. No, I mean, it’s just I don’t, I’m not the one that has to answer for this today. Danny is, but here, Danny, here’s my concern, and I give it to you. OK, fine, thanks, because while I’m not the Caleb guy on the show, I am. Are you though? I mean, I certainly, I mean, I mean, I’m never gonna live down putting him on the mountain as a college player. It’s brought up all the time and so I still have a, you know, real ties to him, and I still want to believe, but what do you agree with this, that if The athletic did one of their, you know, like GM surveys that they do. If they did one of those today, and it was re-draft the quarterbacks, yeah, Drake May, Jayden Daniels, Caleb. See, I think, I think today they would take him. I think today I wouldn’t stop. I would not put Bo Nix out of it. But I think today you, it’s certainly Jayden, Drake and Jayden would be the unanimous one and two, like Caleb would get no first or second votes, and I think it’s, it’d be a coin flip who got the most 3rd place votes, or Caleb, and that’s a problem. And we talked about it earlier. You mentioned it. There are touchdowns that Bo just. It looks nice and easy. It’s a nice play design. Bo drops back and throws the ball, and Caleb is at times spectacular and at times said nothing looks easy. Would you agree with that? Like everything looks difficult even when he’s cooking a little bit, you know, he cooks a little bit, but it just doesn’t, no, but it doesn’t look smooth. It doesn’t look easy. I agree completely. He can make. Plays that I really do think only a handful of guys can make like physically right we’ve talked about sometimes he looks that that’s a Patrick Mahomes play or a Josh Allen play and then he makes plays that Brock Purdy, you know what I mean, it’s just like these out all three in a Super Bowl. I’m just saying he, he misses the layups and they listen, they played 7 games. That was their 3rd game where they’ve had more than 10 pounds. Penalties like they sometimes they can’t get the plays in or they’re late to get into the line of scrimmage or they’re false starting and it’s just it’s, it’s all rushed. The the interception to a doomsday was that throw was so late. Like he was late he padded the ball, the running back was wide open in the flat. It was just a miss. It was a terrible play. I still think that Caleb is gonna be very good. I still think Caleb is very talented and not at all a finished product, but. This graphic isn’t great. Like I saw you just remove the Cowboys game entirely. I’ll just do since the Cowboys game because it’s all against defenses that I would expect them to beat. It’s against the Raiders, Commanders, Saints, and Ravens, and man, it’s, it’s not good enough. It is simply not good enough and. It’s just not fair. You gave me the Caleb guy. I want this whole TV thing to work out. I’m like, I’m gonna be the Caleb guy. Yeah, fame and fortune. Long TV career, and now it’s crumbling guy. You got. You got Lamar. I got Mark. Well, you have Drake. Well, I got Drake. I got Mac Jones. But yeah, but Super Bowl champion we’re talking about guys, you have them out there. No, you have Drake and Donald Sam, let me say this quickly, and I don’t wanna get off the subject. I would argue just as an argument for Jayden Daniels in that mystery d or that draft make-believe draft over Drake. Well, the one thing I would give because I think you could easily take Jaden over Drake. The one thing though, I’ll give Drake is just the durability like that and I know last year he had but Jay. Jayden just has, you were right. I mean, hopefully you’re not right, and, and, you know, up to this point, the questions about Jayden’s durability have been real, but here’s what’s so to me that’s the one they both did great in their that’s why. Here’s what’s really interesting about the quarterbacks from that draft, that those four guys we’re talking about the, the, the guys that didn’t believe in them. The reason they didn’t believe in any of those guys have popped for all of them except for Drake at this point. The for Jayden, it was d frame and durability. For Bo Nix, it was lack of real upside, and that really has shown all year until the last, last 5 quarters, he’s obviously been spectacular and for Caleb it was the what Brew was talking about, which is playing, yeah, playing on. Schedule on doing, making the routine look routine. I do think that it’s really weird because if we’d have said, hey Bears, will you take 4 and 3 through 7 games? It would have been like, I, not over the moon, but absolutely. And certainly when they started 0 and 2, you’d have been like, sign me up for 4 and 3. I still think that’s all there, man. I mean Cincinnati and the Giants in the next two, it’s 6 and 3 is on the board. Caleb gets better incrementally. The sacks are plummeting. Like there have been things that have been, but I just wish we could watch one of these Caleb games other than the Cowboys game and be like, that’s the guy that we’ve seen and that hasn’t happened, let’s talk we’re gonna head to uh Colts. You guys want some pizza? Yeah, I do. Colts moved to 7-1, best record in the AFC. The Colts’ offense scored 270 in the first eight games. That’s 3rd best in Colts history to outpaces any season start by Luck and Peyton. It’s that offense that brings us to our first bite at stock up, stock down. Thank you, sir. Stock up Jonathan Taylor, and it’s obvious those are the rushing yardage totals over the last 5 weeks, and they’re going up and up is good. But Jonathan Taylor is making the case to be the first running back or non-quarterback MVP since Adrian Peterson. Thought it was worth checking in on AP’s pace through 8 games and Jonathan Taylor’s pace. Through 8 games, that’s of course Adrian Peterson in the MVP season. He’s destroying it. 12 touchdowns is nuts. Yards, yards per carry, and yes, 3 times as many touchdowns. I know Daniel Jones and it’s become a quarterback award and people will just say, well, just give him offensive player of the Year. If they’re the one seed and he shatters AP’s numbers, give it to Jonathan. Listen, I don’t, I think that Daniel Jones has almost no shot at the award. For the like he is going to fair or not deal with what Purdy dealt with when Purdy had insane numbers but CMC had that year. Nobody last year, even though Jalen Hurts had finished 2nd in MVP two years prior, nobody last year was talking about him for MVP. Um, I do think, Brew, that if the Colts go 15-2. And they’re the one seed. I think Jonathan Taylor has a real shot at league MVP. Yeah. Yeah, no, no question about it, and, and I think like unless Jones goes on a tear and Taylor comes back to Earth and but they keep winning, that’s the only way I can kinda see Jones winning because I, I’ve been wanting to get as they kept winning one of their players in my bruised ballot. So I had to really figure out which one I thought was more valuable and it’s not only that the run for them sets everything up, but he is breaking tackles, he is spinning and making guys miss like it’s not just oh there’s this huge hole and he, I mean we knew he was a great running back anyway but he is really seemingly taking it to another level. I think he’s on pace for 20. 9 total touchdowns, which would be 2 off La Damian Tomlinson. And if you remember, Adrian Peterson finished that year ridiculous. He had over 150 yards in 4 of the last 6 games. So and hit 2000 and hit 2000 he was gunning for it wasn’t he? Well, no, it was, it was how they got in the playoffs. They had to go on a winning streak late. It was Christian Ponder was the quarterback, and he, his 2000 yard season got him in the playoffs. KW, you are. The Jonathan Taylor guy. Well, yeah, go back. Yeah, you were Jonathan Taylor drafted. Yeah, he is. He’s always been the. I don’t think I’ve heard you, when we were in were in boxes, he said we’ll take. He’s right. He said the Chiefs should have drafted him. He’s right. You get him unstoppable. I know. Can you imagine a little down. Yeah, next up, stock down. You guys are mentioning it. The tush push, it’s gonna be banned next year, but until I see it, yeah, exactly 0tu push attempts will happen next year and you guys are like, oh, it’s of course gonna go away until I see this rugby play voted out of football officially, I’m gonna just still talk about that as a hypothetical, but it’s kind of amazing that it can have issues with officiating before the play like what came out to light in that Chiefs game where no one. How to officiate false starts and jumping and the whole thing and then it happened again in the Rams game. And then I know you showed this, but I still haven’t heard an explanation. I do not understand how we can show the one from yesterday how this isn’t a fumble. Like if you can’t officiate the play before it happens or while it’s happening that that isn’t a turnover, get this rugby play out of football. Get it out of here. Well, look, I have not been a guy that’s been against the tus. I’ve actually liked it and been more on the, you know, level of no one else. It’s not unstoppable for anybody else, so obviously the Eagles just do it better, but as this year, you know, they were using it more. I don’t wanna see it a lot. Nick would talk about, well, what if a team did that all, you know, I don’t wanna see it very often and we’ve started seeing it more this year and then now you just can’t officiate it. Like whether it was the false starts or Jalen yesterday and usually even when he doesn’t necessarily put the ball forward like he did yesterday, there is always kind of a second, like there’s a lot of times where it’s like, oh, they might have stopped him and then there’s this other push from them and they get it and so it’s just too hard to officiate. So can I, can I just give a counterpoint real quick? I don’t think it’s that hard to officiate. I think they do a poor job officiating it. I think that this play right here is not hard at all to officiate. You just don’t blow it dead. I’m that. You don’t think I do think some of the false starts, we’re watching them in extra slow motion and it’s like, oh, but I think. I it is hard to pick some except what’s odd is they have post, yeah, post the I forget which game it was, uh, with the game oh it was the Chiefs Eagles was the one where Brady pointed out their false starting. The next week, refs called a false start. I think it was the Colts. I don’t remember. Rams, no, no, I’m saying it was a non-Eagles team was trying it and they called the false start and the fumble yesterday was obvious from the beginning and I, I agree with your point, Danny, which is they, they consistently. Get the benefit of the extra push or your point brew. And so if that’s fine, but in that case, there has to be a downside to it, and I don’t know that I agree with you, KW that Jalen Hurts all of a sudden is just going to stop reaching the ball forward. Like on this play, he correctly surmised, I’m not going to get the 1st down without reaching the ball forward, and it was 4th down. Um, this is my favorite one. Stock up, stock up. Drake May, he deserves it. Drake May is gonna start a playoff game this year. I don’t know if that is universal agreement or people are like, yeah, of course that’s obvious. Maybe he’s gonna win the Super Bowl. You’re home. I know it’s obvious, but like he. The offensive line still isn’t good. The guy’s running for his life back there. No, I, Miles Garrett’s amazing, but I think consistently Drake May like the, I think if we ranked their offensive line, it would be below average, and if we ranked their skill position group, it would still be average to below average across the league. And the fact that in his 2nd year, Drake May is doing this as consistently as he’s doing it, yes, I am remarkably jealous, given what we just talked about with Caleb Williams, but he’s been remarkable. He deserves where he is in the MVP outs, and he’s gonna start a playoff. Can I say something about the skill position group? It’s a little bit like we’re dealing with like Michael Pittman where it’s like ah he’s not that good like all right well he’s putting up the numbers and like putting up the highlights that make him look good. Stefan has been amazing. But all of a sudden is a great deep threat. He just doesn’t have maybe enough as much cachet as. You know, Hollywood Brown or, or, well, no, I think, I mean Hollywood Brown a little. I’m just trying to sound like someone with like good marketing Hollywood’s good marketing right first round picks is what you mean, guys who have first round pick pedigree. I, I think I, I agree with Danny. I disagree with you. I don’t think Stefon Diggs been amazing. I think Stefon Digg’s been solid. I don’t, I don’t, I don’t like like the numbers that. The the connection between May and Diggs has been great. The overall production, I, I would put a touch, a step short of amazing. But that’s, but that’s why, but that’s why Drake May deserves the credit. I think Drake May has been phenomenal. I think that he has been a pretty clear cut through 8 weeks, top 5 quarterback in the NFL. This year and that’s like that’s all you can hope for and this just speaks to your point, bro. Josh McDaniels does make it. He does some spectacular stuff but some stuff just simple. I’m just shocked he hasn’t had a hiccup game in the last 7. He was bad in week one and since then he’s just been excellent every week. Josh McDaniel’s thing do do do all right, final stock down. The Steelers defense, they’re not getting what they paid for. They spend more money on the defensive side of the ball than any team in the NFL. It’s not particularly close. That is the yards per play allowed, and that is Cincinnati and the Packers, and I know the Packers’ offense is supposed to be great, but it has not been consistent, and they basically allowed Jordan Love to pitch a perfect game there. I can’t imagine what Aaron Rodgers is thinking. I go to Pittsburgh to go with Mike Tomlin. He always has a top 10 defense. I’m holding up my end of the bargain, and the defense is the thing that’s letting down Pittsburgh here. It’s crazy what’s going on there. Yeah, I am They paid a lot of older players and they, you know, some of us, I, I anticipated Jalen Ramsey wouldn’t be that good. Um, I think you saw that coming. I didn’t anticipate that TJ Watt wouldn’t have the impact that he’s had. I didn’t anticipate that the running back or the running backs, their linebackers would have the problems that they have. But Bre, I do think this is a very fair criticism of Tomlin, that the, the, the defensive performance falls. Strictly under his purview and the defense was, I think it’s not fair to say, horrible in week one. They were able to escape with a win against the Jets, horrible last week against Cincinnati and horrible last night against against Green Bay. That’s 3 of their 7 games. No, look, I obviously agree because the defense hasn’t been good, but, and I don’t really want to see this because obviously I’ve got the Ravens in the division. But I’m not just like I felt about the Ravens this last year. That’s their culture is defense. They’re going to get it together. I would expect them to improve, maybe not become top 10, but improve to the point where they’re not losing games the way they have been with that defense. We’ve got the Colts next, so it’ll be a spot for next week. Stock up stock down last night. Jordan Love and the Packers took on Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers Sunday Night Football. Rodgers said it was not a revenge game. He’s just happy to be out there playing his old team, see some old friends, going into the matchup. didn’t exactly believe it. Then he didn’t seem so happy after the game, obviously losing 3525. Coach Mangini and Willie Colon out here. So the guys, the question is bigger story. Packers win or Steelers loss and. I said on Friday whoever won the game, I’d be very impressed with them because I just thought it was a fascinating matchup. Obviously you’re more concerned about the dramatics of it. I, I was and I told you my concern earlier. You were correct, yeah, you were, you were correct. The Steelers defense was a problem, but I will say. That Packers team, man. I’ve said they’re streaky and they’re inconsistent, but they’re good is really good. They went into that half down 16 to 7, and they came out and won that game 35 to 25, and Jordan Love basically played a perfect football game in the second half. And if you look at what Jordan Love did in the second half in that game, he was 16 of 19. 214 yards, 20 straight completions over the course of the end of the second quarter through the end of the game. Nearly a perfect passer rating, and I was like, wow, that’s, that’s good Jordan Love. That’s the streaky good Jordan Love. But then if you zoom out just a smidge to this season. Jordan Love in the second half, these are back to 1992 when Favre took over as the full-time quarterback of the Packers. That’s in line with the MVP seasons of Aaron Rodgers and Brett Favre. Like, listen, there’s bad tape out there of me saying that Caleb Williams is better than Jordan Love. Big yikes on that one. Like Jordan Love is impressive. He was impressive, and if the Packers can get any version of that, they’re gonna be dangerous, and yes, right now they are the one seed in the NFC. So for me, the story is how good the Packers good could be, so I’ll say the Packers coach. Yeah, for me it’s, it’s not the Steelers loss, it’s, it’s how the Steelers are losing and, and, and it’s, it’s problematic. So the last two games now they’ve given up over 30 points in both games, including over 30 points to Joe Flacco who had been in Cincinnati for for 15 minutes, and, and they have the highest paid defense. They have the oldest defense, yet this defense isn’t on brand with what we think. About when we think about the Steelers, if we can pull up their numbers, this, this to me is the issue points per game, 22nd, yards per game, 30th, pass yards per game, dead last opponent pass TDs tied for 20th. I really thought we were gonna be talking about Aaron Rodgers and Arthur Smith and them not being on the same page, and there was gonna be some headlines where Aaron. Said something or implied something or there was a press conference or or whatever it was that’s where the story line was gonna be and that’s what was gonna be holding back the team but but it’s not that it’s the defense which which doesn’t seem that they had a streak of those 5 sack games but this isn’t the Steelers defense that we’re just so used to to seeing and and expecting. Yeah, I, I agree with you. I think the biggest concern for me is obviously the Steelers from this standpoint they’ve lost their fear factor. When you watch who they are and what they’ve been over the last couple of years. This was a team where most teams like, we, we, we pray we can get our quarterback healthy out of the building, uh, when we play the Steelers because I dominate their defenses. But right now you’re talking about offensively, you know, they only score 6 points in the in the 4th quarter, you know. Packers are able to jump out there and throw up 21 points. I think what scares me about this team right now if you’re. Focus is to get to January after watching these last two weeks. I don’t know if they’re making it to January. This is a team who I thought was gonna have a place at the table, and it doesn’t look like that right now. You go from 4 and 1 to 4 and 3 and you don’t have any answers on defense offensively they’re stagnant and they don’t have the explosive players that can carry them throughout the game. So I’m, I’m worried about them on both sides of the ball, honestly, not just defensively, but at least on the offense, I feel like we all understand why I mean I got a 41 year old quarterback in his first year they’re like, why is the Steelers’ defense bad? I don’t, I don’t get it. Well, because their, their brand is being able to get out to the quarterback. They haven’t been able to do that and they mis miscommunication on the back and it’s, it pops off the tape and the defense has been really and they’re just the fundamentals of football they’re not good at. They don’t tackle well. I like Tomlin coached team, yeah, but at the end of the day sometimes it’s not about the coach. It’s about those guys on the field. Coach can only do so much. You have to show up and do your job, and they just haven’t been able to do it at a high level. And the other thing that that typically happens is when you have an older. Team as you get to the middle part of the season and it keeps going, there’s more injuries, there’s more fatigue those teams tend to decline as the season goes on. Now that group can light up again when they get to the playoffs and and the the the amount of games is smaller and those guys that are, are older and really talented can push through that where you see something different from younger teams where you hit this mid-season part and they start growing, they start jelling they you see improvement. And, and that’s, that’s a concern because of uh of the age as well. It just seems to me that if the defense can become what it’s been when they had Fields and Trubisky and Duck Hodges and all the guys that we talked about, like, how did Mike Tomlin have a winning record with that quarterback? If they can just get that level of defense, they are gonna be dangerous. Well, that’s why I’m not, I’m not overly worried about the defense. I do think they have enough talent on that side of the ball to rally. It’s just a matter of you talking about playing the Colts who are 7 and 1 next. I mean, you could get ugly fast for them and then you talk about the Chargers. 5 and 3 backing that up. So you’re talking about this team losing 4 games back to back to back, right? So if there’s a time to hit the panic button for me after this game, it has to be right now because in the next 2 games, you gotta get this defense to figure out what’s going on and why they’re not playing the brand of football that we used to seeing. In the NFC, I will just say too that version of the Packers that we just saw, they can beat a lot of people. Oh yeah, they, they, they, they can beat a lot of people, but guys, tough news that I know it’s very close to home, uh, for both of you. Former Jets center Nick Mangold passed away Saturday night after a long battle with kidney disease, a first round selection of the New York Jets in 2006 out of Ohio State. Mangold was one of the best offensive linemen of his era, a seven-time pro bowler forever enshrined in the Jets ring of honor. So we have his first NFL head coach Eric Mangini and former Jets teammate and friend Willie Colon, gentlemen, so sorry for both of your losses, and I know you both have memories that you wanted to share. So coach, uh, the floor is yours. Yeah, so, so when my in my first year and in our first draft, we, we not only wanted to get really good players, we wanted to get good people and I didn’t want. I know about the player until I knew about the person we wanted guys who are who are smart who were tough, who are hardworking, competitive selfless and football was important to him and Nick checked all those boxes but but when you draft a guy you think you’re gonna get one thing, but you’re not sure till he gets in the building. So then Nick gets in the building and he’s all of those things but but he’s so much more he’s he’s a great teammate he’s great in the community he’s great with with the fans he got drafted in the first round, but you would think he, he was a rookie free agent the way that he, he carried himself and, and, um, I was in Baltimore when we drafted Jonathan Ogden and I remember going out to one of those first practices and saying wow this guy is really different than everybody I’ve looked at. And it was the same thing with Nick when he went out to his first practice it’s like, wow this guy is really different than everybody else I I’ve been looking at and and he was, he was special in terms of his talent as well and and I have 3 boys and, and if my boys can grow up to be the type of man that Nick Mangled was I’ll be very proud and, and Nick is gonna be, he’s gonna be missed by everyone. Yeah, this is tough, man. I, I didn’t just lose a teammate. I lost a brother, um, you know, when I arrived to the Jets in 2013, Nick was the first person that greeted me in the weight room, um, and this is a guy who wore the seat on his chest with a, with a, I mean, a level of pride that it just exuded. I, I think. It’s, it’s, it’s tough for me personally because I talked to him a week ago, you know, and I, and I was able to hear the knick mangled. I wanted to hear he was in good spirits, um, we started off joking like we always do, and I was just asking him like how did we get here, man? Like what happened because it felt like it kind of just ran up on all of us obviously when he, you know, announced that he was looking for a donor and um and he laid it all out there and I think what I think what’s haunting me now is when I got the phone with him. Uh, I was I’m going away this weekend and and when I was coming back I was going to see him. I had put it down on the calendar. I was bringing him a gift. I was bringing the guys and we’re gonna just put our arms around him and hug him and um just be by his side. Uh, I got the news Sunday morning while I was working out and, um, it just blindsided me and Coach hit it right on the head, you know, he’s a, he’s a father of four and as proud as he was as being a jet. And representing the green and white, he loved being a dad, man. He, he loved being a dad he loved his boys he loved his wife he loved his kids and he loved dad life and he made me dad life he was a dad before I was a dad and he made me look forward to being a dad and how he carried himself and how much he talked about his kids and he loved his wife and um it hurts it hurts because. You, when you lose somebody who not only had your back when I was at my weakest points, I was an injury prone guy when I was with the Jets. I was, you know, a lot of times I was rolling out there on one leg, but I was gonna give it all I got, and he would just look at me like I got you, bro, you know I got you. And when you lose somebody like that who impacts your life not only off on the field but off the field, any charity event, anything I had going on, 74 was right next to me and um you know it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s just tough and I think for a lot of people out there who knew Nick and and loves Nick. Um, just reach out to the family, be there for the family because they, they don’t want that are really going through it and, um, you know, it’s just tough, so very sorry for both of your losses and we’ll continue, like you said, to keep Nick’s wife and 4 kids and the countless teammates and friends and our thoughts as they mourn this devastating loss. Nick Mangold was 41 years old.

The Baltimore Ravens beat the Chicago Bears 30-16 and Caleb Williams had a poor game. Nick Wright, Chris Broussard, Kevin Wildes, and Danny Parkins discuss the loss and what it means for the Bears’ season. Plus Danny Parkins discusses who’s stock is up or down, including Jonathan Taylor, the tush push, and Drake Maye.

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23 comments
  1. Let’s talk about how the Ravens cheated by lying about Lamar Jackson playing and that the defense the day before the game had to abort half their playbook. NFL is getting worse and worse

  2. As a Bears fan who watches every game, they nailed it. I've been saying since last year and every week that everything seems so hard and disjointed for Caleb Williams. Nothing is easy with this guy. He continues to miss the layups and it's clear he just cannot see the field or process what the coaches want in that offense. His inaccuracy and red zone play are absolutely terrible. And that's against lower ranked defenses.

  3. Caleb Williams today would be #5 at best…Not liking the fact he misses wide open players and makes things more difficult than they have to be because he can't anticipate routes. He waits till he sees it before anticipating

  4. I believe a lot of yall are slow to start believing Caleb is near bust material it’s easy to get to that delusional when bears go 5-12 last season just to get the second hardest schedule this year and all those other QBs don’t even have a hard schedule at all or they haven’t even played good defenses…. Yall people agree with anything because yall just don’t like that Caleb has talent and talent around him let’s see how all this pans out by the end of the season and then give takes

  5. For all of the athletes that leave us too soon:

    To An Athlete Dying Young

    A. E. Housman
    1859 –
    1936

    The time you won your town the race
    We chaired you through the market-place;
    Man and boy stood cheering by,
    And home we brought you shoulder-high.

    To-day, the road all runners come,
    Shoulder-high we bring you home,
    And set you at your threshold down,
    Townsman of a stiller town.

    Smart lad, to slip betimes away
    From fields where glory does not stay,
    And early though the laurel grows
    It withers quicker than the rose.

    Eyes the shady night has shut
    Cannot see the record cut,
    And silence sounds no worse than cheers
    After earth has stopped the ears:

    Now you will not swell the rout
    Of lads that wore their honours out,
    Runners whom renown outran
    And the name died before the man.

    So set, before its echoes fade,
    The fleet foot on the sill of shade,
    And hold to the low lintel up
    The still-defended challenge-cup.

    And round that early-laurelled head
    Will flock to gaze the strengthless dead,
    And find unwithered on its curls
    The garland briefer than a girl's.

  6. Caleb turns out to not be Ben’s guy, he doesn’t fit the Bears. Might as well trade him do both sides can benefit, Caleb can go to another team and become what we assume (at least 80% of it) and Ben can get the qb he wants.

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