Where is this from? Because they have Spencer Rattler pretty high
It makes me feel bad.
But can we adjust the sample size to just the past two weeks? Want to get the post-Callahan warm and fuzzies
“Rookie QB with worst supporting cast in NFL struggles early with subjective metric”
yawn yawn yawn
He’s a rookie. He’s gotta get better and I have faith that he will. Cam improved every year of his college career and I think he has the work ethic to do it at the next level, but yeah… he’s gotta improve.
This seems bizarre to me. I’ve been watching the games, and while the team doesn’t seem to be good at football, I’ve been pretty pleased with Cam’s throws. Is whoever is calling balls catchable saying he’s throwing it too hard, because he hasn’t been especially inaccurate.
Trevor Lawrence at 14. He’s the king of throwing a ball deemed just catchable enough to count as a drop + catchable pass while also making it unnecessarily hard for the receiver to reel in.
Saw this on twitter (disclaimer: I am not a X’s and O’s guru, just a normal guy who watches football) and I wonder if he is throwing it to “windows” that should be open based on the coverage and receivers just aren’t getting there.
Also might consider that the number may be further brought down by:
1. the horrendous screen designs not propping up his numbers
2. Ward both struggling/not having enough time when the 1st read hasn’t been there (~60% league average when pressured vs. ~79% from a clean pocket according to AI [I’m not paying for advanced football metrics])
3. On plays like the Ayomanor miss, it is impossible for us to know who was really at fault (the reason I don’t pay for advanced football metrics), but the young receiving core makes me think “learning on the job” is contributing, too
This is a stupid statistic, you’d throw shit passes too if you’ve been sacked 30 times and felt you couldn’t trust your line.
And he’s got the fifth highest time to throw in the nfl lol. Fingers need to be pointed at cam sooner or later
Pretty amazing what a jump Drake Maye had from last year to this year. New head coach too, maybe we’ll get lucky and find a good head coach like that to work with our year 2 QB.
As a Miami fan… Cam was amazing. But with his inconsistent mechanics he makes some incredible throws. He also throws inaccurate passes more than you’d expect. To me that was the key to him taking the next step in the NFL, was getting more consistent
His stans won’t care, they are blinded by 1st overall
I feel like these posts are beyond stupid. Like, no shit, the team is bad. Full rebuild teams are bad. Let’s keep posting random statistics that fit a specific narrative to shit on the team more.
I mean when you’re constantly behind in game, and you have to throw it deep for a chance to win. I’m not saying that’s the whole reason, but I’d say it’s a big one.
None of this actually matters. Where he is on these lists come this time next year is when you start to actually raise an eyebrow
Whose charting is this based on? This does not match what my eyes have seen. Is this including throwaways? Balls that are tipped at the line? Gotta be.
Outside of a handful of deep overthrows early in the season (the missed deep ball this past Sunday was because Elic slowed his route before he realized the ball was coming his way) I’m struggling to think of many uncatchable balls he’s thrown. The vast majority of his incompletions (aside from throwaways) are contested catch situations or tight window throws that our pass catchers get hands on but don’t come down with.
I wonder if this stat is simply taking completion percentage and adjusting it upward for drops? That might be it. Because cam has a LOT of incompletions that might not be categorized as drops but still were catchable.
How is Cam lower than Penix with higher percentages? Is it because Cam played more games?
I would also like to see just the last two weeks. I just listened to Greg Cossell about Cams improvement on film. He seems to think he’s making big time strides and making a lot of great throws. Is it perfect? No but he’s getting better week over week. Especially since McCoy took over.
Ok but who abbreviates Houston as HST?
Gabriel even make a throw past 20 yards in the air?
These stats don’t pass the eye test.
I mean we all knew this pre draft that he was not the most accurate QB. Add a bad oline/wr group and NFL defenses it’s only going to make it worse.
In hindsight, I’m surprised Callahan didn’t want to draft Sanders since all he did was throw fkn wr screens
This tracks with what you see on the field. He makes some good throws, but also badly misses a lotnof really easy throws. I hope to chalk it up to rookie incomsistencies, but it is definitely something that could hold him back in the long run.
no bueno
In Cam Ward’s defense, all balls are non-catchable when you are throwing to a bunch of dudes with bricks for hands
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Where is this from? Because they have Spencer Rattler pretty high
It makes me feel bad.
But can we adjust the sample size to just the past two weeks? Want to get the post-Callahan warm and fuzzies
“Rookie QB with worst supporting cast in NFL struggles early with subjective metric”
yawn yawn yawn
He’s a rookie. He’s gotta get better and I have faith that he will. Cam improved every year of his college career and I think he has the work ethic to do it at the next level, but yeah… he’s gotta improve.
This seems bizarre to me. I’ve been watching the games, and while the team doesn’t seem to be good at football, I’ve been pretty pleased with Cam’s throws. Is whoever is calling balls catchable saying he’s throwing it too hard, because he hasn’t been especially inaccurate.
Trevor Lawrence at 14. He’s the king of throwing a ball deemed just catchable enough to count as a drop + catchable pass while also making it unnecessarily hard for the receiver to reel in.
Saw this on twitter (disclaimer: I am not a X’s and O’s guru, just a normal guy who watches football) and I wonder if he is throwing it to “windows” that should be open based on the coverage and receivers just aren’t getting there.
Also might consider that the number may be further brought down by:
1. the horrendous screen designs not propping up his numbers
2. Ward both struggling/not having enough time when the 1st read hasn’t been there (~60% league average when pressured vs. ~79% from a clean pocket according to AI [I’m not paying for advanced football metrics])
3. On plays like the Ayomanor miss, it is impossible for us to know who was really at fault (the reason I don’t pay for advanced football metrics), but the young receiving core makes me think “learning on the job” is contributing, too
This is a stupid statistic, you’d throw shit passes too if you’ve been sacked 30 times and felt you couldn’t trust your line.
And he’s got the fifth highest time to throw in the nfl lol. Fingers need to be pointed at cam sooner or later
Pretty amazing what a jump Drake Maye had from last year to this year. New head coach too, maybe we’ll get lucky and find a good head coach like that to work with our year 2 QB.
As a Miami fan… Cam was amazing. But with his inconsistent mechanics he makes some incredible throws. He also throws inaccurate passes more than you’d expect. To me that was the key to him taking the next step in the NFL, was getting more consistent
His stans won’t care, they are blinded by 1st overall
I feel like these posts are beyond stupid. Like, no shit, the team is bad. Full rebuild teams are bad. Let’s keep posting random statistics that fit a specific narrative to shit on the team more.
I mean when you’re constantly behind in game, and you have to throw it deep for a chance to win. I’m not saying that’s the whole reason, but I’d say it’s a big one.
None of this actually matters. Where he is on these lists come this time next year is when you start to actually raise an eyebrow
Whose charting is this based on? This does not match what my eyes have seen. Is this including throwaways? Balls that are tipped at the line? Gotta be.
Outside of a handful of deep overthrows early in the season (the missed deep ball this past Sunday was because Elic slowed his route before he realized the ball was coming his way) I’m struggling to think of many uncatchable balls he’s thrown. The vast majority of his incompletions (aside from throwaways) are contested catch situations or tight window throws that our pass catchers get hands on but don’t come down with.
I wonder if this stat is simply taking completion percentage and adjusting it upward for drops? That might be it. Because cam has a LOT of incompletions that might not be categorized as drops but still were catchable.
How is Cam lower than Penix with higher percentages? Is it because Cam played more games?
I would also like to see just the last two weeks. I just listened to Greg Cossell about Cams improvement on film. He seems to think he’s making big time strides and making a lot of great throws. Is it perfect? No but he’s getting better week over week. Especially since McCoy took over.
Ok but who abbreviates Houston as HST?
Gabriel even make a throw past 20 yards in the air?
These stats don’t pass the eye test.
I mean we all knew this pre draft that he was not the most accurate QB. Add a bad oline/wr group and NFL defenses it’s only going to make it worse.
In hindsight, I’m surprised Callahan didn’t want to draft Sanders since all he did was throw fkn wr screens
This tracks with what you see on the field. He makes some good throws, but also badly misses a lotnof really easy throws. I hope to chalk it up to rookie incomsistencies, but it is definitely something that could hold him back in the long run.
no bueno
In Cam Ward’s defense, all balls are non-catchable when you are throwing to a bunch of dudes with bricks for hands