New York #Jets Trade Deadline RUMORS (FULL BADLANDS)

I’m your host Will Parkinson at Wallet on Twitter, Instagram, and Tik Tok. Happy Saturday afternoon. Jets by week. Jets uh notoriously dog [ __ ] against the buy. So hopefully they come out uh you know with a W uh against the buy this weekend. Um you’re going to touch on a couple different things here. Trade deadline about uh 72ish hours away. Obviously, a lot of what goes on over the next 24 hours is probably going to determine a lot of, you know, what goes on, you know, before Tuesday’s 4M deadline. So I’ll touch on that. just kind of a couple more thoughts on on Jets Bengals and and kind of where they go from here and kind of some mid-season grades. Uh I I think it’s it’s time I mean technically, you know, 17 game season this week or next week could be a halfway point, whatever you want to call it. Let’s call it this way just because this the by-week for the Jets obviously and then nine weeks following. So, um let’s start with kind of the trade deadline stuff and and you know what to watch for and what’s kind of gone on so far. So, um, Jets obviously trade Michael Carter, uh, and a 2027 seventh round pick for, um, you know, John Mechy the third and a 2027 sixth round pick. The sixth round pick, they, you know, they get back a sixth instead of a seventh that they obviously moved, I believe, in the Harrison Phillips deal. So, uh, if you, if you’re excited about sixth and seventh round picks, they just have a a better pick, uh, you know, on day three in 2027. Um, they, you know, get a dart throw at John Nchi, right? Um I I think this is a guy who, you know, again, unfortunately, you know, kind of with the, you know, kind of sickness and the, you know, um, you know, everything kind of went on, you know, his rookie year and and before that end of college and into his rookie year, obviously something that, you know, he had no control over and, you know, it’s unbelievable. Obviously, he’s continued to, you know, play and he’s trying to make obviously a career at, you know, strong career here in the NFL and, um, look, he’s going to be a restricted free agent after the year. still, you know, look, he was a top his entire rookie year and he was a top, you know, 44 pick and, you know, he progressively played more in Houston. Um, they still moved him last year and before this year, you know, only two year, you know, two or three years into a rookie deal for a top 45 pick. Um, my expectations for him are not super high. That said, I I think there’s an opportunity where he, you know, especially in the slot, should be able to play, hey, he should play a decent amount, maybe get some targets, maybe kind of regain some of that form we’ve seen at times uh in the NFL. I think the goal here with with a guy like me, can he be a roster roll player next year? Can he be Tyler Johnson um a Tyler Johnson level player where, you know, next year the Jets receiving corps is Garrett, a rookie, a vet, and then Aren Smith, Mechy, and and Tyler Johnson for example, right? Can that be their receiver room next year? And you know, hey, can it be Alec Pierce and I don’t know, pick your pick your poison from uh from this draft class? I don’t want, you know, we don’t know where the Jets are going to be picking and all these different things, but and what their draft capital is going to look like, but I don’t know. I’m just I’ve used the Mai Lemon, Alec Pierce, Garrett Wilson. Wow. Like this is a great situation for a rookie quarterback. And then you have your deep threatener Smith. You have your kind of primarily Slock Eye and Mechi who can play inside outside a little bit and some Tyler Johnson who’s kind of just a really solid NFL pro. Like, oh, you’d be excited about that wide receiver room. There’s some depth there. There’s some proven pieces. So, again, Meti is kind of throwing in this trade. It’s not I again, I wouldn’t sit there and expect him to be this awesome football player and regain full form of what he was supposed to be coming into the NFL pre pre-leukemia and stuff, but at the same time, um you know, this is a there’s an cleared, you know, gap behind Garrett Wilson, right? who I think everyone expects back for that Cleveland game. But until then, you know, hey, like, can Miy pick up the playbook the next 10 days and and contribute and show something that he’s a a guy that could be a, you know, a decent NFL player and a, you know, for the Jets next year and a cheap deal. Like, that’s the goal. Be a guy that we everyone in the organization feels good about bringing back in 2026. Again, we’ll be a restricted free agent, not a unrestricted free agent, which is good news for the Jets. So, that’s on the what they acquired front. Uh in terms of in terms of Carter, obviously it’s something that been in the works for the last three weeks. Um you know, basically had to get healthy once he was back from the concussion. Uh was going to be moved. This was kind of as soon as the uh as soon as the Jets traded for Brownley and um you know, it kind of the writing was a bit on the wall there of an organization and and team wanted to you know, regimes want to bring in their own guys, right? And uh Brownley was with Chris Harris last year, the Jets DB coach. He was with him in Tennessee. you know, uh he’s a very physical player and and different things like that. And obviously Carter’s kind of struggled a little bit with the injury bug, you know, over the last 12 months, unfortunately. Um it makes you makes you sad kind of look back and and think like, man, if he just kind of got healthy last year instead of trying to be, you know, he was trying to be a leader there and be tough through a really shitty season led by a bunch of guys that, you know, unfortunately he kind of had to die on a sword with. And um you know, the back was, you know, he played through a back injury you shouldn’t be playing through. Uh, I’ll leave it at that. And, you know, he tried to gut it out for the rest of the team. And, and you wonder, did that kind of hamper his uh, you know, time here, obviously, rightfully was the highest paid nickel in the league when the Jets extended him last summer. Uh, was was the best nickel in the league, if not one of the three or four best in in 22 and 23. He was, you know, particularly awesome both of those years. Um, you know, I think everyone thinks back to the the pick six that gets called back against New England that kind of, you know, where’s their season? Where’s Michael Carter now? Where’s JFM? all these guys. If uh if that play still stands, you you think back to the interception he had against Kansas City in 2023. Where do the Jets go that year, right? The did they squeak out that win against Kansas City? Do does is there a chance Rogers does come back and things look totally different and and the whole nine yards. So, unfortunately, two of the two of his best career plays, you know, intercepting M. Jones on that pick six and uh the the interception against Mahomes, it gets called back on the horseshit uh you know, late call on Sauce Carter against the Chiefs. You know, you just always think back like though, Dan, those two plays obviously great friend of the pod, you know, was was gracious enough. I told the story and um right after my mom and my grandpa passed away in the course of like 48 hours. was pretty dark, pretty dark times obviously and he actually came on the day Rogers Rogers announced I think it was March 15th announced uh you know the McAfee show he’s going to play for the Jets and he opted on with me for 30 40 minutes and and just talked ball and uh was a great distraction of of what was kind of going on in real life for me and um you know obviously kind of forever and kind of debt there and um you know awesome dude and was a really good jet and you know the only player that drew Joe Douglas drafted himself and actually extended himself on a multi-year deal, his five, you know, five year achievement. It’s insane to think about. Um, but yeah, it’s unfortunate kind of the way it ended and things like that, but the Jets kind of um, you know, Jets were always going to be sending him to Philly. I can tell you that that that that was kind of, hey, like we’re going to do right by you, send you a contender, a place you’re going to thrive. He’s a perfect fit for Fangio. Um, we’ll play corner end safety there. Um and uh yeah, man, it’s uh it’s unfortunate kind of ended the way it did, but um you know, always be kind of looked back on as a good Jed and and kind of obviously hopefully has success in Philly. But yeah, look, it’s a worth worthy dart throw for Mete and um you know, it’s nice to get they’ve they need receivers. The receiver room stinks. So, um hey, if you if you can find another guy that similar to Brownley and Phillips and and Briggs and you know, these different guys that you know, Muji’s had success with so far and Glenn has had success with as kind of those uh using those late day three picks uh for proven talent or guys they have got pro tape on you know obviously more power to and hopefully it works in terms of the rest of the trade deadline stuff I I said it for a while I expect two or three guys out one guy potentially in they’ve got now one guy out one guy in so let’s see you know let’s see I I don’t know if I was I would count that necessarily but potentially that that’s there right of you know the Muji Glenn kind of experimental as I mentioned Brownley Briggs Phillips type of guy I think Quincy’s probably moved Um, maybe not, but I I would say that’s the probably the most likely. I would definitely look at San Francisco and Atlanta uh as two spots there. I know they would probably love to have, you know, a guy like Quincy with Warner down. The Falcons have had struggles as a linebacker. He obviously thrived in that system and both those teams feel like they could go compete and have had injury struggles. Um, I don’t know, do they get a fifth round pick back, a additional five that could become a four if they make the playoffs or or things like that. In terms of Bree Hall, you know, Conor and Joe had a really good discussion. Meeks and Paul did one, Dan did like we’ve I don’t want to kind of repeat all their points. I I’ve said it for 18 months. I just would have just guaranteed the two years um you know upcoming and it’s like hey you can keep Bruce through the age 27 season. He’s on a relatively team friendly deal. You’re going to have a quarterback on a rookie deal. He’s a good player. Again, he’s not at the level of a Bejian McAffrey. probably never going to be at that level. Um, once the knee injury happened and kind of the writing unfortunately might have been on the wall for that. Um, and you know, I think myself and many others kind of got the idea of what 2022 Bruce Hall was, probably will never be the same guy, but he can still be a very good quality top half of the league running back. And if he can be that, a good pass catcher with the depth of a Davis and potentially Brillin Allen, you look at that room and say, “Hey, for a rookie quarterback, that’s a nice room.” Um, why break that up? I think if the Jets get offered a two, you absolutely take the deal. You think if you get offered a three, which it seems their asking price is at least a three by by Diana Rini. We’ve kind of all mentioned that like anything less than that, it’s probably not worth it from a comp pick perspective and just you’re going to have to replace him, right? So like you need to have a decent enough pick that you can go find a guy. Um whether you go you don’t really want to go out and have to go pay somebody. It’s the same thing with the Fields conversation. Like you want Fields to be successful enough he can be your backup next year because you really don’t want to have to go pay 22 million of dead money for him, 37 for 35 for Rogers, and then on top of that go pay $8 million to Marcus Mariota. Like you’d rather just have Fields and not have to eat all that money. So from a Breeze perspective, it it feels like does someone like Kansas City, the Chargers, uh you maybe someone out west or maybe someone in the NFC sit there and go, “Ooh, I don’t know.” like whoever it may be, do they get do they get a big win this weekend and say, “Wow, let’s we’re going to go for it.” And like do they go, “Hey, we’ll get the Jets to three that can become a two if we make the the Super.” I don’t know. Just making making it up. But then it’s probably you do pull the trigger. If not, and you do hold on to Bree, you have to find a way to at least agree on a and and not have the drama of the offseason and then have the conversation over the next nine weeks with Bree’s representation and say like, “Let’s get something done or let’s get the parameters of something done now and and kind of work our way to make sure Bree is here and he feels secure.” I feel the same way about Germaine Johnson. The Eagles have called on Germaine. Many teams have called on Germaine, but the Eagles are one team that stood out particularly, right? They just acquired Michael Carter who Joe Douglas drafted. Obviously also drafted Germaine Johnson. Traded up for him. He’s in the Philly front office. Eagles need edge depth badly. Um again, Germaine’s on a reasonable deal next year. Same with Carter, right? You can re way Carter wave the injury guarantee so they can restructure that. He’ll cost the Eagles if he stays there five million bucks next year. Um and you know, Germaine would cost you know them. He’s on a reasonable deal. 14 15 million bucks for a good edge rusher is a is a is a good deal. I’ve said it for a while. I think a two and a four is what the Jets would like. Now, do the Jets get that? I don’t know. We’ll see. We’ll we’ll see if the teams are willing to part with that. But again, how desperate are they going to get versus a Jaylen Phillips and different guys like that? There’s the Miles Garretts on the market that are going to cost you two or three ones. Then you’ve got guys like Phillips and Johnson who are good players, not that same level, reasonable money. Do you part with the two, the two and the four? Do you part with the three and a five? They become a two and a five. That’s the different things to watch. Again, I don’t I’m not rushing to trade Germaine or Bree. I’ve said this for a while and I’ll reiterate this again about Q in a second. If someone’s going to blow you out of the water and say like we’re going for it, we’re desperate. Yeah, you probably do move him. That’s the logical smart move. But I’m not go I’m not going out and begging teams to take Germaine Johnson and Bruce Hall off my books again with Carter and Quincy guys that were likely going to be free agents or are free agents at the end of the year. It makes sense, right? Not their this regime scheme fit the whole thing. Um, and then same goes with Q. We we’ve seen the multi multitude of different reports. The Jets looking for a one and a three. The Jets are only going to get a two, you know, different things like that. You know, hey, Quinn was offered, you know, Quinn and and multiple ones, you know, sorry, Parsons for Quinn and multiple ones and the whole Parsons and multiple whatever. You get my point. The whole point is like with Quinnon, Germaine, and Bree, it feels like it’s going to be expensive to replace them, hard to replace them, and on top of that, you better get blown out of the water. And again, they’re the guys in the locker room that you you don’t really want to specifically Germaine and Q, like you don’t want to just like move off of for no reason. I think it ends up being Quincy and maybe one other guy. Um, it seems like the Jets would probably like to prioritize keeping McDonald over Germaine if it comes down to one or the two. Um, we’ll see if that’s actually the case. Again, I think it’s a it’s a conversation where Will’s probably a harder skill set to replicate. Uh, but he’s not a three- round player every every down every drive for them. So, uh, he’s and you know, it’s just a different thing. He’s got another year of control, so he should cost more. Do you get a two for what? Like, there’s a million conversations we’ve had him over and over again. I just think, you know, seeing what happens with Chiefs, Chargers, Falcons, Niners, Cowboys, teams like that that have fits for some of these guys and have either shown interest or are willing to potentially show interest in these guys in the Eagles as well. Um, it just be something to watch. Again, I’m not moving Germaine for a fourth round pick. I’m not moving Germaine for a four and a five. Like, that just doesn’t make any sense. I’ve said it for a while, a two and a four. again, you could probably convince me a three and a five because he recouped the the Reic pick and and the Adams one and um hey an extra fifth round pick and Muji’s been able to maybe you trade for a veteran receiver with some of those picks later on like maybe that makes sense right Q I just have unless you’re getting like a two or three in a future two maybe I’m considering it but I just think you need a a firstrounder if you’re going to trip move off your franchise player who’s going to be a Ring of Honor guy for you I just don’t think it’s worth it for a second round pick especially if he’s going to a contender that’s probably damn near pick 62 63. I just don’t see it being worth it. Um and then again with Breeze again a fourth just doesn’t feel like it’s it’s worth it. Um maybe a three and a six is worth it because again Muji’s been good with the six round picks. So you know it just keeps stashing those up and you draft a running back or you pace one. We’ll see. Um but again I don’t expect the Jets to be super active this week. I think it’ll be um yeah, I think one or two guys, one or two more guys out probably Quincy and someone else uh potentially and then maybe they they do another Tom, you know, another uh you know, Darth Row, but maybe Meti is that guy for them. Offseason grade or mid-season grades, I apologize. Coaching staff, I I give probably a C. Um I probably could go D if I’m being honest, but I give him a C as a whole. Um I think the defensive staff has gotten better. Um, but overall they’ve given up far too many points. There’s been too far too many coverage busts. There’s been far too many missed tackles still. Uh, overall I think Wils is probably in the D or D minus range. Um, unfortunately and I just, you know, I think there’s there’s potential there and and some guys have developed like a Stevens, like a Briggs, uh, guys like that, but you’ve had too many guys regress or not play well, right? Carter didn’t play as well as he had in the past. Jame Sherwood’s been horrendous. Quincy hasn’t been as good this year. Um, you know, I the safety play hasn’t been good enough down over down. Germaine coming back from the injury, he’s had some moments, but and him and Will have not been as again partly based on the score, but they haven’t been as good, especially as a pass. The blitzes have been terrible. So, um, yeah, I’d probably give the defensive staff a D. Uh, but overall, it gives the coaching staff a C. Offensive staff’s probably more like a C plus B minus. And again, people are going to say, “Oh, Justin Fields had a negative tenure passing game.” I understand, but I’ve felt there was promise and they’ve had a couple of offensive explosions. They’ve been a really good running offense. The scheme looks pretty good. The opening scripts have been mostly good. You can’t fix stupid and and guys are running wide open. Your quarterback’s not pulling the trigger and you don’t have a lot of talent. It it’s puts you in a tough spot. Um, but the offensive staff, in my opinion, has been better than the defensive staff, which again is probably promising long term and is probably something that you would rather see because I think defense a little bit more fixable from a defensive coordinator, instant impact, you know, kind of situation next year. Special teams is probably a B+. Um, if you they’ve had two big big fumbles that have cost them potentially games, so that’s why they’re not an A, but other than that, like the punt coverage has been really good. They found themselves a punter. The kick coverage has been really good. Nick Folks been was a great all, you know, great insummer signing. He’s been perfect. Uh they’ve had some big returns. They’ve, you know, they’ve gotten creative. Like it’s, yeah, again, the staff probably gets a C and maybe I’m being too generous because they are one and seven, but on the whole of it, like they’ve been improving. I I’d hope they get to a B at the end of the year. And we were talking about, hey, the Jets went five and 12 and like they’re the same win total as last year, but much less talent. And like the staff really figured it out. like that’s where you want to get to from an offensive perspective. Like I think the quarterback positions been probably a D. Um they’ve had the two offensive awesome games and other than that they’ve been pretty awful at quarterbacks. So um it’s hard there running back receiver I don’t know running backs what a B minus. Um it hasn’t been as special as we were kind of hoping like an A level room. Uh, but again, they’ve had they’re they’re top five in the NFL in rushing and they’ve had some explosives. They’ve carried them during games. Like, it’s hard to beat them up too much. The receiver room is really just Gary. Tyler Johnson’s been a nice surprise. The offensive line to me has been the one that uh it’s in some ways it’s been better than advertised, in other ways it hasn’t. Um, I think that the pass blocking, it’s just hard to judge until we see a full sample size because for unfortunately like when the quarterback holds the ball for three and a half seconds at a minimum and there’s not a lot of offensive talent there, especially at receiver, teams just blitz the hell out of you. Your quarterback’s running around holding it forever and it makes you look bad and you’re facing seven, eight man boxes and it’s tough. That said, the run game they’ve been special and and I think Membu particularly Membu and Titman their EPA when they they run the ball off of, you know, Tman’s right ass cheek in between Lemu’s left ass cheek if they put a nice picture in your head. The Jets at EPA play is unbelievable. We saw it last week. Multiple touchdowns running that way, multiple explosives. So, they found their right guard, right tackle duo for the next five to seven years. I’m not going to say 10 years because it’s the NFL. Um, Mick Myers has been suitable at center. I would have no problem bringing him back and drafting someone maybe that can take his job either halfway through next year, the year after. Um I think some combination again of Simpson or AVT and a rookie that could play center guard. You know, you’re Kate Ratlage of this year I think is the right move. And then Olu I think has gotten better progressively throughout the year. I think he had a couple down weeks. He’s still 15 starts into his NFL career uh at this point and and you’d like to see him continue to improve in the pass game, but he’s actually been pretty I think good in a run game and he’s got some room to grow uh for sure, but I still think he’s a good NFL left tackle and is only getting better. Um defensively, like the defensive line as a whole good against the run, right? Like Germaine Briggs, Phillips, Q, they’ve been good against the run uh mostly, but they just don’t they don’t get enough pressure on the quarterback uh you know, down over down right now. And and it’s just it’s tough. We’ve said it so many times, man. But throughout the beginning of the first eight weeks of the season, there’s been so many times where you look back and go, man, like they used to on third down and long run out Huff Germaine Q. Like it just rankings, John Franklin Meyers like a dtackle, you know, it’s just it’s tough when you look back at that. McDonald was like the McDonald and Bryson and Germaine all on the field at the same time. It was these overloads and Lawson like now you look at it there’s third downs where it’s like Clemens Briggs, you know, Germaine before he kind of got fully healthy. It it just it’s unfortunate to look at again. It’s not been a bad group, but it’s a group that’s going to need additions probably in the offseason. Linebacking group’s probably been the worst group on the defense. Um Quincy’s been hurt most of the year. Kiko’s had some nice moments, but he’s also had some moments that probably shouldn’t be playing right now, right? Like I think that’s the case. and Sherwood’s been the biggest disappointment on the team. Um I I I feel bad beating him up this much, but man, it’s it looks terrible. Um he’s got to be better. He’s playing really slow. He’s not tackling well. He’s not covering well. I don’t know if it’s a the pressure of the contract, right? Or is it pressure of taking over for CJ Mosley, which you know is what it is. Like pressure playing with a rookie next to him, not a Quincy all year where Quincy kind of knows what he’s doing a little bit, right? Like there’s a lot of different things there. I don’t know if it’s the staff, who knows, but the next eight games have nine games have got to look far far better uh than the first eight have looked for a guy who’s making $15 million a year. Um I thought he was probably a guy that at three for 30 that you were like pricey, but I get it. Um keeping a young player you developed in house, good solid NFL starter. Hey, three for 30 makes sense. And then the contract comes out, it’s three for 45. Uh Drew Drew Rosenhouse special. And you know, I know other teams, you know, Atlanta, New England were willing to probably go a little bit even higher, maybe towards that $17 million year range. That doesn’t really excuse paying him what they did. So, he’s got to be better. The quarterback room’s been really good. Brownley’s been a really nice addition. I thought Carter actually was better than people give him credit for, but regardless, when he was here, I think St has still been really good. He’s had a few moments where you’re like, damn, uh, the Waller touchdown and the picking touchdown. Yeah, the ball’s in the air. he didn’t make enough of a play. But overall, like he’s been really good. And you know, for the people that said he was faking a concussion, shut the [ __ ] up. Uh that was it’s insane that people even were getting that coming out of their mouth. I’m thinking that’s a reasonable thing to say. Uh firstly, and secondly, go watch the tape back. He got cheap shoted, but the ball was on the ground. He went to pick up a a fumble when the whistle had blown about 5 seconds earlier and got, you know, cheap shoted pretty good. Not not a flag, of course. Um, and he was pulled out of the game by a spotter. So, enough. Uh, Stevens has been really good, especially the last, no, I shouldn’t say really good, he’s been good on the whole. He’s been really good since week four. First three weeks were an abomination. Uh, and he was the player he was last year in Baltimore. And then the last, you know, I guess five weeks now, he’s been a really good player. Like doesn’t give up big plays. You know, has started to get his head around a little bit more and break some passes up. Uh, and then he tackles really well. So, and the safety positions, Cisco’s probably out for the year. Fortunately, we’re probably going to see more Tony Adams. Um, you know, but Malachi Moore has been up and down, but I’m I’m glad to see him playing. And then special teams, as I mentioned, the returners, I’d give a B because you’re getting penalized for the fact that you fumbled multiple times. Uh, you know, as a whole, and Kenny can’t stay healthy, but the kicking and plenty have been A+. So, overall, again, kind of running it down here. Jets are one and seven. Um, again, they’re going to probably trade a few people before the deadline. I would not move off Germaine, Q, and Breece unless I was paid exactly what I think their value is. Again, the Jets want a Hall for Q if they’re going to trade him, which probably includes a first. Don’t blame him. Germaine, at least a two, probably a two and a four is what you’re really wanting. Again, three and a five, maybe you consider it, but again, I’m not rushing to move off of him. Greece, at least a three is what the Jets are looking for. Um, again, I’m not looking to run and move off him if I don’t have to. I’d much prefer to have him on the team the next two years or at least next year and kind of have a rookie quarterback set up for success with Garrett, a big-time free agent receiver, you know, or at least a good number two receiver, a rookie, and then your Miy Tyler Johnson, Arian Smith of the world. Um, tight end, I just what I forgot to mention, I think Mason Taylor’s improved the entire year. Rucker’s earned himself, I don’t know, Rucker back on a one-year one and a half million, $2 million deal next year. some cohesion with him and Mason Taylor is probably the correct move. Um and Mason’s done obviously a really nice job. So overall 1 and seven I mentioned it last you know on Tuesday Wednesday or Monday last week going forward biggest things got to come out of the buy healthy strong get sauce and Q back and sauce and and Garrett back get some guys that have been banged up your Germaine Johnson’s of the world beat Bruce Hall guys that have been banged up all year get those guys healthy fields even as well come out and and beat the Browns and then we’ll go into you go into New England and you figure it out from there. Got to probably try to steal at least one, if not two division games. I’d like to see them try to steal one of the New England games. Um, just because I think Miami is kind of a crapshoot. Obviously, you got to win that, but then the Buffalo game, who knows if it’ll matter at week 18. Uh, and that’s not one of those games that like unless it’s Buffalo playing their full starters, it it doesn’t mean as much. Um, again, develop the young guys, the offensive staff continue to develop, um, and continue to get better fourth downs, conversions, all those different things. You know, when to go for it, when not to. But be back on the feed next week, obviously previewing the Browns game. We’re going to start talking some quarterbacks, uh, you know, in the draft. Just kind of want to see and react to the trade deadline, things like that. appreciate for listening and we’ll talk to you guys

On this episode of the TOJ Podcast, Will reacts to the MC2 trade, previews Tuesday’s deadline and hands out midseason awards for the Jets

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