MELTDOWN: Pistons CRUSHED by Cavaliers in EMBARRASSING Home Loss | Start Ron Holland?

The Detroit Pistons have put out one of the most pathetic performances I’ve seen them have in quite some time, and they’re going to need to turn it around, including their best player, if they want to get this season on track. You are Locked On Pistons, your daily Detroit Pistons podcast, part of the Locked On Network, your team every day. What’s the deal? Welcome back to another episode of the Lockdown Pistons podcast. Per usual, I am your host Kraill. I’ve been covering the Detroit Pistons for the last four years with the Lockdown Network brand credential media member over the last three years. I want to thank all of you guys who make Locked on Pistons your first listen of every single day. We are free available on all your podcast platforms. I appreciate all the support. Check out the substack down below where you can get 50% off deal for until November 6th um on a monthly subscription. 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So, I almost didn’t have an episode tonight, but I decided to get home, pull myself together, and just eat dinner a little bit later tonight. Get you guys an episode. You guys can’t say I don’t love you. Um, look man, the Pistons lost 116 to 95 and the score of the game at the end treated them well. It it it it did them a solid because this was worse than even the final score puts out there. The Cavs once led by 35 and that was in the fourth quarter. They were up by 35 at one point. They were up for 30 what felt like the entire second half. The Pistons went, I believe, an 11 11 minute stretch with two points in the first half and those two points were free throws. They missed 19 straight field goal attempts from the end of the four first quarter until just about the end of the second quarter. 19 straight field goal attempts. They missed 19 straight. They shot 37% from the floor, 66% from the free throw line. They sent the Cavs to the free throw line 35 times. The Pistons in this game had 29 personal fouls. If we are going to keep it a buck, if we’re going to keep this a buck 50, the Pistons are two and two. They have not played well this year. Individual guys have had good games. Individual guys have had good moments, but the Pistons as a team, they have not played well this year. In three of their games, if I’m remembering this correctly, they have been they have found themselves down 23-1, 17-1, and now in this one, 35 points in three of their four games. They were down heavy against Chicago early, tried to pull it out, couldn’t do it. They are down. Actually, they had a fine game against Houston. Give it to that one. Give it to them in that one. Their next game, down big early, bad first quarter. found themselves down immediately, come back, get a win. This game against Cleveland, found themselves down early, don’t ever come back. Finding themselves down early has been a repetitive theme for this team through four games. This team has fouled more than I have seen an NBA team foul. I I have not watched the team game to game foul as much as the Pistons have had open the year. They had 30 plus fouls last game. They had 29 this game. They’re sending opponents to the free throw line a god just a unbelievable amount. They can’t play defense. They’re fouling. Their shooters can’t shoot. They’re missing shots. Isaiah Stewart maybe has been their most consistent three-point shooter. He shot one of four tonight. They’re turning the ball over like crazy. Kade had eight turnovers last game. He had five tonight. Their half court offense is is 70% of the time abysmal. The only way that they pull anything out in the half court is Kade hitting a shot, hitting a contested two, Osar driving to the basket, hitting a wild layup, or Jaylen Duran, Assar Thompson, Kate Cunningham getting to the free throw line. That’s their half court offense there. Tobias hasn’t shot that well. He actually shot two of five from deep, but two of eight from the floor tonight. Duncan Robinson has been bad to start the year. Through four games, this team is lucky to be honest. They are lucky to be two and two because they have not played great at all. They have not play. They let one get away in Chicago because they didn’t play well early. They got destroyed here because they didn’t play early and really didn’t play well at any point. Last game they pulled it out, but they start off bad early again. They are without Caris Levert, who is one of their guys that they spent a lot of money on the offseason. He’s yet to play and make an impact. Jaden Ivy is hurt. He’s yet to make an impact. Marcus Sasser, someone who you think maybe could have helped the half court offense scoring wise, he’s been out without given a chance to really get any minutes. this team. It’s only four games, but through four games, they have not looked very good. They have not looked promising. Indivi, again, individual players have had their moments, but as a team, their team construction doesn’t look great through four games. The lineups that are being put on the floor have not been the best. But also, JB hasn’t been given much to work with with what he’s putting on the floor. I’m telling you guys right now, we’re getting too much Devonte Green minutes. Devonte Grant is seeing the floor way too much. It’s is too much for me. The Pistons best player is having an absolute horrific start to the season. Jaylen Duran had four turnovers again tonight. This is backto-back games that were four turnovers for him and he did that in just 20 minutes of action. Again, I like I said, Tobias two of eight. Stew was one of nine. I mean, this team got absolutely obliterated tonight. And I don’t care if it was a back-to-back. I don’t care if it’s against one of the best teams in the East. 35. I’m not saying they have to win. I’m not saying even you have to keep it under 10 points, but 35 to go 19 straight possessions missing a field goal attempt. 19 straight. I kid you guys not. I was at this game. Fans were leaving in the second quarter. I’m not joking. They were fans beneath me. I was sitting in the 114 area in the media booth. There were fans beneath me. If you were one of the fans that left, you guys can back me up in the comments if if you’re one of the people I’m talking about. They were people leaving at halftime. They left. They got out. They weren’t just going to the going to the stands. They said, “We’re leaving.” I didn’t see them come back. This was an absolutely pathetic performance. And does one game make or break their season? No. Could they come out next game and look much like the team we expect them to look, especially in the defensive end, the team we saw more often in the Houston Rockets game or more so in the in this past game before this one against Cleveland for the better part of three quarters? Yes. Could that happen? 100%. But that doesn’t excuse coming out and putting out this type of performance at home in front of your home crowd getting absolut the Cleveland Cavaliers. felt like we’re trying to send a message to the Pistons because they had Donovan Mitchell and Evan Mobley out while they were up 35 in the fourth quarter with like eight minutes left. They still had them on the floor just just laughing at the Pistons. They just obliterated them. It it was even close. Kade felt like he was in had no match for Donovan Mitchell. Was in no no league of his. Assar didn’t have a good game. Barely played. Looked like he got hurt early on. He went out of called for himself to come out of the game. Watched them go back to the locker room. came back like 5 to 7 minutes later. I watched him on the bench. I It looked like either he was sick feeling. I don’t know if JB commented on this after the game, but I’m watching him on the bench. He’s being tended to. I’m seeing him putting his heads in his hand. He’s having this towel. So, I don’t know if he’s sick. I don’t know if he was hurt, but he called for himself to come out of the game at the end of the first quarter. Went back to the locker room, came back, played like six or seven minutes after that, and then didn’t play the rest of the game. So, who knows what’s happening there, but he didn’t play that well in his minutes anyways. Went three of six. Tobias played poorly. Jaylen Durren didn’t play that well. Duncan Robinson played poorly. Stew played poorly. Ron played poorly. Devonte Green played poorly. Dan Jenkins played poorly. Paul Reed played poorly. Chaz Laneir played poorly. Kobe Jones played poorly. Bobby Clipman played poorly. Too Smith played poorly. I don’t care what their stat lines were. You find yourself down 35 points. 35 at home. Every single person on the roster played like trash. Unacceptable. Unacceptable. Coming up, Kate Cunningham has to be better. He is an allNBA player. He is the Pistons franchise player. He is their max contract player. He cannot play like this. He has to be better. We’ll discuss it coming up. Today’s episode’s brought to you by FanDuel. The NBA is back and there’s no better place to get in on the action than with FanDuel, the official sports betting partner of the NBA. Even if you miss the start of the game or want to ride the hot hand, FanDuel has live bets on everything from who will score the next to fourth quarter comebacks. Plus, you can even combine your live bets into same game parlays for a shot at a bigger payout. It keeps everything in every game more exciting, especially when your team’s making that late push. 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So, I want to thank you guys again. Make locked on Pistons your first listen of every single day. We are free to develop on all your podcast platforms. If you haven’t already, head to the YouTube channel at locked on pistons. Hit that subscribe button or leave us a fivestar review on whatever podcast platform you’re listening to this on. This is another great way to support the podcast. Check out the description down below for the subs uh the Substack deal. 50% off all subscriptions or check out the playback room if you want to watch live games with me and the rest of Piston’s fan base. I regret crumpling up that that box score paper. I did it for an effect. I hope it worked, but I kind of was using it. So, I I was using it to keep track of, you know, stats and what I was talking about. So, now I had to pull up the stats on my phone. This is what the Pistons do to me. Um K Cunningham, he is their franchise player. He is the max contract player, the super max contract player. He is the allNBA player. He is a player that in preseason was playing so well that he had me coming on the podcast saying this could be the year that Cade secures himself as a bonafide top 10 player in the league without discussion. There’s no argument that maybe this is the year he does it. Talked about how three-point shot looked amazing. The finishing at the rim looked absolutely fantastic. Everything looked like it was coming together. I’ve never seen him play so well and I hadn’t in the preseason. That was the best I’ve ever seen Kade look. He was dominating. He was fantastic. And now to start the season. I mean, you can you can’t m it couldn’t have went any worse for him. This is what Kate’s putting up on the season. 20.3 points, 7.8 assists on 48 true shooting, worse than Killian Hayes true shooting. 5.5 turnovers. 5.5 turnovers. Did I mention 48 true shooting? He’s shooting 26% from deep, 41% on twos, and 36% from the field. I mean, that’s just straight up abhorent. I mean, like, listen, I it’s straight up that that is cuckill statline. That that right there is cuckill splits. 36 26 with 5.5 turnovers a game. That is that that’s just straight up horrible. We’ve talked about Kade having these slow starts for his entire career. He’s had these slow starts every single year of his career and then after about two weeks he heats up and he looks like Kate again. We know we like we know that. We get it. We see it every year. Unfortunately, it seems like that’s going to be the case this year. It’s happened every year of his career and we’ve watched him turned around then looked like Kate. It almost feels like there’s a part of you that’s like not concerned because you’ve seen this so often to where you know that this is how it goes. You know how the story goes. Kade will struggle for a week and a half. People will say, “Oh, we’re concerned about Kade.” And after a week and a half, he’ll look like Kade and then be fine the rest of the year. Like we’ve seen that story now four times. So it’s like, okay, in one breath, but then the other breath it’s like he hasn’t played this poorly to start the season any year of his career. Now, do I believe he’s gonna play this poorly moving forward? No, I do not. But the point is is that now that he’s on this extension, now that he’s on this supermax contract, he’s a NBA player and he’s trying to prove himself as one of the best players in the entire NBA. At no point, beginning of the year, quarter way through the year, middle of the year, 75% through the year, 80% through the year, 90% through the year, in the playoffs, in the preeason, there is no point where this type of play should be acceptable at all. Now, now for a oneame stretch, two game stretch, a three game stretch, a half a quarter stretch, there is no stretch of basketball where you can accept this type of play from your best player. In case you guys didn’t hear me, he’s averaging 20 points on 48 true shooting. That is worse than Killian Hayes true shooting. He is shooting 41% on twos and 26% on threes while turning the ball over 5.5 times a game. The Pistons have won two games. They’ve won they they’re two and two and he’s a minus 3.8 when he’s on the floor. Again, I don’t expect this to continue. We have seen Kate struggle early on and turn it around every year of his career. That’s not so much my concern. My concern is is that why every year does this have to happen. That’s number one. And number two, there is again like I said earlier, when you are now being paid like this and when you have proven yourself to be the face of the franchise, there is no time when this can be acceptable. No time. This is this is the worst I’ve seen him play in maybe two years. Like I don’t remember him ever playing this bad last year. Honestly, going back to the the the the the terrible season from two years ago. All I remember from that season is Kade trying his best to get them a win, scoring 40 plus multiple times and not mattering. So honestly, I don’t remember him playing bad this year that year. I’m sure he had bad games, but all I remember from that that season is 28game losing streak and Kade dropping 40 points four times in two weeks to try to get them a win. That’s the only thing I remember from that that season. I have to go back three years to think of a stretch where I can vividly remember Kade playing this bad. This is you. This can’t happen. It’s unacceptable. I believe he’ll turn it around Wednesday one day against Orlando. I think it’ll happen, but man, this is you. This can’t be accepted. And Cade wouldn’t Kade’s not accepting it himself. He’ll tell you himself. But this is this is terrible. I can’t I can’t sugarcoat this. This is This is actually terrible how bad he’s played. I want to point this out though to dive a little further into it. There’s a part of the Pistons offense that we are just not seeing at all and it was one of it was a such a big feature of their offense last year and we’re just not seeing it at all this year and it’s hurting Kate I think. And no guys, it’s not Malik Beasley. And I just want to let you actually know, let me go ahead and comment on that since I brought it up. I am not discussing Malik Beasley on this podcast. If you guys want Malik Beasley talk, you guys will have to find another podcast. I am not talking about somebody anymore or acting like that player will be on a basketball team when we just watch Chanty Phillips and Terry Rosir and Damon Jones and more investigation going on get arrested for gambling and get investigated and this player that everyone keeps believing is coming back is also under gambling investigation and is still not on the team. I don’t know. I don’t know why. I’m not saying anything’s coming from Malik Beasley, but I don’t know why people are trying to talk themselves into, “Oh, this will be better once Malik gets back.” Malik is not on the team. Malik is not here. He is currently being investigated by the FBI for gambling. I We have to stop acting like he is coming back. If he comes back at some point, great. By the way, this idea that if he does come back, he’s going back to the Pistons when there’s multiple teams that apparently that would be interested in him when eventually he’s allowed to come back. I like why why I don’t understand why people are just penciling him as a Detroit Piston when again he’s not on the roster and is being investigated for something we just watched a former Piston and a current NBA player get arrested for at 6 a.m. in the morning. I am not going to act like Millie Beasley is coming back this year because I don’t think he is. And if he does, great. I’ll talk about it then. But he is not a Detroit Piston that I am not going to sit here and act like when he comes back oh things are changing. I don’t know he’s coming back. He’s probably not coming back. I don’t think he is. Continuing to talk about him I think is maddening. It’s maddening to hear his name continually brought up. Anyways, that’s not the part of the offense. Sorry. That’s not the part of the offense that hasn’t been a part of the Pistons. His Cade postups last season for the Detroit Pistons. Kade had 113 postups where he scored 1.0 points per possession. He was in the 58th percentile. Last year in the paint, not but not at the rim. The restricted area non-p paint or non- rim looks, Kade was one of the best in the entire NBA. On the short mid-range looks, the hook shots, he was the best hook shot guard in the entire NBA of non bigs. Anyone who was a non- big, he had the highest percent on hook shots this past year in the NBA. He was in the I believe 88th percentile on all shots four to 14 feet from the rim. That’s in that mid post area that he loved to work out of. He was fantastic in that role and that was a heavy dosage of the Detroit Pistons half court offense. That was last year. Fast forward to this year. The Pistons have played four games. Kates has exactly one post up. One. And you know what? Just to find out what that post up was, let’s go ahead and click that clip. I have synergy now. Let’s go ahead and click synergy and let me just see what this post up looked like. Was this even actually a post up? Was it Was it like at the end of a shot clock or what was it? Now it was Okay, so it was an actual post up earlier in their game against Chicago first quarter. Three minutes into the game against Chicago. That was his only post up of the entire season. We haven’t seen Cade in the post at all this year so far through four games. Why not? Why not? We know that’s one of the areas he thrives in. That was one of the biggest reason why his efficiency took such a large jump this past year. He started taking shots that he was exceptional at. He dominated because he was such a bigger guard, getting to a paint, had soft touch on his hook shots, is able to draw free throws on it, elevate over guys. That was one of his best uses on offense. And this year he goes from 113 possession or 113 post up possessions last year to one through four games. Why? What’s going on? Why is that happening? Why is that happening? And no, this includes postups, including passes. He’s had one total post up, whether he shoots or passes it, one. I don’t get that. That has to be changed. But outside of that, Kade has to just flat out be better. It’s unacceptable from your franchise player. It’s unacceptable from your best player, your max contract player. He has to play better. Do I believe he’ll be better? Yes. But it has to start now. It we we can’t we can’t keep doing the wait 15 games and then turns up. 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That’s monarch.com code lockedmbba for half off your first year with Monarch money. So I want to thank you guys again. Make locked on Pistons your first list of every single day. We are free to develop on all your podcast platforms. If you haven’t already, head to the YouTube channel at Lockdown Pistons. Hit that subscribe button or leave us a fivestar review on whatever podcast platform you’re listening to this on. That’s another great way to support the podcast. Check out the description down below. Substack playback, all that good stuff. There’s been a lot of talk from the community, from the Pistons fan base I’ve seen asking, should Ron Holland start? Should Ron Holland start for the Pistons instead of Duncan Robinson and play Cade, Ron, Assar, Tobias, Duran together? This is my answer. No. First of all, reason number one you can’t do that, this lineup has had le has had four games. And while it’s been an uneven four games, many people, including myself, despite my ranting earlier, you have to give a decent sample size before you start making big changes to your lineups. I think you can’t just be changing lineups every four games or you never will get enough sample size to know what actually works. I don’t think you’ll see a lineup change for the Pistons until at least 10 g 10 games in at least and maybe not even then. So that’s reason number one. Reason number two, I would not start Ron. Ron hit a three late in this game to make the percentage look better. Like by the when it was like a 30-point game already in the fourth quarter, he hit one to make it look better. But this was Von’s three-point shooting until then. 104 in the first game, two of five in the second game. That’s fine. 0 of4 against Boston, and it was one of two tonight before he hit a shot in the fourth quarter. He is shooting it much more confidently, much more confidently. And we can believe in his long-term development as a shooter 100%. But with the way we are watching teams guard him, they still are not guarding him at the three-point line obviously. And he is not making them pay enough to where you can play him for long stretches with a lineup such as the one people are suggesting they play him with. People are already complaining about the phone booth that they say Kate’s working in with no space. That it’s back to two years ago where Kate has no space and there’s no driving lanes and all of this stuff. And I think there’s some truth to it. Some truth. Not a lot, but some. Because basically this lineup that Cage playing with is basically the same one he played with majority of last year. But there’s certain lineups that he is played with that I think Okay. Yeah, that’s that’s trying to make wine out of water. I get it. You want to make it worse, take them one shooter on the team and Duncan Robinson, sit him for a guy the teams don’t respect from shooting shooting from outside. You’re going to play him with you’re going to play Cade with Ron Assar and Duran offensively in the half court when the half court’s already struggling as it is. You’re going to play your solution is to bring Ron in for Duncan. You want to talk about Kade struggling to get driving lanes, you really will think Kade’s struggling to get driving lanes. Then the problem with starting Ron, I think Ron and Assaar can only play be played together in my opinion with Stu. If you’re going to play Ron and Assar together, it has to be with Stu because then you can put Stu uh Duncan and Cade or Stu, Tobias, and Cade together. And now you have three shooters with Ron and Assar on the wings. That works. trying to play Ron Assar and Duran together. I you’re you’re you’re you’ve pushed the limits. You’ve pushed the boundaries. You’ve went too far. You’re not making that work. Nobody’s making that work. You you you’ve you’ve crossed the line, I think. And I get it. I get it. Um he has not Duncan Robbins has not been good. Okay, I get it. He’s not been good. He struggled and the Pistons have at times started out the gate slow even though if you want to be honest tonight tonight the starting lineup wasn’t like the starting lineup let me actually you know what I was at the game in the media booth I don’t remember the Pistons starting lineup starting off that bad. I that wasn’t the thing that Let me confirm this. I’m pretty sure it was like a tie game when the starters started coming in. Yeah, the first sub to as Isaiah Stewart comes in for Tobias, the score 1614. Ryan comes in for Assar, the score is 1718. The the starters weren’t why this team this game got out of hand. They didn’t start slow in the first quarter. They at the end of the first quarter with that putrid lineup of of I what was it? They had Javvante Green, Isaiah Stewart, Ron Holland. Let me let me go double check what this lineup was. Jenkins, Green, Holland, Tobias, and Stew. That lineup allowed an 110 run to end the quarter and then the Pistons never recovered after that. That’s what really did it. So I the starting lineup didn’t start off that slow in this game. That’s that’s I guess reason whatever we’re on. Reason number three. You just if you’re going in order to start Ryan and Stew or Ron and Assar, you then would have to make changes elsewhere. and you’re not making changes elsewhere. Also, I guess reason number four, Ron’s playing pretty well in his role off the bench. Giving him a bigger role four games into the second season because he’s playing well off the bench is probably putting too much on his plate. You probably would like to see him just continue to excel in the role that he currently has, let him continue to develop, continue to excel in it before you go ahead and start putting the burden of, hey, we need a secondary scoreer, go be that for us as soon as he starts playing well off the bench. Think that’s all a little too much. I also think it’s a bit reactionary. We don’t need to be going too far. We don’t need to be overreacting. I can come on here and talk about how bad this loss was, how putrid this loss was, and how Cage should never have a four game stretch where he plays this bad when he’s on this type of contract and is this type of player. That’s all true. Making drastic changes off of four game sample size to open the year where I I said earlier I wouldn’t do this, but I guess now I would have to on a back end of a backtoback against one of the best teams in the league making drastic changes. I think that would be foolish. That’s That’s too reactionary. Let’s give it 10 games. I give things usually 20 games. I think that’s a good sample size. But at least 10 games before we start trying to change everything. Let’s like let’s just I This was a horrific loss. And Ron is playing well, but let Ron continue to play well in the role that he has. He’s still extremely young. Let them be able to find the laps they want to play him in. Don’t force him in laps that no that I don’t think even he would thrive in. He wouldn’t thrive in it. Kade wouldn’t thrive in it. Assar wouldn’t thrive in it. Duran’s not thriving it. Tobias isn’t thriving it. No one’s thriving in a situation where there’s three guys on the court that teams aren’t going to guard 10 feet from the rim. Like, that’s not going to work. I don’t care how good your defense is. You can’t have three non-shooters. This isn’t 1990. You can’t go that far. You can get away with two. You can get away with two. Three. You’re not getting away with it, dude. I’m I’m sorry. You’re not. Especially when the team that you’re talking about already is struggling massively in the half court. Adding another non-truter line. If you’re not, it’s just not happening. It’s like it’s just going to make it worse. It’s going to make it worse. At least that’s how I feel about it. So, let me know comment section down below or over on Twitter, Cook how you guys are feeling after this loss. Are you guys calm? Are you guys reaction? You know, just let me know how you guys are feeling. That’s all I’ve got for you guys today. Thank you guys for making lockdown pistons your first listen every single day. If you’re involved on all your podcast platforms, hit that subscribe button to YouTube channel. Leave us a five star review. Whatever podcast platform you’re listening to us on. And until next time, I will see you guys later. Stay safe out there. Peace out everybody.

Pistons’ Struggles Deepen: Cade Cunningham’s Slump Raises Alarms

Detroit’s devastating loss to Cleveland exposes glaring issues. Host Ku Khahil breaks down the Pistons’ abysmal shooting, excessive fouls, and turnover woes. Cade Cunningham’s disappointing start takes center stage, with stats revealing his inefficient play. The analysis covers potential lineup changes, questioning the absence of Cunningham’s post-up game, and debating Ron Holland’s role. Is it time to panic, or can the Pistons right the ship?

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48 comments
  1. Ngl… Upset Ku is waayyy more entertaining then Glazer Ku 😂.

    Duncan has understood the assignment for only 1 out of 4 games so far – that is, he has to play out of his mind and body the entire time he's on the floor and be what essentially is a top 3 scorer on this team. Beasley gave up buckets on defense but he was able to get them back on the other end, forcing the defense to sweat and account for him. The daunting question is if Duncan can't mimic Beasley, who on this team can?

  2. Ausar through 4 games has regressed as a shooter 57% from ft line and 16% from 3. Ausar being a non threat on perimeter is limiting Cade

    The Pistons lineup of T. HARRIS – D. ROBINSON – C. CUNNINGHAM – J. DUREN – A. THOMPSON has worst offensive net rating in the league at 91.7 and a net rating of -23 change is needed in the starting lineup

  3. Pistons seem to have their old spacing issues again and I think that’s why you’re seeing Cade much less in the post—Ausar taking on more of an offense role attacking the rim probably doesn’t help this either (as much as I like the newfound aggression)

  4. i watched to end and i enjoyed it! It was shit but it was like a training ground for the players available! We are missing some decent pieces that help the offence which has been our problem! So i think stay 50/50 for now and get peeps healthy or bring on the next! We are capable and its just the start of a new season!

  5. I was "duped" into ordering Peacock, just to watch the Pistons when they are exclusively on Peacock. I ALREADY Pay for NBA League Pass!!! This was the worst I've ever seen the Pistons play! In fact this is the worst I remember any NBA has ever played!

  6. Even last year, when they started 0 and 4, you could see progress. This year's 2 and 2 looks a WHOLE LOT WORSE than last season's 0 and 4!!!!! Nauseating!

  7. I'm so impressed with how the road commentators have been giving Cade and the Pistons their flowers. That will end very soon if Cade doesn't improve and especially the Pistons.

  8. Let’s slow down a second. Yes, we are playing poorly at this point, but are still right where I expected at 2-2, and if anyone expected better at this point it was pure optimism. Cade’s slow starts may be due to adjusting to new systems and teammates every single year; yes it should be ironed out preseason but again we have some guys missing.

    Cade’s 118 post ups last season averages just about 1.5 per game, so 1 in 4 games is down, but not a huge amount. Cade’s posting up is going to be very match up dependent, so when he has 4 in a couple of games he will be right back on pace.

    I agree 4 games is too soon to call for big lineup changes, especially at 2-2, but if things don’t look better soon we can’t wait long otherwise it will look like Monty 2.0 with Killian.

  9. bruh that sponsored part was the best/funniest part of the video and best sponsor ad I've seen! "but hidden fee I did have, was I had to watch the Pistons lose by 30 plus" 😂😂😂

  10. Y’all need to relax, we’re sitting at .500 after one of the toughest first five games in the league. What’s wild is we’ve been playing below our potential and still breaking even. We’ve had some solid runs, but Cade needs more help. The floor spacing just isn’t there, if Stew and Ron are your best shooters, that’s a problem. Duncan’s in a slump, but Jalen’s been doing his thing on both ends.
    Honestly, our bench, Ron and Stew outplaying the starters. I don’t want to see Ausar taking midrange or threes right now; his rhythm is off, and his jumper has no flow at all. Chaz looks like he’s lost confidence, he’s hesitant with the ball. Jenkins doesn’t know how to run an offense; he’s a scorer, not a facilitator. Unc is doing his thing, but he’s got to tighten up on defense. All in all, before we start handing out grades or losing our minds, let’s see how we look after 10 games.

  11. Please detroit fans calm down they will be okay damn it's only been 4 games cade will turn it around especially when Jaden gets back so calm the F down.

  12. A star player should always be ready to go and perform. None of this he starts slow at at the beginning of the season. No excuses! I dont see Mitchell making excuses. Dude balled out. This team looking worse than last year.

  13. Cade not the guy yall think I been saying the same shit for years yall so delusional and stuck on him being a 1st round 1st pick yall can’t see clear we never winning anything with him leading this team

  14. This team is a 7 or 8 seed this season they will have a down year losing Dennis Beasley THJ hurts that was the team chemistry… plus Caris levert looks like a bad signing.. also the ivey injury is hurting the team as well. I call it at the beginning of the season we will have a down year.

  15. I'm not concerned about Cade, I'm concerned he doesn't have help. Obviously he would with JI but the Pistons took a risk on him being healthy and lost. We're back to needing a Shroder type, and Duncan is not going to fill in for Beas in terms of grit/hunger/energy.

  16. It's about time we all start acknowledging the fact that every single Cleveland cavalier fan wanted JB fired because of his lack of creativity on offense and how he was so predictable. I know you guys remember but Donovan Mitchell constant ISO with him. When you watch Pistons games it's very easy to tell what's coming next because JB is not creative. We're about to realize the same thing Cleveland did with our coach…

  17. We need Marcus Sasser & Ivey BAD. Duren, Ron, Stew & Ausar have to be disciplined. Cade needs to lead better & stop getting ripped up! JB needs to hold these dudes accountable and pull from bench if they don’t have it. Also, why tf do you not have better actions for when Cade gets in trouble??!

  18. Real coverage right here. That's why i listen to u. They got to get this straightened out. If u see this then coach has to see this.

  19. after that Orlando game, are our "shooters" Green and D.Rob.?

    two dudes who can shoot, sometimes….. where's Fred Vincent? I THOUGHT these were the Fred Vincent years, why JD only one looks like he wanna shoot 3's?

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