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You’re listening to Denver Sports 1043, The Fan. Welcome to Denver Sports Tonight, taking a look at the biggest stories in Denver sports from your online home for the best opinions and information on the Broncos, Nuggets, Avalanche, Rockies, and more. denverports.com. And it is Denver Sports tonight on this Thursday night in the mile high city. He’s an Elo Piro. I’m Will Peterson. We will roll with you for the next hour. Lot to break down as the Avalanche get a big deal done today with Martin Nas. Broncos injury report isn’t getting any better and the Nuggets absolutely embarrassed the Pelicans last night at Ball Arena. We will do all three of them, but we’ll start with the Avalanche solving uh maybe their biggest question, maybe their only question that was left this season, and that was the future of Marty Nis. Well, he got a huge deal this morning, 11.5 million per season over the next 8 years, 60 million plus in a signing bonus upfront and a full no movement clause for the next 7 years. Uh, Anilo, obviously when this news broke today, we were all kind of hoping it would come at one point or another, but we had also all lived through the Miko Rantnon saga last year that ended in a blindside type trade. How uh surprised were you is where I’ll begin that the avalanche at NASA got something done just 11 games into this season? Yeah, I think it definitely came as a surprise just because I know you were talking about what was it January or end of the year is when you wanted to see an extension get done. New Year’s Eve was kind of my unofficial deadline, right? And so I thought that they might wait a little bit just because of how early we are still into the hockey season, but clearly there was mutual interest on both sides. You know, check out the story online denverports.com about some of the details. We’ll break it down for you here on the program tonight as well. But I guess it’s a surprise just because you don’t really expect contract extensions in the middle, let alone the beginning of the year as we saw today with Marty Nous. But I also think Will, it’s a massive sigh of relief that the Avalanche finally were able to put pen to paper with Marty Nas. Of course, the comparisons with Miko Ratnon will be everlasting, but nice to see the Avalanche get a mustne deal done here on October the 30th. Yeah, you couldn’t let this turn into Miko Ratnon 2.0 No, because what was the prize you got for Ranton? Nous, right? And so then if that prize turns around and only plays here for a handful of games last year and then one season this year and then walks out the door this summer in free agency, that’s not exactly going to help Chris McFarland’s uh reputation, if you will, around Avalanche fans of like, well, not only is he the guy who traded Mo, but he couldn’t get the contract done with the next guy who’s supposed to replace Mo. Good news is all those questions went out the door about 7 hours ago. News broke right around 11 a.m. this morning. And I think too that, you know, with this getting done, the Mo thing, like it or not, was a distraction when it was going on in November and December and January. And then it became a mega distraction when on a Friday night in Boston, they traded him. And you had guys like Nathan McKinnon sort of stunned at his locker going, “Uh, players of that caliber don’t get traded.” like he couldn’t even wrap his mind around the fact that the ads had pulled the trigger on this deal. And I don’t think the nature’s thing was a distraction. He’s playing good hockey. The team’s playing good hockey. They’ve only lost in regulation once. But I think it could have turned into a distraction. I think if it hadn’t gotten done and January rolled around, everyone would have said, “Well, what happened 12 months ago when one of our best wingers didn’t have a new deal done?” So, uh, I think the Avalanche were kind of steamrolling towards hopefully another Stanley Cup anyways, or at least a deep playoff run. I think they’re that motivated. this is their most complete team since they won the cup in 2022. But now to just eliminate this question, uh it’s a great day for the ABS. That doesn’t mean you had to like the Mo trade or still not like the Mo trade. But guess what? None of us have a time machine. Mo’s never going to play here ever again. Well, never’s a long time, but he’s not going to play here the next seven years, right? The you can’t go back and change it. So, if you’re an AS fan, which I am an AS fan, you know, I know some people try to paint me as not an AS fan. You’re an ABS realist, Will. I’m a realist. And for my favorite hockey team, the Avalanche, today was a very good day. There’s no other way to slice it. Well, that’s good to hear coming from you as we uh know some of the conversation. I know Zack but that was always my stance is they need to get this extension done. Like we can sit here and go, man, I wish we was still on the ABS. That’s just not going to happen. Like it’s done and over with. And I care a lot more about a second parade in the last 5 years than I do about still harping on that. And the best way toward that path to a parade was figuring this out with Nes. Yeah, no doubt. And I actually really like the timeline of where Nate is at, right? A couple of years younger than Miko Ranton. Mo just turned 29 years old. Nes is still 26, turned 27 uh here in January. And so, you know, you kind of align him a little bit more at the timeline of that of a Kale Macar than a Nathan McKinnon. And I just love no if ends or buts about it. As you alluded to, the Avalanche had to get this deal done or else the Miko Ranton trade just looks absolutely absurd in hindsight. And you’re getting a guy that now is comfortable playing for the Avalanche. talked about how he was thankful for the patience that the organization had with him with respect to signing this contract extension. And now there’s no more looming distractions, right? NASA is taken care of. Landisk is back and ready to roll. No more injury stuff, no more goalending questions. It is a fact of you got to go out there and contend for a Stanley Cup this year because there’s no built-in excuses or questions surrounding your team as there have been the last couple of seasons. And here was Marty Nous today on what ultimately made him feel comfortable signing here with the AS. I feel like uh coming into this season uh having having the whole camp uh being with the guys uh feel feel like a real you know player of a Colorado Avalanche and uh just you know I’ve seen uh the things we can do on the ice and I was like sign me up. So uh yeah it’s good. I mean kind of an interesting answer. I finally feel like a real player of the Colorado Avalanche. I think there is some credence to this guy was kind of stunned. Everyone talked about Miko’s life getting turned upside down. Well, Marty Nas’s life did, too. It’s not his fault that he got traded out of left field. He probably expected to sign this 8-year deal eventually with the Hurricanes, even though he had only gotten kind of a two-year gap deal. And and I don’t think he was thrilled about that. But I I get why he needed some time to acclimate to the ABS and make sure he wanted to be here. And there was that report over the summer that he wasn’t quote overly thrilled with his time in Denver. And he just talked about it there. now he finally feels like a member of the team. I don’t know if that report was 100% accurate, 50% accurate or what, but it was a report attached to Sportsnet, which is an NHL type uh outlet. And the things the answers I heard from Marty Nes today, he did need a little bit of time. And I know Zach had an issue with that. I don’t think me passing that along should be an issue, but that was another key takeaway from today is now he finally felt like the ABS. So now he was comfortable committing to this organiza organization for a long time. And I think that’s perfectly okay, right? I mean, you got a guy here in Martian Nes who has traded mid-season to a new market. And yes, theoretically, you’re playing with Nathan McKinnon. You got a nice head coach and Jared Bedar. You got Kale Mar, you know, two of the top three players in the NHL per ESPN. In theory, and look, I know fans are emotional, right? So the fan probably looks at this trade and is like, we got to get this done because of who we just gave up. But if you put yourself in his shoes, I think it’s perfectly okay for him to just take a step back and take some time and and and think through this decision. And ultimately the cream rises to the top, right? And I think Marty Nous after getting his feet wet and okay, here’s what it’s like to play with McKinnon and here’s what Lannis goggs like and here’s what it’s, you know, like to be a part of this group felt comfortable signing this extension. You don’t want Marty Nous to rush into a decision, regret it, and then pout halfway through the contract extension or asking for a trade. You want the guy to be 100% committed to the vision and the plan that he’s presented with. And it seems like we’re there today as he signs his 8-year contract extension. Yeah. And you and I were talking about the timeline of this deal. Was Marty surprised that it did get done in October. No, we’ve been in talks for for a little bit and uh I knew it’s getting close and uh yeah, I’m happy that it’s it’s done now. I don’t have to worry about that. Uh and you know, just go out there and do my best. Yeah. I mean, if if you’re this guy, it’s like, okay, I now know where I’m living the next eight years of my life. And oh by the way, I’m doing it with $92 million in my pocket. He won’t get all 92, but you know what I’m saying of like he has a girlfriend. He talked about her today. He can move his family here if he wants to. He can go buy a nice house somewhere in Denver that he can turn into a home. I’m sure when he got traded here, he was living out of a hotel and then he was probably renting an apartment. Like these are the kind of things that Marty Nes probably now feels like, oh, I can plan my life a little bit. I can plan that I’m going to be with this team for a while. Well, Nathan McKinnon’s going to be with this team for a long time. Kale Macar is going to be the next priority. Chris McFarland touched on that briefly today. This feels like if you’re him, not only are you rich as heck today, but you have a chance to win multiple championships in your career during the course of this contract. I I understand why he’s elated because today was a very good day for Marty Nes. Yeah, no doubt. And from the Avalanch’s perspective, right, like you’ve just got another rockolid player. Now, we want to see the power play improve and he’s obviously a big part of that component and I think a lot of people look to Miko Ranton and what he did in the playoffs and those handful of games where he just lit the world on fire. So, I think look it the Avalanche are already a great regular season team and much like the Denver Nuggets who are also a great regular season team. You and I and the people that work at this station like we expect them to be a a a top half team in the NHL in the NBA respectively. It’s a matter of can you get over that hump specifically for the Avalanche the last handful of years in the second round. And Marty Niches is a big part of that. I mean, you’re looking at a guy that already has seven goals this season, top 20 in the league in that uh department. You know, top uh let me see here, top 20 as well in points this season for the or in the NHL as well. So, you’ve got a quality guy that in theory should only get better and better and better with the more reps he gets with this team. And that’s part of the reason why I think you’ve seen the Avalanche play the way the way they have this. Yeah. And one more quote you didn’t hear from Nus, but I’ll just read it to you. He said, “I’m glad management gave me some time to figure it out for me to decide where I want to basically spend the next eight years of my life. Not just me, but my family as well. And I am super happy.” Again, I I actually think that sort of strongly reinforces that maybe he wasn’t perfectly thrilled with his first few months as an avalanche and then this summer he gets to spend an offseason with his teammates. We saw all the social media videos of the guys all hanging out with significant others, that kind of stuff. And then, oh, by the way, he’s on a tear to start the year. The only guys he’s trailing in points on the team are McKinnon and Macar, two absolute superstars. I think Marty probably woke up in the last week or two and said, I’m ready to do this thing. I’m ready to do this thing. And again, the key part of the quote, I want to bas where I want to basically spend the next eight years of my life. I’m glad management gave me some time. So for anyone saying, “Oh, he just loved it here from the jump.” I don’t think he did. But I think now he loves it from the jump and he was more than happy to be an Avalanche for the entire prime of his career. Yeah. And I think it’s good on both sides here, right? Cuz you kind of saw the other side of the coin. Now the avalanche, I think from what we’ve gathered were very patient with Miko Ranton, right? But it got to a point where they were like enough’s enough. Like this guy ain’t signing for what we want him to sign for. Let’s flip him. And then it’s like you get the two two sides to that story to be fair. Two sides, right? But like point being like the Avalanche clearly at some point after negotiation after negotiation after negotiation lost their patience or just felt like they were never going to reach a deal. So they ended up making that move versus on this instance maybe it’s because of the weight of the moment and knowing what you got nature’s for. Nice to see the patience and maybe not the same dropping of the hammer potentially that we’ve seen in the past. All right, here was Chris McFarland on how it feels to get this deal done today. Really nice. Yeah. Um, it it’s always good when you can get them done as quick as possible, right? It just takes all the conjecture out of it and just lets you focus on on the ice and then, you know, sort of what your needs are and and things of that sort. But they’re not easy deals to do. So, but it’s it’s a good day. It is a good day and I think it’s a good day for Chris McFarland and Elo because I touched on it briefly but he was the GM that ultimately made the Miko Randon trade a top 10 player in franchise history a trade that several NHL insiders have called the biggest in the league in the last 20 years and the guy he acquired for him will now be an avalanche for a long time. And yeah, Mo won round one. He just did. He scored a hat-tick in game seven to eliminate the ABS from the playoffs. But that’s what’s nice about this deal is it’s kind of like a boxing match, right? Mo got round one, but guess what? The ABS are gonna go punch back in round two, and then there’s going to be a round three, a round four, round five, round six. Like, as we sit here today, the Avalanche lost the Miko Rand trade. He ended their season. But by getting this deal done with Marty Nes, they did ensure the fight’s going to go seven, eight rounds, and it’s not just going to be a KO punch because he leaves this summer in free agency. I think Chris McFarland was he never said the word today, but I think the tone was he was relieved to be answering questions from the media about all good news and good news that he along with the Kroni Sports uh ownership helped accomplish, right? And he’s obviously a a key member of this Avalanche core and I talked about it a little bit earlier in the segment about I like where this deal lines up for the Avalanche because of his age compared to that of Mo. But if we’re looking at it in a short-term landscape here, I mean, the next three years, you’re looking at championship or bust mentality from this Avalanche team because now you’ve got NUS under contract, McKinnon, Landisk, Nachushkin, De uh Devon Taves as well, Brock Nelson, and Mackenzie Blackwood. So, there is your core nucleus for the Avalanche for the next three seasons where you can sit back and say, “Okay, we’ve got goalending figured out. We’ve got our top line figured out. We’ve got one of the best players in the world and Nathan McKinnon and Kale Mar as well. It’s time for the Avalanche to stop worrying about the outside noise and focus on winning a Stanley Cup, which they’re in a position to do. Yeah, and the management has put him in a position to do that. Uh, especially by getting this done today. And I I did mention it that that McFarland hinted at, you know, Mar’s coming next and he has to come next because he’s maybe the best defenseman to ever play the game. You got to make sure he plays his whole career in Colorado. I mean, the numbers back it up. you know, or and coffee are probably above him right now just based on longevity, but Mar is trending to be the best defenseman to ever play this game. And I do want to remind people, he’s not a free agent next summer. We don’t have to worry about it. But it’s the following summer. And you don’t let a guy like Kale Mar go into the last year of his deal. You got to find a way hopefully after a parade, right? hopefully after a parade in late June to extend Kale Mar for six, seven, eight more years in an avalanche uniform and not that that absolutely cannot bleed into October. That needs to get done in the month of July. And I think it will I I don’t think anybody you correct me if you feel differently that seems like it’ll be a mere formality with Kale Mar. Like it seems like the Avalanche are very much aware what Kale Macar means to this organization, what he means to the NHL as a whole, and just to your point on the trajectory that he’s on. I have no like the same qualms and worries that we had about Marty N’s discussion or that of Miko Rant and I don’t think will be the same when it’s Kil Mar’s time. Yeah, no doubt. I want to hear from Jared Bednar real quick on this too. We’re going to get to Broncos. We’re with you another 10 minutes or so before our first break, but uh here was head coach Jared Bednar on the relief of getting this deal done. I I think I like the fact that it’s getting done now. There’s no question. And I think it’s just something else off the table that we can just keep concentrating on hockey. And probably more so for like Marty than me, you know, like we’re players have things going on in their lives and that can be, you know, distracting at times. It’s, you know, they’re people like anybody else. There’s lots going on. And I think just one thing that if it was weighing on him at all, it certainly hasn’t showed on the ice, but you certainly don’t wanted to get it to that point. So, he wanted to stay. We wanted to have him. And yeah, I’m really glad we were able to get it done. And I like that answer from Jared of like, hey, this wasn’t affecting him, but also he’s human, too. And we never wanted it to get to the point where it was affecting his play, affecting our team, that kind of stuff. Uh the 6711 shouting out all the hockey talk. You’re welcome. It was a big deal for hockey in this town today. So, we are happy to chat about it. And then the 8728 and the 8928. Uh, not very kind to me. It’s crazy your numbers are only one apart, but I’m going to let that is crazy. Wow. Lie. All right, let’s get to this Broncos injury report, Anilo, because it’s not getting any better. That’s for sure. Uh, unfortunately, no of the same three guys at practice today. Patan, the headline. Not a surprise. We knew he wasn’t going to play. We actually all relieved he wasn’t on IR. But the one I’ve got my eye on is not Nate Atkins. Uh I wish him the best coming back here soon, but it’s Marvin Mims Jr. with this concussion. He’s a DNP for a second day in a row. Yes, guys can clear concussion protocol on a Friday. Don’t get me wrong, but that Mims took that big hit against the Cowboys, but it wasn’t like there was some big stoppage in the game and there was a card out or anything like that, but in hindsight, he definitely got concussed. I thought Drew Spivac put it best of like if that was college football, it would have been targeting. guy probably would have been thrown out of the game. Um, I think Mims being hurt is a sneaky big injury, not only in the special teams game, but as he started to accelerate as a wide receiver, too, against a stingy Houston defense. Uh, I wouldn’t say this was on a lot of Broncos fans radars 48 hours ago. But I think as we get close to the game, and no PS2 is not going to play, that Mims is going to be the one to watch. Yes, we all wish the best corner in the NFL was out there. Um, but I’m not expecting Marvin Mims Jr. to play against the Texans on Sunday. Yeah, and that’d be a major blow. I mean, Marvin Mims has been one of your top three skill position players, right? Like, obviously, you got Courtland Sutton, who’s the safety blanket for Bo Knicks. Marvin Mims has been dynamic for this Broncos team on special teams and in the passing game. And then you got JK Dobbins, who’s been one of the better running backs in the NFL so far this season. And so, you know, if Marvin Mims does miss this game on Sunday against the Texans, obviously, it’s not a good thing, but I’m still waiting to see a little bit more from this offense with respect to the other guys. Like you saw Troy Franklin kind of break out last week against Dallas with the two touchdowns. RJ Harvey, welcome to the show with the three touchdowns in one game. But the guy that you and I spent like all off season talking about is Evan Ingram. And I feel like we have yet to see Evan Ingram be completely unleashed in this Shawn Peyton offense. Like obviously you want Marvin Mims out there. But if he’s not out there, in theory that’s more opportunities, more catches for Evan Ingram. Another guy that we heard a lot about in the offseason was Pat Bryant. I get he’s a rookie, but where’s he been? So, it might force Shawn Payeyton’s hand a little bit to run a couple less jet sweeps to Marvin Mims and open up the playbook a little bit for some other guys. Yeah, and it was good to see Pat Bryant get his first touchdown last week. There’s no doubt about it. But yeah, guys got seven catches for 86 yards. It’s not like his rookie year has lit the world on fire by any stretch. Ingram started to feel like he’s getting more involved, but man, Mim’s not playing. I just love what Mims can do. I think I think Franklin is too much of a roller coaster for me to truly call him the number two receiver on this team and I would feel comfortable calling Mims the number two receiver. So you look at it, Broncos going to be without their star corner. We almost know that for 100% fact. Broncos are likely going to be without their number two receiver. That’s trending more and more in that direction. And oh by the way, what happened today in Houston? Nico Collins cleared the concussion protocol after missing last week. and he’s going to go up most likely against Riley Moss and Oh, you love Riley Moss, Will. He’s a nice enough guy. I don’t love him as a football player. Doesn’t pass the eye test for me, but um let’s just say things aren’t trending particularly well for the Broncos. Certan Mims likely down, Collins up. The injury pendulum is definitely swinging Houston’s way in this matchup, right? And on top of that, you’re looking at a Houston Texans defense has been one of the best units in the NFL, right? and Bo Knicks obviously great against the Dallas Cowboys, but outside of that, it’s been a bit of a mixed bag from Bo throughout the course of the season going on the road right after a couple of consecutive home games. Not saying this is a trap game necessarily by any stretch because I have a lot of respect for Houston. I just don’t think they’ve they’d be the first to tell you they haven’t live up to the expectations they have for themselves. Quality team, CJ Strata, quality quarterback. But it’s going to be a real test for the Broncos. Test that depth. Teso Knicks a little bit and let’s see what they can do without the reigning defending defensive player of the year and one of their most dynamic offensive players potentially in Marvin Mims. And it’s funny, too, because here’s the thing. We’re all going to focus on uhoh Mims can’t go. Broncos down their number two receiver. Well, if they just run the football, maybe this wouldn’t be as big of a talking point. But the problem is somehow the Broncos have the third leading rusher in the NFL. And I would say, I don’t know, 90% of the fan base thinks they still don’t run the ball enough. Maybe this is the type of game, and I know it’s going to sound like a big number, and people are going to tell me it’s never going to happen. It probably is never going to happen, but I’ll just throw it out there. I’d like to see JK Dobbins get 25 carries on Sunday. Something that large. And just, you know what, if the clock runs quickly and the game’s over by 130 and you leave Houston with a 20 to 14 win, great. I completely agree with you. I mean, I think JK Dobbins has also earned the right to pound the rock a little bit more. And it’s it’s I don’t have the numbers in front of me to back this up, but I’ve been at every single Broncos home game covering it for us here at Denver Sports. Check out the website, of course, social media as well. When they commit to the run, it just feels like a weight is lifted off of Bo Knicks shoulders. And obviously, you know, he’s been good in tempo. I know Sean hates that topic as well, but it just feels like the running back, and this isn’t brain science here or rocket science, like the the running game is the quarterback’s best friend in the passing game because you’re able to kind of divvy it up with the run and the pass attack. And to your point, you know, JK Dobbins is the third leading rusher in the NFL, he should be rewarded for that. You should lean into that a little bit more. Now, it’s one thing if this is Bo Knicks in year eight, year nine, right? And he’s got full confidence and we’ve seen the full spectrum of his performance, but Bo Nicks is still a young developing NFL quarterback as we are currently constructed and sitting here today. So, yeah, I do think they should pound the rock a little bit more. And maybe not even just JK Dobbins. I mean, R.J. Harvey was phenomenal. Absolutely phenomenal in that game against the Cowboys. I just think it’s and I’m not as smart as Shawn Payeyton, but it it just seems logical to keep running the ball to set up the play action game for Bow and Co. Yeah. And JK Dobbins, I know he uh is generating some chatter this afternoon because he met with the media and spoke about how an extension is not on his mind. Uh but I think an extension should be on his mind. I mean, this guy’s been great. And yes, he’s handsomely compensated for playing football in terms of we’d all love to make $2.5 million to play a game, but he’s not properly compensated for what the going rate is for a top three running back in the NFL. Uh, I was curious your thoughts on that. If I’m the Broncos, and I I pounded the table a couple weeks ago for that. I’ve seen it enough. JK Dobbins should get a new contract. JK Dobbins said today he wants to finish his career in Denver. I would 100% pay this guy and he wouldn’t have to break the bank. First of all, it’s not our money. It’s the ownership 68 billion or whatever their current number is. And second of all, we’re not talking about a three-year $30 million extension. You could probably lock JK Dobbins in with a 2-year $10 million extension. Give him give him double his money next year and double the following year. I think he would run to sign that thing given his injury history. And I think the Broncos would be smart to get out in front of it. I don’t know if they can get him for that cheap, but if you’re also if you’re Look what he’s making this year. No, I know. But and all that’s relative, but I’m looking at running back salaries in the NFL right now. Like you could draw the line at like a James Cook who’s making 11 and a half. We’re not going to get close to that. Kairen Williams at 11. But a guy like Tony Pard, who I just had in front of me, I believe, is making close to nine or he’s making 7.25. So that’s a couple million more. JK Dobbins is probably sitting back, Pard’s making this, I need to make more than that. So yeah, I agree with you. The only concern that I would have in giving Dobb as an extension right now is this could be the peak of his market. Like this is a guy that has never got through a full NFL season, has plenty of injuries. Like it feels like to a certain extent and obviously I want I wish no ill will on JK Dobbins. It’s probably the best player to talk to in that locker room. But you also have to be aware of the fact that you know an injury could pop up and and you know he is playing this well right now. What happens when the going gets tough? I just wonder if you do it now because it’s the peak of the market. But if it’s a friendly win-win type of deal, then I think you take a look. Yeah. But also, aren’t you just gambling either way? Because if you don’t extend the guy, he does stay healthy. He helps you run on a deep AFC playoff run. He helps you get to a Super Bowl, then you’re right, he’s going to be asking for James Cook and Kairen Williams type money. I think you could get him for half that if he just did it now. And people are going to say, “Well, he might get hurt.” Well, guess what? If he gets hurt, you’re not giving like Nick Bonito, Courtland Sutton, Zack Allen type money. We’re talking about onetenth of those type of contracts, right? It’s a lot of money in the real world. It’s not a lot of money in the NFL. Well, and as you’re talking, you know, it makes a lot of sense actually in theory to give JK the contract now because you could still pay that off while Bose’s on his rookie deal, right? And I think that’s the have them align. I like it. Right. Right. And so you get away with it of like, okay, maybe we overpay slightly for JK in this two-year window, but that means when that contract’s up, we’re going to have to pay Bo anyway. But I guess the other side of that coin is you got JK Dobbins off the street in the middle of training camp. Can you find another diamond in the rough like you did JK Dobbins? Dallas with Javvante Williams. We’ve seen a handful of these different guys that sign these one-year deals and pop off. Do the Broncos and Shawn Peyton think they could replicate that next off season? Yeah, I don’t know. I mean, Dobbins, all the numbers, RJ Harvey belief, I know, but all the numbers with Dobbins said he was elite when he was healthy. And Sean is famous or infamous for thinking he can keep guys healthy with his training staff better than anyone else in the NFL. And I don’t have any wood around me, but believe me, we are knocking on all the wood that JK Dobbins stays healthy. It’s like ceramic, maybe. Um, two other news and notes from today. Just quick reactions from you. RJ Harvey, NFL Rookie of the Week. We talked about his three touchdowns. And then Will Lutz, AFC Special Teams player of the month. Uh, actually a good rebound for Lutz cuz he did miss a huge kick against the Colts. He made some really big kicks during the course of October. Yeah. And Andrew Mason, I think he’s going to write the story for denverports.com. We we were able to chat with Will Lutz today in the locker room. Towards the end of the scrum, he asks, I forget how he worded it, but you know, prior to Will Lutz, Shawn Peyton had like a new kicker in New Orleans like every single year, right? And Will Lutz is like the first guy that stuck with Shawn Peyton. Like that is Shawn Peyton’s guy. Obviously traded for him here in Denver. And clearly that dynamic is working out really well because you saw it kind of go through like a turn style of kickers with the New Orleans Saints. And so good for Will Lutz, man. You mentioned, you know, the blunder there in the game against the Colts and he’s been really solid for this Broncos team moving forward. 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They went on a 29-2 run in the third quarter. Let’s watch that game all all annoyed right before half. Nuggets starters blow an 18-point lead. New Orleans gets it down to six. I’m like, really guys? Come on, it’s the Pelicans. What are we doing? And then they come out in the third quarter and they’re like, “Oh, yeah. 29-2. We got that in our bag.” uh starters did not have to play much in the fourth quarter as the Nuggets absolutely cruised to get to three and one could make a strong case they should be 4-0 but Steph Curry did Steph Curry things in that opener particularly down the stretch Anilo your thoughts on the the game last night and then kind of the the Nugget ceiling cuz you know I think in the last few years we’ve been like well they’re tired it’s been a grind to win a title yeah just win 50 games just get in the playoffs see what happens uh I’m not saying they’re gonna go pedal to the metal all here. But you could tell me this is a 55, 57, 58. Dare I even whisper it. 60 win basketball team. They look really good and really complete. Yeah. And Nicole Joic looks as good as ever. I mean, four games, four triple doubles. It’s like another night at the office for this guy. It’s it’s absolutely unbelievable. And Nuggets fans, please enjoy this moment because I I I was covering that team before Yoka. Actually, my first year covering the team was Yokic’s rookie season where he barely played and with the ascension started. But I mean, I remember just those dreadful Nuggets teams, ugly seasons, ugly games, and now it just feels like the expectation every single night is for them to win and win big as they did last night against New Orleans, 122 to 88. And I mean, you got to love what you’ve seen from the Nuggets so far this season. Cam Johnson dealing with a bit of an early season injury. He hasn’t looked quite as good as maybe some people thought he would off the rip, but I don’t have any questions about Cam Johnson, at least not yet. But I I I think you just love the dynamic that you’ve seen from the Nuggets in particular. or Cam Johnson aside, they’re new additions. Bruce Brown making an impact off the bench. Tim Hardway Jr. draining a three here or there. Jonas Valenunis truly looking like the answer for the Nuggets at the backup center position. Now, it is New Orleans. They did beat the Anthony Edwardless Minnesota Timberwolves, which is still a good win considering what Minnesota has been to them the last couple of seasons. Let’s see them do it against some quality teams here in the notsodistant future. Yeah. But the Nuggets have had that little bit of play to their level of the opponent the last couple of years. Yeah. Pelic last year. They lost to the Wizards twice. I remember, right? Like they there was so many games where the Nuggets just kind of slept walk through things. And I I think there’s a couple things in play here. One, I called it at the time people got mad, but I think it’s looking more true than ever. I think Michael Malone’s voice had grown stale in that locker room. I just do. Yeah. And David Adelman, I think, and I love coach Malone and he’s a champion and he always will be and I think someday he’ll come back to Denver and we’ll all give him a standing o ballerina and it’ll be great, but I think stale was a fair word for Malone. And then two, and Dante and I hit on this a little bit last night, Jamal Murray’s in shape. He’s skinny. He’s explosive. The combination of they made a change at head coach that appears to have been the right call then and the right call now, plus Murray playing like Murray, plus Tenzer and Wallace had a great A++ off season. It is the perfect storm for the Nuggets to win. I think 55 is kind of the low end of what they could win. I think they will win 55 to 60 games this year. And I agree with you and don’t take this the wrong way. Like I don’t really care how many games they win, Will. Like for me it’s about just get in the playoffs because I believe that and they’re going to get in the playoffs, right? But this was a big talking point that Jake and I went back and forth on on the Mile High Hoops podcast of I I I’ve seen the Nuggets win 50, you know, plus games in a season. I’ve seen them be the one seed, right? All I care about right now is a championship. And I think the secret formula, the secret sauce, and what needs to happen for the Nuggets to do that is develop a bit of a lead early in the standings so you don’t have to go all out the last two or three weeks of the season as we have seen the last few years. And make sure you’re healthy and have momentum going into the playoffs. So yes, I would love 55 wins. I would love 60 wins. To me, that’s all cream, though. The main vision is winning a championship for the team this year. And through the first four games, they look like a team that is primed and ready to do that. Jamal Murray a big part of that, the bench dynamic, a big part of that, and of course, Nicole Yogas doing Nola Yogic’s thing. So, really, outside of that funky loss to Golden State on opening night, you can’t complain about anything with the Nuggets outside of the fact that they’ve done it against, you know, three mediocre teams with Minnesota not having AE. All right, but hold on. I got to give you the same push back I give people who tell me that the ABS being the one seed doesn’t matter. Well, when the ABS won the cup, every series started at Ball Arena. When the Nuggets won the title, every series started at Ball Arena. You just said you don’t care about the one seed. I actually do. They had to play a game seven on the road last year that quickly went off the rails and fell apart. And I understand they were hurt and the roster wasn’t as good and all that, but I would have felt a lot more confident if that game seven was in Denver. And if you have to play Oklahoma City most likely in a game seven this year, feel a heck of a lot better about it if it was in Denver. I I don’t disagree with you, but I still think Denver loses that game last year, even if it is at Ball Arena. I I They just beat him in game six at Ball Arena the two nights before. Right. But I tend to think that Denver’s shortcomings in the playoffs last year were more about those injuries were more frankly about just how primed than ready Oklahoma City was than it was about homecourt advantage versus not. But they also blew games four and five. Like we we’ve been through this with a shell of a roster. I I I know, but like let’s not act like the Thunder just steamrolled through the Nuggets. There’s an alternate universe where Denver wins that series. Absolutely, unequivocally, 100%. It was the day the Rockies fired Bud Black. Oh yeah. And I thought that was bad juju that the Rockies are trying to hide by firing their manager in the fourth quarter of a Nuggets playoff game. And what happened? The Nuggets fell apart. I understand before you text me, I understand the two things were not connected. But it just felt very rocky of we’re going to try to hide this and then we’re all ticked off that the Nuggets are yay close to a 3-1 series lead and can’t get the job done. Yeah. But unlike the championship season and and I respect your opinion like when you talked about they were the one seed, they did have the home court and whatnot. Like I can lean on the fact that this team is battle tested with their core. And I’ve been on record saying I don’t think there’s a single team in the NBA that the Nuggets should be afraid of. Home, away, neutral sight, whatever it might be. So yeah, obviously I’m not saying I don’t want them to be the one seed. I don’t want them to have homecourt advantage. I just think that there’s other priorities that they should focus on as opposed to gassing out to get that one seat. Well, then let me ask you this because you mentioned the last couple weeks of the season and I tend to agree with you. That’s when the guys hit a little bit of wall. I mean, the joke is always that March and April basketball in the NBA is not very high quality. If you and the Thunder are tied with 10 games to go, feels like we may have different philosophies on it. You may say, you know what, put off the gas just a little bit. If OKC wants to go get the one seed, let him where I I kind of would take the approach of you do have a deeper roster this year. You have a a larger rotation that you can play. I mean, you can comfortably play nine 10 guys right now, at least in the regular season. We’ll have to see in the playoffs. Ah, it’d be really hard like if you promised me that both teams had I don’t know 50 and 25 records. So you got what seven, eight games left at that point to just not go for it and not just shove the chips all in. And I think that’s a different like if you’re within a game or two of each other for the one seed with 10 or 15 left to play. I think that obviously changes the the conversation a little bit. I I just think from where we start the season, yes, one seed homec court advantage throughout the playoffs is at the top of the priority list. I just don’t think it’s priority number one where it kind of felt that way in the championship. Well, load management’s been a big topic recently. Sounds like uh you’re a-ok okay with some loge management going on for the Nuggets. I wouldn’t say I’m not giving Jokic and Murray nights off necessarily, but I think like what you saw yesterday, right? Jokic only played what under 30 minutes in that game and obviously it’s against New Orleans, so you’re able to kind of move some things around just because of the quality of the opponent. And again, it’s it’s not as much of a load management thing as it is with Kawhi Leonard taking game after game off in the middle of the year. It’s more so like let’s not have to play Joic 40 plus minutes a game in late March to get ready for the playoffs because we need to get this seed or whatever. You should be able to take care of business early in the year, which is one of David Adelman’s big visions for this team this year is getting out to a hot start so they don’t have to gas themselves out at the end of the season. All right, that’s fair. We’ll we’ll have to see how it all shakes out, but I think this team is clearly their most dangerous team since 2023 and both and I am looking forward to watching them play every single night cuz when it was the same core, it’s like, well, it’s the same core. I’ve seen this. Do I really need to tune in to a Tuesday night against the Pelicans or Wednesday night, whatever last night was, I was locked into that basketball game. I think, you know, other than they’re playing opposite the Broncos, I think I’m going to be watching 75 to 80 Nuggets games in the regular season and last year it was more like 55 to 60. Um, they feel television dispute aside, it’s a very refreshing vibe around the team this year, right? because last year and even the year prior kind of felt like more of the same and just like the new additions to the team and just everything feels different about the Nuggets to a certain extent from the game that I’ve been to this year and obviously watching from afar and at practice. Excited to see where this season goes. Well, it does kind of help when the GM and the head coach really don’t like each other and the owner says, “You know what? I’m not going to fire one of you. I’m going to fire both of you.” What a disaster. I mean, you talk about just changing vibes up. You you fire what? Two of the top three decision makers in your organization. that will get the players attentions. 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But fill us in on you guys then went to the locker room and had uh really interesting interviews with both JK Dobbins and Dre Green Law as well. Yeah, I mean JK Dobbins talking about how he’d like to be a Bronco for life essentially. You know, you and I talked about a potential contract extension a little bit earlier on in the program as well, but first time we’ve also heard from Dre Greenaw. Well, we technically heard from him after the game against the Giants, but I don’t think the suspension had been made public at that point yet. So, the first post suspension we’ve heard from Dre Green Law and took full accountability, you know, talking about how I can’t put my teammates in that position. I got to be better this that, the other, but hungry and ready to take on the Houston Texans and our guy Andrew Mason. I think it was the last question of the scrum talked about like you ready to go like how do you feel and big smile on Dre Green’s face you know essentially saying he’s ready to get after it and play as much as he can on a bit of a snap count there in the first game against the Giants. So a big piece of the defense getting back and frankly had a good time. It’s hard to say getting back cuz I know he was suspended but it’s not like it’s an injury but you couple this with the fact that Certan’s not going to be out there and you’re going to need as many quality bodies on defense as you can get and Dre Green Law is certainly at the top of that list. Yeah, let’s talk about how many snaps he could play. But first, I want you to hear from Dre about the explanation he got from the NFL for the suspension. We know it was a controversial one. Uh what chased down an official and chewed him out? I think the league said verbally threatened. Uh you know, we see players and coaches chew out officials all the time. Yep. And they don’t get suspended. So, I don’t know what Dre said, uh but he clearly said something he shouldn’t have said. And here’s what Dre Green Law said about that suspension explanation. Uh, honestly, they didn’t they didn’t tell me. They just we show clips or whatever, but um you know, they gonna make their decision and all you can do is just do what they tell you. So, they show clips. Well, the clip we saw, the one that everyone saw is the viral one of to me it looked like the referee Brad Allen made contact with Justin Stern, sort of threw a shoulder into him and Dre didn’t like that. Everyone thought Dre was upset about the DPI on Riley Moss. I actually don’t think that was the case. The Broncos had just won the game. The DPI was not going to be the story of the game. It was frustrating, don’t get me wrong, but Denver still came back and won with a walk-off field goal. It would shock me if Dre Greenaw cussed the official out for a flag that happened right before the wild celebration in Empowerfield at Mile High. And then I think that was only 9 seconds, but I think Dre’s telling the truth there, Neilo. I don’t think the league really wants to get into the whole he said he said. Well, the ref said you said this. They’re just going to say, well, you can’t chase the guy down. You can’t chew him out. You’re still suspended. And remember, he appealed it and it got upheld, right? And I think that’s exactly it, man. NFL no fun league, you know, all that kind of stuff as well. And I think it was simply just a heat of the moment passion thing from Drake Green. I don’t think there was any malicious intent or, you know, looking for the referee to tell him his side of the story or whatever it might be. The Stern Nod, you know, as you talked about with the bumping of the shoulder, whatever. I I think it’s obviously an un You’re never going to win in that situation if you’re a player or a coach. Like, let’s just put it that way. So, you probably shouldn’t do it. Am I upset at Dre Green Law? No. Am I frustrated at the situation? Of course, because he’s a key player. Thankfully, the Broncos were able to get the win without him against Dallas. But, it’s just one of those things that if you’re a player or a coach in the heat of the moment, you just got to try to be a little bit smarter than that. Yeah. And you’re right, the league is always going to side with the official and with the referee because that’s just what the league has to do. It can never make the players bigger than the guys that are dictating the rules on the field. And yes, Dre Greenlaw is significantly more famous and significantly more rich than Brad Allen, but the NFL is never going to admit that. The NFL is never going to say, “Well, our players can treat our refs like this.” And again, I we’ll never get the audio. I I would just be fascinated to to know what he said in that 20 second altercation. I’m putting that in air quotes. That was so bad that the league said, “Yep, you got to sit on the sideline for that.” Because uh again, guys chew out refs all the time. I’m not saying it’s right. I’m not saying it’s wrong. But the punishment to me didn’t really fit the crime, if you will. Yeah. And I think it’s pure speculation, but I mean like what I I don’t think he said anything menacing towards him. And we don’t have They could have. They said verbally threatened, right? You could use like an old school, you know, jab like calling someone a clown, you know, or something like that and that would probably warrant a suspension as well. Like I just think it’s one of those I think it’s one of those things where you just don’t cross the line with the NFL refs. You just don’t do it. Yeah. But black and white. I agree with you. I goofy. I guarantee I could find a clip of Patrick Mahomes yelling at a ref. I don’t remember Patrick Mahomes ever getting suspended for yelling at a ref. He’s the golden child. He is the golden child. But how many times you think Tom Brady chewed out refs in his career? And I don’t even have to use guys that are that famous, right? It’s soft, Will. It’s very soft. I think everybody in the world is in agreement with that. But I think, you know, they won the game he wasn’t with, you know, playing with. He talked about after the game against the Giants how the altitude kind of whipped him into shape a little bit. So hopefully he used that extra week to get into shape and acclimate and get ready for the Texans and hopefully this is all just water under the bridge. Well, you mentioned his snap counts. He played 21 against the Giants. I know VJ Vance Joseph spoke a little bit today about, hey, they still got to get him back in game shape. H what do you want to see? 40 45 like what’s a what’s a healthy number for Dre Green Law on Sunday especially because he’s the nicest guy in the world and I always have to put that caveat in but Alex Singleton’s play has not been up to par this year. If it’s a lot of Greenlaw and Sternad I’d be fine with that. The problem is I think it’s going to be a lot of Singleton with Green Law and a lot of Singleton with Stern. I think those are your two best middle linebackers that should be on the field together. I’d like to see Dre Green Law double his snaps. Let’s call it 42. I think that’s fair and I think that range is probably between 35 and 40. We’ll see how the game plays out if it warrants more Dream Green law or not. But yeah, I think you want to see him close to double up. Well, that would be nice. Especially because this guy’s got to be chomping at the pit out there. He’s ready. I mean, was there an intensity when you guys spoke with him today? Like a common like, you know, tranquil he was in the moment, but you could tell like behind the eyes when you get out there on Sunday, man, he’s going to be ready to go. Well, and Dre Green Law is like one of the most intimidating athletes I’ve ever seen or spoken. I would not want to get hit by him. No, not at all. Not want to get hit by Dre Green Law. Well, hopefully he can play 40ish snaps and the Broncos can take down the Texans this weekend. Really interesting day between Marty Nius, uh, Dre Green Law, JK Dobbins. Another Big Nuggets win. A lot going on in Denver sports right now. Really fun time to be a fan. That’ll do it for us for Dante Anilo. I’m Will. It’s DST. [Music] Listen up, Denver. Brandon Stokeley needs your help. We need a contest or some kind of bet to where we can shave Cecil’s head. Exactly. Yes. It’s time for it to go. It’s time. Better keep an eye on the scissors, boys. Denver Sports 104.
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