Miami Dolphins Reportedly Want Mike McDaniel For Rebuild | How Can Stephen Ross Keep Him Around?
Hey, welcome on in guys. Tobin here with you and thanks for checking out the channel on this idol Sunday here. Your Miami Dolphins cannot hurt you on this Sunday because they hurt you on Thursday. Uh and then on Friday, the owner decided, you know what, ready to move on from Chris Greer, which was to me a little bit of a surprise. I just thought the guy was never going to leave. But here’s the thing that has stayed the same. Um, it has me a little bit worried, concerned, and I actually find it strange how many people seem to be okay with it. You know, I I was a little bit miffed by it because I I just had an innocuous thing that I tweeted out when it happened because a lot of people were starting to say, “Oh, Mike McDaniel’s going to finish out the year. Mike McDaniel.” Well, now we’re starting to get the other the more details as things come back. Well, you know, Mike McDaniel, he may he may be the guy that Steven Ross believes in. He may be the guy that they want. They they have faith in him. They’ve invested in him. And I I just I think what happens is maybe people are younger, people are they don’t remember and not everything is the not every situation is the same, but there is a pattern. And I I am I’m just a little concerned that he is getting set once again to go find himself some new talent evaluator to stick next to Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniel, of course, doesn’t want to lose his job. So, he’s going to go along for the ride and say, “Yeah, of course, baby. I’ll work with whatever. Bring me that Harvard guy from Philadelphia. Bring me Alonzo Heisman. Bring me whoever. bring me, you know, bring me Mike Greenberg from Tampa Bay. He’ll stick it out and, you know, that’s going to be their new dynamic duo. You know, Mike, he’s he’s got the coaching ability. But I don’t know, man. I I’m I’m I’m concerned about it. Ian Rapaort, he said sources say that the fourth year head coach, 30 and 30 during his tenure, is staying for the foreseeable future with hopes that he continues to coach through 2025 and beyond. And this has been the case for months. We’ve heard this um in through all of this. Mike Mc that Mike McDaniel, the coach did not or the owner did not want to fire him. Obviously, we got to a point where some change needed to be made and and I’m not here to say that Chris Greer got the raw end of the deal because certainly he has ridden this wave long enough and now you have uh this champ who’s going to get this opportunity to make some trades. There’s a lot of fodder out there about who they’re going to go and deal and where they’re going to go and deal. And you know, the pass rushers have obviously been in the the fold for a while. Jaylen Phillips, there’s talk that Vic Fangio is salivating over getting him to Philadelphia, which we’re going to love watching Jaylen Phillips uh go to Philadelphia, I’m sure, and just terrorize quarterbacks left and right on that defensive line. Um, but the, you know, Mike McDaniel might be a very nice man. In fact, I would I would venture to guess he is a very nice man. Seems very likable, I think personable, and and I think that a lot of those things are great. A lot of those things though are things that people said about Chris Greer as well. And while Mike McDaniel may be brilliant and creative and smart, dude, you know, went to Yale. I’m sure as hell that the guy um is is very very intelligent. There are some things here that as creative as he may be and and all of that that are concerning. You know, we’ve seen issues with his play calling, we’ve seen issues with him being able to commit to the run game. We’ve seen issues with him being able to have any type of success without Tua Tong of Aloa. We’ve seen even more issues of him being able to have success without Tua and or Tyreek Hill. And I say all this just to be like, are we sure that like this guy definitely has the goods to do this? Because this has been a team that has lacked discipline, toughness, and accountability under his watch. And th those things can’t be debated. the team has crumbled this year. What one of the things that has been awful about this year and I think is a biggest is the biggest indictment on the coach and somehow he skated on all of this because the quarterback’s been so awful and it’s been built up by a terrible general manager that you can, you know, kind of duck and cover on the blame and you could kind of survive all of this. But the things that are under his watch about how the team is running as an organization, how he leads, how he gets everybody on the same page. While yeah, the team maybe hasn’t quit on him per se, which is nice. They play hard. They don’t play disciplined. They’re not a tough football team. And I do wonder and and it’s mostly been a divided team because he’s mostly the offensive guy and his defensive guy whether it be Fangs Weaver or uh the dude who was here the first year the um what the hell was that guy’s name with the terrible defense in San Diego Ber um whoever it is like I don’t know like has he really shown an ability to run an organization from top to bottom? He has one really great accomplishment, which is like to a tongue of Aloa with a palatable running game and a and an offensive line that was definitely not even as shambles as this and the best wide receiver on the planet. Yeah, they put up some big numbers, but as games got tougher and you took on real competition, like none of these flaws have gone away. Like how many games has Mike McDaniel won that you were just like, man, he really he really got him there. like he got a team that nobody thought he should beat and he beat him. Like he doesn’t have a ton of those on his resume, you know? Maybe like the first couple of weeks where they’re riding high and they beat the Eag they beat the Ravens and the Bills like when he first took over when he probably had his most stacked team maybe. But how many recently? How many of the last couple years, the last three years when things were getting tough, when those questions were there, how many has he really been able to show? And I understand the argument of, hey, there’s not a lot of great candidates out there on this job. I think that’s probably maybe the best case for him to keep his job. If he’s a creative guy, he has a better talent evaluator, you know that he can scheme some things up, you know that he can make some some things uh some things happen. Okay, fine. But is it really the best recipe for success for a guy whose record continues to go down for his wins that he’s expected to get done? Continue to go down. the quarterback’s production continues to go down and that was his calling card. All of that stuff happens on top of star players have called him out, star players have stopped listening to him. There’s been accountability issues of people showing up on time, different rules for different for different folks on the team and an inconsist and and reportedly inconsistencies on how he handles those things. It only seems to be an issue when they lose, which doesn’t go very well in the eyes of the players. You’re going to stick another GM with that. And then what’s going to happen? Eventually, you’ll give him a couple of years and then the GM gets to fire him and then the GM get like you wouldn’t want to bring in a GM who can point to whoever that coach is and say that’s our guy. That’s the guy we should go with to run this organization. I don’t know. I I say this, I don’t know who that person is, but I don’t think that he’s done a job. Like I don’t as as bad as Chris Greer has been at his job and as bad as his quarterback has been, I don’t think that he’s done a good job either. You know, I don’t I don’t feel like Mike McDaniel has been has been shackled here and gets to skate free on all of this. And I just think that Stephen Ross has had a problem. There’s a really good article by Omar Kelly and he’s talked about this on on Game Day uncensored about, you know, Stephen Ross really really hates the hiring process and um and I do think that there is truth to that. Like he just never likes to be left on an island completely bare and unknown about where to go in all of this, right? And anytime he’s really tried to go get the established guy, unfortunately, it blows up in his face while wy coyote style. And I guess that leaves him a little skittish about leaving the covered bare, but trust me when I tell you this this is a time that I don’t I don’t think calls for having any familiar faces. You want keep Garfingle, keep Dan Marino around, you know, you know, and and try and go from there. But I don’t know. I just I don’t think it’s it’s a recipe for success at all. And then there’s this other report. Rabbit had a a really interesting dive on this and it really feels like Mike McDaniel has won the complete power struggle on all this because there’s talks in this article about he’s got the green light basically to bench Tua whenever they’re probably going to move on from Tua after this year. here. Like I know people are worried about that salary, but look, it has been done before and especially if they wanted to go in a direction where it was a complete nuke job for the next two years and then he gets to to keep it around and it’s just like, all right, so let me get this straight. This guy whose record is completely plummeted and then he gets to oversee another tank and get another chance to prove himself as a head coach. And I get it. He he came in in a weird situation. Okay. Team had a winning record. They made a monster trade for superstars. Didn’t have a lot of draft capital after that because either tampering or trades, but now he gets to go on the merrygo round of the cycle again. Like who? Okay. But you’ve already seen like he can’t seem to establish a winning culture. It’s it it has eluded him his time here. Like player friendly in some regards, nice with the media, quirky. Um I don’t know, man. I I I just I I don’t think that is the way to go on this. And this this is not to say Mike McDaniel won’t land on his feet somewhere and be a good offensive coordinator and, you know, maybe refurbish his place. I just don’t think that place is here. I think the damage is done. I think that too many people have had their hands in detonating this and to like just say, “Ah, Mike, you did what you could with Tua. Ah, Mike, you were sh you you you had to deal with Chris Greer.” It’s like, well, Chris Greer has said he’s mostly catering to what the coach wants. So, I don’t think that’s going anywhere and the type of players that he wants. He had this false sense that he could handle stars. He very clearly could not without them taking advantage of him. And all of a sudden, we’re going to act like, oh man, he can quarterback somebody who’s not to a tongue of who where is that proof? A couple of Teddy Bridgewwater games. He couldn’t do it with Skyler Thompson. He couldn’t do it with any of these guys at Snoop, Tyler Huntley, uh that’s the same person. Uh Tim Bole, these are all terrible picks. And then at on top of it, he’s like, “Oh, I’m going to pick Zach Wilson.” And he’s already demoted Zach Wilson at one point this year. So, like, how are you to trust what this guy can can do when it comes to like really not only not only developing and establishing and maintaining a winning culture, but now you want him to start from scraps with a young GM? Dude, I don’t know about that one, man. I I don’t know. I I something about that makes me like Joe Filin queasy, dude. It makes me a little bit squish to think that that that this organization is in his hands. You know what I mean? Um I I don’t know. I I don’t think that that is I I don’t think that that is the route you should go here, man. So, we’ll see what’s going to happen with these these next few days. You know, the the fodder that’s out there right now is they’re putting a lot of Jaylen Wadd stuff in the ether, which makes you seem like, hey, the Dolphins are like, hey, come at us, big boy. What do you got for us for Jaylen Wadd? You know, give us a one plus a two, a one, and a three. What do you What do you want to do to to get Jaylen Wadd into the fold here? It’s like, we’ll see what goes on there. Pass rushers are obviously going to be do, but if they really want to blow this thing to smitherreens, like just start over, do they have like another Laramie Tonsel in their in their in their mind? Do they have let’s trade Patrick Paul for for three first round picks? Is there is there a possibility that they go that route or is it just like hey you know he’s too good of a monster good tackles can play forever. You got to keep him. I I I think I’d probably just lean that way because you’re going to probably get enough picks and you can make some things happen. But this this um you know this this whole thing set up between whoever comes in as GM you look at it and you’re like all right who are the go-to guys on this team who are the building blocks right now it’s not Tua Jaylen W qualifies but you know it is a receiver and I think if you look at this team you’re probably like well it’s Patrick Paul and it’s Devon Achan And that’s probably the list right now. Chop Robinson hasn’t exactly blossomed this third year, this second year. Um, the other old guys are going to be gone. Mink Fitzpatrick, I can’t imagine wants to be here for guy tried to escape the last time out of a rebuild. You think he wants to be here? No. Zack Cer, I mean, Zack Cer is obviously had a very poor year. whatever the circumstances are. Um I think accountability wise they would probably like to keep a guy like him around just because he just is a pros pro. Good locker room presence. So unless your your socks are knocked off by him. But it I I just look best of luck to this Champ Kelly fella. All right. I I hope that, you know, he is able to to to haul in some some big assets or decent assets for what Miami’s got in the cupboard, but which he reported didn’t get to do when he was in and uh in in with the Raiders when he got this chance because it was after the deadline. So, it’s going to be interesting 72 hours for him for sure. But this this idea that we’re leaning towards keeping Mike around, I I I I don’t know. I I’m very uneasy about it. Very very uneasy about it. I get it. You keep him around for the rest of the year. Fine. I don’t love it, but fine. Because I think you got to send some type of a message. And to me right now, the message was the easiest thing to do. the guy who was worst at his job and has been here forever, you finally got rid of. And so maybe you think this is addition by subtraction. I’m not here to say that that can’t happen, but it is a little bit too familiar with the past half cleanings of the house. When you got to clean the house, you can’t leave one room dirty. You got to wipe that sucker clean completely. And I I it does not feel like the immediate aftermath of Greer’s parting is that they’re going to do
Tobin reacts to reports that suggest Mike McDaniel might be in for the long haul with the Miami Dolphins because Stephen Ross likes him and believes in him. Why?
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49 comments
JP is a bust no chance of him getting better once he leaves.. dude has no pass rush moves outside of speed that backup OT just slide him right out of plays
Mcdaniels is the tua of coaches. We all know he sucks, but theres the few that believe he's a genuis. Personally he's soft and uninspiring to listen to, stale plays, discipline issues, cant even compete with good teams. He has to go. Ross Keeping him and tua will show he doesn't give a shit about the fans
I don't want any more finesse đ with lil RBs WRs n OL not to mention a soft non physical Defense
It's hard to care a anymore
I fully believe that we will never be competent until Ross either sells the team or dies.
He has some strange fascination with the shiny new toy. I you aren't either a young inexperienced first time HC, or a first time GM then he isn't interested in hiring you.
Bring me someone who has ran a team well and then maybe, just maybe we will actually progress as a franchise.
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McDaniel is like Corky Ramano get outta here đ
Agreed.
Hairy Pothead is doing the longest walk the plank ever. Ross soft pedaling this firing is so Ross. No GM worth a half a đ© will ever sign as long as this bewildered dude remains with the team.
Ross, worst owner in sports
McDorkle must go!
Ross is a football idiot!
Im hoping its just to tank and we get a real coach when we are ready to win
You don't know what you have as a football team till you have consistent play at quarterback. We could bring back the same team next year and if they had consistent play at quarterback they'd have a better record and winning heals everything.
Why not? Mike is an offensive genius lol
Why not? 1 has been there for all of the bad times, the other showed up and things started to get better. The common strand is Grier. Let's pull what the Steelers did with Cowher. Give him a shot, if it fails then you know you didnt make a mistake when you fire him. Miami has this tendency to let the wrong coaches walk. Example Campbell and the D coordinator in KC. Let him see what he can do without greir lording over him
"Can he run an organization from top to bottom?" I am really confused as to what exactly people think a headcoach does. …
They need to sweep it clean. If Ross wants to keep McDaniel that hampers a new GM. Who the Head coach is should be the choice of the new GM.
You know once upon a time people talked about Cowher and Kyle Shanahan like that
Ross is STILL the problem. đ
The only way I would keep Mcdaniels is if Tua leaves regardless of the cap problem. We canât have both!
McDaniel wonât last long. He s going to lose the locker room soon and then the dolphins will have no choice to fire him.
Ross just doesn't get it is it useless cause!
McDaniel helped convince Ross to pay Tua. No way he should keep his job too while Tua gets the boot. There are plenty of coaches that can run the Shanahan system.
So what people need to ask themselves. If you want McDaniel gone then who are you going to hire?? until i hear a legit candidate then don't complain. Because all i hear is McDaniel needs to go, OK and get who??? who is it?
You Miami losers pretending UM didnât lose to SMU
So whatever happens we will be 2 and 15 for the next 2 years are you going to be happy watching them not me
To those who believe Mc dumbass isnât the problem, you must really be smoking some good stuff. Heâs the main culprit on the field because he calls the plays. Thusly he determines who gets the ball and when . His play calling is piss poor because heâs too stubborn to stick with running the ball. Granted the o-line isnât the best what with reps it gets better. This jackass is too stubborn to want the run game to work, and then play action off of it. Iâm done with him and Tua and Ross had better realize that!!!!
PS this team needs a leader of men to guide them into battle. We have none.
McDaniel and Tua have to go
Doesn't matter who is Gm and who is coach. Whoever they hire it will be the last available possible hire only because in typical Miami fashion it will be guys who are willing to be Tua's Qb whisperer. Just like we did with T hill ,Fiedler,Cutler etc etc This team is a total joke and anyone wasting money on tickets or even wasting their Sundays watching dolphins football on t v or whatever is just accepting and adding to the problem.
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If they keep McDaniel, I'm worried he'll stick with Tua.
We need a new QB! players are running wide open in Mikes offense that is already hampered by being designed for Tua. Itâs not Mikes fault that the QB canât execute. His play calling is only critiqued when it doesnât work. Itâs not working because TUA. Get rid of him
i understand trading in talent for assets, but they're gonna need some talent to actually play the games. rookie contractions def shouldn't be traded. and waddle. i'd keep any rookie from the last couple classes, and waddle.
Coaches donât run organizations Tobin
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And the Tua defenders continue to show there colors in another way now lol. I ainât tryina to hear anything from yall. Yall gave Tua a 6 year rope of excuses. Now youâre even bringing points about MMD not having a big win that you NEVER brought up about Tua lmao đ. Shut up sit back and let this man get a chance to fully run his offense with his QB of his choice. The owner has spoken and like everyone has been saying Tua was the biggest issue along with Grier. Now that they both are on the outs you want to drag MMD with them. Yes MMD has some things he needs to fix with this being his FIRST ever leadership at this level. But I rather see if we can get the right ppl in building to help fix that while keep this brilliant offensive mind in an offensive league.
Mike Mcdaniel is not a good coach. Our team is never ready for big games. Poor discipline. His record against winning teams is a joke. He is a Poor leader. He needs to go along with Tua.
most waddle would get is a 2nd TOPS
In my opinion they need to start with new coach also. And get rid of non-performers. Whomever they are.
I believe the performance of the Dolphins for the remainder of the schedule will be Mikeâs undoing. Theyâll be lucky if they win three games. They will endure several more blowout losses at home to the Bills, Bucs, Bengals and get smoked by the Steelers and Patriots. The Jets game will be cold & rainy. Their only real chance of winning is against the Saints.
Cue the âOh god noâ meme from The Office.
The ravens upsets I think were back to back seasons. Before this season his divisional record was pretty good.
Problem way before McDaniel was Grier. McDaniel doesnât dish the money out, he says I like him. Same with draft McDaniel might have a voice but not above the gm or owner. Not resigning players rookie deals, giving highest money in the nfl to certain positions only to extend those among them again and make them paid the most again for longerâŠ
If Flores didnât want tua but they still got tua doesnât that say something?
Bro he's no coach..waterboy at best
McDaniel has another contracted year that is already paid for. It's a position that the new GM doesn't have to deal with right now.
Still look at the player Chris bought in. Itâs hard to coach when the GM is bringing in a bunch of trash players. Yeah he mightâve slept on a few play calls but come on guys. You think itâs easy coaching under pressure.
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Jfc theres no player in the league who respects him. He has a lot of growing up to do