Thunder vs Pelicans Live Recap | Is This The End For Willie Green?
[Music] This program is brought to you by FanDuel, where we give sports fans the chance to every day. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What’s up? What’s up? What’s up? What’s up? What’s up? What’s up? What’s up? Welcome to the 500 episode of Propels Talk, where we do not send uh subliminal messages. Uh and we are nothing without y’all. And this is not this is not a subliminal message. If you’re reading this, I I swear to God, this right here, this is not a subliminal message. took away. Hey, man. The [ __ ] Pelicans suck, man. They they they they Hey, look. I I I got nothing positive to talk about. I’m supposed to be hosting the show. It’s the 500 episode. We supposed to be happy. Like, I I’m supposed to be I had to subject my daughter to that [ __ ] today. Not only did they [ __ ] up my th my Friday with trick-or-treating. Today, I had to subject my daughter to this mediocrity. and and and people will get on the internet and they’ll be like, “You’re going to criticize Gil. She keeps the team here. She keeps the team here. What about Gil?” Brother, I’m never caving for a billionaire who don’t go over the luxury tax. I I I ain’t doing it. I ain’t doing it. We Listen, bro. Listen. Listen. What’s part of it? The um the team ain’t doing it. Oh, no. I ain’t doing it. No. That’s what Again, we do not send subliminal messages here. This is not what we do here. But if you can read this, Ty, please save us from hell, brother. Please. What’s What’s up with the pensmanship here? What we got? I don’t have time for pensmanship when I’m angry. I don’t have time to [ __ ] write when I’m when I’m red from getting 30. You got You got 33 times this week. [ __ ] yo, three times. Did you know? Did you know that’s a record in the history of the NBA? No team has lost by 30 quicker more three times into the season quicker than the Pelicans. They did it in six games. The the last time was like nine. Look at the record you set. Look at the records you set. Hey man, hold up before we get too far from this. Shout out to John D. Shout out to Sunshine. Shout out to Taz. Shout out to AC Ambulance. Shout out to uh Scott Vignette where they fight for the win because the Pelicans ain’t got a [ __ ] worth of fight in them for a win. They ain’t got [ __ ] [ __ ] I tell you. Chris, what’s up, bro? How you doing? What’s up, man? Uh, look, bro. We, you know, happy happy 500, man. Not even the Pelicans. Not Not the Pelicans, not the Saints, not any, you know, LSU, no Louisiana team, you know, St. All football, like, no, no team could ruin could could ruin episode 500, man. You know what I mean? Look at Luke right here, dog. I mean, don’t pull the Panthers on us. Breaking news, Luke. People, they came back. They’re back after after the Panthers won today. They beat the Packers. Sorry, LA, but not sorry. Um, the Panthers came back. Don’t apologize. The um the uh the Panthers podcast, I don’t remember the name of it. You know what I mean? Because I don’t listen to uh Panthers anything, but you know. So, no, Luke, we ain’t going nowhere. But happy 500 to y’all, man. Happy 500 to the people in the chat. Happy 500. The Justin, the Ross, the Chaz, LA. Hey, hey, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. This [ __ ] right here is the lamest [ __ ] of all time. Your brother’s in Canada, bro. Go enjoy watching your man who nobody’s talking about him. I’m so sick of seeing this [ __ ] Like, get the [ __ ] out. Go. I’m sure there’s a locked on Raptors. Like, I don’t know what to tell you, man. Like, we we not talking about BI. Like I have nothing to say about BI. Congratulations on your passport. You all right? No, I’m not [ __ ] that [ __ ] is Stay on this side. Stay on the inside with that weak ass. It was uh You know what? You know what, Leo, you’re you’re completely right. Um and first off, uh before I get into what I want to talk about, what we all want to talk about. Uh thank y’all. Uh it’s it’s hard to do 500 episodes of anything, but especially on this [ __ ] team. 500 episodes on one of the worst NBA franchises to ever exist. A NBA franchise that’s won two playoff series in 20some years. An NBA franchise has had the same seats inside their stadium since the Bush administration. Like we’re talking about literally bottom of the barrel franchises and we’ve done 500. And some of you might say, “Yeah, these guys are [ __ ] losers. They don’t have a life.” Like, ah, like we enjoy this [ __ ] man. And like we want to thank y’all, everyone that supported the show, including the BI stands, the haters, all that stuff. Like we love that kind of stuff. Um so appreciate y’all um for supporting the show. Let me get back to one thing that really pissed me off today, Leo. So I said Gail Benson needs to sell it to you. Um and I stand by that considering that she doesn’t care about the team. Uh, a lot of these people and what we’ve known, Chris and Leo, uh, by doing this show and starting the show, whatever it was four or five years ago, um, people do care. I am shocked with how many Pelicans fans there actually are. We’re talking from Australia to to Louisiana to California, like all over, literally all over the world. But you have an owner that doesn’t care about you. That’s the reality of this situation. She cares about her money. She doesn’t care about she’s raising ticket prices. She don’t care about her renovations. She cares about the bottom line. Is she making money or not? And the reason why this show has been shunned from the building is because we are real. We have real opinions. We’re six dudes from the city unlike other folk. And so they have a problem with how loud we are. And someone today, Leo, tweeted me, he goes, “Well, you I said,”I don’t want I I want Gail Benson to sell the team. I don’t want them to move.” And they responded back with, “Be careful what you wish for.” Shut the [ __ ] up. And I thought that was one of the lamest [ __ ] things I’ve ever heard in my life because you’re telling me because you’re telling me I shouldn’t have an opinion about how poorly ran this organization is. that we should be okay, the paying customers should be okay with this [ __ ] And that’s the problem. For 20some years, you’ve had media members not, you know, be scared to say something because they can’t get invited to Christmas lunch and and all this other [ __ ] That’s not us. And that will never be us. And shout out to Five on 500 episodes. Five, what’s up, man? And that’s my problem is that yes, I am very thankful and grateful that this team’s in New Orleans, but that doesn’t mean I I can’t have an opinion. That doesn’t mean that we we should just be okay with this [ __ ] on the court and the way that the administr, you know, the way the front office is ran and the way the PR shuns people out. Like, no, we shouldn’t be okay with that. You should not be okay with that. You should have a voice. You should be able to say, “This is [ __ ] We deserve better. You’re raising ticket prices. You’re not doing renovations. You’re not, you know, you’re not fan first. You should have a problem with this. I got a major problem with this. I’m furious. And this is an episode where we should be celebrating. Win or lose. Win or lose, we should be celebrating. And this is the [ __ ] we got to deal with. Hey, Justin, I I just want to say we might just be losers, though. I I I I was think you said we not losers cuz you know, we you know, I think we might be losers, bro. I I’m saying if you if you in constant concert with losers that kind of makes you You know why we’re not losers? No, we’re not losers because we hold we have a standard and that and we’ve never let go of that standard. Now we might gotten kicked out the building. We might they tried to like you just you know Yeah. They might have tried to kick us out the building and intimidate us and you know talk [ __ ] and DM us and you know text us and you know all all the [ __ ] that you know the bots watching. Y’all know what I’m talking about. But I’m not a [ __ ] loser. You ain’t a loser. Chris ain’t a loser. Jay ain’t a loser. Chaz ain’t ain’t a loser. Ross ain’t a loser. Hey, they’re [ __ ] losers. Listen, I I’m I’m getting to the point where people are like the team’s only here because of Gail. Dog, if they gonna lose 137 to 106, get them the [ __ ] out of here. I I I’m I’m like I’m I’m I’m tired of having to like you’re literally holding me hostage to cheer for a loser. You’re you’re holding me hostage to cheer for a loser. And I’m supposed to be grateful. That’s my thing. We’re supposed to be grateful because the team is because she keeps the team in the city and she makes money and off of all of us. Like that like that’s the that’s insane to me. Insane. What’s up, f? Hey, man. Listen, Justin, man. Congratulations, dog. 500 episodes. Shout out to LA. Shout out to Ross, man. That’s That’s incredible, bro. Like, shout out to Steve. Shout out to Steve. Shout out to Steve. Shout out to Steve. Shout out to Elliot, you know. Elliot Cloff. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Elliot. Yeah. Elliot was on like original like original man that’s consistency at at its highest, man. Um much more than we have seen with the Pelicans. But to to cover this team or wanting to cover this team for that long, man, it’s it takes durability, it takes want to. It takes patience. Um, you should be proud, bro. You should be proud, bro, from from what from what you’ve built. Um, so start off with that. But be honest, man. I I had a great day drinking. Great day. Yeah. Um, got to my dog. You know when you 16 miles yesterday. Yeah, 60 miles yesterday. Um, I felt like I could have went 20 though to truth be totally. I felt smooth. Uh, it’s perfect weather for it. I’m gonna run it. Matter of fact, I’m gonna say it on Propel’s uh talk episode 500. I’m gonna run a Louisiana marathon in January. The whole thing 26 miles. Um, and I was drinking today. You know what? And I watch it as the Saints were getting their ass whooped. I was watching the Pelicans get their ass whooped on my phone in the bar and I didn’t even feel bad. I didn’t even like like I am waiting on the shoe to drop. Like when is the shoe going to finally drop somebody? Why are we waiting? Why are we wait That’s something to talk about. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like I thought like, “All right, at least he he made it through October. All right, it’s November. It’s a new month, new season. Just just do it already. Let Rock let let homie go off into the sunset.” Like, what? You going to see another one of these? Like Like you show no fight today. You show no improvement from the first game. What’s the point of watching it again? What’s the point? like no one’s showing up to watch this. No one’s like, “Let the man go. Let the man go uh be a pastor in a church. That’s what he wants to do, man. Let him go do it. There’s no need for that.” And even if like they make the coaching change, right? It’s not like the team’s going to like drastically improve. I don’t I wouldn’t expect that, right? But at least like I know some competency of basketball is being played. like some idea like we’re gonna try to switch something up and do something different than continues continue this process of horrid basketball process process like I just want I just want to watch good basketball bro that’s all that’s what I want to watch that’s it like winning doesn’t guar like them playing does not guarantee me a win but I just want to watch good basketball for once man on a consistent basis that’s That’s all. Like, give me a year of consistent good basketball. I’m not asking for wins. I just want to watch a good product, please. Leo, can I ask a question? Yeah, bro. You kind of hosting the show. I don’t know if you know that, but go ahead. So, Jared talked about a process. He said he said process and that was very well said five. Um, if we’re talking about process, so just gonna throw us out here. You trade away the Pacers pick. Okay. to get back in the first round. And then you package that up and did an unprotected first to trade up for Derrick Queen. Yeah. Which was, you know, looking at it like, you know, what the [ __ ] are we doing? So, I I’m watching the game today and Dererick Queen I know it says seven minutes, Leo. I know it says seven minutes played. Yeah. Tell me why Derrick Queen’s got a DMP. Tell me. Cuz cuz cuz Willie got in his [ __ ] head that he I I don’t know. See, that’s is this is the thing, bro. And I tweeted this. Willie going to get on the podium and he gonna say some nonsensical [ __ ] like, “Yeah, I’m really proud of the way he played today.” And I’m gonna throw my [ __ ] television because if bro your your f you you mortgaged your future right for the present technically like like cuz they cuz Fierce is playing right now. This is present. We we got to talk about that too. But dog how you don’t get the man game reps. You got to get him game reps. You want him to be ready for I don’t even like this [ __ ] don’t make sense. It don’t make sense. I can’t I can’t make a logical I don’t just I don’t [ __ ] know. I mean I I I’m really not trying to be funny. And Chris, I want to hear your thoughts on this, too. Like I’m not trying to be funny. It’s a legit question. Like, okay, does Derek like is Dererick Queen going to be flawed and and have rookie mistakes? Like, yeah, he is. But at the end of the day, you gave up your entire future really the next couple years for him and to not play him. And like look like I you know I went and rewatched the uh the game against the Clippers and he had some good moments and he had some bad moments like like what a rookie will have. But to DMP him the next night like you went on a 2520 run with him and Zion as your four and five and you don’t go back to that. You DMP him like Chris like there’s clearly a disconnect between front office and coaching staff or head coach. Well, this is what this is what we’re used to man. Um, you know, unfortunately, I feel like for a majority of the New Orleans having a professional basketball team, it’s always been a disconnect between the two. Um, and us having a conversation, you know, I mean, I can remember watching Markin not play and trying to figure out like, yo, this team needs needs a guard that can do anything. Please put him on the floor, you know? But Byron Scott couldn’t get out of his own way. Mar Scott eventually got fired nine games into the year which Willie Green could be approaching either matchy or best in that record. You know, um it’s, you know, it’s like Kavon Ludy coming back to the lineup doesn’t mean you automatically have to decide which big you’re not going to play. And it you can’t just point it at youth because Jeremiah Fears is starting and Jeremiah Fears is starting in a lineup that um he can sometimes make difficult and even sometimes stifles what he can do, what he likes to do. Chris Connor, again, shout out to him. Um because there’s no spacing on the floor and he’s a part of the non-spacing. So, he has to have the basketball ultimately to make something work. He hit his first couple threes tonight, but he’s not a shooter yet. Um, but he makes his share of mistakes, his process, and some things that you expect a Ricky to have to get to have to go through. It’s not there yet. Well, it’s the same with Derek Queen. So, to answer with the question that you asked, Justin, the reason it’s a DMP is because I don’t believe he played until the final seven minutes of the game. You know, um, I looked up some point in the fourth quarter, I believe he had zero minutes. So, um, you know, even if even I could see Justin, if you said, “Okay, I know what we invested to get Derek Queen. Mhm. But he’s not there yet. Well, at least have won a game or two. If if the guys in front of him were playing so much better and you were and you were successful right now, you were even 500. All right, I get it. We’ll revisit this in January or February. That’s not the case. Eve’s Missy hasn’t been great. You haven’t played Carlo Cavon Looney just came back. Your small lineups have been have been inconsistent. Derek Queen has actually he’s had some bright spots. He’s he’s been bright spots in competitive games. The Clippers game that you mentioned, he had a run a run that was when he was on the floor. Spurs game, he there was a run where he was on the floor, guarded Wimby very well, had a really good game, right? But you like it can’t be one guy comes back. So this this this young guy has to sit on a team right now that’s going nowhere and it’s not like there’s a bunch of options that he looks up in in front of him saying, “Well, I’m not playing in front of him.” Like he he can’t steal minutes away from Eevee missi. He can’t steal minutes away from Kavon Looney. Like first game that that’s my thing, Chris. It’s like yo if this team was four and two. All right. Like we can you’re 0 and six. In three of the games you’ve lost by 30. Not 15, not 10. You’ve lost by 30. Impressive. So what is like J like I’m like you’re a process guy. Like the [ __ ] the process here? There’s none. You know what’s wild? This is a team that swept you like six months ago. You should have this game should have been circled. Like this is the team that that swept you out of the first round and you did nothing. You just laid down. You did not have your team ready. They were not prepared. You know, you’re on a 13 game losing streak now. 13 dating back dating back to last year. We haven’t won a game like we didn’t win a summer league game, a preseason. Well, we won in Australia, but we haven’t won in uh NBA America. Haven’t won in America in [ __ ] weeks, months. Months. It’s It’s insane. And uh Joe on the phones. Um if you would have met me in my past life, you probably would know. Um But dog, like that’s nuts, right? That’s that’s nuts to think about. Like you can’t get a win versus an NBA team. Like you don’t know, you’re not Hey, bro. Where? What? What are we doing here? Why are we continuously Oh, no. No, Joe. No, no, no. Not those. Not those, Joe. Not those, Joe. No, no, no, no. Uh why are we continuously going through this this this thought of things are going to just will change by doing the same thing. That’s that goes back to the the insanity part like this is insane. This is nuts. This is stupid. This is a stupid process. We have a stupid We have stupid people running the team. So, bro, happy 500, y’all. Man, man, happy little Wayne. Um, yo, like go ahead. No, I I I was just going to say like, you know, like we’ve been getting reports, as I’m sure people on social media have, about, you know, the Willie Green possibly being let go after the OKC game. And my thing was like the whole time like this organization is so stupid because what is one more game like what does that do? No, we no we can’t fire him tonight. Like we gotta wait till we got to wait till he get home. Buy that [ __ ] a ticket. Buy him a ticket and let him pack his bag and get the [ __ ] on to whoever he getting the [ __ ] to because I do not understand what does Oh no, we got to wait till mid November. What? What? What are you going to learn from like what are you learning from this? Go ahead. the opportunity, Leo, to win every game. I mean, for those for those that don’t, News flash, pal. You don’t have draft capital next year. I was just You don’t So, like you you’re punting you’re almost punting each game. You continue to let him roll. Like, you know, the Hornets aren’t aren’t the greatest aren’t the greatest team like who you’re going to see in a in a couple of days back in New Orleans. But I mean, at least they won a game. They just beat the hell out of Utah tonight without LaMelo Ball. Like you you’re going to th you’re going to you can’t afford what you want to wait till it gets to 0 and 12, 0 and N. Like look, OKC is a great team. They’re champions. They they built a great program. They built a great process. I I’m gonna ask you guys an honest question. Who had more talent on the floor tonight, Oklahoma City or New Orleans? more talent. Um, no JDub and no Dor. No, Chad. Oh my god. Chad didn’t even play. And you lost by 30. Wow. You lost by 30 when those guys played. You didn’t You weren’t losing games with similar parts the Pelicans have right now by 30. You lost by 30 to SGA and the guys and Hardenstein. Yeah. SCA and the boys. No, not like no, you know, like I I respect Kase and Wallace, you know what I mean? Like, you know what I’m saying? I respect the uh uh Aaron Wiggins, you know, is it, you know, they they got some guy, you lost to SGA and the guys, it wasn’t close, bro. Oh, it was over the first quarter, so turn it, bro. They had eight players in double figures. Listen, bro. OKC has some really nice things, man. They have good clean parks. They have really good steak restaurants. Shout out to Mahogany. They have this spot called like Bricktown where everything’s made out of brick and it’s clean and the feet the food’s decent. Great wings, good service. And they have a really good basketball team. Yeah, that’s some slept on gyms out there for Yeah, man. I know. You know, Leo Leo the Nomad. Um, does he know the area code though? That’s a real It doesn’t even really matter to be honest, Justin. Doesn’t It doesn’t matter. But what we do know is good basketball and OKC has it and it doesn’t matter who plays in their jerseys. Um tal like this this thing about talent like we we keep going back to it cuz we always say like, “Oh, just accumulate the talent and you know things will work out.” No, that’s not true. That’s not true. That’s a lie. It’s a myth. Like the other part is like you got to teach basketball. You have to teach a strategy. You have to like there’s no foolproof team. Like OKC can be beat, but you have to be able to outthink them just like any other NBA team. They do something well, but you have to take away what they do well and do the opposite. Like it’s physics. Every force has an equal and opposite reaction. Like, you can do it. You have to figure it out. No one’s thinking. This [ __ ] is pissing me off. Like, what? Where are the thinkers? Where are the dudes? Where are the movies? Where’s the shakers? Like, what the [ __ ] are we doing? I’m tired of watching bad basketball, dog. Tired. Where we going with this? What? Where are the people that like basketball to a point where it pisses you off to see bad basketball, dog? Like, if you don’t if you don’t like ba like, stop stop watching this. Stop watching me. Stop watching the pod because we like we like really good basketball. We like basketball. We do. And this [ __ ] here is not great. No one’s learning anything. Me as a fan, I’m not learning anything. My kids aren’t learning anything watching this. They just think daddy’s uh high on pills. It’s bad for me. Watching the Pelicans does nothing good for me. Damn. Nothing. Five. You know the worst part about it? You can’t even go and watch Willie Green postgame cuz it’s not even the right one to [ __ ] up. You You can’t even It’s such a Bush organization. I Yeah, I tried to watch a Willie Green press today. I got I got I got a rerun of the Clippers one. Yeah, it’s 20 piece. We got 20 piece. Oh, shout out. We got some We got some super chats. Congrat Congratulations on 500 episodes. However, Willie Green needs to be fired. I’m hoping the Pelicans ownership isn’t waiting to see how many people attend the home game to consider if they’re going to fire Willie Green. Dino, I appreciate your super chat because it leads to this next comment. And back to basically what Leo is saying. Willie Green’s getting booed next game. No, he’s not because his spineless organization took him out of the start like announcing him as head coach because they don’t want fans to boo him. So, if Leo sees him in the grocery store, the car dealership or what are you doing, Leo? He better not buy no more no veggies around me. I’mma buy ketchup. I wish it would touch that ketchup, [ __ ] I wish it would. Mustard mayo. Ah, boo the [ __ ] out. You you you get the [ __ ] out of here. Go go go to the dar. Will chill. $10 super chat. Appreciate you. Congrats on Am I hosting? I’m hosting this one. You just you’re hosting. Uh Will Chill $10 super chat. Appreciate it. Congrats on the 500. This is the Gale fail team. Willie was in the Saints war room and 14 combined. Um uh for all the other super chats, I appreciate y’all. We’re get to all of them um at the end of the show. Uh I do want to talk about this. Chris, I’ll start with you. Um it’s very obvious Jordan P despises Willie Green. I mean, he’s he’s shooting threes and literally staring. He did it again today. He’s staring at Willie Green again. Um whether you think it’s it’s it’s the right move, it’s not the right move. Um, what are your thoughts on a new player six games in already despising the head coach? And and that’s funny because we want to talk about Jeremiah Fears Jordan Pool thing. You’re starting a 19-year-old rookie over Jordan P. Do you think it’s the right move and do you think it’s a fair to um because I like what Jeremiah Fear is doing, but do you think it’s fair to implement Jeremiah in the uh in the starting lineup? Fair. I I don’t look at fair as a real thing in business. What up, Chad? Whoa. Um, yeah. I I don’t I don’t really There’s a There’s a bunch of [ __ ] that’s unfair or is this fair in the business part of it, right? So, I will focus on that. Like, pulls a professional. He’s had a he’s he he’s been a he’s been a part of the other side of things that someone else could could constitute as unfair for him or that that in his favor. So, um but in regards to what you asked in reference to him, you know, I I won’t say he’s mocking Willie, but but but staring at Willie as he anytime he has a good play. Um it’s a few things, right? It ju it just shows like it it tells you number one, he he’s not the only one. He’s not the only one because if there was like if there was leadership on the team and you actually had respect for your coach, somebody would pull Jordan to the side and be like, “Yo, all right, man. Look, I know this is [ __ ] up right now, but we can’t we can’t be doing that right now. We got to like we got to play the long game with this one. No, because there’s a bunch of other guys that’s sick and tired and frustrated with Willie as well. So, you know, and they may not be staring at Willie. They may be cussing Willie out for all we know. I mean, I saw I saw I saw Zion shake his head at a at a at a Willie substitution late in the Clippers game in his own way. Um, you know, tongue all out and [ __ ] Crazy. Um, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He well he do this thing now, bro. To where I mean I’m not g I’m not gonna visually show. You don’t have to explain your time, bro. You don’t got to explain. Yeah. Y’all know what I’m talking about. Um, but go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. Like, oh, BG. Oh, thank the Lord. I want to thank Coach Harbaugh. [ __ ] love you, man. Love the [ __ ] out of you, man. Oh, man. Five Money. But show five Money. But yeah, man. He’s not u that’s just I think it just shows the where the locker room is in totality with Willie and you got to think Jordan just got there bro he just got there like already already you seeing this imagine what some of these other guys man that’s been on this team for four or five years have been wanting to do or they have done you know Jordan’s a veteran in this league I mean you know he he it ain’t like he played for like a laundry list of great of you know great coaches necessarily or or or coaches that come from places they haven’t, you know, that um don’t have their their share of criticisms with with Young Tyler. Look at Steve Kerr and and Kaminga in company, you know. So, um it’s just sad, bro. But I think it just shows the state of where the team is right now. Uh you for for a veteran who you talked about so much of having good leadership to being that pissed off really is just it’s now it’s the most consistent thing the Pelicans have right now. It’s Jordan Pool at some point making a shot and looking over to Willie Star. Yo, uh, if I can interject this, please go ahead. I I was told by several people that, uh, Jordan P Jordan Pool gave Willie a good talking to a few games ago. And this is why this is why you see the situation the way it is. like, you know, man, it it’s just one of those things where they did themselves a disservice because you still can’t fully evaluate the team as long as this guy is here. You just can’t evaluate it because it’s so much petty [ __ ] going on. Again, you got the screenshot of Eve that comes out next game, Eve’s bench. DeAndre Jordan hasn’t played since then, right? You got you got uh Jordan Pool telling Willie Green, “Bitch, you guessed it.” Or whatever. I don’t know what he told him. Don’t quote me, but he he certain he certainly gave him a piece of his mind. And uh next thing you know, Will and Jordan Pool not like just coming off the bench. He’s deep off the bench. He’s like the third guy, dude. I mean, he’s like totally Yeah. Yeah. So, it’s like you at a point now where it’s like, look, y’all y’all doing this on purpose. If you’re Willie Green, you’re clearly doing this on purpose. And it’s Well, what’s up, Trey? What up, everybody in chat? It’s like at what point if you’re I don’t even want to say ownership, but if you’re Joe, you’re just like, “No, you don’t understand. This can’t go on.” Like, this this can’t go on. because I I wanted to show y’all something. Uh I was trying I was trying to load these these images, you know. I I got to come prepared with with a little bit of uh a little bit of visual evidence because no one would just believe me and take my word for you got to see this [ __ ] right? this there was a point in the game I don’t remember when it was but there was a point in the game where it was Jeremiah Fez Herb and Zion all operating on the left side and I was just like what the [ __ ] kind of bumper car [ __ ] is this look look at this bro just like what Wait, there’s more. There’s there’s more. Okay, so there’s this here. Jesus, bro. So this how See, I can respect Willy’s mind if he was going to say, “All right, I’m the only [ __ ] you know, going the refrigerator in this house. You to the bench, Sadique. You starting now.” And like if you was just going to run it like that, but not you doing Jeremiah your fears a disservice because you throwing him in the lines then he ain’t got nothing to do with this but you know egos get involved. You don’t know what enemies he making just just by being there because of some [ __ ] ass [ __ ] going on. What? Bro, how do you You’re You’re cutting off your nose to spite your face and like look at this. Like, yeah. You know what, Chad? You know what’s weird is that you would think someone in Willy’s situation would be trying to coach for his life right now. And I guess he is, but he’s doing it by making the worst possible decisions you could you could make. like this isn’t you know he’s he’s given a bad meaning for like desperation you know it’s like you know because yeah like just because you desperate dog like it’s just it’s certain lines you shouldn’t cross out of desperation it just shouldn’t being so desperate that you start DeAndre Jordan and you clearly clearly that’s that it wasn’t going anywhere cuz like like Chad said he hasn’t played since it’s just being being so desperate that you’re throwing Jeremiah that you’re taking Jordan Pool out of start starting lineup four games in like he’s the problem and even if that’s not what you saying that’s saying and Jordan Pool gonna be like if I was Jordan I’d be like you like do you see what I walked into like you saying all this is me because I I got a bunch of evidence that it’s you or that it’s others as an organization it can’t be me so you know it’s just it’s it’s I I know what’s going on with Willie, but he doesn’t appear to really understand what it means to be trying to throw everything you have left before you lose your job. Maybe, you know, maybe [ __ ] maybe at this point he okay with it. He not losing his job. He might be still quitting. No, I just want to say this. You know, if let’s just imagine that like this is like the most known secret that we could we could all know that Willie Green is potentially getting fired, right? And maybe Willie Green knows this. Like everybody’s aware that this is like the end. Even if that was true, like if you’re in Willie Green’s predicament, you still would be coaching to get the next job, right? This doesn’t look like that. You’re doing everything like like a child would. You’re just going to ruin it all because you don’t like how it’s going. you you’re coaching with your emotion, but that’s that’s how he’s coached, right? That’s how you lose. But that’s how he initial like the remember the first season like we got to play harder. Like it’s all emotionbased. But that’s what happens when your strategy is emotion because your emotions will change. M if you had a foundation and like, yo, we’re going to play like this all the time. We’re going to move like this. We’re going to move the ball. We’re going to do this all the time. It wouldn’t matter how like cuz your emotions Yeah. they fluctuate, bro. We’re people. That happens. But he’s moving like a very emotional person. And those decisions are, you know, detrimental to this team. And you you move up. My bad, Justin. I was gonna say you you move off emotion when you don’t have a plan. You you you you have to counter you have to counter um playing on to some sort of like emotional uh aspect with your team because there’s no foundation. You don’t have a plan. There’s no plays being made. You you could look at what Chaz presented in the chat. I mean in a group um I mean on the show like you could just see the space. You could see you could see it in the lineups. You can see it in the minutes allocations. There is no there is Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Moving like chef. You’re moving like a $2 chef. That’s what you’re doing. You’re moving. You’re moving like you work on chef. Don’t throw chef name in there. No, no, not not not Chef Danny. I’m saying Chef Highway. You moving like you work on Chef Highway 247. We never close because because you just dog like son and but my point is this to counteract what y’all are saying is because he’s not getting fired son. He is not getting fired. So So then Leo or like what’s bro like like this is the next discussion is will willie Green be fired tomorrow? No. I’m nervous that uh that Leo is right. No, I’m nervous. Chaz, Chris, I don’t know, man. I’ve been hearing I’ve been just like I just been hearing too much behind the scenes. Like I just heard something recently that make me think like, oh, I I don’t know. Maybe now it’s looking like I don’t know. But at the same time, I feel like too many people knew about it. Like once too many people tell me about like tell me about some [ __ ] I’m like, nah, it’s too much smoke, no fire there. So, uh, I I would put it at I’m still going to put it at 50/50, but I think the decisions already been made, Chris. I think he’s getting fired. I think I think it’s a lot of national press on tomorrow to tomorrow, Tuesday. The national press is out to, as far as I’m concerned, he’s not coaching the Charlotte game. And only reason I say that is because I think what’s coming out now is the reaction to people being upset that the news is out. So, it’s this it’s this it’s this politics [ __ ] I keep I keep telling y’all to me every time this [ __ ] happens I feel like it’s another House of Cards episode, dog, because I feel like this there it’s so much like maneuvering and manipulation and [ __ ] being thrown out there. It’s like, okay, we got to swerve now. You know what I mean? It can’t be too um it can’t be too obvious that this was going to happen. Everyone knows this. Okay, we need to let it lad a little bit. We put this out here for a little bit and on Monday evening, we’re firing him. You know what I mean? Like I I I can’t I don’t think that the things are going around by accident. And this is before you knew that they were going to be 100% 0 and6. It was before that you knew that they were going to lose another game by 30 points. There’s no way in hell to me that a team that has no draft capital and are not playing for their head coach can’t couldn’t play for their head coach if they tried have now bench players who used to be starters staring them down on the on the sideline like you calling me [ __ ] that’s what’s happening here you can’t go for that if you jo if you anybody like okay clearly really nobody got any respect for the man in charge of here. We got to do something now cuz we don’t have no We don’t have no choice about liability now. We don’t know. We might have a free spree situation growing up cuz the more you start losing the more this should get worse and worse because the talent the talent on this team no matter what should not be 0 and6. This isn’t this isn’t a roster. This isn’t a 0 and6 roster. It’s a team that’s been coached partially with some bad fits or some questionable fits to being 0 and6. He’s gone Monday, Tuesday before Charlotte. They did uh they Yeah. Well, they did update they finally updated the right postgame presser. Oh, did they? Did they? They did. They did. Bush league cactus ball ass organization, man. Grape grapefruit league. Hey, I’m grapefruit. Hey, listen. Hey, yesterday I had a conversation. Yeah. free. It’s the AL. That’s the AL’s free training, right? That’s pretty impressive. Thank you, man. Thank you. Been around a few times. What’s the other league? It’s Grapefruit and it’s [ __ ] I forgot that. Sorry. Go ahead. I don’t remember. I ain’t going to lie. I listen. I had a conversation with my man yesterday. Who is For all intents and purposes, let’s let’s uh my my partner is Zion Chef. I I told him I wasn’t gonna have this conversation on the show, but I feel like due to what Chris said about the tanner disparity of what OKC had versus what the Pelicans had on the floor, I be starting to I mean, y’all correct me if I’m wrong. I It could be a Willie Green thing. I’m just looking like Zion don’t affect the game enough. It It like bro, we 0 and five going 0 and five 0 and six going into the game. 0 and six now. You shooting 14 shots, bro. like you you you don’t he don’t affect to me like he don’t play enough winning there’s no winning basketball being played and I don’t I don’t know if I’m a winner. Well, where the shots come from though? Like [ __ ] make them. Make them. Right. Right. No. And and I feel you know but but but we have these conversations and because Zion won’t shoot anything that’s beyond seven feet or five feet. You got to hope he get a foul call or you hope he get a layup or or he’s going to sink the defense in to make a pass, drive and kick. There’s no other alternative for him to get these shots cuz none of them are easy. That’s no 100%. What I saw in the last two games just specifically was All right, this this is so bad though. All right. So, I think Zion went two for three in the first. He had three shots in the first half. Start the game two for I think it was two for two, right? Missed the got blocked on his last shot. This is in the first half. And this is this going to tie into Jeremiah Fizz a little bit. Second half is when he get all the shots, right? But to me, and now this don’t really got nothing to do with Jeremiah Fez. This got more to do with why Herb and Jose are still playing. And I understand why Herb is playing. But when I like these are just the I remember [ __ ] told you told me one time he said that’s just the time I got caught cheating. You know I didn’t cheated tons of times. You just caught me. Right. These are the times I caught the defense like just ignoring her or like all right whatever dog you you go ahead do your thing whatever right it’s happening all game so and it this is where it trickles down it really [ __ ] up everybody starting Jeremiah Ferris with Herb [ __ ] up everybody you got to choose one Herb is the obvious person that needs to come out of the starting lineup because you neutralizing Trey because it’s like all this one shooter out here. I’ll just stick to him. I’m just not going to leave him ever. And with Zion, you’re like, “All right, we going to put I’m not worried about fans from Arc. Not worried about me. I’m not worried about her. We just gonna put three people on Zion and focus on everybody else.” Now, to me, I’m like, eh, you kind of need to make it enough though. You know what I’m saying? 20 If you If you got 27, 29 points would have helped. 29 points would have helped. I I don’t care if it’s fair or not. Whatever. 29 would have helped you. Like, you know what I’m saying? It would have it would have got it would have got the job done. But at the same time, I just don’t know how you supposed to overcome this, dog. Like, it and it really makes me think that see I don’t like like Chris referenced House of Call. So much [ __ ] political. And when you start looking at who’s friends with who, that’s when it start unraveling. That’s why I kind of was like I’ve always said this. I was like once you got rid of Griff and Bi, you gotta get rid of Willie Green because that’s like a tandem. That’s a group of [ __ ] That’s a that’s a gang, right? That’s a gang. You got to get rid of all of them at the same time. You can’t just get rid of one or two of them. You got to get rid of all of them at the same time. And I think that’s kind of what you left with. Like, you know, I didn’t text a couple pictures before, but it’s just like, dog, this is bad. And for me, the one I put in the group chat, it was George P. When was that screenshot? When was that? I think this was this might have been in the second quarter after Herb had hit two threes already. So like, well, it’s telling. That’s the reason why I asked that. So, he’s already hit a couple. Um, and they’re still playing off of him like that. Look like Herb I think Herb, you know, hit a couple and like I think in the last couple games he’s shooting pretty well. But to your point, they’re just waiting. Zion’s got no driving lanes. None. But my thing is like last game every time they tried to attack the middle they got stripped every time. No matter who attacked got stripped because it’s like bro there’s one there’s Trey Murphy the only threat only threat. And I just don’t have to leave him. If if I’m not opposed to defense I’mma just stay here with him. Y’all just get it how you live. So it it to me the petty [ __ ] is doing so much damage to everyone. And with Jeremiah FZ, I’ll close with this. I think Jeremiah F is balling a lot for the position he’s put in. But I also think you sacrificing the first half of the first quarter when you start him because at this stage in his career, he just wants to score. It’s all he really knows right now. He’s trying to figure it out. like you starting him with and you starting him with a bunch of other nine shooters as well. He just trying to figure it out. [ __ ] destroying everything they can at the rim tonight. They like, “All right, we going we going to figure it out.” So to me, you being so petty and so political that you just you really pretty much punting these last two, three games because you just want to be a hoe. Like that’s really just what it is. So, and like y’all bring up really good points, but like it goes back to, okay, so defensively I think you’re the worst defensive team in the league, which is really great strong suit, right? So, I think you’re the worst defensive team. So, if you’re already giving up 130 a night, why won’t you just try to score 135 every night and just live with the results and they don’t know how to do that? But that’s why it goes back to this like how is Derek Queen not playing? Like even like Micah Pe like Peavey can at least like shoot the ball. like you got to try something else and they like I don’t Bro, I don’t know. I like I feel like I’m talking like I try something else. It’s four It’s It’s four years. Try something else. But I I think the [ __ ] up thing is it’s hard to really say what needs to be done without you throwing a [ __ ] under the bus or it seems like you’re throwing them under the bus when that’s not the case. It just like dog you gota I ain’t even know some of them [ __ ] shooting tonight for uh OKC. I watch a lot of basketball, but it’s like you gotta have people on the court who can like who can score in some real capacity that they’ll generate some fear. Like they be like, “All right, I gotta let me at least pay attention to what’s going on here.” Whereas it just like these are turnovers. These shots are turnovers, bro. Like it just is what it is, dog. So, from what y’all are telling me, I seriously this is a serious question. Y’all think Willie Green’s losing on purpose? No, I don’t think he’s smart enough to lose on purpose. No, he trying. You think he’s trying to win basketball game? I’m serious. You think he’s really trying to win? I don’t think he’s trying to win neither. I think he just I think he just being spiteful. I think he don’t care what happens. So that’s the that that’s a problem. That that’s a problem, Chaz. Like that’s a problem. Like that’s a problem. You you gotta have a guy that cares about winning like to lead your team. Is it though? When is he cared about winning though? Yeah. Like when when is he cared about something outside of his outside of himself? Like because Go ahead. My bad. No, I’m just like I’m just thinking about like so rookie year rookie Trey Trey Murphy’s rookie year. I think about that rookie year and I’m like there was a point in time where Trey Murphy’s like ability didn’t coincide with like wins, right? Because that’s why you you play Garrett Temple. That’s why you played Tony Still, right? Like these are because his growth didn’t correlate to what you thought would get you a win. But now it’s like those decisions bite you in the ass. They come back and haunt you because his in his mindset like if it doesn’t benefit me, it doesn’t m like it it won’t make sense. Damn. That’s my issue because it’s all about him. It’s not about the team because bitching Jordan Pool does not it’s that’s a Willie Green decision that doesn’t that hasn’t netted you a win. You know, is this the second? No, it’s the third game. Wait, this is the third game in a row he was benched, right? And they lost two out of three by 30. Is that correct? Yes. Third game. So, they benched him. They benched him three games in a row and in two out of three games they’ve lost by 30. Yeah. And the second was the second game DeAndre Jordan started or was the first game DeAndre Jordan started? The second game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The second. Wait, no. Cuz it was No, he started he started against Jokic. It was his second active game. The first game was when they benched pool for Jordan to start. And Eve was Eve was healthy. Correct. Yeah. Yes. Eves was healthy and DeAndre came in. But that, you know, that’s also like, you know, he’s, you know, you’re looking at a stubborn a stubborn man like y’all, you know, and he he he’s defiant like like you you can’t be defiant and um incapable. you you you can’t be stubborn and um lacking certain talents like you Willie Willie isn’t gifted enough. The best way I can say this, he’s not he’s not gifted enough to be to be as stubborn as he is. He should be welcoming all of the information and all of the advances that people bring to him because I think part of this it’s a philosophy crisis. Willie all he knows Bob you mentioned this earlier about effort and that that it’s almost like a disease to where you know you hear people multiple people in this organization. I even heard Joe Joe Dumour talk about it about how Okay. Well, what’s this team’s identity gonna be? Okay. Well, we we’re gonna have depth and we’re gonna play hard. Okay. Well, everybody’s supposed to play hard. That’s not it. Larry NZ would say the same thing. Nobody’s gonna want to Nobody’s gonna want to play with, you know, nobody’s going to want to. Well, once you play the Pelicans, you know, you’re going to know you’ve been in a fight. Yeah. Like, like that’s not that’s not enough. But, but that’s that’s what Willie Willy’s basketball philosophy deals about. like it’s a that if if we play harder than than our opponents, we’ll win. Well, well, no. So, therefore, what happens? He wants to put defensive minded, tougher, stronger like like, okay, he’s thinking into the Nuggets game. Okay, well, we need to get enough stops. We’ll get our offense in transition because I don’t run plays anyway. So, we’ll we’ll get our we’ll get our we’ll get our points on the run because DeAndre is going to help us get stops. That’s what he’s thinking versus thinking nobody’s stopping Joic. And if anyone is, it’s not a 36 year old former teammate, 37 year old former teammate versus the opposite of that is Ees. No matter if I start DeAndre or Ees, Jokic is going to drop a triple double. He always does against us. I got a better chance of trying to outrun this [ __ ] and getting up and down the floor than I do trying to stop him with someone who’s immobile at this point. He doesn’t think that way. He’s not forward thinking unless he likes you. Jeremiah Fears isn’t Willie Green’s type of type of basketball player. He’s just strong mentally. You know what I’m saying? Like that that’s something that Woody likes. The same reason he liked Naji. The same way he likes Jose. The difference with with Jeremiah is that Jeremiah is young and he’s super [ __ ] talented and he’s strong mentally. That that’s per you like you can’t deny that. But you’re putting him in a situation where where where he can’t thrive in he can’t thrive in that starting lineup because he needs the [ __ ] basketball. So like I just I don’t get it, man. You know, you know, I think that whenever he does get fired, it’s going to be really good for him because somebody has to has to let him know that this stubborn element is going to continue to give him problems though because you’re not going to be able to out defend. Not in this league. You’re not you’re not holding team. The only team that’s getting held to 90 points back-to-back Knights of the Pelicans. [Music] You’re not holding those you you not holding other teams to 90 points, Willie. You not shutting down teams to under 100 points. You’re not doing it. This league does not is not about that anymore. So Justin, yes, to your point, you need to go out and out score and outshoot. But Willie does Willy’s philosophy won’t allow him to think that way because in his mind it’s all about playing defense, getting stops that you won’t get and get in transition. They can’t even run threeon- ones correctly. Threeon twos. They bobble those and fumble those all the time. Boy, that’s the one thing I I never want to see again is uh the Pelicans with a threeon one fast break. It just it’s just terrible. The thing that’s [ __ ] me up too is like J F wasn’t playing bad with the second unit. He was actually playing really well. You just wanna be a hoe. Like that that’s really is what it all about. You you supposed to be, you know what I’m saying, a chump about the [ __ ] and you want a [ __ ] fool. That that that’s really what it all is. Because again, I don’t know what I don’t know what Jordan said to him, but he it certainly got the point across. I I say that whatever it say land at home because again the most obvious obvious obvious substitution you making right here is Herb you know I love you my brother you got to come sit down that that’s it’s it’s as simple as that. It’s the most obvious because all right today for example so we in zone we got to shut down Shay. He he’s obviously the MVP. You got to shut down Shay. So I’m watching us miss rotations miss rotations. mis rotations do all day just watching all day then I thought the light went off in my head saying wait a minute nobody’s shutting down Shay anyway right but I’m paying this dude $20 million to to for [ __ ] like this go get him you by yourself just go get him if Shay beat me that’s what’s gonna happen but you ain’t let Shay beat you let the Wigginses beat you and all the Wallace and Ricky Bobby Ronnie and Mike you let all these [ __ ] beat you right I’m like No, all you had to do is like, yo, I’m not helping you. You on your own. Go. If you going to be out here and start Whoa, what up, prospect? If you out here on your if you start, you got them. You go get them, right? But you not you don’t even want to do that. You don’t even trust him to do that. So, it look like when you had Dyson, you getting your the [ __ ] your teeth kicked in by OKC in the playoffs. You don’t even play Dyson. So, obviously, you don’t trust him to go defend either. But he will play Kyra and Tony Snell now. Okay. You will play Kyra. You will play Tony Snell. You will play their Jacks. You know what I’m saying? Like like I’m just I’m just so perplexed like bro these your guys. You trust these guys. You starting them. That’s how much you trust them. They getting big bread. They I just want them to do one thing. If they gonna be out there, they got one job. Just go do that. But [ __ ] you don’t trust. Clean, you don’t even trust and do that by how you designing the defense. It’s like what you not only is this team don’t have the IQ to run this, but let’s just say they did. Let’s say they were. They not even committed to running it. They’re like, “Oh, who gives a [ __ ] They like they don’t even care to rotate his strength. His strength is defense, Chaz. His strength is defense.” Okay. In six games that crazy. in six games. Gave up 128, 120, 122, 122, 126, 137. So, this is the 500th episode. We’re about an hour in. Leo, do you think we need to open the phone lines? You want to open the phone lines? Let them Let him vent, bro. Let him vent. All right, we’ll open up the phone. Um, we are going to take a break here. Not necessarily a break, but um we have some favorite moments of the show. Clipped up over six and a half minutes of it. Thank you. Um, so we’re going to play that. Y’all smash the like button and then in the next 10 minutes or so, we’ll open up the phone lines and we want to hear from y’all. Yeah, I can’t I can’t really enlarge it. But you know what? I just loaded up. Good lord. I got to stop it. Yo, I got to stop this. Yo. Oh. Oh. [Music] Yo. Oh [ __ ] T, brother, you man. Oh my goodness. Wow. Damn, bro. Man, Ocean Tide. That’s love, man. That’s That’s Yo, T. That is big love, bro. Jesus Christ. That’s big love. Get the Get the Get the plate around on that side. That is big love for Justin. Justin just chest. Y’all got to send them the whole supply. We got Yeah, we got to give time. We got to get just just just the whole just three boxes of red. Just just send it. You like you like milk bars. I got two little boxes. Here are appreciate appreciate all the super chats. Appreciate all the support. So here are some of our favorite. Here are some of our favorite moments of the Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Before Before we do that, before we do that, I just I just really I I really have to do this. Sorry, Leo. Um, I [ __ ] with you, dog. I I really do. I do. You You said something that I just didn’t think we could continue on. Um, okay. Okay. What did he say? What’ I say? I have to say it. You said I have to enlarge it. Oh, I can’t. What? I said that. You said that initially. So, sorry, bro. Brother, this this goes out to you. I I didn’t I didn’t want the $500 to overlap that cuz we we’re a serious podcast standards here. You know what I mean? We have standards and you know, shout out to Ocean. Don’t Don’t Willy Green me, bro. Hold me accountable. 500 episodes. Here are some of our favorite moments. Yeah, I can’t I can’t really enlarge it, but you know, I knew I heard it. [Applause] I’mma kick open the door to all the office and I’mma chop that [ __ ] desk in half. What the I using that. [Laughter] I’mma kick open the door office and I’m going chop that [ __ ] desk in half. [Applause] Yo, that’s funny. My wife and then you go Cancun for spring break. All right. Uh, what’s crazy is your performance before the game, but you know, go ahead. That’s fine. I want to thank the Lord. I want to thank Coach Harbaugh. [ __ ] love you, man. crack. He’s on the pipe. Yo, check this out. He’s on the pipe. I don’t give a baker’s [ __ ] whether it’s the NBA or the goddamn [ __ ] Korean League. Do you want to win basketball games or do you not want to win basketball games? We all dumbass. Like, yeah, you know, we look at the guys on our team. We got a one time allaro reserve in Brandon Ingram and no one’s going to outwork him. If anyone’s going to tell you you can’t make the club in the tub, it’s going to be Young Jones. There’s a lot of There’s a lot of guys Griff is a slimy ass freak. I’m just like I’m saying when to give it up, right? When to get it back. When to pass it. When to pause that was crazy. When to uh you know what I’m saying? You take a T. You talking about Hold up. That was crazy. All right. All right. All right. I was like I like what you say. What you say? Yeah, that was Yeah, that was that was crazy. That was That was crazy. That was We were We a commercial break. We Yeah, brother. [Music] It’s like my daddy always said, a fiend going to be a fiend. Can’t change fiends. I guess basketball’s a narcotic and some of y’all got a bad bag of it. Sometimes drugs make you look smart in spurts. other times. Well, listen, we can’t all be good-looking. Pray for good health. Good. Y’all think y’all think that was Willy’s idea? It got to be. Oh, every every kiss begin with K ass Willie cap. Only Willie and Griff capable of coy shame are shaming Matt Ryan. That’s [ __ ] We’re not shame. This Listen, this the problem. Why is our camera off? I know you’re still What a shame. What’s a shame? What’s a shame is that we had to just spend 15 minutes having this conversation because I don’t have anything against Matt Ron. You dumb [ __ ] Talk about that. He led the team in rebounds. He led the team. What the [ __ ] is going on down here? What happened? He paused. He paused it. He pauses. Yes, he can. Absolutely. A super chat. You can do that all you want. If you give us a super chat, you can do that all you want. Appreciate it. H I ain’t call name, brother. That’s That’s Can I answer this real quick? No. [Laughter] Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. No, no, no, no, no, no. Hold on. Hold on. All right. Now, anyway, um two could play at that game. Um I know. And stop. You know what people stop telling me Zion didn’t play a lot of games. I [ __ ] know that. Like I hate that no that mean a strawberry fest too. Damn. I always like strawberries. Damn. What do you know? What is uh you got Seattle? Uh Seattle? Nah. Now off the top of my head I don’t know Seattle. Chicago. Chicago got a couple different ones. 713. No that’s No. 7. It’s 7 773, right, Chris? 773. Baltimore. Yeah, I know. Baltimore. Uh, I think that’s 61. Name be more. No. Yeah, you’re right. You’re right. You’re right. It’s 410 and 443. All right. You failed the test. That’s okay. It was impressive. It was That was But it was impressive. I shouldn’t I shouldn’t like I go cities, but that’s not Yeah, that’s not me. That’s That’s it. Okay. And if you’re telling me that you think Kevin Looney K if you think Mr. Looney, Kyle Looney, you know, whatever. Carl, you know, you know, with Kendrick Looney, whatever. If you think he’d have made a difference tonight, then then I’m just gonna I’ll get off the show, man. I’ll get off. I’ll just Whatever, man. Yeah. Kell, whatever. Whatever else you got, you know, Ross, my my only rebuttal five, please. Yeah. My only rebuttal to that is I don’t know how we will get LeBron. I don’t know how we’ll get Luke. I don’t need LeBron. I don’t need LeBron. I need a better coach. I need a better coach. I need a coach that can better better use those players. But that’s what I’m saying. Like we we don’t have like what players be good under Willie Green. What players? Like I don’t know. I I I’ve yet to I’ve yet to find it. So we gota before we can just say the players aren’t good enough, we got You’re muted, Justin. He’s He’s still talking. Okay. 500 shows and I know we missed some I’m sure we missed some moments. So, uh, appreciate everyone that’s inter rocked with us. Appreciate the super chats. So, um, let’s just what I’ll do here is before we get into anything, super chats for comments. I think we all need to thank Lala. LA is probably 1000. Appreciate you. One that keeps the show together. Um, she does everything from graphics to thumbnails to titles to the layouts which none of us know how to [ __ ] do. So, uh, Lala, you are the absolute MVP of this show and we really do appreciate you. So, shout out to you, Lala. Speak LA, speak. Speak. Can we get her? Can we should we get her on stage? You think she’ll LA is not going to talk? 500 episodes. Trying to go crazy. Crazy. Cory not even here. Damn. I got to talk now. You got to talk now, bro. I’m sorry. You hear us? He might be here. So, I ain’t seen him. You want to come on the private show? L pop up. Co pop up like the Undertaker. A lot. Uh Chris, you got to say something about the Packers. Say something about Jordan Love. Chris, boy, I don’t know what I thought you said. I thought you said I thought you said package. I ain’t going to lie. Yeah, I’m like, got to know when to give it up and when to get it back. Yo, yo, my I ain’t going to lie, y’all. My my phone blowing up right now, boy. And I don’t know. A lot of people saying he at the crossroads. I I don’t know. I don’t know. Something about to drop, Chaz, or you think it’s I don’t know if it’s about to drop, but you know, some good news dropped about somebody and you know what, Chaz, that’s not cool to say, bro. But [ __ ] it. We all got to die somewhere. But some good news just dropped about one of the Pelican former players. Shout out to him. Um, Karma is real. Thanks for Willie Green. It’s all I’mma say. But but I did hear about uh my phone. My phone dinging a little bit. I I don’t know. I don’t know, bro. I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t know. It’s too much smoke, dog. That That’s why I just can’t believe it. Like, cuz out of all the [ __ ] we’ve heard over the years, have has it ever been this much like smoke? The last time the last time we had we had this amount of smoke, CJ McCullum became a pelican. One 100 [ __ ] percent. It was the last [ __ ] time. We was hearing about CJ two days before they made that that was the worst kept secret ever. Oh yeah, that one was pretty painful. No, but I meant more so like in this administration they kind of like close to the vest. Now it’s kind of like No, I’m talking about it like everybody. [ __ ] don’t even like yo man, I’m a fan of How was it going? It was yo yo yo yo yo yo my brother. like it like it it is I don’t know I don’t know boy this [ __ ] up. Uh let’s go to the super chats. The line is live so if y’all want to speak your mind I’ll give you about a minute and a minute and a half to speak whatever y’all want to talk about. Ask question of the panel. Um Ezekiel appreciate you bro. My bad. Sorry Chaz go. You can bring it up for it was Ross kind. Yeah Ross miss Ross missing 500’s unacceptable. That’s kind of crazy. Uh, appreciate the $5. I don’t give a bakers. [ __ ] Um, what’s that from? Leo movie. Can you can you tell me? Yeah. Wedding crashers. Uh, Ezekiel, that’s me. Ask me anything else for wedding crashes though. You motorboat son of a old sailor. You where is she? She’s on the house. Hey. Hey. Hey. That’s a funny. Never mind. Go ahead. Montage. Wow. Fire Bill trades for picks. Happy 500 brothers. Brothers, sell it to Don’t say it. Just say it again. Say it again. Say it again. 500 brothers. Justin turned to Chad Hanks just now. Why you rolling cars, bro? Why you Justin start speaking Jamaican thought? What up, my guy? Austin Tyler for 18. Appreciate your support. Happy 500. Congratulations. 500 more. Let’s go. Awesome. Appreciate you. John Rar, new member. Appreciate you. What’s up? Welcome. Welcome home. As you say, Chris Connor with a $2 super chat. People who fear the team will move are spineless thoughts. Appreciate Justin. Justin, can can we can we pull Ocean T’s comment comment back up, man? Like that’s that’s like I I think for the chat, Justin. Yeah, man. Do you know the acronym for thoughts? M do I know the accuracy? That’s culturally inappropriate. Like you’re talking about what does it stand for? Yeah. Yeah. That hoe over there. Is that right? You know, you know, Jerry, come on. It’s the second time now. Okay. It’s the second time now. Just don’t play with me. Don’t play with him. I thought it was I thought the question was come from Chris to be honest. Justin two chains in that movie. Two chains braces. Ocean tide. Uh $500 super chat. Man, we can’t thank you enough. Uh, once again, congrats on 500, guys. Was hoping the whole crew would be on, but Ross, LA, etc., all included. Tuning in to y’all has helped me through so many tough and great times. Pels and beyond. I had to show the love back. Here’s to 500 more shows and 500 more ranch. Cheers, y’all. Ocean, appreciate you, bro. Make sure you DM me or Chaz, whatever, and so we could uh mail an address um send you a care pack. So, appreciate all the super chat, bro. Um, and all the support hats, bro. Like, I’m not I’m not keeping them. One of these one of these old Pel’s hats. I mean, I don’t know why I thought you said you like cats. [Music] Like cats, bro. Like what? About to put a feline in the mail. People 60 with the $20 super chat. Congratulations. 500 episodes. However, Willie Green needs to be fired. I’m hoping the Pelicans ownership isn’t waiting to see how many people attend the home game to consider if they’re going to fire Willie Green. I wonder how many people will show up on Tuesday. It’s Tuesday, right? Yeah. Got to protest. Tuesday against the Hornets. There you go. Make your voice heard, man. Will Chelton super chat. Congrats on the 500. This is the Gale fail. Sell the team. Willie was in the Saints war room. 1 and4 combined. 504 boy. One of the one of the ghost chat. Appreciate you. Will chill. Tony Snell. Tony Stell insert Frank from UNO. Um I have a question for y’all. Will Chill. Appreciate the super chat. appreciate always all the support. Whoever wants to go first, what’s your favorite Willie Green moment if you if you had to pick from one one Willie Green moment that that just sets you off? Mine is to keep a little money in my pocket. Oh, that that to me that’s the one he probably said that was after Zion. Was that for the Zion? Yeah, that was he want pick up a tech and I mean he must going to a pity game later that night or something. This [ __ ] like this the the audacity to say that keep hey might have been killing once look once the cops get a load of this tape once the cops get a load of this tape it’s going down it’s going down boy it’s going down um really said that dog J see yours I’m like mine’s definitely Ky Lewis month straight DMP’s playing game and he was first off the bench. I I’ll never for He finished five minutes. I’ll never forget that game. That’s when Josh Richardson I think hit Giddy in the balls, something like that. Oh yeah, he just randomly just hit him like square in the balls and technical foul and like ruined the whole game. So that was just also that was just also like what the [ __ ] Uh Jared, go ahead. I was going um favorite Willie Green moment. Favorite Willie Green moment is when he had his people call you to tell you about me. [Music] Yeah. When he could have just told me to my face, [ __ ] right there. Justin, that was that was one. I would have felt that you had a different Willy Green moment in mind. Yeah, me too. Me too. Me too. Really? Yeah. Cuz I thought you might have one. Yeah. You know, I I actually really spent time thinking about it. There’s so many that you forget. Um there was one it was um the Kyro one was obviously the one that stood out to me. The that was one. Obviously Tony Snell is another one with the trade. He’s had so many postgame [ __ ] ups like I don’t have to really sit down and think about it. I thought the Ky one was insane. The Ky one was insane. Which one? Oh, he he benched was the first he was the six man off the bench. He had played for a month and a half. Yeah. In a playing game. A must-win playing game. The first n it wasn’t it’s not real hitters but uh and another another one was when he told when he told us that Trey Murphy we don’t run plays with Trey Murphy he got to get his out of the flow of the offense. Yes sir. That was a crazy one. That was you know you know arguably your best shooter. Um that was a good one. We don’t I asked him about you know just backside uh ball movement or that was it. That was it. You asked You asked, “Do you He was hitting the little close to home with that one.” Yeah. Yeah. He tried to try to set him up. Talk about off movement or something. What do you What do you mean? Yeah. He was like, “No, we don’t talk about that.” What is that? Yeah. Um [Laughter] got baptized. Uh Chris, man, bro, you know what? I was think about this the other day. Um, so I mean I’m gonna stay in the present. My favorite Willie Green moment is DeAndre Jordan starting a week after dropping his kids off uh uh for school every day and just training like starting in a in a game against Jokic. and we’ll probably never see him again. Like, but um I’ll say this though, when when we get to episode 1 a thousand like and the Pelicans have fired three more coaches, we no matter what, the genesis of all this [ __ ] Willie Green was the coach. We’ll have to remember it. The genesis of all is genesis of spaces, genesis of of this show, the genesis of of of of all the individual shows that we’ve done. Like no matter what, we’re going to remember that this [ __ ] was the coach. Like it it was his first year. Like that that was when everything changed and this show with all the different members kind of all formed. So I don’t like no matter what I always remember that because you know decades from now I’m hoping I’m not still thinking about him starting DeAndre Jordan or [ __ ] Tony Snail or Kyra Lewis but I still remember Byron Scott not playing Marcus Jordan. So you know maybe the [ __ ] will stay. I there was that moment Chaz of the picture you always brought up when Monty Williams is wiping white tears. You know what? That that’s the thing I was just thinking about, bro. It’s like I swear. Look, put that in that chat. I know. I know. I joke I know I joke a lot, bro. I really didn’t even see it. I really You just put it I literally just put that little we sink cuz I swear to God and Chris was talking that just I in my mind I was just like I just knew I wish I could have done something. Feel like I could have could have done more. Once I saw this for the listening audience, this is this is this is Monty Williams after he been slapping asses and dapping people hands, right, in the height in the height of CO wiping Willie Green’s tears away with his open palm, right? And Willie Green actually tilted his head so he can get like an angle to wipe it down like a ski slope, right? the most imasculine [ __ ] you could ever ever witness. Right. I just knew it was over. I I said nobody ever gonna respect this man. Like if after this something your wife doing in the car like after your partner died or something you you right. Yeah. I’m fine. Like you get in the car and you cry on the way home. After I saw this, I knew it was over dog. Like all jokes aside, I I just knew it was over. I know the respect would never be commanded. What do you say to someone after that? What like you what do you say to someone after that? And this was the first round. You didn’t lose in the Western Conference Finals. You lost in the first round. Jordan didn’t push you down and hit a [ __ ] a mid-range game winner. This is They don’t even got like a song like a theme song for the first round. And you wet [ __ ] white your face, man. Man, it was it was over right there though. It was the last the last elite game of Chris Paul we we will ever see. Oh yeah. 14 14 15 He was miss Leo man. It’s what Chad said it’s it’s man it’s so it’s so many great moments. I was I’m not gonna call him great. Let’s call him low lightss. It’s so many Willie Green lowlights because he’s never been he’s never been high because he’s only won 49 games. Um, so he’s been high. Yeah. No, no. Maybe on that communion. Um, do you think he do drugs? No. I think that’s his problem. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Good job. I think uh I think that Devonte the Devonte Graham story, him going to Dvonte Graham’s house having a having a a precursor conversation. Then he went at night. He went at night. He went at night and you you know the crazy thing I was thinking about that when he b Jordan Pool the first game I’m like so you so you made him a priority like you went to his house and then like oh my god Jordan Pool just like nah man [ __ ] it I don’t I don’t like I don’t like I don’t like how you dribble little you think he brought pizza or like wine like like what he bring what he bring out like Wait cuz cuz he didn’t show up empty-handed. Pause. Like what he did collection he he brought a collection of Christian Bible stories like youth like minister [ __ ] like he he brought like some some wine some cheese little like the little crackers that that tell how good the cheese is. Yeah, he brought her lunch He brought us some lunchables. You know you know you know how you open the door St. James [ __ ] cheese. You know how a [ __ ] just show up at your house and you open the door and kind of close it behind you like yo what you doing here? In my mind, I can just imagine Devonte opening the door like, “Yo, it’s 1:00 a.m. like you think he you would think he texted him first, right? You not will he pull up in a Pelicans a Pelicus? He pull up in a Pelicans issue bathrobe like that. Bro, all right. All right. See, I don’t want to throw Devonte under the bus. That’s why it’s That’s why. But look, I’m I’m tell you, Jordan Pool probably came to practice the next day and looked at his name. It was like, “Hey, what the [ __ ] They don’t even work around here. Oh, this is serious.” Okay. Oh my goodness. Bro, that’s going back. I keep going back to this, bro. We had podcasts across the whole summit and we dog Justin we had conversation Chris you and I had conversations about this five chance the N the the national media said 30 [ __ ] games and I’m looking at the roster bro and I’m like ain’t no way they like ain’t no [ __ ] way bro they was right I’m never caping for this team again I swear to God like I’m ne I’m never putting my [ __ ] like like I’m not put nah bro like was right, bro. And then they make they got us just looking stupid cuz like cuz we believe in them. Yeah, that’s why they love them. They have 76 more games to [ __ ] go. 76. I didn’t even Bro, I’m not lying. I watched 10 minutes of the game today. 10 minutes. Game six, bro. Season the real and lost. You know what? I still I still believe that was a good one. I still believe it because you know why I still believe? Because some of even if for you to steal a game or two, you just got to be semi competent. Like, oh, I shouldn’t do that. Like that some of the things are that [ __ ] simple. And it’s just like, bro, what you can’t do that? That that’s that’s what make it look like you’re doing something weird on purpose. Because now with the national media starting to circle, they kind of like nah nah may maybe it’s Willie. May maybe maybe it was Willie. May maybe that’s what maybe that’s what it is. Like and I don’t know man Willie I don’t know personally I you know everything I heard about him is that you know he he got a lot of chump ways but some pe people seem to like him and I think that’s why people stall him out in public so much. Whereas with me, yeah, you know my philosophy. Everything go wrong on a plane, the captain folk. Everything. I don’t give a [ __ ] what happened. Everything go wrong on a plane. The captain folk. So if I’m looking at Willie, I’m like, well damn dog, you couldn’t steal a win here. You couldn’t steal a win there. One and five is a lot different on six even at this stage cuz a lot of teams starting out the gate slow. But it’s like, bro, it just looked like this is this is your fault. Like, it just looked like a lot 80% of this is your fault. Like, that’s just how it looks. The other 20% free throws, rebounding, Trey being abysmal offensively and defensively. Herb just I don’t know what the [ __ ] is going on there. And Jordan pulled to the bench for some bizarre reason. Like, I it just looked weird. The Jordan P is weird. The Jordan Pool thing is so weird. That should be a much bigger story like Nashville is because nobody watched the Pelicans. That’s why it’s not a story. He’s he’s he’s making 30 mill this year, right? Yeah. Something like that. Benching. But y’all I mean but y’all know like this this this organization likes people that they can control. We know that better than anybody else. And Willie is for better for worse, he’s easily controllable. like he’s gonna say close to what you want him to say. Uh like he don’t care how much money he make. I think right now he’s being paid on ass don’t like he don’t care about how much money he don’t he don’t he’s one of the lowest paid lowest paid coaches in basketball. They put out a secret a secret extension a secret extension to a well I’m sorry his extension got leaked. That means we’re not we’re not proud of you. That’s something you do to a side piece. Respect. Allegedly. Okay. Allegedly. Like you don’t Wait till we get off this show. I got I got something to tell y’all. Go ahead. Like so I mean he like that’s just he he’s easily controllable. Obviously. He says all the right things behind closed doors. Obviously. Why he can’t say in front of a camera then? Why he can’t say the right things in front of a [ __ ] camera? I’m confused. ganization might think it’s the they might think he’s saying the right things. He I mean, you know, he don’t get thrown out of games. He he he’s allegedly a good a good Christian man. You know, even your technicals get thrown out the game. Company man, that motherfucker’s terrible though. Like he’s he’s one of the worst cook uh Black Preacher Man one. Appreciate he’s worst show I’ve ever seen. One of the worst cook I’ve ever seen. He he the the decision was made by Joe, but what about Gail? You know what this Yo, this is a good comment. This a good creature, man. Because that’s the issue. Gail likes Willie. I I don’t think Joe cares. I don’t think Joe cares for Willie, but I do think he cares about making money and being in this position that Gail that just they just gave to him. So, he doesn’t have to fire Willie and his job is safe. I think I think Joe Cass, but I Oh, Leo, go ahead. Go ahead. No, you good. I was just saying that’s [ __ ] but go ahead. Oh, yeah. I I think Joe C, but I think because Joe like, well, damn. When everybody go, no matter what, it’s going to be me. I’m the black guy here. Everyone’s going to blame me. Like, that’s just what it is. It’s like cuz everybody look at Willie Green like, “Oh, he’s old meek infantile [ __ ] We ain’t worried about him.” And Gail, oh, this widow. Oh, she doing the best she can. And you know what I’m saying? for you. We’ve been not liking your ass. And if that punk ass trade you made, you don this like the optics is terrible, right? And they they got a point. They got a point. But the thing is like I it’s just such a a [ __ ] up situation to be in if you joke because it’s like you in a bit of a no- win situation, especially with this Willie Green thing. And I don’t a part of me don’t know the whole ass route that Willie Green going to go afterwards cuz Willie Green might be like Derek C and go to uh Joe Olstein church and be like some days was better than others and do a big old speech and now everybody like oh they drove Willie to drink and it’s going to be a big big old thing and everybody gonna blame the team. But but you got to make a decision. Huh? That’s part of the problem. When Steven Silas was about to get fired over in Houston, he started looking homeless. He wasn’t getting haircuts. Yeah. Like he was wearing the same clothes. He was cuz he was stressed. He actually [ __ ] cared. Like he signs was looking bad. Willie still going to the barber every day, every other day. You know what I’m saying? Like he ain’t moving like somebody on the line. Yeah. Yeah. Like he ain’t he not sweating like don’t look stressed. ain’t a ain’t a ain’t got no ain’t smoking cigarettes now. None of that, dog. Stephen Steven Silas looked bad, dog, cuz he knew this [ __ ] was over. He was right. Oh, I I really think in uh I think I think the fact that Will was allowed to stick around as long as he did is a major indictment on just just paying attention to the team on a just on a micro level and being invested into how certain like not even certain players, how the players feel as a collective. Because you had to think that even if some guys did go like, “Look, this ain’t going to work.” [ __ ] kind of like, “Well, I just you’re not getting a third coach. I’m not not I’m not firing another coach for y’all.” I’m talking about with the players because it just seemed like Willie has gotten worse and worse and worse. Like even him, if I wanted to to, you know, borrow his term, give him some credit. Initially, you did see a little bit of like passion and enthusiasm, but what boy say? Soon as I got that check, I was gone. Speaking of checks, shout out to Blue Jay with that 50 piece having 500 fellas. I can’t just blame Gail. She don’t know what’s going on. I blame Dennis Lousia, too. Yeah. Yeah. Look, you’re right, Blue J. You absolutely right, bro. that whole ownership group, Greg, Gail, uh the rest of the [ __ ] It’s just to to me at this point, you taking advantage of a a widow. At this point, you’re just taking advantage like, you know, and cuz she don’t know [ __ ] to her. People made a thing about people made a thing about her being at the Rams game, but it’s like, no, I remember her being at the OKC game as well. You know what I’m saying? But she don’t know [ __ ] Like how many times you fix your girl, call your girl, go right there and [ __ ] it up again. Like you just my boy Chris say hallelujah. But but still, you know what I’m saying? G don’t know [ __ ] You just need a real ownership group in here, man, to handle things effectively. And uh just go from there, bro. That it’s really it’s not it’s not not as simple as I’m making it, but you start with William. Can you start with uh so Markstein put out something about the Pelicans which I read and it was just a like really didn’t like tell me much like he said like yeah Willy’s on the hot seat but like and why they kept James Baro which we all knew from going to Mike Brown staffs because he was eventually the replacements like we already kind of know that but is it happening Monday like no one all of a sudden seems to know so interesting. Brian Ross, uh, 49 super chat. Appreciate Dumar’s Kos Chaos. Chaos. Chaos agent sent by the NBA to get them to Seattle. Yeah, Brian. I don’t, you know, a lot of people keep talking about the Seattle. Appreciate you, Brian. Um, like I they’re not going to move to Seattle. Like the NBA doesn’t want teams to move. They want to expand. Like I don’t see them moving to Seattle. I mean, y’all do y’all feel like this team’s going to move? Not. Are they going Are they going to keep be getting beat 137 to 106? Like is that supposed to is I’m just I’m tired of that. The only choice is Ty Graves. Like that’s that’s our only choice. I’m just tired of that holding me hostage. Ocean tide. Ocean. We do have ocean tide ocean. Well’s only culture $5 super chat. Appreciate you. The starting five should be Herb, Trey, Zion, Carlo, Mei. Four spacings that line up plus Zion gets to play his natural position. Be effective. Wolves only culture. Herb got to sit down somewhere. Like, I’m sorry, brother. He just got to sit down somewhere. It just ain’t gonna work. You can’t start a traditional center. Eve Eve has been struggling on the defensive boards like mightily. But it’s just, bro, they just turn they literally turn their back on her. Like it just remind me of that. Oh, hell no. Like I just it just remind me of that. Yeah. Even when he hitting it’s likeordon. Take another one. Go ahead. Shoot. Shoot another shot. This is no. Yeah. No. Once $5 super chat. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you, bro. Appreciate you. Was only culture again. Five super chat. Appreciate you, man. Van Gunny did a better job setting the offense up better in structure. Will he stun Zion’s growth? be with him not being the ball p the ball primary ball handler. If you wanna Leo, if you want to go that that that that is that is because you’re comparing an actual NBA coach, a good coach to somebody who should not be uh in charge of leadership at any any juncture of any level of sport. It’s like It’s like when you see um you see a Chrysler 300 and you be like, “Damn, that [ __ ] nice.” And then the Bentley pull up to it and you be like, “Oh [ __ ] that’s what Yeah, that’s what it’s supposed to look like.” Yeah. The to me this was the first domino of all the [ __ ] because if you if you go like before Stam Van or you just go to that one year now we’re in the modern era, right? If you just after Sam Van Gundy gets fired, immediately all of the issues started just everything started. Zion breaks his foot that summer. Um all all this all kind of the weird [ __ ] just start just happening behind the scenes happening and then people being so dramatic and theatrical like you know I just I just didn’t want to play basketball no more. What? If I’m not mistaken, oh, that was I was thinking piano. The piano thing was No, that that was that was that was your one. Uh, Dr. 318, appreciate the $20 chat. Love the show. Y’all always find a way to keep a bad team. Interesting for the fans. Oh, thank you, man. Congrats on 500. And cheers to another 500. Dr. 318. Appreciate your support, man. Um, another 500. B Thomas for two months. Congrats to the five fan. Y’all boys just get started preaching. I don’t know if I’m going to make it. Yum. Oh, this this this this this getting out of hand. I didn’t say that. I didn’t say you need a racist coach. I said you need a coach with a hint of racism. None of this yo yo yo [ __ ] Get get out of here with this man. All this yo word to the mother. Nah. [ __ ] that. [ __ ] that. Yo yo yo. Chaz, do you have the original clip of the yo-yo, my brother? No. Do you have the original clip? Do you have the original clip? I got that somewhere. Only culture on $2. I appreciate you really stunted Zion’s growth as a ball handler. Jared, [Music] I disagree. You got the whole off season. I disagree. Wolves, I don’t like that one. We can’t put We can’t get that one to Willie, bro. Yeah. Okay. It’s been seven It’s been seven years. Oh, just kind of stands. Oh, sorry, Chaz. Oh, emergency. Go. You go ahead. And your prospect had say something. My bad. Oh, probably go bring up prospect. Where’s prospect? Oh, I forgot we had the I dropped the bro. I dropped the link like three different times. [ __ ] man. Oh, wow. Okay, dog. Five over there in a uh in a coma, boy. Hey, bro. My life. I had a long day. Hour and a half. Oh, yeah. Turn out that jungle music. That jungle. That stupid story, dog. [ __ ] Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. Can we Can we Can we Can we talk about that story again? What happened? Bi was in the practice facility with the music up instead was like, “You need to turn that off and focus.” Yeah. He might even use them words. He might [ __ ] [ __ ] off like, “No.” Oh my god. He like, “I can’t work with this [ __ ] Y’all got to figure something out.” Like [ __ ] stand. You can play your G Herbo at home. Okay. Not here. Not here, pal. Listen, B dog, you can What do you call him? Call him B dog. Listen, B dog could bump your raps in your whip. You heard what? I got smoke this fool. You You take that be seagull back home. He said, “We don’t want that bullshit.” Sheree [Laughter] [Music] joking. That’s probably supposed to happen. This man for that not enough basketball bouncing around here. This music, all this hip-hop, take it home. Yeah, I get it. I get it. Bling [ __ ] bling. He work on your free throws. Can you work on your [ __ ] free bro? Oh [ __ ] Ros super chat all the credit Willie gave uh Will Soly Culture again. Appreciate you bro. Sorry at shooting forward. It would be more effective. Shooting forward. Small forward. Oh my god. Small forward, bro. Jesus. Shooting forward. In the show. It’s been a long It’s been a long day. I’m sorry. Shooting for is [ __ ] crazy. small. Um, y’all thought about Queen not getting no run? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Backside ball movement. Uh, and then Blue J. Blue Jay. Happy 500 fells. I can’t just blame Gail. Should I know what’s going on and blame Dennis Lka Prospect? Yo, Prospect in the building. Prospect. Welcome to the show. Prospect. What’s up, Prospect? Y. you. What’s up, man? I need I’m my favorite Willie low light was when when this [ __ ] had the nerve to say John Hawkins was making his job difficult. Damn, that was a good one. Yeah, and then didn’t play that man. It’s a disaster Guantanamo Bay. Like, yo, what? Like, yo, what? I gotta coach this guy. Like honestly, I feel like he feel the same way about Jeremiah feels, bro. But he know he can’t do that again. Like he he know it won’t be allowed this time. You can’t get up there and do that with Jeremiah. You just did it the Hulk. And that’s I feel like that’s the only reason Jeremiah getting a start. But with the queen, but it’s like he overreacting. You see what I’m saying? It’s like his his his reactions be overlay the opposite of what it should be. Yeah. Like come on. What is What is this? Crazy. Appreciate you, Prospect. 500. You made it to 500 with us, man. Congratulations to all y’all boys, bro. Y’all y’all keep this [ __ ] entertaining for us. We need to help us cing for the eggs, bro. Go on a mission. Yeah, we need to send prospect on a mission. [ __ ] Allege allege mission. Why you always trying to discredit me, bro? Knock it all, Justin. You always I do my own work. Knock it off. Right. Me pro. Damn. Ah, my bad, bro. Hey, for real though, we appreciate you, man. Thanks for all the support. Thanks for always calling in. For sure. For sure. You’re one of the OGs. Appreciate you, man. Appreciate you, brother. Appreciate you, dog. Later. Uh, that’s Young Prospect. One of the man, he’s he been since day one, man. Prospect. Prospect. A real one. Literally since day one. So, appreciate you. Um, who shout out to X2? We appreciate you, brother. There’s a couple. We got Sean X. [Music] Brian Osborne Shane Michael 504 Ocean Tide again 504 Frank Uncle Phil Uncle Phil Bust. Donald’s a good one. Blue for sure. Oh yeah, Blue J. Of course. Yeah. Oh, Blue Java. LA. Um, Ha got a new name. What’s my dog from from overse 24 months? I ain’t seen Rachel in a minute. Shout out to Rachel. Rachel Rachel at Co. Cole. Go check on Rachel, man. Shelby, what’s our other home girl? Damn, there’s a lot of people. I said Shelby Shane Spectacular Insight’s a good one. Trey last. Oh, we got ran. We got Lee. I read that. Yeah, Lee. Lee, go ahead. What’s popping, Lee? Lee, what’s up with you? What’s going on, fellas? You doing all right, brother? Man. Hey, I’m happy to happy to be here, bro. Congratulations on show number 500. [ __ ] I’m wondering if we gonna make it to another 500, bro. Brother, brother, back up a little bit. What’s up? All right. There we go. There we go. All right. Okay, man. Enjoying y’all, bro. [ __ ] If without y’all, man, things will be tough this season, boy. You think you think we can turn turn the season around, Lee? They fire Willie tomorrow. Yeah, but it I mean, but you got to make a move. Not [ __ ] Will be [ __ ] things up, bro. Man, really [ __ ] [ __ ] up, [ __ ] I’m in the 985. So, where where the white women at, bro? I I heard you. You know where the white women at? I’m holding it down in Kim. Tell me where they Britney Spears type. All right. All right. All right. Family show. Come on. Come on down to Independence. I heard I heard they they got strawberries over there in Independence, man. Hey, just the kids should be going to bed by not being school going on. Hey, it’s all good. Kids are bed, man. Go ahead. Kids in bed, man. Do you guys think that it’s that it’s some kind of trade that we could make to kind of improve things right now? I mean, the Baron is kind of low in regards to draft picks, but is it? You know, you know, it’s it’s really it’s really not. appreciate it better than not, bro. We appreciate you, Lee, because they still got a they still got most of their own picks. You still got the uh the 27 Bucks pick. Now, one thing I This is very important to consider. Now, if Indiana happens to get the number one pick, which I doubt they will, but let’s say they do, the pick was top four protector anyway. So, it was going to be for you is going to be number five and beyond. So that’s something it it still makes you feel bad because you clearly hit a home run at pick seven with Jeremiah Fizz. But if you’re the Pelicans, you got a bunch of still got interesting uh young players you who not on really bad contracts and not just yet anyway. Uh you got most of your own first and you guys salary. So six games and a I think what was that that team Chris didn’t like? He was absolutely right about that. Like the beam team [ __ ] started 0 and four. So it just, you know, it just it’s perspective, bro. Like you know, watching some of these games, it’s perspective. Good point. Uh appreciate everyone that’s calling in. We can drop the link. I wanted to shout a couple more people. Showtime 504 obviously. Uh Zilla Zill is another good one. Jean PL Hunter, shout out. I mean, if they knew how to manage this right, we could we could be looking at next year totally [ __ ] different. I I hate six games and talking about it though, but imagine a 20 year old, you know, 21 20 how old he is Jeremiah Fears, you know, after 19, right? Yeah. Yeah. Enduring, you know, 10 games of Willie Green or whatever the [ __ ] that looked like, you know what I mean? Derek Derek Queen being in a professional program for a year. Like there’s things to look to, you know, there’s optimism you could find, you know, but you got to start with getting rid of the [ __ ] coach and getting a real, you know, uh, right, a real person in there. And you got to do it early, dog, before too much of this [ __ ] kind of kind of soak in. Like you don’t like you don’t need that, man. Like these these these young guys, they need some kind of consistency, man. They don’t need to be going coach after coach. This guy, this guy, this guy. Figure this [ __ ] out now. Big SW Big SW’s another one. I got I’m sorry for everybody. I just want to say thanks for all the birthday wish all the birthday wishes. You know what I’m saying? Keep keep it rolling. Happy birthday five Zeke. Birthday five. I I really think well and we got Darien man. Shout shout out to everybody man. Shout out to Dev and everybody. I really think it’s it’s it’s pretty obvious that he not extracting the most out of this roster and some guys just you know again like substitute there [ __ ] sitting wherever they want to sit nobody [ __ ] signing their name and just leaving you can just tell bro like when I watch Jordan Pool specifically when I watch the defensive effort he was putting forth early in the season well it’s still early in the season first couple games up until now [ __ ] are like I’m good like whatever Kevin Durant. Yeah. Like Zion leading the league and still like who cares anymore. Like [ __ ] just they stop caring. Like you know, you’re lucky to get a a good game from a [ __ ] who don’t care every once in a while. Like they gonna pull a Jimmy Butler or something. But most people they just once they stop caring, it’s like whatever. I think I think the the sooner you move on from Williams, the better. And go ahead. My bad. I thought you was my fault, dog. Uh I I don’t think it’s they don’t care. I think they care about basketball. I think they they care about winning. Yeah, of course. They don’t want to do anything to benefit him. You think it’s a mutiny? Yeah, I truly do. Ain’t that kind of some loser [ __ ] though? Nah, man. Nah, bro. Cuz cuz if I’m them and I’m telling telling other people like yo like he’s bad, he’s detrimental. Just like just how they suspend Jai for being detrimental to the tw to the team. Who’s going to suspend Willie for being detrimental to the team? Yeah. So I think they see it as like, bro, we got to get this dude up out of here. Like I’ll sacrifice me not playing well if you know this is my opinion. This is my thought. This is my theory. Allegedly. Allegedly. Like I’ll play bad just just so he can get get the [ __ ] up out of here and we can just be free. He don’t listen to none of our ideas. You know, we always bring him, you know. You know, we you know, we always bring him different things that we think different um advancements, different different plays, different looks that we can throw in. He tell us we going to look into it. We never do. We running the same [ __ ] you know. uh you know but but he’s also not giving any positive ideas is going to make any sense any any thoughtful creativity to the picture when I bring him something he’d look at me like I just gave him an algebra problem you know um you know it’s just like like we we didn’t all been around somebody like that though bro it’s like bro like why am I even I don’t want to be around here I’m not learning nothing from like be being here you know if this is the great and and f I like I totally understand what you’re saying. And Chris, to your point, right, but if that’s the gripe, it’s been the gripe. Okay. Yeah. Like, you know what I’m saying? Like, we didn’t know that. So, we didn’t know that from last summer coming into this season. We didn’t know that from the year before. Like, I I’m just saying that to say the man not getting fired, man. Yeah. I just think where this team won 49 games in a season where I thought they played like [ __ ] right? They left some money on the table for real that they didn’t want to hear about it. They didn’t want to hear about it. But again like oh like that I feel like that season saved Willie and they probably know something that I I don’t know that season that you know even the team publicly you know paraded around like oh yeah 49 wins David Griffin was like if we win 49 wins again and and I come back and say the same thing you know failure it’s failure well this looks like failure doesn’t it? Yeah. This feels like failure. That’s funny. Smells like failure. Ask Naji. Ask Naji. He’ll tell you. He’ll definitely He’ll definitely shout out to Naji. Naji. Naji. Another one. Another another day one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. E friend of the show. Uh you know he Marshall. Yeah. Cuz you know cuz you know everybody be like tapped in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They should have resigned. They should have resigned Naj. I be like N That was one of them loss I was like come on bro uh you could at least got a second if you was going if you was going to bust a move like it’s just been I’m telling you though it it it’s just one it was that first domino and everything just went to [ __ ] hell everything’s went to hell bro you gota you gotta if you going destroy destroy completely oh [ __ ] I mean his own his own allies was was on press conferences in the playoffs saying, you know, we win most of our games because of talent. Yeah. That I mean, yeah, that’s why that’s why y’all not held Trey Murphy account at all. What do you watch show basketball, brother? You know what? Not on 500. You know what? You know what? Not today. Maybe 507, but not today. Not today. D boy 199, appreciate you being exactly five and saying that for four games. Um, can I read y’all this tweet from Kushner? Yeah, sure. I think I think it’s kind of, you know, we’re going for two hours, but yeah, make sure you smash like button. Um, Kushner said, uh, basically he just basically said, I’ve spent most of the last four years screaming at everyone, the folks running New Orleans 2 pro franchise um, are incompetent, relent relentlessly arrogant. Uh, nothing has changed and nothing will change. Uh, he then later says, “This is the one that has bothered me. not bothered me, but like eye opening. Meanwhile, they hold the keys to access for the city’s sports media, which is why when losses pile up, fingers start pointing at players and coaches rather than those actually steering the organization into competitive dystopia. So, real pressure never hits their doorstep. Well, we know he’s not wrong, but that don’t mean that Willie a good coach. Yeah. No, I’m No, Willy’s a terrible coach. I just find it I I do find it Go ahead, Chaz. No, go ahead, Justin. I I’ll follow you. Well, I was just going to say they really don’t get much blame. You You Bro, they got the My bad. Nah, Go. Go ahead, Lo. Go ahead, Lo. You can’t You can’t give them blame. You If you go on If you go on Twitter, if you go on Twitter right now, somebody will tell you, “Man, Mrs. I’m not [ __ ] everything. I’m just saying that’s prop. What’s her name? What’s her name? Mrs. B. That’s what they call her. Miss Miss B. Miss B does everything she can for this community. Do you think those people are actual legit fans of the teams? I think they’re a bunch of that that support the team that that actually support the team or, you know, spend time talking about them and or going to the game and spending money. Do you think that that they are actually fans? Oh [ __ ] No. No way. Anybody, Saints or Pelicans, whether Fann is [ __ ] okay with this. It’s terrible. Go go go on your go on your partner Go on your partner Twitter and tell me you know what I’m talking about. Oh, he knew what I’m talking about. I bro, I made these shirts, bro, a while ago at this point, bro. Yep. By the team. made them by hand. That’s tank. But uh I’m lying, but I did make those shorts. And it’s just like, nah, [ __ ] kind of been saying it. Well, I’m I know I said it since this the school trade didn’t happen. Right now, I will admit prior to that, I just blamed it on David Griffin and coaching. I didn’t really think too much about ownership until after that. But it’s like when when you when you kicking a [ __ ] back in and trying to stump him out, it’s hard to do that, right? It’s hard it’s hard to like assassinate someone’s character, right? When the fan base or when several people are echoing something to the contrary, if the fan base not if they don’t want to see it, then you again, you just look like the [ __ ] yelling that the aliens coming. And so now you’re about three, four years removed. Now it look like, hey, you know, uh, maybe we should do something about this [ __ ] Maybe we should give it a talk. You know, she ain’t no longer [ __ ] B, huh? We don’t know what the B stands for. Y’all know I’ve been saying this for years, right? Like, yo, again, will it be tandem? You gota gota get rid of them both. You can’t get rid of one. You gota you cut the head off a snake, the body gonna live. You cut the you gota you got to just burn the whole [ __ ] thing. You got rid of everybody. You might have some brothers. Everybody got to go. So situations like this, this is what this is what happens. Like this is what the f this kind of a bit or some of it is karma because you accept like how many times we have to hear about these 49 wins or how many times I hear about uh Gail saving basketball in New Orleans. It’s like yeah I guess you get paid plenty for your risk though. I mean [ __ ] how long you want me to how long you want me to live with that. You know what I’m saying? Like honestly because if y’all trash it don’t really matter if y’all got a team to be honest. You might like if you trash who gives a [ __ ] basketball. Yeah. Yeah. I mean what if you say you saving basketball in New Orleans and being a part of that but people ashamed to be shut up to be assigned to the [ __ ] shut the [ __ ] up. Basketball what happened? Yeah. No I know not me but [ __ ] out of here. I want about the comment. [ __ ] [ __ ] that comment. You were saying Chris on 500. I like how you handle that, Leo. Bro, I mean, I be trying to not be uptown. I be trying to be, you know what I’m saying? Shut the [ __ ] up. Leo saying I was uptown, too, [ __ ] Oh, yeah. Here we go. Make sure you smash the like button. Uh, episode 500 is always It’s always a pleasure, man. Come on. We couldn’t have episode 500. I don’t remember what I was saying. It don’t matter. Basketball. Basketball. You ruined it. You ruining it. You ruining it. Basketball’s ruining it. Smash the like button. Subscribe to the channel. We’ll be live again Tuesday night. Unless Willy get Willie Green gets fired tomorrow. Uh we’ll be live covering that. Appreciate all the spam support. Appreciate all the comments, all the super chats. Obviously, Ocean Tide. Um y’all are absolutely the best. Blue Jay. Um I’m sure I’m forgetting some, but 504 boy. Um Wolves Only Culture, Black Preacher Man, Brian Ross. Appreciate all the super chats. Will Chill, of course. Uh, Dola, appreciate the super chats. And of course, Chris Connor, I appreciate the super chat as well. Zeke, appreciate your super chat and all your support. And most importantly, appreciate all you Leo, Chris, Jared, Chaz, Ross, man. Thanks for all y’all damn hard work, man. Best in the business. True professional. So, appreciate y’all, man. We will holl at y’all later. All right.
0:30- Intro
6:00- Things Have To Change
11:00- When Will Change Happen?
13:30- Derik Queen
27:30- Jordan Poole
38:00- Will Willie Green Be Fired?
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Willie Green is a small person, he benched Poole to punish him for what, this coach act like a toddler. Terrible!!! Opposite teams will let anyone take shots besides Poole, Zion and Trey because no one else can beat them. Since Fears started 3 blowout losses, not sure why Justin like him starting so much. He should not start. The difference between Poole and Fears is that Poole can win game by himself, he went off in Clippers game and Pelicans almost won that game, but Fears can't, he can do cute stuff here and there, but he won't drop 40 pts or make the defenders leave Zion to defend him so starting him won't benefit Zion. He actually took shots away from Zion. Fears is very talented but he not there yet. He is currently used by Willie to punish Poole, which is really not fair for the kid.
Happy 500 fellas
Why the St. Aug. slander?????
Missi= not NBA ready
Chaz is so lame 😂
Thanks for the shout out on the pod tonight 🙌 Pelicans may be disappointing but you guys keep the fan base entertained!
Chaz kinda lost me in the beginning with the herb thing. Is this the running narrative? Let’s get this bad coach out the building you can’t keep getting rid of good players..have to fix the coaching first
How could Chaz blame two people for the organize for being dysfunctional for a decade… the dude just be talking.
Willie Green is a member of Alpha Phi Alpha fraternity they not firing him
The idea that the team cannot be properly evaluated because of coaching is nothing but cope, coming from the "Zionist" wing of the Pelican fanbase. Zion simply isnt the engine for winning y'all have made him out to be.
He never was.
https://youtu.be/8HAVk5j5x5w?si=ITCiC7rUIX5nHUp4….. Brah
Zion was never the answer. Even if we fire Willie , nothing will happen. We have to admit that the best solution for this shit was to move on from this 2 guys.
WWL reporting… today is the day. Bill is gone at Noon