Astros roster SHAKE-UP begs question how Houston RETOOLS for 2026!

Astros roster SHAKE-UP begs question how Houston RETOOLS for 2026!

Hey, welcome into Stone Cold Stros. I’m Brandon Strange with Charlie Palo and Josh Jordan. Go follow both of them on X at Palo and Josh Jordan SCS. On today’s episode, following all the reports of coaching departures, we finally have an arrival kind of. Uh, speaking of departures, a couple stars from the 2022 World Series run have been cut loose. We’ll react to that. And we are we just maybe a couple weeks, a couple months away from JV part three. One Astros insider says, “Maybe, probably.” And speaking of MLB insiders, Ken Rosenthal raised some eyebrows this week with his comments. We’ll let you decide if you’re buying it or not. Before all that, we announced a couple weeks ago that we acquired uh Sports Map and took ownership of our shows. A few of you have been kind enough to reach out and ask how you could support the show. Charlie, you have some news on that. 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But link, buy me a coffee.com/stoneonestros, and on we go. Appreciate that. And in lie of that, you can support the show by hitting like on the video, subbing to the channel if you haven’t already, click that bell for notifications. We’re on all your favorite podcast apps where you can listen. Just search Stone Coldstros. Okay, announcements over with. We got news this week. We got a lot of news this week. We have a lot to get into, but uh news this week from the Athletic that Houston has outrighted several players including Kennedy Corona, John Rooney, Pedro Leone, Luis Garcia, and Chazzy Fitz, Chaz McCormack. Look, the writing was on the wall, but it’s brutal to see how this played out, just especially for guys like Garcia who went down hurt and Chaz. Both of those guys meant so much during that 2022 season. Had so many big moments. Um although not as many recently, that’s why we find ourselves here. Guys, what are your reactions to these cuts? Well, there are absolute pages in Astros lore for McCormack and Garcia. McCormack will forever be remembered for the catch of the rail motto ball in the ninth inning against the Phillies in in game five. But Chaz McCormack was a hell of a player for a season plus 2022 pretty good and then 2023 flatout terrific. ops of 830 and just a crushside guy right-handed hitting part of a platoon. Um, and it just all Chaz fizzled out shockingly so how awful he was in 2024, even worse in 2025 when he lost his job and well his Astros career. At least McCormack did make it to salary arbitration. He made $3.4 $4 million in 2025 for just worse than than awful performance. He turns 31 years old very early next season. He will find an opportunity to at least go to spring training with another big league club uh and get a shot to try to reestablish himself as the right-handed hitting part of an outfield platoon somewhere. But uh thanks for the memories both McCormack and Garcia specifically. I want to add on Pedro Leon, who I think is a little microcosm of the state of the Astros in their farm system. Now, he was a very highly regarded and hyped signing out of Cuba. Cuba, $4 million the Astros gave him in 2021. He immediately became a top five Astros prospect amounted to nothing. Contact issues, better athlete than ball player, some tantalizing power and speed, but just never sustained. got one little taste in the major leagues and was just a a whiff machine. Now, he was not a draft pick, but he was a signing at first round pick type money. And it’s a reminder that the Astros have not taken a player in the first round who’s become a good big leager since Alex Bregman and Kyle Tucker in the 2015 draft. That’s now a fully one decade long drought. Yes, they lost two years to the punishment from the the scandal and they’ve been picking low in the first round, but you go oh for a decade and you know it’s not like their second round picks have been bang up either. Uh so Pedro Leone 27 years old what what might have been but it’s really what he never was or became here. Yeah, for me Chaz big memories of him taking Garrett Cole deep against, you know, in Yankee Stadium right down the right field line in the playoffs. Huge play right there from Chaz and it’s just injuries and poor play. It just has not worked the last few years and his arm became an issue in the outfield as well. So, and remember all the Dusty Baker stuff with Chaz that was always just kind of weird. Um, so I’m not that surprised I because of all that in hindsight that maybe there’s a reason this didn’t work out. But either way, he’ll always be remembered for that catch and that big home run. A lot of other big moments. It’s sad to see him go, but Astros got to get this outfield figured out. So, we’ll see what happens here. They You got Cam Smith out there. Are they going to play Altuve? Yordon, who knows? You got Jake Myers, bunch of other guys to think about as well. Sanchez, what are they going to do with him? So, I I just don’t really think they had a spot for Chaz and all the other guys. I guess Pedro Leon’s the one you were hoping that that upside would finally come through. It just it never panned out. And Charlie’s right. They just they got to get this thing figured out with with batting and hitting and development in the farm system. It’s just it’s un it’s unacceptable at this point. In toast to Chaz as he officially becomes an exastro. A heaping spoon of banana pudding for all of us. indeed. And I agree with you, Charlie. I think he’ll get a shot somewhere. And I wouldn’t be surprised if he catches on some place and, you know, has maybe a few more memories left and that he can generate for another fan base. It’s just a real bummer, unfortunately, just to see his trajectory and where he went. And obviously, Luis Garcia, who didn’t get to uh get his first big deal, so and his career is in real jeopardy uh after having that second Tommy John. So that’s that’s who it’s a real bummer. But just in general, it’s it’s just a bummer to see all of those guys uh not really reach their full potential in the evolution or the life cycle of a team. There’s comingings and goings on the coming side. Maybe I should phrase that differently, but uh incoming, I should say. Um, this week we got reports that uh from Brian McTagert that a source tells him the Astros are targeting Victor Rodriguez to join the staff as hitting coach. Look, you we’ve talked about this ad nauseium, the need for change in that position. Uh, they are headed that direction. Are we excited about the acquisition of Victor Rodriguez? No. I’m sure his family members and anyone else who’s somehow attached to him, however many degrees of separation, which is not a knock on Victor Rodriguez if he he’s the guy, but he strikes me like most hitting coaches as a hitting coach. They’re largely interchangeable. Maybe there’s that very select upper crust that’s really good and then there are two or three toward the bottom who are really bad and Rodriguez is probably in that big in between. I mean, you look at the Padres’s offensive profile and I’m not going to put it on Victor Rodriguez that Fernando Tatis’s power productions kind of flattened out. That Louisa Rise never took any walks while banging out all his singles. Jackson Merrill’s second season not nearly as good as his rookie season. Um, someone has to get the job. So, if Victor Rodriguez moves from the Padres’s to the Astros, good for him, I guess. That’s the ringing endorsement. Well, I mean, they have to hire somebody. That’s kind of what it is with hitting coaches, right? Like, we don’t know these guys that well. The only thing I could do was kind of dig into the numbers a little bit. And I get it, everybody. how the Padres’s produced on offense this year in these categories doesn’t necessarily represent the job he did, but we don’t have much else to go off of from afar. So, the things I noticed, what do the Astros talk about? They want to get better at walking, not swinging so many bad pitches. They want to get on base more. So, in that sense, the Padres’s were 16th in walks last year. The Astros were 26th. So, okay, that’s I know the the players and how they are selective. I know has a lot to do with it, but this is what we’re going with. Also, on base percentage, Astros were 15th. Not that bad. Padres’s were ninth. They were better. But you go look at OPS, Astros are actually better at 14th versus 16th. But in runs scored, Padres’s a little better at 18th as opposed to 21st. So when those, you know, getting runs, scoring runs was a problem when guys got on base. Getting on base was a problem and walking was a problem. Padres’s were all a little bit better in those categories than the Astros were last year. Yeah, a little bit better. Which to me it goes to the the players. Yeah. Uh there’s no aha that wow Victor Rodriguez, this must be a point of emphasis because look at the clear disparity uh in the numbers. So I will default to he’s a hitting coach. I mean whoever they hire, they’ll introduce he connects with the hitters. He teaches very well. Blah blah blah blah blah. If Yanner Diaz is gonna be back with the Astros and stop being an embarrassment, swinging at everything out, is it going to be because the new hitting coach beat it into his head or somehow a light bulb of whatever wattage came on for Yanner Diaz? Yeah, and I think the house cleaning that occurred was earned. U but no one’s going to be a miracle worker. Um you can’t expect anyone to come in and uh make chicken salad out of the entire lineup. uh he needs players. Um the lineup was supremely mid for most of the season, especially the second half with runners in scoring position, plate discipline, yada yada yada. We’ve talked about it. We beat it into the ground here, but they need help. Um and and that’s why it’s it’s hard to compare those numbers because it was a different staff. You know, I just I Dana Brown’s got his work cut out for him and we’re going to see a lot of I think we’re going to see a lot of smaller moves in anticipation for what they’re going to do. U probably just worth mentioning here, speaking of hitting coaches, that Alex Centron is reportedly taking the long drive up to 45 uh to be the Rangers hitting coach per Michael Schwab. That has not been uh confirmed yet, but neither as the Rodriguez thing that also was a source per Brian McTagrret. Um, moving on to pitching. It was announced this week that Hunter Brown is a SAI young finalist. Welld deserved, but probably more importantly for our discussions here, it’s great for the well-being of the team because that earns them a PPI pick following the first round. Um, and then moving on, while we’re on the topic of pitchers, Chandler Rome pontificated on his podcast this week on the likelihood of uh Justin Verlander returning to Houston. Now, he thinks it’s a likely scenario. We’ve been discussing this for the past couple of weeks. I think it makes a lot of sense. We’ve talked about the relationship with JV and Jim Crane, how there’s a, you know, there’s a friendship there. It makes a lot of sense from that regard, especially from a commitment standpoint, just a one-year minimal commitment, and Jim Crane loves short contracts. I I do wonder though we’ve talked about it from the standpoint of would we want to see it? How likely is the scenario? Let’s turn that around though. I wonder given the past two seasons for Houston, how much does JV want to be in Houston? Interesting question. He is a very smart guy, an observer of baseball history. Uh, I loved how acutely aware of that he was of his place in history as he was climbing lists. Not in an ego maniacal way, but in a driven way. But would he be susceptible? Oh, Altuve and Koreah. Well, they’re not the players that they they used to be. Neither is Verlander. Salaries are another scoreboard. I mean, Justin Verlanders made well over a quarter billion dollars. He went to a Giants team that was not an on paper strong contender. They could offer him the most money. They gave him $15 million. Uh, he’s not going to get, I don’t think, the biggest offer from the Astros, but if it’s just 2 million different, I mean, he knows the race for 300’s over after winning just four games last season and still being like 38 wins away. He’ll be 43 years old. He made 29 starts. That’s a good thing. But what’s the likelihood of him holding up that healthily in his age 43 season? If the Astros starting rotation net result is Framber Valdez out, Justin Verlander and Nate Pearson in, the Astros got worse or get worse. Oh yeah, I think we could all agree even if they get Verlander, they have to go out and get another legit starting pitcher this off season. I I’ll be extremely disappointed if they don’t go put some serious money into somebody. I’m not saying $150 million or anything, but go find somebody you think you can depend on to go along with Verlander. I I don’t think that’s enough just to add Verlander. I would feel better though losing Fomber that if I at least get Verlander with Javier and with Hunter Brown, I I’d start to feel a little bit better about that. I especially on a one-year deal, you know, if they’re paying him 10 12 million bucks, I think I’m okay with I don’t want to go back to 15. There is something to that, Charlie, where Verlanders always kind of had that Payton Manning thing where it’s like I’m taking the most money. You know, even Pton Manning after he made all that money, he was trying to max out everything he could with the Colts and with the Broncos and and Burlander took the most money last year and we remember when, you know, he went to the Mets. We thought he was going to take top dollar and he did. So, I think that’s something to consider. I think Detroit makes a lot of sense. They’re a good ball club. We’ll see what happens with their pitching staff with, you know, all kinds of trade rumors. Maybe he wants to go back there where he started. They have a good ball club. They can win some games there. So, I think Detroit or Houston probably makes the most sense. We talked a couple weeks ago how Verlander, I mean, he’s 4 and 11, but one loss record deceptive. 385 RA competitive for a back end of the rotation guy. 299 after the All-Star break, 208, five starts in September, but he will be a year older. San Francisco, Oracle Park, much better pitchers park than is Dyken Park. If you’re bringing Verlander, it should be as a fifth starter. And if he outperforms that, wonderful. But to me, it’s to get rid of a dozen McCull starts and nine Colt Gordon starts. Not that. Hey, JV the third time around is a number two or number three starter. Yeah, I think it makes a lot of sense from Houston standpoint. The minimal investment. Jim Crane would love to promote more JV days at the ballpark at the spike attendance. It’s it’s another big name to sell jerseys for and merch and blah blah blah. However, well, and I also think from the standpoint of two, like it makes sense where I could totally see the Astros making a bunch of moves on the margin and then waiting to see what the team looks like and what they need and to really maybe go all in at the trade deadline where they maybe feel like they’re a couple players away. But I do wonder if Jim Crane looks at this and goes, I don’t know that this team is a big frontline starter away from bridging the gap to between where they are now and where they need to be. I think that I think that helps a lot, but I don’t know that Jim Crane has ever shown that sort of appetite outside of uh bringing in a a really high dollar or high ticket priced u closer. But I I don’t know. I I’m I’m I’m really torn on it. I I could see them being pretty conservative going into the season just to see what they have and then to see how much they should commit because otherwise you might want to take you know you might start want to sell off some assets what that might be I don’t know um but if JV is prioritizing wins which is this is the reason why I asked the question if JB’s prioritizing wins I don’t necessarily see Houston as the destination for him I could see Detroit being a destination where it’s he can retire higher where he started and chase a few more wins before he hangs it up. So, it’s really hard to say. I’d personally love to see JV back in Houston. Um especially if we’re not going to get anything else. I think he’s on this team better than a fifth starter. Just that’s not a high bar to clear. Um, now, uh, want to move on to this last topic because this one came across my timeline earlier this week and Astra’s fans had thoughts. I had some thoughts. So, figured we’d knock it around here. Ken Rosenthal on the Foul Territory Network um, talking about the he was reacting to the Dodgers Championships or Championship most recently. Um he said quote I dare to say even if we were in a salary cap era the Dodgers would still be winning championships. Even though they are supreme spenders you have to admire what they’ve accomplished as an organization. Now there’s no doubt the Dodgers are a well-run organization. There’s no denying that. Uh do a very good job of drafting developing. However, just to put some things in perspective, the CBT for 2025 was $224 million. The Dodgers TV deal alone is worth $334 million a year. Their luxury tax was in excess of $375 million, which doesn’t count deferrals. They spent over a billion dollars in the offseason salary. They rolled out a literal billion dollar pitching staff in the World Series. Now, money isn’t everything, and I’m not saying that a cap would in any way help Houston considering the amount of money they’ve misspent because it’s not that they aren’t spenders, it’s just they may have misallocated funds and investments. Um, but I wanted to ask you guys your reaction to this. Um, how much truth do you see in Rosenthal’s statement there? And how much does it really disregard the growing disparity between the halves and have nots among even billionaire owners? Well, they’re not mutually exclusive factors. I mean, postseason baseball is a is a dice roll. So, that’s why the best team in baseball year to year rarely wins the World Series. Now, eight times in 31 years of the wild card era has the team with the most wins in the regular season done it. Milwaukee Brewers won the most games in the National League this year. Toronto did along with the Yankees win the most in the in the American League. It’s who does it in October or to the first day of November depending on how the calendar falls in a given year. Uh but the Dodgers are very wellrun. The New York Mets spending like no other. Now the Yankees have winning seasons every year, but their World Series drought goes to 2009. They’re not rubbing nickels together. The Dodgers, you’re born on third base. It doesn’t mean you hit a triple, but they drive the runs in. Uh helmed on the baseball decision-making side by native Houstononian Andrew Freriedman, who built the raise overachieve bang for a buck uh machine going back to the thes and then when he got to play with the Dodgers budget, well, they qualify as a dynasty. three World Series titles within six years, the first to go back to back since the Yankees won three in a row. And of course, they can spend, spend, and if there’s a mistake or an injury, just pay over it and spend. But consider this, the Astros Farm system is one of the worst in the game presently. You can’t spend your way in the draft. You can’t buy draft picks from other teams in your international expenditures. There are limitations. The Astros farm system at this point is a wasteland. The Dodgers farm system is ranked in the top two or three in the game. Number one in the game mid-season by MLB pipeline. The Dodgers pick low in the first round every year. Three of the top seven outfield prospects in the entire minor leagues, Dodgers prospects, they didn’t get them because they spent tens of millions of dollars and went way beyond the budget that other teams had. It’s because they drafted, developed, they’ve signed tactically in the international market. Now, maybe none of those guys amount to anything, but the odds are at least one of them will. or they’ll have trade capital that the Astros did back in the mid teens when Jeff Luna was able to trade highly regarded prospects, not one of which became a good major league player. Jake Rogers the close to it, but all your Seth Beer and Daz Cameron types that enabled the Astros to trade for Verlander and Cole, Colin Moran, Michael Feliz, anybody, Zack Grankkey. Now, Derek Farm system, right? It’s easy to pile on Dana Brown if he doesn’t make magic in this off season, but Dana Brown has very little to work with to go out in the trade market. Of course, his signature was in the area of player development. His first round draft choices, not fasttracking it to the major leagues, right? Bryce Matthews, Walker Yannik. Um, and this week the Astros lost their farm director. You know, whether it’s brain drain or just a loss, Jacob Buffalo leaving to go become the Cardinals director of international scouting. But if you lose the farm director when what’s been the harvest on the farm isn’t much of a loss. Yeah, look, you you have to give him credit for getting there, showing up, winning the games, going through the postseason, taking care of our a really impressive Toronto team, but at the end of the day, it’s just Apple. The Astros don’t play in in that type of game of they don’t go out and and sign guys like Otani in free agency or Freddy Freeman or they they they just can’t play that game. They can’t afford it. that the most I can think of is them paying hater the the contract that he signed a couple years ago, but you know that’s that’s not even a hund00 million and we’re talking about guys getting like $700 million. So sure, you give him all the credit and baseball is a thing where you get into the postseason and you never know what’s going to happen. But I mean it’s I mean we can’t ignore the Yankees did a lot of this, you know, years ago where they would go out and get whoever the big guy was, bring him over A-Rod, whoever whoever it was. they’d go make the move whether it was trade or free agency. And now the Dodgers are kind of that team and the Mets. And the Mets aren’t as good at it yet. We’ll see how that goes along here. But, you know, as an Astros fan, I’m like, you know, way to go. Great job. Whatever. I was rooting for the Blue Jays. But with the amount of talent they have on their team, it’s one of those deals where if you don’t go out and win it, your season was a loss. You know, it’s one of those things where I’m not going to give you all that much credit for winning it, but I am going to put a lot of blame on you if you don’t pull it off. Yeah, the time horizon obviously if you can wallet whip most of your competitors over time it’s a huge huge advantage well-run smaller market teams that just harness the right number of prospects maybe make the strategic signing here or there that works out they can have windows think of the Oakland A’s teams back in the early 2000s the moneyball stuff the Rays have had a couple of different windows of going to the playoffs repeatedly in a five six year period. The Minnesota Twins have had a couple of of separate stretches. Uh but the Dodgers are a perennial, right? 13 division titles in 14 years or 12 and 13 years. Hey, you know, the Astros had gone eight years in a row, seven American League championship series, which over time I think will grow in terms of the magnificence of that accomplishment. Uh but in the end, even with the the table tilted in the Dodgers favor, they still had to do the job. You know, the Blue Jays offered Otani the same contract. The Giants basically offered Otani the same contract. He picked the Dodgers because it’s an organization synonymous with winning. And California taxes really aren’t an issue when you’re making that much money no matter how much your interpreter steals from you. Allegedly. Um you know the salary cap criminally. Yeah. Well, I’m just saying stolen. Uh look, the the salary cap brings a whole other set of strain constraints with it, which is that uh teams can’t spend their way out of bad mistakes. But that goes both ways. And and look, Josh mentioned it in the previous era. The Yankees used they used to be the big bad uh the team that spent freely used the rest of the league as their developmental system to to sign players. Like, hey, it’s a nice prospect you got there. Now that he’s a free agent, we’ll take him now. Uh, in the modern era, it’s been the Dodgers and Mets that just spend crazy money, but that the Mets haven’t been able to convert that into a championship. So, it’s it’s not just about the money, but it’s hard to ignore the disparity. And just again, that TV contract alone for the Dodgers is a that’s a big difference. Uh, and I I don’t know that a salary cap solves anything per se. I think there’s a real like if should they go down that route, there’s going to be a real problem to solve, which is how do you untie this knot for teams that have been allowed to defer money and have all these big contracts on the book, is there some sort of salary amnesty that’s allowed to happen like we saw within the NBA in which uh teams were able to cut ties with uh you know really punitive contracts. So, we’ll see. Um, I’m not uh I’m not necessarily a proponent of a salary cap, but I am a I think I am a proponent of a salary floor because I think it’s time to uh motivate other teams to spend more and to where it’s not just um it’s not just a cheap money-making ploy for teams that want to just be marginally in it, own a uh an organization. Uh final thoughts before we’re out the door, guys. The general managers meetings come up first of the week. Dana Brown will be out in Las Vegas. Generally, the GM meetings sort of lay the foundation. Uh, typically not a huge point when trades happen. Now, I don’t know if there’ll be free agents, right? The green flag dropping on that Thursday. Uh, with the lockout looming post 2026, how will owners look at spending and budgeting and uhoh, if we’re coming out of a lockout, we know attendance is going to be down, revenues are going to be down. Will there be more players apt to try to jump for money sooner to lock it in while whatever is out on the market is out on the market? Uh but the general managers meetings upcoming this week, this week coming and then the winter meetings early December where typically a lot of the heavy lifting gets done. Yeah. I think my final thought there will be whatever changes they do make, Brandon, they’re not going to do something that’s going to screw over the Dodgers. You know what I mean? Like they’re not going to they’ll find a way to to make it not totally kill the Dodger. Whatever it is, they’re too important. That makes them too much money. Yankees too that they’re not going to crush their big market teams. And then speaking of big market and money, officially Bregman and Pete Alonzo opted out of their deals. We’ve heard reports that the Astros, for some reason, have interest in Alonzo, even though they already have a first baseman they just brought in. He wasn’t that great, but they gave him a ton of money. So, I’m curious to see where that goes because that’s a the amount of money he’s projected to make is nothing that Jim Crane would consider to pay. So, I’m I’m wondering where are these reports coming from? Yeah, we also got news this week that the World Series had a 50% higher uh viewership than the uh NBA Finals did. So, I think that just goes to show you why the Dodgers are so valuable to uh this league. And also, I think it’s a positive sign for people being interested in baseball. I think that it’s it’s nice to see. We have heard so much about baseball being dead, uh the need for all of these innovations like pitch the pitch clock and things like that. I’m still not sold on the pitch clock per se. I think probably a couple seconds on it would be nice uh just given the amount of injuries that we’ve seen. I can’t necessarily say that it’s causation, but I do think there is correlation to the spike in in in TJ surgeries. Um, outside of that, I think it’s this offseason we’re going to see how hungry Jim Crane is really to write this ship or how pragmatic he is about the state about this team. Is the window still open or as you said, Charlie, is the reckoning here. Uh, one last reminder, if you’re watching on YouTube, be sure to click like on the video and if you listen on podcast on apps like Apple or Spotify, give us a fivestar rating while you’re here. As Charlie said, you can donate to the show by going to buy me aacop.com/stoneonestros. Give a little, give a lot, or not. You don’t have to. Uh, for Charlie Josh, I’m Brandon saying so long. Thanks for listening. As always, go. [Music]

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