Why Sauce Gardner didn’t fit New York Jets’ future scheme plans | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC

YOU DO THAT TO ME? WELL, SAS GARDENER DOESN’T WORK FOR THE JETS. NO MORE. YEAH, OKAY, TRANSITION. HE’S DONE. THAT WAS THE STUNNER YESTERDAY. THAT WAS REALLY AND YOU KNOW, I’LL DO DIFFERENT RADIO SHOWS. HEY, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE TRADE DEADLINE? WELL, HERE’S WHAT I THINK. THERE’S GUYS WHERE THINKING OF THERE’S GUYS THAT WE’VE HEARD OF, AND THEN THERE’S GOING TO BE SOMEBODY THAT WE’RE NOT EXPECTING THAT’S GOING TO GET TRADED NOW. USUALLY, IT’S SOMEBODY THAT’S LIKE WELL WHO’S THAT? I GOT TO LOOK THAT UP AND SEE WHO THAT GUY IS BUT THERE ARE VERY FEW MOMENTS WHERE WHEN I SEE THE TWEET. THE FIRST THING I DO IS CHECK TO MAKE SURE IT’S A REAL ACCOUNT. I DID IT THE LAST TIME WHEN ANDREW LUCK RETIRED, AND I THINK I HADN’T OR 2 EXAMPLES, I’VE FORGOTTEN BUT YESTERDAY, WHEN I SAW THE FIRST TWEET, THAT SOOS GARDNER WAS BEING TRADED BY THE JETS OF THE COLTS. I LOOKED IMMEDIATELY LIKE, IS THIS REAL? IS THERE A, A 1, THAT’S AN L OR, YOU KNOW, IS SOMEBODY IS, IS THIS ACTUALLY THE PERSON’S TWITTER ACCOUNT OR THEN I WENT AND MADE SURE THAT IT WAS ELSEWHERE. PERSON, A BIT STUNNING, IT WAS YEAH, THAT THE JETS AFTER SIGNING HIM TO A 30.1 MILLION PER YEAR EXTENSION IN JUNE, MAKING HIM THE HIGHEST PAID PLAYER IN THE NFL AT HIS POSITION, PULL THE PLUG AFTER HALF A SEASON ON SAUCE GARDNER. YEAH, NO. HEY, LISTEN. THAT IT WAS, IT WAS BIG NEWS. I THAT WAS, THAT WAS JAW, HIT THE FLOOR TYPE OF WHAT SAUCE GARDNER. I MEAN, YESTERDAY, HEY, THE TRADE DEADLINE DIDN’T DISAPPOINT. I THINK THAT’S THE FIRST THING THAT JUST COMES TO MY MIND, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR WE KIND OF BUILD OURSELVES UP FOR THE TRADE DEADLINE, AND IT’S KIND OF ALWAYS LIKE, AH, WELL, ALL RIGHT, BETTER LUCK NEXT YEAR. IT WASN’T REALLY THAT EXCITING. MAYBE 1 TRADE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT WE HAVE A YEAR HERE THIS YEAR, WHERE WE’VE TALKED ABOUT IT A LOT, IT’S WIDE OPEN, IT’S WIDE OPEN IN BOTH CONFERENCES. THE NFC FEELS LIKE IT’S WIDE OPEN BECAUSE THERE’S SO MANY GOOD FOOTBALL TEAMS. THE AFC FEELS LIKE IT’S WIDE OPEN BECAUSE THEY’RE ALL KIND OF GOOD. BUT I’M NOT SURE IF ANYONE’S REALLY THEN THERE’S A TEAM, EVERY TEAM SEEMS TO HAVE A FLAW. SO IT WAS LIKE, OH, WHOA. SOMEBODY’S GOING TO ADDRESS THOSE FLAWS AND THEN, AND, OF COURSE, WHAT WE SAW YESTERDAY WAS MOVES MADE TO TO MAKE TEAMS BETTER TO GET THEM INTO THE SUPER BOWL WINDOW, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY, BUT SAUCE GARDENER, I MEAN, YES, IT’S BEEN 1 OF THE PREMIER CORNERS IN ALL OF FOOTBALL, THE LAST FEW YEARS, UH, GOES TO THE ALL PRO TEAM RIGHT? FIRST 2 UNHEARD OF LAWRENCE TAYLOR. I THINK, IS THE ONLY PERSON MAN. MAYBE THERE’S ANOTHER GUY OUT THERE BUT YEAH, THAT WAS BIG TIME NEWS. BIG TIME, NEWS. NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE JETS AND YOU FELT LIKE THEY LOVE SAUCE, GARDNER AND MAN, HE’S, HE’S A TOP 3 PICK BY THEM AND HE’S A BIG NAME HERE IN THE NEW YORK CITY AREA. BUT ALSO JUST A BIG TRADE TOO BECAUSE THE INDIANAPOLIS COLTS THE INDIANAPOLIS COLTS RAISED THEIR HAND YESTERDAY AND WE’RE LIKE, YEP, WE THINK WE’RE A SUPER BOWL TEAM. WE THINK THIS MOVE GETS US INTO THE SUPER BOWL. WE THINK OUR TEAMS ACTUALLY REALLY SET UP FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS. HERE, WE HAVEN’T BEEN SET UP LIKE THIS SINCE 2018, RIGHT? WHERE ANDREW LUCK, WENT TO THE PLAYOFFS AND PLAYED THE CHIEFS AND LOST TO THE DIVISIONAL ROUND WHICH THEY HAVEN’T BEEN IN A POSITION LIKE THIS FOR A WHILE AND THEY’RE GOING FOR IT AND GOOD FOR CHRIS BALLARD. GOOD FOR LANA ROOMA. THE D COORDINATOR, AND SHANE STEN BECAUSE I DO THINK IT’S A A GAME-CHANGING MOVE FOR THEM ON THAT SIDE OF THE BALL. YOU JUST SAW THE TERMS ON THE GRAPHIC 2 FIRST ROUND PICKS AND ADD MITCHELL. THE COLTS RECEIVER. BEST KNOWN FOR DROPPING THE BALL. WOW SCORING AND I GUESS THE JETS HAVE NO QUALMS ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY NEVER GET CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE END ZONE FOR ADD SHOTS. FIRED BAM. OKAY SO UH SO HERE. HERE’S HERE’S MY QUESTION AND YOU WERE RIGHT? LAWRENCE TAYLOR AND SAS GARDNER. THE ONLY DEFENSIVE PLAYERS TO BE ALL PRO IN EACH OF THEIR FIRST 2 SEASONS LAST YEAR WAS A DOWN YEAR FOR SAS GARDENER. AND I RECALL AARON GLENN, THE NEW JETS HEAD COACH TALKING IN THE OFFSEASON ABOUT BASICALLY SAUCE GARDNER HAVING A CLEAN SLATE. YEAH, WELL, LET ME JUST DO A QUICK DETOUR. I WAS TOLD OVER THE WEEKEND, THE JETS WERE TAKING A TON OF CALLS BUT THEY DID NOT WANT TO HAVE A FIRE SET. AND THESE ARE 2, BIG TRADES SAS GARDENER AND QUINN AND WILLIAMS WILL TALK ABOUT WILLIAMS IN A BIT, BUT IT’S NOT A FIRE SALE WHEN YOU COME OUT OF IT WITH 3 FIRST ROUND PICKS A SECOND ROUND PICK IN AD MITCHELL AND MAISIE SMITH. NOT THAT MAISIE SMITH HAS FULFILLED HIS FIRST ROUND POTENTIAL BUT STILL YOU’VE GOT 3 FIRST ROUND PICKS A SECOND ROUND PICK AD MITCHELL AND MAISIE SMITH. FIRE SALE MEANS YOU’RE JUST TAKING WHATEVER YOU CAN FOR ANYONE. IF THEY WERE DOING A FIRE SALE, THEY WOULD HAVE TRADED BREE HALL. THEY WOULD HAVE TRADED GERMAINE JOHNSON. THEY WOULD HAVE TRADED MICHAEL CLEMONS TOO AND JUST GOTTEN WHATEVER THEY COULD WRITE, RIGHT? THIS IS OFFERS, WE COULDN’T REFUSE AND THAT’S SOMETHING THAT MUJI SAID YESTERDAY, AS WELL. IF YOU’RE GOING TO OFFER THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND HAVE THESE PEACE. THEY GOT 5. FIRST ROUND PICKS OVER THE NEXT 2 YEARS. NOW, TO THEM, FOR GUYS THAT THEY DON’T VIEW AS PART OF THE LONG-TERM SOLUTION, THEN IT MAKES SENSE. BUT IT’S 1 THING TO DO IT WITH QUINN AND WILLIAMS. WHO WAS DRAFTED IN 2019? I MEAN, THE BOTTOM LINE IS HE WAS AVAILABLE. YEAH, FOR 2 FIRST ROUND PICKS, RIGHT? HE’S NOT UNTOUCHABLE. WE TALK ABOUT THAT FROM TIME TO TIME WHO’S REALLY UNTOUCHABLE SAS GARDNER ISN’T AND THE JETS. MUST NOT HAVE FELT THE WAY ABOUT HIM. THAT MAYBE THAT CONTRACT WOULD HAVE SUGGESTED AND IT JUST MAKES ME WONDER WHAT? CONCLUSIONS? THE TEAM DREW WITH AARON GLENN, A FORMER DEFENSIVE BACK RIGHT LONG TIME. DEFENSIVE COACH, WHAT DID HE PICK UP SAUCE, GARDNER, PRACTICE HABITS GAME HABITS, ALL THE THINGS THAT GO INTO THE PLAYER. THAT MADE HIM DECIDE. HEY, SOMEBODY OFFERS A COUPLE OF FIRST ROUND PICKS. THIS IS A GUY I’M WILLING TO MOVE ON FROM. YEAH, LET’S DIVE INTO THAT. I LIKE THAT, I MEAN, THAT I LET ME SEE IF I CAN HELP OUT WITH THAT CONVERSATION THERE BECAUSE I THINK THERE THERE’S A FEW THINGS THAT JUMP OUT TO MINE AS FAR AS THE PLAYERS THEY TRADED IN QUINTON WILLIAMS AND S TALKED A LOT, RIGHT? LIKE AARON GLENN, HE INHERITED THIS TEAM, YEAH, THERE’S SOME TALENT ON IT BUT IT’S A TALENT THAT’S BUILT ON SPEED AND FOR THE SEATTLE SCHEME. RIGHT, RIGHT. YOU KNOW, IT’S AND THE SEATTLE SCHEME IS A BUNCH OF GUYS, 1 GAP, SHOOT, THE GAP, CHAOS, CHAOS CHAOS, RIGHT? THAT’S WHAT IT IS. YOU SEE THE 49ERS THEY RUN THAT TYPE OF DEFENSE. SO IT’S A LITTLE MORE PREDICATED ON ATHLETICISM CHAOS THROUGH SPEED WHERE I BELIEVE AARON GLENN. HE’S COMING FROM DETROIT AND THROUGH HIS COACHING TREE IN HIS HISTORY, I BELIEVE, FIRST OFF, HE BELIEVES IN BIG PEOPLE, LIKE WE SEE IN DETROIT YOU’VE BEEN ON THE FIELD WITH DETROIT, RIGHT? WHEN WE GO OUT, THERE WE GO. LOOK AT ALL. ALL OF THEM OUT THERE. OH MY GOSH EVEN THEIR DAMN COACHES BIG, HOLY CRAP, I MEAN SO THEY BELIEVE IN THAT SO I THINK THAT THAT’S THE FIRST THING AND THE QUINN AND WILLIAMS IS MORE OF THAT, SEATTLE SCHEME, DEFENSIVE TACKLE. SO THEY GET RID OF HIM BECAUSE I THINK THEY WANT SPACE HEATERS. YOU LOOK AT THE D TACKLES OR THE DETROIT LIONS, THEY’RE BIG, HUGE. YOU CAN’T MOVE US. TYPE OF GUYS, THEN YOU GET OUT TO THE OUTSIDE. WHAT’S THE 1 THING? YOU’VE HEARD ME SAY ABOUT SAUCE GARDENER SINCE HE’S GOTTEN IN THE NFL, HE’S NOT REALLY A GREAT MAN-TO-MAN ISLAND CORNER. THAT’S NOT WHO HE IS, RIGHT? HE, HE’S GOOD AT MAN-TO-MAN, DON’T GET ME WRONG, BUT HE WAS PERFECT FOR THAT SEATTLE, SCHEME OF, YOU KNOW, JAM SOMEBODY AT THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE AND THEN BACK OFF, DON’T LET PEOPLE GO OVER THE TOP OF YOU MAYBE IT’S LIKE HEY, JAM THEM, DON’T LET THEM GET INSIDE OF YOU AND THAT WAS BASICALLY ALL HE HAD TO DO AND THIS SCHEME WITH AARON, GLENN, DETROIT LIONS AND WHAT THEY DO, AND WHAT THEY DID WITH HIM, THEY LIKE TO PLAY MAN-TO-MAN. THEY WANT TO GET IN YOUR FACE AND WE KNOW AARON GLENN LIKES TOTAL CORNERS WHO LIKE TO TACKLE AND DO ALL THAT TOO AND I DON’T THINK THOSE ARE 2 OF THE STRENGTHS FOR SAUCE GARDENER NECESSARILY. SO I THINK BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, YEAH NOT FITTING IN THEIR SCHEME AND WHAT THEY’RE LOOKING TO DO WITH THEIR FOOTBALL TEAM IN THE FUTURE. PLUS LIKE YOU SAID THOSE TRADES WERE JUST TOO GOOD TO TURN DOWN AND ALL IT. AND WENT. WAIT, THEY DON’T FIT OUR FUTURE PLANS. WE DON’T REALLY LIKE THE MOLD OF THESE GUYS ANYWAYS, AND DAN.

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32 comments

  1. Die Hard Jets fan here that grew up watching Aaron Glenn. He’s not a big guy, I think 5’9 5’10. But he was a ball hawk. Game changer and best corner on those Jets team, alongside Marcus Coleman who was bigger. Not about size with Ahmad Gardner. He’s overrated. He’s not a ball hawk & not a good tackler. He’s just tall and fast & can stay in front of Receivers. He’s no Revis & I’m happy he’s gone. Q. Williams, sad he’s gone. Great player, will be missed

  3. Yeah because the Jets have never tried this plan in the past, lmao. Woody is like Trump, nothing but broken promises followed by more promises. What a bunch of losers, next year when Glenn gets fired and Hall traded away we will get more draft picks to draft players they can blame their misfortunes on and then trade away for more picks, repeat, recycle reuse, take your money.

  5. Serious long-time JETS fans are ecstatic over this move. JETS won both trades.

    Gonna be a long rebuild but this is the absolute correct path, set up to draft a QB in 2027 and also is a big vote for long-term Aaron Glenn being the HC

    Sauce cannot tackle and relies on uncalled PI for most of his tight coverages.

    This is a grown-up-in-the-room type of move for the JETS

  6. They have a 5 year plan without a QB at this point, there will be few starters left if things work out in 5 years with likely a new coach/GM. This is a good trade deal because a team who do not have cap issues, because they stink, pick up the signing bonus which looks like $30M. The cap is probably worth part of a 1st round pick, because Super Bowl contenders end up not resigning starters over cap.

  11. Here is the summary with these two "superstar" players the Jets and the last 27 games are 5- 22. They collectively make roughly 30,000,000 each again. The record is five and 22. I don't believe anymore is needed to be said.

  23. The Colts were fleeced. They gave up two first rounders for a guy who gets concussed every other time he tackles someone. One great year and dogged the rest. Aaron Glenn, the former corner, saw something he didn't like.

  24. I don't think it was anything bad about Sauce that made AG pull the trigger on this trade. Mougey has done a great job rebuilding the back end of this defense with thew signing of Brandon Stephens, the drafting of AZ Thomas, and the trade for Jarvis Brownlee. Someone offers you 2 firsts and a potential starting WR, you have to take it.

  27. The reason Sauce and Quinnen were traded was the Jets received offers that would have been insane to refuse. They were gonna keep Sauce but Quinnen wanted out It's that simple.

  29. Sauce, just isn't a Glenn type player. He's a nice guy, who is very talented, but he is not very physical player. AG needs DN's who can support the run and tackle, as well as cover, like Sauce. The right deal was offered and bow they can draft and have enough CAP space to bring in the right players on both sides of the ball.

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