Darius Garland makes his season debut, the Jets don’t have a QB & the Browns can prove us wrong

Darius Garland makes his season debut, the Jets don’t have a QB & the Browns can prove us wrong

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Uh, Tupac McNuggets. We We got all We got it all. But by the way, we promised that we can’t um we don’t snitch anyway. So even if we heard anything, we we didn’t hear nothing. I don’t even know who you is. Every man got to have a code. Yes, it did. Yes, it did. Every man got to have a code, fellas. Man, this is We get this once a year. Yeah, this is beautiful, man. ACP edition. I don’t know how how did they let you get the the front the front bandana all So So funny story. So, I woke up this morning and as I was getting dressed, I was like I was looking at my hair cuz you know I got the hair transplant and I was like, man, it’s like making a ton of progress and I haven’t showed the people my progress, but I’ve been wearing a hat. So, I was like, you know what? Let me show people like what’s going on with my hair and stuff. How my hairline starting to come. So, I was like, you know, you rocking the sponge and everything. Yeah, I got up through the sponge on there today. I’m like, you know what it is. You know what I’m saying? It ain’t all the way there yet, but like it’s it’s it’s coming soon. Hey man, I’m I’m happy for you. It’s like listen, it’s it’s almost like a chia pet. You’d be like, “Man, look at my little chia pet on the side growing in. Bro, this is crazy. Let me water that in, man. Let me put it in the light.” Earl, it’s kind of like when you get your locks and you start to get a little hang time like But because right here, you got the mysticals like, you know what I’m saying? And then when you get here, the mystical when my hair got like right here, I couldn’t stop shaking my head. Like you I was shaking my hair all the time. Like all the time. Like you couldn’t man listen you could you couldn’t get me to set up at all. They say that’s how people is when they get their first tat. Like they get their first t you just be sitting there just putting ointment on looking at it and whatnot. And you say you be tatted up and whatnot. I got my first tat on Christmas break my senior year of high school. I went back to school in January with my uh uniform sleeve all rolled up. Look, the cross was crooked at the bottom. Like hey, full disclosure, man. your first tattoo. Go to a professional tattoo artist. I got my first half for $50 at a UCLA motel, man. True story. This is You said a motel. Uclid motel. Somebody You didn’t think that was sketchy? I mean, this is what 2005, 2006. Everything is sketchy. Do you roll with the punches? Do you know how many first times you got at the Ucla Motel? First time you stole a watch. first time the DVD dude rolled up on you and thought you was going to get shot, but he just had DVDs. The first the first time that you pulled up and it was a house party in the Uclip Motel, like what are you guys doing? Was from EC so I was cool like and I was with him so like EC is a small community and if you from EC like you know people kind of it’s a stereotype to go with that you don’t mess with people from EC and I mean but you usually I was a senior in high school I got a letterman coat you got your first tattoo like how did that work? Like, did you just come to the crib like, “Yeah, tatted up.” Parents ain’t got to sign off. They ain’t got to sign off on you. I got in trouble. Like, I got talked to. My mother like, “Who the hell you think you is, boy?” Like, just cuz you 18, you still under live under my roof. So, like my mother used to always move the gold post. First is you can’t do this till you turn 18. You turn 18. Well, you still live in my house. You graduate from high, you still live in my house. Like, man, damn. I had a guy with you. I had a guy named Shout out to Marcus Daniels. like he I don’t know how he had he had a car and driver’s license in middle school like I don’t know what middle school he’s like he’s like 16 he was driving like and it was wild work and then like we would go over his house and play like video games right but he had his own little like suite downstairs and I’m like what do you mean he was like yeah my somebody knocked on the basement door his dad came down his dad’s name was Shorty he was like Marcus he was an old school dude he’d be going to the gamblers Marcus turn down that And he’s like, “Man, you better knock the next time you come down here.” I said, “Whoa, what?” He said that to his dad. I said, “What is y’all got a partnership? Is is you guys I’m confused. Is you you subleasasing from this man?” And and and and Yeah. So his dad had a girlfriend. His dad had a girlfriend. Oh, he was a player. She she was like 15 years younger than him. So like I’m like, “This is wild work.” Like, but you know what I’m saying? But we’d be down there. So Marcus would be just like he got a lot of stuff off like he he was old. He was old and then he would go sit at the McDonald’s in the morning like with all the old veterans with a paper like he’d be in the McDonald’s at 17 year old. Yeah, man. I got a lot of running around to do G Bush. I’mma link up with you probably about you know what I’m saying 3:00 p.m. I got some stuff to do in the morning. I said bro, we got school. See 17 what? Worse. Both y’all know Thaddius is Gibson, right? Yeah. Right. So like me and Thad, I didn’t have known Thad my whole life. We went to elementary school together. Right. So Thad come to school fifth grade. Fifth grade with a tattoo that say TRU. It was fifth grade. It was supposed to say TRG his initials, right? But this is when No Limit was hot and TRU was the new little spin-off group. Whoever that I told you everybody had like bootleg tattoo artist when we was kids. What? Dude put TRU on his arm instead of TRG. Shout out to him. I hope he got that covered. Shout out to Shout out to him, man. That was walking around in fifth grade looking like he was supposed to be in ninth grade. I kid you not. This is like that’s that’s the I you know I would probably where I grew up I would probably get picked on in Cleveland public schools. Like I like I probably No, no, no, no, no. See, if you go to Cleveland public school, one thing you will learn is how to joke. You better or you better come with some jokes. You won’t make it. You got to have some like this is you better ask like how you funny now hopefully like if you would have went to a Cleveland public school boy you better be funny. I just got this assurb they on you man. But I will say that’s why with two teams. You see that? I don’t like that team up game. Look look at this man. I see that Garrett. Garrett. You know what? Listen. I ain’t about to let nobody name Garrett disrespect me. I’m saying this is this this how it happens. This why we stay in Canton. We don’t mess with these dudes up here. Now, I I will say this. I always laugh. The great thing greatest thing about coming from city schools and schools where you you know what it is is you get older and then people be talking about pressure. You be like pressure? Who you talking about pressure? Like I got to figure out if I want to stand up for myself. I’m like cuz I don’t have any weapons. Like I know he got I know he got weapons. Hey man, this brother’s got weapons. Mama, how I’mma move with this? Like I can’t bring the Bible and pray it out of them. Like what’s going on with this? Like I got to decide if I would stand up. I’mma stand up like like So now when we get here and we adults, I’m like pressure. I don’t know what y’all talking about. But here here’s the problem though. Like if you don’t stand up for yourself, then you can’t get grown and then all of a sudden start standing up for yourself. People going to pour you out on that, man. You didn’t do that 25 years ago. M. There you go. I listen. This is what happens. Uh we just we just telling it. Tell them. Hey, real quick, man, before we get into it. Hey, Mike, you got that picture for me? Yeah. Start talking. We’ll throw it up. Yeah, man. So, today uh it’s my grandfather’s birthday. I wanted to wish my grandfather, Willie Earl Rimmer, Senior, a happy heavenly birthday, man. Shout out to my guy. He passed away when I was 17 years old. Um that was just my dude, man. And so, anytime I get a chance to like like do something significant, that’s me and him when I was a baby boy. Uh so, yeah. Shout out to my grandfather, man. Happy heavenly birthday. My Scorpio homie. Uh fun fact, my mother told me that I was actually she was actually uh her due date was his birthday 116. I came 10 days later. So man, you know what? Shout out to a fellow Scorpio Earl. What happened, bro? What you mean what happened? You see I had an eyebrow forever. You was nice back then. You just harden now. You just you look like you look like you had life about you. Like you was innocent, huh? 35 years before the Browns drain. Hey, just innocent. I get the I get the answer all in no offense, Rodney. I was innocent, man. This is crazy. That shout out to the Shout out to your pops, man. And all the Earls, the Earl Seniors. Earl, how many Earls is it in your family? On my mom’s side. Whatever. Mike, every in America comes from the Malden family. Yeah, he met them all. Like Mike told me after the fact, he like, “Bro, how many is it?” That’s why I always use my middle initial, right? See? Yeah. Like my cousin ain’t going to get no money off off my name, bro. Like, ain’t no way, my boy. Well, listen. Uh, now that we wasted about 7 to 8 minutes of your life. Here we go. Here we go. No, that was not wasted. That was time well spent. Uh, also guys, we got some Cavs on the show today. We got some Browns uniforms at the end, by the way. I think it’s a topic we’re going to have a lot of fun with with you guys in particular on the panel. But let’s dive into the Cavs. Went over the 76ers last night. The Cavs topic of the day is brought to you guys by Fanville. The NBA season is here and FanDuel has an offer you don’t want to miss. Right now, new customers can bet $5, get 300 in bonus bets if you win. That’s right. Pick a bet, put down five bucks, and if it hits, you unlock $300 in bonus bets to use across the app. So, what are you waiting for? Visit fanuel.com/uss to download the FanDuel app today and get things started, guys. Darius Garland made his return to the lineup last night for Cleveland. The Cavs offense looked as good as it has all season, not just from the eye test, but the numbers back it up. G Earl, Ty, and Ty, I want to start with you because Darius is your guy, but what did you make of this new look Cavs offense with their all-star point guard back in the fold before you before you go, let me just shake your hand. Thank you. I appreciate that. Shake your business casual. I appreciate that. All right. You know, it it started from the the tip, you I mean the ball just swings a little bit more when you that that is kind of crazy. Let me let me start let’s let me shake your hand. You got to do the the the men in black. Yeah. Never mind that. Yeah. It started from when the game started. You know what I’m saying? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Earl, how about you go first? Call out a line, man. This why y’all this why we don’t get this panel because of y’all. I’m trying to be professional here. There we go. Let’s go. You got it. The very first thing that that that stood out to me was the floor spacing, right? Like the floor spacing just looked much better with DG out there, man. I thought overall as a team, they were efficient and you can see just like his playmaking ability and how it opens up everything for everybody else. It seemed like uh the Cavs got easier uncontested shots than they did, you know, when he was out. I thought overall, if I was to give him a grade, I give him a B+. you know, he struggled from the field, but that’s to be expected. Uh he turned the ball over a couple times, but outside of that, man, he handed out some dimes. He put people in position to have a bigger impact on the overall game, and he was able to get his feet wet and get some buckets himself. So, played 26 minutes, came out of it feeling pretty good, looking pretty good. So, that’s something that you could build off of. I would give Darius a B+ for his uh season debut. All right. Now, you re received your turn back. Um you are now composed. There you go. Tus your thoughts on Darius Garland. I just think that The Rock definitely got passed around a lot. I think that stop it got passed around a lot. He found open man. I think that one of the guys that benefit the most I seen Sam Miro get like two threes off of his assist. I also seen uh Jared Allen also for some odd reason they’ve always had this good chemistry where like those two guys get the ball and for some reason he can find him. Um yeah, as as far as the scoring goes, I knew that he wasn’t going to come out there and drop 20 in the first game. I mean, that takes some time to get your rhythm back, but it was nice to see him knock that that tray down early in the game to kind of get itself going. And it’s just the offense, everybody just, you could tell like people are getting their shots. Like it didn’t, yes, Donovan finished with a bunch of points, but to me, it didn’t come off as the Donovan show. Like it was like other guys was Moy was hitting Trey, you know, you got uh all these guys coming in and out of the lineup being productive, and I just thought it was just good to see that ball just swinging around. Yeah. I the reason I shook your hand earlier is because I’ve come to the conclusion, you know, I I’m a person that’s been hard on Darius Garland, right? Um, you know, especially the last two seasons, it, you know, turns out, uh, you know, he was injured. Uh, he didn’t perform up to up to standard. It just seems like he he was always wanting a little more. We wanted a little more. When he we needed him, he wasn’t there. Now, listen, he can’t control that. Had surgery on his toe. Um, but one thing that I I have to say is even though he had eight points, even though he didn’t have a great shooting night, the thing that was readily available from the get-go and from the jump streak was the simple fact that the the the offense worked. When you take him out of the offense and when you have other guys trying to fill in that role, Donovan uh is great. We’ll get to him in in a moment. But the ball movement and the way that they go about getting the ball and the ball has energy. I always look at how much your bigs get into involved. Anytime Jared Allen got 20 plus points that that means, you know, somebody is getting him involved. Evan both took uh 17 shots. Man, Jared Allen pulled a trade twice, right? The first one I was like I text I hit the chat like the J was just full of I mean with conviction like it was no thought about it like I’ve been doing this the first one was at the shot clock the sec No it was 4 seconds left he had time he caught it in the court what okay what about the second one there’s no excuse outrageous and you know what’s funny I tweeted this out last night Ty the Cavs in the first quarter had their best offensive quarter of the season I I would argue they had two of their best offensive possessions they’ve had all year in DJ’s first stint. 41 points. They got to the rim more. They took fewer threes. We could clearly see two things that led to their offensive explosion. You tell me what you believe had more impact. Darius’s return or Jared Allen taking two threes. I don’t know. I don’t know. Uh, listen. What’s crazy is remember last week we was talking about how like the old school center don’t work no more and we was we we literally brought up Andre Drummit’s name. Andre Drummit hit a trade last night with a straight face and then was like he definitely did do that. I’m like, “Oh, this see man, we all know what happened to Jared when uh when we played the Knicks and then I think uh Mike brought it out, you know, he kind of like Kenny Ason kind of got in his ass after that game.” The next night, pause the the next game against the against the Brooklyn Nets. Remember when he had the putback dunk or the dunk and he came down the court and he was flexing ever since he did that flex after that dunk? Jared, I have been a different man when he out here, man. Secretly, I’ve been DMing him and saying High School Musical is terrible. like he he he’s he’s t he’s got him hit him up. I got to get him fired up for the game. He’s been tapering he tapered his throw. He tapered his fro. It looked like he got lined up in the back a little. I’m trying to get him. I’m trying to make you know he need to go ahead and break break that thing. He listen when he all jokes society he he when Darius Garland’s in the spacing is different. And when you’re a big McNuggets, you know this. When you’re a big and you are you’re a guy that’s a glue guy or a glorified garbage guy who’s who needs to play defense, bring energy and intensity and hit the boards and play and block shots. Sometimes you you can find yourself running up and down the court 3, four, five, six, 25 possessions of the road. The ball never gets to you. The ball never touches your hands. And so when you get guys involved early like like a Jared Allen and they get an opportunity, they feel more involved in the game and that and boost and and it and improves their defensive effort. They block they block more shots, they do more things. Also, I I started to see this as well. Uh Darius Garland also helps guys like Sam Merrill. I love the fact Sam Merrill when when it’s a when when it’s on a transition, he’s running right to the three-point line. And so now you got an opportunity where now Darius Garland can either finish at the rim or at least put pressure on the defense or kick it to Sam Merrill and they they had a lot of hockey. It’s just moving the ball around. Uh real quick, we talked yesterday in the show about when Darius comes back, it should make everyone else kind of fall into their own role, right? Everyone plays something they’re more traditionally accustomed to playing. We talked about and Jason mentioned yesterday, the Cavs were attempting the second fewest shots within 5T. of shots at the rim in the league behind only Boston. They were averaging 22 shots at the rim. Last night, 32, a 10% jump that puts them from 28th in the league or 29th in the league up to around 121 13 depending on the rest of the results from last night. So, a significant increase. Ty, as you mentioned with Jared Allen, you may have to talk smack about High School Musical before the game to get him engaged, right? Fact. Well, Donovan had an incredible game last night. And in case anyone missed it, this is what Donovan said inspired him to have his best offensive performance of the year. Let’s hear from Donovan after last night’s win. I wouldn’t put the game that I had based on the court. I This kid pissed me off today. I was playing 2K. I’ve been playing 2K for like two hours and I I told him too. I was like, “Wait, just wait.” He just called me washed up. He called me a bunch of things, but I I love it. You know what I mean? Um he said he ain’t seen a highlight for me in a minute and I just told him all right we’ll see. He said tell me to go to sleep like he he was going in. So this game was uh for that for that kid or grown man whoever that was. Um but so I appreciate you. I I told him I give him a shout out too. So that’s what tonight was. Hey Donovan, do you remember the 2K trash talk username? I didn’t want to give him that. I’m not going to give him all that. No. No. I’m not give I’m not giving him that much attention, but he knows who he is. Um, it was a it was a long long game, long discussion. We were going back and forth. Um, he probably clipped it, too, so it might be on the internet or somewhere, but I made sure that um I gave him his props for that. I appreciate it. All right. So, well, I I’m going say that that might be true, but that’s not all the way why he went off. First of all, one them kids they ruthless mean like especially on 2K and Call of Duty like they are disrespectful. So sometimes you got like Kendrick you got to pop out and show people sometimes that so this might be a little truth but really there’s only one thing that really motivates a man especially when you playing basketball to go out and just ball. Coco Jones was at the game last night, ladies and gentlemen. And I seen I seen a picture of her on Twitter or X. All I can say is I see you, bro. I see you. That’s one of the ones that you just stop and you just salute a man. That that right there, that’s a woman right there. If Coco Jones showed up to my games, here we go. Heisman. Uh oh. DPY. What? That’s what I’m just I’m just telling you the truth. This is wild work. Just saying. This is crazy. Rose Bush, I had nothing to do with this. Y’all know I I wasn’t even here. That’s like Rihanna showing up to the game. You going to be like Rihanna at the game. I will say this. Let me I’m going to talk to you about this. Um shout out to my lovely wife. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to her. Yeah. She she got that. She not going to play. I didn’t say I was going to get with her. She not going to play with you. Just said that I you know it’s going to cost you. He said, “It’s go.” Now, now I will say this. I think it’s disrespectful. And can we say this out loud loud the talk and I know what y’all feel. I get it. The Evan Mobley over Donovan Mitchell for them to win a championship. He has to become the best player. He has to be That ain’t happening, folks. Y’all know how I feel about that. That is not happening. And it’s no knock against Evan Mobley. It’s just a knock against how how under we underestimate the value of what Donovan Mitchell is and how good he is. He is one of the Well, you don’t. I’ll give you that. I don’t. But th this notion that Evan Mobley has to be. He He cannot be better than Don Mitchell. It’s not possible. It’s just not like I just I I was mad. I was sitting there. I was looking at the TV like, “Hold on. Where was you when I said this a week ago at the Hold on.” I said, “Hold on now. There’s no way he’s getting that off ever. This dude, look at him. He just doing what he want to. This dude is one of the most talented guards under 6’2 to ever play in the NBA. It’s the efficiency as well. Like that’s the most efficient 46-point game I think I might have seen in quite some time. You shoot 15 to 21 from the field, including six three-pointers, and then you find a way to hand out eight dimes at the same time. You don’t think Evan could pull that? No. That’s god 15 to 21. That’s goddamn a he ain’t going 15 to 21. You crazy. Like like look at the efficiency though. And what’s crazy is this is how you you could tell like when it’s time for him to flip that switch and and be this bucket getter to get us to where we need to be to win games. He can do that. But he also know how to pick those moments when to get others involved. We talk about early on in the game when we talk about Darius Garland knocking down that early three. Donovan passed open a wideopen jump shot just to get Darius involved early on to get him going. And we talk about him being a selfless superstar. We talk about all these different components to who Donovan Mitchell is. Like having that that gauge of your teammates and when to go and when to get others involved, etc. Like it takes a whole lot more than just, you know, like checking these boxes on the court to be that dude. He that dude, man. McNug McNuggets, out of curiosity, what is what is uh Donovan shooting from the free throw line right now if you tell me 90%. I uh I can pull it up for you right now. Hold on. He in the 50 40 90 CL. Now remember, he’s shooting the best he’s ever shot in his career. So it would not surprise me from the free throw line. He is 82% right now. Dang. So let me let me remind y’all. I I got laughed out out of the building when when I was told I said, “Man, Don Mitchell was a legit MVP candidate.” It’s like you got SGA. There’s no G. He’s Do you see what Luke is doing right now? I don’t care. Uh Luke, you ready for this? I don’t care. You don’t see all these C’s on my hat. G, they showed this on the uh broadcast last night. And I’m looking up what Luca did right now. He was the first player through four games to ever average 40 points, 10 rebounds, seven assists. Yeah, that’s crazy. Through four games. So, pull up Donovan’s numbers real quick. Pull up Donovan’s numbers. That’s crazy. Donovan has been incred Let me let me preface. He has been incredible. Steve, you want to take this full? Luke is averaging 40, 10, and seven. Jesus. Jesus. You see what I’m saying? Wait, it ain’t wait. It ain’t done. 40. You 40 points, 10 rebounds, and seven assists. Yes. Last night, his averageing that. So, after five games, so he played last night, he’s averaging 40, 11, and 9.2 right now. That was after last night. But, but he got the bad body though. No, he don’t. Oh, he ain’t shaving now. Listen, during this season, I need to see him play a whole what’s the name? I want no calf strains. I don’t want no back. He just came back from injury. Well, listen. I’m just saying. Technically, the Lakers going to have to win a lot of games. They better be in in the in the league with with 50 60 games. And he going to have to play a lot of games. To be fair, he has to have those stats right now for the Lakers to win. Facts. cuz Braun Well, hey, Austin Arson Reed is doing his thing, but he’s not there right now. So, they got a bunch of they got they got I got I’m about to say they definitely got the So, I was thinking about this, bro, and I wanted to see, you know, about a 10 game sample size. We ain’t at 10 games yet, but you look at Donovan Mitchell’s numbers, you look at his usage rate, you look at everything that he’s doing early on this year. Don’t say nothing crazy. And you I ain’t I ain’t going to get crazy. Okay. last year we both know like he sacrificed a lot for the benefit of others to kind of step up and do what they needed to do and it didn’t turn out the way that we all thought it it should turn out. Do you think any of that has to uh plays a part into how early like he flipped that switch because me and you know like he been kind of been told to sit down somewhere since like August, right? And it just seems like he’s in mid-season form already. He’s shooting at a pace that’s unsustainable, frankly. Listen, he’s shooting 58% from the floor. That’s crazy. For his career, it’s a 44% shooter. He’s shooting 46% from three on nine and a half attempts per game. He’s a 37 career three-point shooter. Like, he shoot nine and a half trays a game. Yeah. And he’s making almost 50%. He’s been absurd. Jeez. I think numbers are going to go down just cuz right now he’s on an absolute heater. And there’s nothing wrong with that. I just think long-term like that’s unsustainable numbers. The guard that shoots at his volume has never shot 58% from the floor. That’s like Giannis numbers, like frankly. And Yiannis doesn’t shoot jump shots. So, think about it like that. But right now, he’s seeing the game. Whoa. Whoa. Giannis turnaround game winner. What you talking about? Oh my god. I don’t know what I did to myself. I don’t even know why you did it, man. That’s my bad. I apologize. But the reality is like Donovan’s playing as good as he ever has in his career. Earl, his usage is lower than it’s ever been. And more importantly, Donovan said last night, I’m not trying to attack the rim and finish vertically like I have in the past. My body does not have the ability to sustain the wear and tear of trying to finish over guys. Now, he’s getting to the rim less, but he’s getting to the paint more. So, he’s in that mid-range area. And you look watch him do the little sham god move, the crab dribble, whatever you want to call that little scoop he does that gets to his floaters. Over the long run of the season, Donovan taking 50 floaters as opposed to trying to jump into a big man and finish through contact is going to be very beneficial to withstanding this level of play and avoiding any soft tissue injuries, any major injuries because he’s playing smarter than he ever has. And if he’s shooting like he is right now, the number is going to be absurd. He’s on pace for another AllNBA first team caliber season. So, so the qu the question is the only question is are we going to move him ahead of Kyrie Irving in terms of the Pantheon or the Cavs? When he win a championship, he’s got to win something first. I’m just, you know what I’m saying? I’m looking at player for player. The greatest shot in Cavs history. I’m just saying. I’m just saying, you know, player for player like skill for skill. Is he better than Kyrie Irving? No. You don’t think you’re better than Kyrie, man? No. What you got to say? Four, five. No. Listen, man. You got the four five on you. Skill for skill over Kyrie for Kyrie Irving. And this is no shade despite spider. My guy Kyrie Irving is probably one of the most skilled basketball players I ever seen in my entire life. Like my entire life. I think it’s disrespectful that somebody in the Cleveland Cavaliers uniform even gets the opportunity to dawn a number two jersey. Like that should be retired. Like should nobody be wearing that? So you standing on business. I ask you a question. Who you got? spider or or right now the top three. Right now the top three is LeBron, Kyrie, Spider. Okay, I like what you said. Let’s ask Zack Jackson because Zach Loki is a hoops head even though he likes to come around. We’re going to bring Zack in after a quick word from game time. Guys, the NFL season is back and honestly there’s nothing better than being in the stadium surrounded by fans cheering on your favorite team. 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Are you um are you surprised uh nothing happened? Uh I would say mildly surprised. You know, I thought they would dump off a couple of guys. I didn’t think they’d ever pull off anything major, but I thought that maybe one more. You know, it wasn’t a surprising trade, right? He’s on a one-year deal. He’s not playing. But I thought of Jerome Ford, Shelby Harris, and potentially David Njoku because I just don’t see how David Njoku is in this team’s plans going forward. He’s been replaced by a younger, better player. Yeah. You know, and it’s complicated because of his contract because they’ve invested in him many times. Yeah. But more than likely, David Njoku going forward is going to be dead money for the Cleveland Browns. 24 million next year. Yeah, I’m glad you brought him up because obviously he was very passionate about Cleveland and you know how he’s not leaving and all those things. Is this is this the last year on this deal? Yes. Will they resign him? If Seattle would have extended you three times, would you be sitting there being pretty passionate about Seattle? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I’m pretty passionate about Seattle. Hey, let him let let him have a guest appearance weekly. He’ll be right back. He ain’t talking about like I ain’t never leaving and I’m just thinking like Yeah, that’s David. He’s he brings that kind of energy when he wants to. Okay. You know, look, I I thought he could still play. He doesn’t run the way he used to, but he could still play. I thought some team would look and say like this is a guy that gets to the middle of the field and has a presence. Whether they did or didn’t, what the asking price was, I don’t know. But I think the Browns were like, let’s see how this works out. There’s just so much uncertain, right? He’s probably not in the future plans, but we really don’t know. And you know, they’re going to change play callers. The new guy is the tight end’s coach from last year. When this offense has worked, right, David and Jooku’s been a part of it. Like, if they’re going to make something out of these next few games, then it’s probably going to be both Fan and Anjoku catching a lot of passes. You know, uh Wyatt Teller was somebody else that was passionate and happy about still being in Cleveland. He too mentioned uh being hoping that he gets a contract extension. Uh do you think Wyatt Teller is somebody that’s going to be back? I think it has to be a priority. I mean, all five starters on the offensive line do not have a contract for next year. So, they’re all at 30 or above. Uh, but Wyatt has stayed healthy. Wyatt’s a good player. And I mean, they’re gonna have to bring one of them back, right? Joel’s probably going to retire. It’s probably not going to be Jack Conklin. It’s almost certainly not Cam Robinson. Makes the most sense that it’s Wyatt Teller. So, speaking of Wyatt, he also said about Tommy Reese calling plays. He said, you know, you won’t see too much that’s different as far as like the plays that’s being called or or anything. elaborate on that on exactly what he meant because yesterday we talked about will it look different and he said it won’t well because they’ve been in practice since May you know it’s it’s this offense and you tweak it every week and obviously this needs but I think more than anything this was just looking for a spark right Kevin Stfansky has played his cards as a head coach another offensive coordinator change a second year in a row of giving up play calling he’s made the other changes right this offense is bad it’s bottom five in almost every category so you come out of the by-week what do you you have to play Dylan Gabriel right now. That’s what they’ve chosen. They don’t necessarily have to, but that’s what they’ve chosen. They’re trotting out every week the worst wide receiving core in the league, right? So, what do what is there left to change? That’s that’s the one card he could play. We’ll see what it matters. And people have speculated the fact that obviously he he did make the change at coordinator. He’s going to give a play called it two years in a row. What do you make of people saying that means that it signifies it being him more safe than what he would be? Because he he wouldn’t give up play calling if he thought he was on a hot seat. I don’t know. I don’t know if I translate it that way, G. Um, so who’s safe? What I mean, they shouldn’t feel safe, first of all. No one should, and no one should feel comfortable. But you are at the by-week. You are looking at this situation where you brought in Tommy Reese for a reason. You made this change for a reason. So, what stands out as it doing it the second year in a row? But what does it mean about what Kevin Stfansky feels? I don’t know. And I feel like we’ve been saying this in some form since September. But let’s see in four weeks where it is. Did it did it spark anything? You know, did does he feel safe then when it comes time and it’s coming to change quarterbacks and play the next guy, whoever it is, it’s probably Shidor Sanders, you know. Then what does the head coach do and what is the vibe of is he doing it for himself? Is he doing it for the future? Is he doing it because he’s forced to? Right now, I don’t know. you know, they’re they’re back. They’re getting ready for a game, and it’s a game they should win. It’s not a game they can win. It’s a game they should win. Yeah. And frankly, if they win, then it sets them up to play in another game that means something in this demolition derby of a division. So, let’s see. And the New York Jets, who traded away their best two defensive players and who are clearly playing for the future, so are the Browns, but the Browns go there and win. It’s more than a band-aid, you know. It’s it sets up a huge huge game in Cleveland next Sunday. Would you say that what the Browns have done these past two seasons is the definition of insanity? 26 seasons. Is that what you said? Yeah, right. One line key. I didn’t hear you for a second. Don DeMarco. Why are you doing this? Because I’ve lived it, Tyus. Cuz I started working for the Browns in the year 2000. You gota you got to let it go. and they fired the coach that at the end of the year that year and it’s just been this cycle. I’m just saying like they didn’t you went out there and like last year you gave up play calling that didn’t work. This year you gave up play calling that didn’t work. You kept the same receivers. You didn’t change a lot of stuff on the offensive side. Like isn’t that insanity? Yeah. I mean Garrett, I I’ve said all along I think the construction of the offense is a bigger problem than the coaching, right? And I just think when you look at the combination of things, how they’ve only had the same offensive line in two games out of eight, right? How they’ve had Judkins in and they’ve had Judkins out. They’ve got consistently nothing from the wide receivers. Like that there’s that that is a bigger problem than the coaching. So this to me is is just a spark. It’s just a little band-aid. It’s just something. What What will it change? I don’t know. would if they would have made a trade for a Garrett Wilson or Chris Olive or Jaylen Wadd, what would have been what would you have looked at and said that’s too much? I mean, anything in the first two rounds because this this is a long-term rebuild. Like this is a 2027 rebuild even when you look at the cat money and the roster like they next year are probably going to be worse. There’s 14 rookies on this team. So out of 53 guys next year, at least 25 of them are going to be first and second year players. So you would love to add four more studs, right? And you would love Swissinger and these guys to be going up. But you have no idea what your offensive line’s going to be. You have no idea if you can fix the wide receiver group. And unless it’s just one hit, it’s probably not going to be more than one. And you have no idea what your quarterback’s going to be. I got I I got a proposal for you. I thought about this yesterday. What if the Browns traded? I don’t know what it would take. I don’t think it would be that high, but let’s say they traded for like M. Jones and then drafted wide receiver, two wide receivers and an offensive lineman with their first three picks. Okay. Who’s playing the other three offensive line? Well, that’s we got to cross that bridge. Listen, we need playmakers first. Okay. That’s an argument. The Cincinnati thought this out. The Cincinnati Bengals showed you that the offensive line thing is overrated. Yeah. So, and Joe showing you that now. So, technically, we need to address the playmakers, right? So, when you get a quarterback that’s in rehab right now, you go to San Francisco, Minnesota, or the Rams to go to like quarterback school rehab, then when you come out of there, like you really good. Yeah. So, so how do what looks like a good offense a year from now? Judkins on the ascent, Fannon on the ascent, just average quarterback play. Carnell Tate and someone else, right? Like you can make a case that that’s an ascending offense. Is it a good one? No. But is it bottom five in every single category? Probably not. So you’re you might be on to something there. But but the problem with the tackle spots is those are long. Like history says you draft your tackles early and you hit the right one and that guy’s your tackle for four years or 10 years. Not everybody’s Joe Thomas, but like getting a tackle who you give a second contract to and he’s your answer. That just solidifies things. that allows you to use your other assets to go chase wide receivers, running backs, playmakers. Like I love Harold Fannon and if he was on a better offense, he’d be even better. And he’s 21 years old and four years ago was playing high school safety. Like he’s just learned. Imagine putting him out there with better. You’re on to something there. But at the core of it in the AFC North, like you need to have an offensive line, right? And and the Ravens have struggled with it and the Steelers, I think, are figuring it out. Who knows what their quarterback is in future, but the Browns have no future right now on the offensive line. Went to the Super Bowl with no line. They did. they they their line was a little better than it is now. So, let me ask you this because we’ve seen the goalpost move on who they think the guy is, quote unquote, coming out of this draft. In your opinion, which quarterback draft uh projected draft is better, the 26 class or the 2027 class? Probably 27 because 26 just doesn’t look good. Like, it’s not been a good season for those guys. So, you know, there there’s four really big games left in the college regular season. there’s a whole postseason and the Big 10 championship, frankly, should be Mendoza’s try out for the number one spot against the number one defense in the country, right? So, so we’ll see that. And then like is Len North Cellers going to come out? Is Nusmeire going to be healthy? There’s all these questions and we’ll be back in January talking about them. Um, it’s a valid question, but I think what the Jets did is probably like a little little jolt to like, hey, they’re playing for two drafts down the road. Now, that’s not to say they won’t take one and they might have the number one or two pick, but they might be playing for two drafts down the road when it comes to the quarterback. Yeah. I just, you know, it’s it’s it’s frustrating because, you know, I I was sitting at home and we were going through this the circular argument of it, right? Um I’ve always said that you should judge the quarterback on the field. The problem I always have is there’s never a a critique of okay, let’s talk about Dylan Gabriel on his merits, right? And just Well, that’s a short conversation there. You see, this is why you cooking. I was trying to be nice today. I was trying to be nice. He is out of line. But what I’m saying that Zach is is it it frustrates me because for you to talk about the 27 or 26 class, right? that means that you you already got a eye to the future, right? But for some people, it seems like if you have a eye to the future to see what the backup quarterback can do that people think has a more of a upside than a guy that’s that’s sitting there in the position now, it’s a it’s oh, we can’t do that because it’ll ruin him. And I’m like, well guys, have you not seen the guy that’s playing right now? It doesn’t look like he’s playing well. He’s not ruined. I I don’t understand what the what the apprehensiveness is to say, look, we gonna we play Dylan Gabriel, let him play and see if he does anything, and then we’re going to play Shador Sanders if he does anything, and then we’ll we’ll talk about 26 when we get to 26. Well, I think right now is a product of the commitment they made. And I think they put Gabriel in quicker than anybody wanted to. And I think we’ve all seen the answer quicker than anybody feared, you know, or anybody thought. I mean, I I think this was always the logical conclusion, right? But I think there’s eight quarters left for Dylan Gabriel, right? If if if they don’t win these next two games, then then you’re totally you’re seven games left, but you are totally playing four nothing. Right. Right. And and if he fails again, if he’s still out there with the lowest success rate in the league, with all these four yard passes, with not being able to move the ball at all, which all these things are happening, then it’s time to do it. But they’ve made the commitment right now. And we would look at the situation differently if they drafted him in the fifth round. And we would look at the situation differently if they had traded Joe Flacco two days ago instead of 5 weeks ago, right? But they haven’t. So, they’ve made this situation and Dylan Gabriel is going to play against the Jets and if he’s healthy, he’s going to play against the Ravens. But, if he plays the way that he has, and everything that we’ve seen says that it’s going to be the exact same, maybe a couple exceptions with a new play caller or maybe Jerry Judy actually catches a ball. Right. Right. But other than that, like time’s up in eight quarters and they’ll have to make a move. Just a little real quick. Do you want to mention the chart that you sent me? Yeah. See if you want to take this. The numbers are are are the numbers and they’re obviously bad for the Browns across the board, but Dylan Gabriel’s success rate, okay, is the lowest in the league and it’s at 36.7%. So two is getting replaced and he’s having an awful season. We saw him in person and he’s at 43 and he’s bottom four in the league. Kamort is on a historically bad team. Look, look at that. So success rate is getting four yards or more on first down. It’s leaving yourself third and three and a half or less and then it’s converting. So it’s not the tell- all stat, right? But it’s giving yourself a chance. that’s consistently moving the ball and that success rate is 36.7%. And but look how far low that is. That that’s just the bottom half of the league. Right. So the middle is 48 and you’re 12% behind that. Yeah. Justin Fields Bucks. Right. Right. Look who’s not going to be playing next year. Oh wow. Yeah. Gino Smith. Wentz. Right. Wentz. Tua. Right. Like it’s it’s bad dad. So, it’s a number and with all these numbers, you can present it to to make whatever argument, but like this isn’t just this doesn’t just look visually bad or the scores don’t indicate it. Like, they only got over 13 points when the defense did it for them. Let me ask you this and let me try to set this up right cuz Ty Sparked this when he asked you. You know, it’s the last two years been a definition of insanity. You’ve been covering this team since year 2000. Zack, a lot of the times we hear fans say, man, like it’s been the same old same old since 99. And I was a kid in 99 and me and my brother talk all the time in my opinion. I thought before Al Learner passed away that the Browns was headed in the right direction. I had got the education on like we was the of the franch expansion franchises that had came back. Our process was a little bit more rushed than with the Panthers and with the Jaguars was and to see that we made the playoffs within those first few years under Al Learner as a young kid I was excited about the direction. We spend a lot of time talking about who’s to blame, Jimmy, Paul, Andrew, Kevin. Do you believe that the Cleveland Browns was once headed in the right direction until Al Learner passed away or do you believe it’s just been the same chaos from 99? I would say that 20 years after Al Learner passed away, the Browns traded for Deshun Watson and this group was headed in the right direction until that trade was made and they’ve sunk it and they did it to themselves. And it’s a great conversation that we could go on for hours, but in this league, man, three years is a long time. And these guys have been here six years, and that’s a long long time. That’s like 60 years in the real world. It it’s not an exaggeration, right? So, they went three and 14 last year, and the offense they’re trottting out this year is even worse. Like, to me, there’s a mountain of evidence that says it’s just time to move on. And people don’t want that. And it’s not easy for the next guy. And when the next guy does come, it’s easy to tear it down. It’s not easy to build it back up. We’ve seen that time and time and time again, right? But like they went all in on last year and this year and they’re failing. They’re not losing because there’s 12 starters on IR. They’re not losing because the other team is making 60 yard field goals at the buzzer. They are consistently putting out an offense that has no chance, right? And they didn’t address wide receiver in the draft and they didn’t address O line in the draft and they drafted Dylan Gabriel in the top 100 and said he’s going to give it a shot and he has no shot. Clip that. Uh, Tyus. Uh, you’re next up. He said, “I got nothing.” He went to Vince McMahon. I got nothing. I got nothing. I have nothing here. I You just silence me. So, going into this, let’s talk about this upcoming game. We have to. Will you tell me that there’s no way that we will lose this game? I didn’t say that. Please say there’s no way because they you talk about you talk about the defensive tackle being tough. They benched the starting linebacker and they traded away the quarter Jerry Judy breakout game. You would you would think, right? You would think he only got two. He didn’t get a single target in New England until the game. That’s why I’m saying like this is this has to be you would think coming off the buy, right? Self scout, right? Reassess. Will the wide receivers get more targets than the tight ends? They should not. They should not. Now, maybe they will, but they should not. So, it doesn’t look like Isaiah Bond’s going to be in. That’s a plus. That That’s a plus. He’s not going to be in. He’s not going to be in that. Yes. Do you watch the games? I don’t. Zack, I’ve been saying this and everyone’s laughing. He’s been so bad. Like, what about Malachi Corley? Should he I mean, it’ll be him or Gage getting getting some touches. You would they’ve been giving Malachi the design run. So, let me get this right. The guy that they put their neck on the line for gave a fully guaranteed contract to is not good. Why? Why did the GM not speak on the by-week? That fire get ready for versus hey I mean no like I’m this is this is tough because there’s no wiggle room with this because there the circular argument can’t happen. Well, our receivers are bad. And Zach’s telling you, “Well, who drafted him? Who brought him in?” Yeah. Well, we don’t have linemen. Well, who whiffed on Jed Wills? Well, we don’t. Our offense is bad. Well, your head coach is the offensive coordinator. Like, where do it Am I crazy for thinking like this? my vitrial kind of goes away if if Kevin Sfansky if they if I knew that they was going to go get a young hot offensive coordinator that had a a mindset that knew how to deal with you know college players and and had a nice offense and Kevin Sfensky was just walking around on the sideline leaving Jim Schwarz alone I my vitriel kind of removes from the situation because I’m like all he got to do is cop management is this something where if Tommy Reese does look like he’s doing something well. Does that help Kevin Stfansky in a in a sense where it should? Yeah. Like he’s off the like, you know what I mean? We’re they’re still building the body work here. This team is still writing its own chapter. And you can look at points of this team and they should have more wins, right? The the numbers are the offense is bad, but like they they should have more wins. They’ve had opportunities where they’ve just failed. The Cincinnati game, they couldn’t catch the ball. Two interceptions. The Minnesota game, they led the entire way, right? They left the defense on the field too long. So yeah, I mean, look, two years ago, last weekend is when Jed Wells got hurt. That experiment was over. So why two years later would you be having Cornelius Lucas and Cam Robinson as your left tackle? You didn’t address it. Zach, let me get this right. You’re talking about all these mistakes that’s being made, but but John Dorsey makes one mistake of of hiring Freddy Kitchen and he gone. But they get multiple egregious mistakes yet they still here. Yeah, it’s a it’s a great question. Is it a Phil? It must have been a real real bad hire. I told Mike that it could be a case of Jimmy Hasslam living in his fears that maybe that he’s looking back and say, “Man, I kind of I kind of it is.” They don’t want to be Yeah. Like I moved on from John Dorsey too fast. I look at that situation and now like that situation is probably, you know, spiral into situations where you’re looking at this now like I don’t with Freddy was embarrassment after embarrassment, right? Like publicly and and I’m assuming privately also, right? So the these are good people like they’ve smart and they they came in and they won. Like John Dorsey turned this thing around but they didn’t win, right? They they finished 500 that that year and they lost that last game at Baltimore, right? And then the next year they lost spectacularly after they had gone and traded the pick for Odell and spent all the money and said now we’re ready to and they didn’t. These guys did win. They have been in the playoffs twice. But since then they’ve won five games, right? And and the offensive line is a disaster and the wide receiving cords and and the list goes on and on. So, they’re trying to plant their flag on four draft picks from last year. And and those all look like players. And like I said, the arrow is probably up on all of them. But even when you look at that, it’s like, okay, well, where’s the rest of the draft class? Nothing. Maybe Shador will be the starting quarterback a year from now. There’s no sign of that, right? And and what about all these other issues? How how can you fix this offense? What about all these linemen being old? What about all these big contracts, right? Like they could trade Mile. They should have probably traded Miles. I get why they didn’t. They could trade Miles in March, right? Take 40 million dead. Well, it’s just going to be unprecedented cuz Deshun Watson’s cap number next year is $80 million. And if you cut him, there’s a chance it goes higher than that. You might have to do that to move on. But like, but can but let me fully guaranteed. So, so let me ask you. So, so there’s so people be saying all the time, just trade these people, tear it down. But can they can they feel the team if you cut Deshawn Watson, trade Miles Garrett with that cap pick, or potentially listen to Grant Delpit or Denzel Ward conversations? You can field a team. It’s not going to be a great one. It’s going to be a part of the cycle. Seattle and San Francisco, for example, Garrett, they cut a bunch of older guys this year. They tried to get ahead of it. The Browns couldn’t do that because they were stuck in these contracts. That’s why David Njoku is not signed for next year, but he’s on the books for $24 million because they had pushed his money up from the previous years. How long it take to get out of all this cap stuff? Just two years. So, is this year, next year? Yeah. So, you you have to be 27. You have to be really back. We back. Yeah, I told you. You know what I’m saying? 28. Told you. I told you. 27. You know what I’m saying? You’re back to competence. No, no, no. Back to building something. I told y’all that 29. Somebody’s going to Somebody going to have to be a sacrificial land somewhere somewhere. I don’t I don’t care if you got to get rid of a secretary or something. No, I’m just playing. Keep all the support people. But I’m just saying at some point, I don’t know nobody that can can have this amount of debt. Like at some point you gota somebody has to account for not IRS coming to collect somebody gotta collect man like I mean you told me two years because think about it so Jimmy can’t cut a check or something like free there’s no that’s the thing how did y’all how did this happen what free first round all this manipulating the cap it’s just pushing it down the road it’s just pushing it down the road it’s called refinancing your house that ain’t worth nothing right and then doing it again and then and then doing it again and going then going to the club and spend the refinance money on drinks. They might as well just deal with the Jets did then. They should just trade them all. Let’s just go ahead and deal with it for two years. 27 28 we back. Them trading sauce 3 months after signing him says it can be done, right? So yeah, I mean it’s Miles was never getting traded this week. He’s probably not. But you’re going to have to look at it. You’re going to have to look at how do we get out of the Deshun Watson contract. And if you accelerate it, that means it’s going to be more than 80 million next year. Note to self, Jimmy Hasslam, here’s what you do. If you just want some propaganda, I’m starting 12 for 15. Give him a beautiful distraction while I try to get rid of this cat buddy. Let me say this. This doesn’t get talked about because we’re talking about the here and now. There’s a chance that Shidor Sanders is the starting quarterback of this team exactly a year from now. You you you are the first person I’ve ever heard say that you’re the first person you got to watch. Like I I maybe I listen I forgot what it feels like. Lay that out. Lay that out for us. What’s the process? Well, I mean the process is it’s clearly not the guy it is now, right? And you’re going to go in and you’re going to have let’s say pick five and pick 15, right? You need tackle, you need receiver, you need all the these other things. If you think Shidor can play and you think Shidor is going to use the offseason to get better, then you draft another quarterback in the third round and you go forward with those two guys and then you you sit and wait on 27. Well, you do a deal with you got two quarterbacks over Ricky contracts at that time. The way out of this is for Shador Sanders to be Brock Pury. Comes out of nowhere and makes no money and so you can spend at other places and push money forward and get that’s the way out of this. That’s the only way out of this. That’s why I back about the 2027 class though because in that scenario, Shadur gets the whole 2026 to prove what he can or cannot do. Well, yeah, cuz 27 Jeremiah Smith is the answer. We we don’t know on these quarterbacks, right? But if the Browns have five and 14, right? And Mendoza’s going and sellers and whoever else. Are you going to trade both of those to move up and get one of those guys? Are you going to address your other needs and and wait a year? So why should why Kitten Shador be the quarterback next year when he cost you on the fact that you said that they gonna draft one in the third that only have two quarterbacks. Where where’s Dylan? I mean he’d be a backup. He’d be a backup. That’s what they drafted him for. Yeah. You need as many quarterbacks on rookie contracts as you could possibly get. He just said the captain is 80 million. Yeah. And you give me Well, you know, you know who they going to take and we going to go and we going to draft late for a quarterback. They gonna take they gonna take Drew Aller. Watch fun. Swear to God. I had Dane Brutler on my podcast last week. He said even with the injury that Drew Aller is going on the second day of fine. Come on. That that probably says more about the state of the NFL than anything else. Listen, that’s wild that he going to go on the second day. If you I I love what you said because if you really want to be cool about it and you really want to be smart, don’t bring another quarterback in here and put him in the same offense with no linemen and receivers and then we’ll be hearing the same thing next year in 26. That’s why I said I would have traded for a receiver at the deadline and still took one with the first round pick next year. I would project stockpile Tyus. I like him. Zack, he’s waving me off. I will talk to you all day. Hooked. You are man. These clips going to go crazy over the weekend. McNuggets. We going to do some numbers on that. Zack, we appreciate you coming in. Make sure you follow Zack on Twitter at Zack Jackson. Akan Jackson, correct? 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Guys, the Jets still haven’t named a starting quarterback for Sunday. We are sitting doing a live show at 11:55 Thursday morning. The Browns defense does not know which Jets quarterback they will face. Aaron Glenn is choosing between Justin Fields, go Bucks, or Terrod/Tyrod Taylor, however you choose to pronounce his first name. Earl, if it were up to you, which quarterback would you prefer to face on Sunday? Which one do you think would be the easier matchup for the Browns defense? Uh, we talked about this yesterday on the Ultimate 216 show. Make sure y’all go check that out if you ain’t checked that out. It’s on the for Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show YouTube page. Make sure you like, subscribe, ring that bell at the same time. But for me, man, bro, I think I would want to face Tyrod. Uh, I would want to face Justin Fields. I understand like Justin Fields have all the athleticism and, you know, he’s younger and he can probably hurt you with his legs, but his decision making is been very, very poor. Uh, he too kind of like is like check down Charlie if he ain’t taken off with his legs. I think when you look at Terrod Taylor, he’s a veteran quarterback. he, you know, can be trusted to make the right decision, not turn the football over. I know he had like a couple interceptions before he got hurt, but the Jets offense seemed like it was doing more with him up under center than it was with Justin Fields. And so for me, if I want to see the Browns get a dub, which I do, uh, I hope that that Aaron Glenn make the choice to start Justin Fields because I think as of right now today, um, I think Trod Taylor is the better quarterback. Yeah, I mean, uh, I I know from playing defense that a a mobile quarterback always causes the most problems because now with the Browns being a heavy man-to-man team, it’s hard to play man-to-man when that quarterback can run and hurt you with his legs. So, for the Browns sake, I’d rather see Trod Taylor because if you play Justin Fields and you play man, it’s the Michael Vic effect. They looking at they dude, they not looking at you, we gone, right? And without Carson Swessinger being there, I don’t know how good, you know, the next man will be to be able to catch Justin Fields. So, I’d rather play Trod Taylor. I know he’s got a little bit of mobility in him, but it’s not Justin Fields game-breaking mobility, and he’s coming off of a big win against Cincinnati. I think that’s who they beat last. So, I’d rather see Ter Browns than Justin. Yeah, I’mma comment on this first, but I got to get to Cle FB25 in the chat. He said he got a $20 super chat. If G Bush can button his coat up, please do not listen. Go ahead and get me together the super chat. Yeah, go ahead and show me. See that button right there? That’s a button right there. That’s a little snug at the bottom, but look how that boy is sitting up right here. Yeah, give him Hey, go ahead and give me that super chat, money. There you go. Go ahead and and hit us up. They try to play you like they try to play me like they try to play me like like my my Ozic ain’t level high level. I’m 25 milligram Ozimpic big homie. Now all right let’s let’s get back to Justin. Get out the chat and focus. Get out the damn chat and focus. Let’s get to Justin Fields man. Um first and foremost uh Tyrod Taylor stop quick like that that stop with that man. Like what they should be doing is they should already have Justin Fields ready to go. Like Justin, they just came off a win. I know Justin Fields is is not too crazy, but what but what you are able to do with Justin Fields is all Tyrod Taylor is is a JB version of Justin Fields. He’s like, okay, like Tyrod Taylor will move around and extend plays, but at the end of the day, he’s he’s not as explosive as Justin Fields. At least Justin Fields can move around and step up in the pocket, and he’s a threat, and you got to keep him in the pocket. My thing is, uh, if if I was the Browns, I would welcome wholeheartedly Tyrod Taylor playing. He’s shorter. He’s he’s not as I don’t know if he’s accurate or whatever the case may be in terms of accuracy. I don’t I won’t say one is better than the other, but let’s not act like Justin Fields can’t give you something on the ground. Let’s like act like Justin Fields ain’t ain’t made some plays in this league. There’s some people in in in Chicago who still feel Justin Fields was was decent. They didn’t have enough around him. But I’m definitely if they want to give us the game, let’s go ahead and play with Tyrod Taylor. Man, Justin Fields last time he walked into our stadium, he was on the ground seven or eight times. Miles Garrett had four of them things. Like, give me Justin Fields. I hear you about the mobility. I hear you about all of that. And all that sound good until you get out there and you not making the proper decisions, you not going through your progressions, making the proper reads, etc. And so to me, when you look at the situation, Tyrod Taylor is one of those ones. He’s just playing like a savvy veteran. He He seems like he has more command of what’s going on and he trusts his own ability. When you watch Justin Fields play, I think Justin Fields still has time to be a quality quarterback, but it don’t seem like he either trusts the offense or he trusts his own ability right now inside the just offense. So to me, I feel like if you put Justin Fields out there who seem a little bit confused, I think that gives the Cleveland Browns a better chance to win. I don’t see it that way. I see a guy who’s five five touchdowns passing, three rushing, no picks on the season. I watched Trod Taylor come in the game and throw I think one maybe two picks where he been when they replaced him a couple of games ago. So the chemistry ain’t even there with him. Um that that that mobility thing, I’m just telling you, it’s it’s it’s a it changes thing. Remember just you say he had a five sack a four sack game against Justin Fields. I also remember two years ago when he was with Chicago that it came down to a hail mary throw that actually should have been caught for Justin Fields to win the game. I remember that. But Jim Brown in the seat Trod Taylor’s the answer. Jim Brown in the seat at that game. I remember that. Yeah. Oh, I remember. I remember he came from the heavens was like, “Nope.” Yeah. I I I look or and I we won’t get to what what uh Zach said. Either way, either way, McNuggets, this is this you got to win this game, bro. If they lose this game, let’s just keep it real. I don’t care if it’s Tyrod Taylor or if it’s Justin Fields. It could be Johnny Taylor. Yeah. Listen, last $2. It It could be It could be It It could be Tyrod Fields. They could put the Plutara earrings on and do the fusion dance. It don’t matter. They should cook these dudes. You know what? You know what bothers me about this game is that we talking about the Jets traded everything defensively. Yeah. We can’t score no way. So, but they just put up 39 points against Cincinnati. That’s the So, like if this turns into a shootout, we ain’t winning no shootout. If if you’ve had That’s what that’s the only thing about this weekend that bothers me. Everybody know every time we play a team, it’s some no-name gangster that just seem to get his money off on the Cleveland Browns. And I was coming to work thinking about the show and I’m like, man, why somebody like Alan Lazar go crazy against the Browns this weekend. I I mean, but they’re they’re they’re they are professional. They’re competent. Like I’ve seen Allan Lazard make plays for sure. I I’ve seen Justin Fields makes plays. I I’ve seen Bree Hall. Reese Hall Wilson back. Garrett Wilson. I’ve seen this dude can make plays. So from they even got a nice young tight end and Mason Taylor. They got pieces. They just they just figured that listen this ain’t going to work. We going to do a fire sale. But the scary part is whoever they put at quarterback has the advantage over what the Browns is trying out. Man, Tyron Taylor or Justin Fields. It don’t matter. Before Before they made those moves, the Browns were uh a point and a half underdogs. I checked the line this morning and the Browns are 2 and 1/2 point favorites. the overunder went from 36 12 to 37 and a2. So even with the Jets trading away two prominent defensive players e even Vegas don’t look at this situation and say it gives the Browns that much of an edge. And plus I’m not even sure what the Cleveland Browns record is when they go to the Medallands to play the Jets. But I do know over the course of time anytime we’ve had any type of success has been here in Cleveland. So Right. Right. it. This is This is going to be I I will say this is going to be a very good test because there’s there’s four or five things that I’m looking at. This game is over it. So, that’s one of them. Ty, they coming out of a bye-week. They coming out of a by-week. Both of you guys having a by-week, right? I want to see how locked in the team is. It’s on the road. I want to see the progression from Dylan Gabriel from from two weeks of preparation being in the in immersed in the office. What they going to do? They made the tra I believe that they already knew. They told uh they told Tommy Reese that he was going to do this last week. So I I I believe they just came out and announced it. So he has had two weeks to deal and hear him in the ear, understand what the play calling is, understand the script. So if you come out here and it don’t look good, I don’t know what to tell you, man. I’m going to be honest with you. I don’t know what to tell you. I I I I’ll wait till we get to the next segment to talk about why I don’t think it’s my no fence writer answer to tell you why I don’t think it’s going to look that great. Okay, let’s let’s get to it, guys. Uh just I want to answer that question real quick. I agree with Tyus and Earl. I would much rather face Trod Taylor. I mean, much rather face Justin Fields than Terrod Taylor. Justin Fields, although his numbers in a vacuum look decent this year, if you guys have watched any Jets games, my man looks like a deer in headlights when the first read isn’t there. And no one gets pressure faster than Miles Garrett. He had the four and a half sack game against Justin Fields a couple years ago. He had five sacks against Drake May last time he played. I think Miles Garrett for a big week, which is another fence rider question. When this in this postgame show, if McNuggets come in, his hair is all frizzy like remember that Justin I’ll put it out there. I got a lot of faith in the Browns defense this week. Guys, let’s talk a little No fence riders. It’s brought to us by Prize Picks. Every day we make decisions, including on No Fence Riders, but on Prize Picks, it actually pays to be right. Don’t miss the excitement of this football season with prize picks. Playing prize picks is a fun, simple way to add more excitement of football. You just pick more or less on player projections and if you’re right, you get your money immediately. 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Yo, I’m so glad to be out here because you know how many times I sat upstairs the last two or three weeks and hear y’all talk about how the browser broke me every time y’all see my no fence writers? I’m finally out here to defend my damn self. That’s what it is. So, the first one like I don’t think it’s going to happen for a couple reasons, man. Maybe I’m a bit pessimistic when it still comes to the situation with the Browns offense. But I got to one see Dylan throw the ball more than four or five yards down the field to believe that it can get accumulated to that number. I got to see the Browns have an efficient drive outside of the first scripted drive to see that be the case. But we talk about Tommy Reese taking over as the as the play caller and I heard two things yesterday that kind of really like gave me calls for pause. One was from Daryl Ryder. Everybody know Daryl. Shout out to Daryl. He said part of Tommy Reese becoming a play caller is not just about the growth and development of the players, but it’s about the growth and development of Tommy Reese. He’s green to this. This is this is new to him. I don’t care how up and coming or how much he’s looked at as this offensive wizard, he’s still doing this for the first time. And then to hear Wyatt Teller say, “Well, it ain’t going to be too much that’s going to look different. The plays are the plays. The play calls going to be the play cause.” And so if all of this is just for some spark, some emotional spark, emotional sparks only take you but so far. You still got to go out there and execute the play. And to be honest with you, like, yeah, they traded Sauce Gardner. It ain’t like Sauce was having that much of an impact. Quinnon Williams is a different story, but they still got some ballers on that defensive line and the offensive line is still what it is with the way that Dylan Gabriel plays ball. I just got to see it first. And I believe that for Tommy Reese, his first game as the play caller, I think it might be some struggles there for him. He’s a rookie at this just like we got a rookie quarterback, rookie play caller, rookie quarterback. It’s a bad recipe to me. I I just think that with the trade of Sauce, I think that this going into this off season, the number one storyline outside of them making a trade or being buyers at the trade deadline, whatever the case may be. I think the number one thing was Jerry Judy not getting that many targets and everybody talking about how Jerry Judy has to be involved in this offense. I think without sauce there, they’re going to find a way. They’re gonna make it their business to get Jerry Judy to pull. And I think Dylan’s gonna get over I ain’t saying he getting like 280 or something like he gonna get like 202. He said he going to barely make it. You know I Dang, that was a very good argument, Earl. Um because as I hear you you say that I’m sitting here thinking about it that as a head coach you you putting you put Tommy Reese in a bad situation just like you put Ken Dorsey in a bad situation. If you want to this is always been my problem with with head coaches that are offensive coordinators. When it don’t work you you fire the offensive coordinator but you know that’s your offense. So now this two years in a row it ain’t working. let me pivot, give it to you in the middle of the season. He has no input on the development of what the playbook is. We heard all off seasonason Kev want to run what Kev want to run. Kev want to do this and now you got the opportunity and when it get tough, Kev tucked his tail and say, “Here you go, Tommy. Uh, let’s see if you can come up with a spark.” No. If you wanted a spark, you should have let that man do what his job was, which is offensive coordinate from jump street and give him an opportunity. But it seems like maybe the backup quarterback ain’t the only person that didn’t get no reps. Maybe Tommy Reese wasn’t getting no reps. You got a problem with reps, my man. You like at some point when are you going to prepare anybody? Who’s prepared? Like are you going to let somebody know? So I I agree with you, Earl. Like it’s it’s kind of unfair to Tommy Reese for us to look at him and be like, “Oh, now it’s going to be all it’s going to be all great. It’s gravy.” Nah, man. Like he he Let me ask both y’all this. If Kevin Stfansky didn’t give a play call and would y’all have said yes to that question? Yes. You still would have said yes. Yep. That he was going to throw for more than two. Yeah. No. I I think he going to throw for I think he going to throw for more yards because Tommy Reese is going to actually dial up one or two plays that put him over the top. Well, in order for that to happen, Tommy Reese got to get creative with the run game. You got to establish the run first. If you don’t get Quinn Sean Junkkins going, you ain’t going to throw for nothing because everybody going to play the Browns the way that they’ve been playing the Browns all season. They did trade they all pro tackle and they did bench they starting Mike. Agreed. Listen, McNuggets I mean Earl is cooking. He came from the perch with with receipts. I like that. My good man. I I ain’t got a problem. He’s absolved of his note. So you still saying that? You still saying yes or no? Are you switching? I want to switch. I’m going to tie this. It’s going to be 2011. Yeah. 2011 and a half. I have one of those coming up in a bit. Uh, let’s get to the next one, guys. Will the Tommy Reese called offense look significantly, and the key word here was significantly different than a Kevin Stfansky called offense? This is the one lopsided answer we had in the entire noense rider segment. There is someone who does think it’ll look quite different. You want to guess who it is? Um, J uh Dustin. No. Boo. Jason, Jason J. Show him, Steve. The one person who believes it’ll be significantly different is the Florida boy himself, Jay Crawford, who by the way is not he’s not quit. He’s just in vacation in Florida playing baseball right now. So Jay back next. You know what? You know what kind of PTO package you got to have to go play inter murals? J has the package. The you know what kind of PTO you got to be like, “Yeah, what you doing? Nothing baseball in Florida. I’m in November. I’m touring all the McDonald’s in the South. I’m going to find I’m like, what? you just going to see him the inner murals. So, we all agree it may look a little different, but none of us expect significant differences on Sunday. Gee, I know we kind of talked about this earlier in the week, but where do you see the biggest difference potentially being? Um, the they I think he has something to do with the scripted plays cuz they all collaborate and say, “What do you like?” and come up with these scripted. But the difference may be is your flow like it’s like call See, this is what I be getting. calling plays is like freestyling. You could be a great rapper. You could have the the biggest notepad and crazy lyrics and and double entandras and but when they put you on Hot 97 and say go, you dude that got your phone out that’s reading bars off the phone. No, no, no, no, no. Calling plays is like a flow. It’s a pattern. Don’t be reading bars off your phone. So Kevin Stefan Josh McDaniels did it perfectly. Josh McDaniels was setting you up to set him up to set you up to set himself back up again. They was running plays. Oh, you like that? I’m gonna come back in the next series with a reverse. Oh, you like that? I’m coming back with something else cuz your defensive ends is running up field. I’m coming back with the screen game. Hey, heads up. You you you you acting like you the type that you would have hated on Nick Cannon and drum line cuz he couldn’t read music. Oh yeah, you got yeah music. Come on. That’s done. One thing, one sound. You don’t know how to read no sheet music. You a hater. The problem what I got with with Kevin Sfensky is there is no rhyme or reason in his flow pattern. There’s none. He just runs these plays. Like you had a you think about this. I’ll be one to ask everybody that come and I asked you about Sansky. I said, “Do you realize that he ran a flea flicker tight end screen? They actually handed the ball to Quinn Sean Judkins. He turned around and threw it back to the quarterback and then the quarterback threw it in the ground because the Patriots was looking at him like, “I know you didn’t try that.” Man, I remember back in the day like when the offense used to really be creative. I remember we was down in Dallas and it was like a it was a one of those situations Nick Chub get the ball, flip it to Jarvis. Jarvis come around, hit Odell in the back of the end zone. That was the height of the creativity from Kevin Stfansky’s offense. It seemed like it’s been downhill from the reverse to the Odell Beckham Jr. when he tiptoed down the sideline. Yeah, it was crazy. It was the run plays, the mix. You you mentioned something, the the the the lack of creativity in the blocking schemes, like crackbacks, different things like that. It’s just not exist. You can’t do that no more. I mean, I I see them boys, they they be sneaking and cheating doing it. They just they don’t hit them. They just run up to side and put their legs against their legs. It’s like you got to sit like a basketball pick. I don’t think you got to be like this. But but I think but I do think the reason I we’ll get back to it is I think Tommy Reese is gonna he got just like McNuggets is a producer. He got 75 topics in his back pocket on on deck like he like he I’mma set this up for for Christmas 2027. It’s going to be fire. The same No, that’s for real. The for real. No, that’s for real. That’s for real. I I lay your topics like you should lay your play call. See, so Tommy Reese has been sitting on three plays, three bangers, three mixtapz. He got he got get ready to die trying the first album. He got three plays that’s going to get him some yards. Ganga Gri, but that ain’t going to change. He got EA Sports Center. That is not going to change the other different things on his roster about the talent and Dylan Gabriel not being very good. Got no ceilings, too. Thoughts? No ceilings. I look at it like first of all I said no it’s not gonna look that different. I just want to make sure that I say that. But I do think that I think at some point like you can’t change like everything like you just can’t like it’s the season is what it is. I agree with you on the flow of the game because it is a bunch of times where I’m like what are we what are we setting up? And I feel like Kevin doesn’t do a great job of that. Or if if he is setting something up, whatever he’s setting up just don’t work. So I agree. But it my thing is I don’t know how much of this is Tommy like how much is Kevin falling back. That’s the part I don’t know. And that’s why right even when Ken Dorsy first game calling, we looked at it and said it still looked like Kevin’s offense. It wasn’t until like weeks later where they was like we just gonna run seven on seven, right? Daniel uh Daniel Oyusi asked Kevin yesterday about the how much latitude does Tommy Reese has and then calling calling plays in this offense and of course Kevin being Kevin he kind of like talked around the question but he says something along the lines of well you know when you first time doing this there’s there’s a handful of plays that’s pretty much there and you know I’ll be involved of course I’ve assisted with it. So, I don’t know how much delegation Kevin is going to do because it’s this this being the actual first game, but it’ll be interesting to see. But I’m like Tyus, I answered no. So, yeah, I’m I’m a no guy, too. So, I was just, you know, we just had to get in depth to why it was a no. But, yeah, I think that I think it’ll look marginally different a couple plays here or there, but overall the playbook. Your scheme is your scheme. Your concept is your concept at this point. You can’t just switch it in the middle of the season. Like, it’s just not going to happen. All right, next one. We mentioned Miles Garrett earlier. This question is pretty basic. He had five sacks against the Patriots. Will he record multiple? So, two or more against the Jets. This was another dead even split. And one of us is on an island by themselves again. So, Tyus, you’re by yourself today, man. You said no. Jay said no. Jason said no. Dustin said no. The three of us who are here plus Bull are on the smart side of history. Ty, try and defend your terrible take. Miles is getting What’s going on here, man? What’s going on here, bro? What’s happening? They going to get rid of the ball. That’s what I think is going to happen. Justin Fields does not get rid of the ball. He will he will dump it off to Bree Hall and Wilson. Did you do you dream you first of all? First of all, first of all, listen. Hold on. He closes out what he said. Wait a minute. First of all, first of all, first of all, let’s put ourselves in the shoes of a quarterback, okay? Okay. Especially a Justin Fields quarterback. Mhm. The last time you faced him, you got sacked how many times? Four and a half. You think I’m about to run towards him from PTSD? We watch Dylan Gabriel do it all the time for PTSD. I’m going to the right every time. I’m not going to the left. You know, man, I’m about to sack me. How you know he just going to be on the left? What if Jim Schwarz get uh I’m going I’m iding him. Where’s 95? What are you talking about? I’m avoiding that at all cost. It sound good. It it it listen I 95 is like you sack me for it. Drake May the next time the pay the Browns play the Patriots Drake May going to be where is 95? He’s going to find you 95. I don’t think he going to get two sacks. He going to he going to run them into somebody that’s going to get two sacks. Do you know Do you know he can mess around and get two sacks just on some people just bewildered? Like he might just turn around. You ever see your dog you had a dog be chasing his tail and then sit down real quick? He might just spin around in the pocket and just fall like he that Miles Garrett get them type of sacks. Ain’t nobody conceded defeat like that. Not when you got not when you rolling. I I mean Will Campbell is going to have a great NFL career. Not today. And he was he was a top five or six pick. He was a rookie. Yeah. Yeah. But but still like still. You know what the Jets right tackle is? Who is who I know who’s their left? Who’s their rat? He might get five more. Who’s the left tackle? He Mambood who is the seventh pick is their right tackle. Their left tackle is Olu Fosano who was a first round pick. Oh, that’s dude from Penn State. Correct. His his that dude like 68. Yeah. His his his name should be which way did he go? Okay. Cuz that’s what he Which way did he go? Which way did he go? I hope Miles does. I don’t think he will. I think Miles Tyus, can I change your answer if I told you the Jets have taken the second most sacks in the league as a team that taken 31 sacks in eight games? No. I don’t Tyus I don’t know where this where you came where this came from. He’s standing on it. He’s standing on it. He’s standing on it. They will get sacks. I just don’t think it’ll be him. Taip Shakur ain’t changing. Taip say this cuz if he if Miles Garris don’t get multiple sacks. I want y’all to replay this and say, you know, he watch Mile have five and a half sacks. He’ll break his old record. Miles Garrett might break the against these teams coming up. Miles Garrett actually might break the record. The Browns going to win this game. He better. Here it is. He had five and they got blowed out. So, how many you got him for, Earl? So, we can totally post game. I got him for three. Me, too. I got him for three. Three of them. I’ll go three and a half. I want up you three and a half. Cheater. You just pricees right. I go for $1. I’m going for I was going to say three, two, so I’m going for one. All right. All right. Next one. Will Quinn Sean Judkins have the most all-purpose yards of any skilled position player in this game? So any Jets player, any Browns player, combination of receiving and rushing yards. Will Judkins have the most? Another dead even split. Myself G Bull and Jay said, “Yeah, Quinton’s healthy. Of course he will.” Earl Tai, Dustin, Jason said, “Not so fast.” 44. Now what? Now who now who’s going to have the most yards? 44. You got You got Fannon. Who you got? Who you got having the most yards? Cuz that’s that’s in Browns. That’s intricral for the Browns, for anybody. For anybody, Alan Lazard, if I’m being all the way real, if if I’m being all the way real, Allen Lazar, man, for everything we just talked about, man, like the the lack of faith that I have in the Cleveland Browns offense to be able to execute the play is like is is very, very low. And then when you look at what the Cincinnati uh I mean, what the New York Jets did on offense last week, they put up 39 points. You look at how the Cleveland Browns defense is set up. I just think whomever you know it is for the Jets is gonna find a way to highlight the weaknesses the few weaknesses that we have and Alan Lazard is gonna find himself as the person that’s forgot about right you got Garrett Wilson you got to worry about you got Bree Hall you got to worry about Mason Taylor at tight end is somebody that you going to have to worry about they going to find the weakest link in the Brown’s defense they going to put Allen Lazard Alan Lazard is what 6’4 might 6’5 something like that like big. Yeah. Yeah. I just think like he’s going to be able to exploit whatever weakness that the Cleveland Browns have. It sound crazy to most people. That’s what I think though. Alan Lazar showed up in your dreams, bro. He if he have a crazy game, I need you to do all my part. Cuz it’s just like, man, it just seem like it’s just always that no-name gangster that seem they kind of get their money off against the Browns. Only reason I got I got a Yeah, because I think the only way that the Cleveland Browns is is can stay in this football game or have a chance to win is they better spam Quinsha Judkins. And when I mean spam him, they need to get him the ball out of the back field so that they they even dump offs or something and hope he can make a guy miss a tackle or break a tackle and get some yardage downfield. Other than that, I just don’t have any faith. Like we wanted to see Dylan Gabriel throw the ball deep last game and I just saw him throw a moon ball out of bounds. I like I seen him like literally like to to Isaiah Bond’s credit, me and Tyus broke it down. Isaiah Bond was open on a corner route. Was open. All he had to do, he looked at him. All he had to do is throw it. He waited, threw off his back foot and the ball was 5 yards out of bound. No chance to catch the ball. So for me, they asked the Dylan Gabriel about the opportunities to go down field. He’s like, you know, we need explosives. You know, we going to try to figure it out. But that’s the only way that they I feel like they’re gonna they’re gonna be able to get yards if if they get the ball to the best player on offense, and that’s Quan Chuck. Tyus, I just think that yes, Quinnshine is going to be the essential piece. I just think that one, I think they love Harold Fanning and they love to give him the ball in different ways. And I think that Dylan Gabriel is comfortable getting him the ball. So, I think on the receiving side, he’s going to lead that. And then, you know, they like to get cute and give hand offs every now and again. So I think that he might get one of those and it might break for a good eight yards. He caught himself. Good eight yards. Good eight yards. So I say I would say all purpose I’m going to say he going to finish the game with like 96 yards. Okay. 96 total. Man that’s I mean that’s that’s that’s crazy. 96 ain’t crazy. There’s a lot of games where 96 is the leading number, but yeah, I mean I got him I got like a lot of games for the Browns Mike or a lot of games in the NFL. No, just No, I mean in the NFL like if a receiver has 96 yards, that’s a pretty darn good game. Who’s the like I think the Fannon at 80 something’s the highest for the Browns. 81 or something like that, right? Now Judkins is ran for 100, but from receiving, yes, Fannon’s the top at 80 something. That’s a That’s a dog on That’s a dog on We got We got two more and I want to make sure we get enough time for the uniform. So, get this next one real quick. Uh the line has changed since we made the graphic. It’s now 37 and a half, but I’m sticking at the initial 36 and a2. That was what Vegas said as the overunder. In this scenario, would you take the over or the under? And you can change if you want to change with that extra point, but myself, G Bull, and Jason said we’re taking the over. Earl, Ty, Dustin, and Jay said they’re taking the under. My score prediction, I’m not going to tell you who I’m picking, was 20 to 17. I swear to God, this actually that one point changes where I lead or lean. So now technically I’m on the underside at 37 and a half, but I think it goes over on 36 and a2. Yeah. I I don’t know what in the world make y’all think where where you get 20 to 17 from. I don’t care who you got neither one of if the Browns ain’t scoring. But I just saw the Jets put 30 something points up. 39. They got almost got 40 points. That went against our defense. Cincinnati’s defense is like the worst in the league. No one against our defense. Yes, it was. That’s facts. But here’s the thing. Could they get 23? Who? The Jets. Sure. You You got to think about it. Pick sixes and safeties in the end zone is on the board. You You pulling for strong. Pick six and pick sixes and safeties is on the board for both teams. They on the board. It was going to happen for her. So, I mean them points can just turn around. Don’t for don’t act like they can’t return no points on us or no kicks. That be happening too. Like see the points that we be thinking is regular points. It ain’t going to come from the offense. It be doing it be all kind of other things that be happening. Vegas has been unbelievable this year. They on the heater. Give me the under. I’m going to take facts. I’m taking the under. Give me the under. Look look. Not only that, they moved the line up a point too. Like just because I’m pretty sure everybody is like, “Man, they see that 36 and a half in the NFL, man. Give me the over.” They traed all that defense. A lot of people probably like, “Man, that’s easy money. Give me the over defense away.” And it resulted into a one point. Yeah. Give me Yeah, I’m taking a under. I’m taking a under. America, I tried. You can never say I ain’t I’m a hater, bro. I tried to give y’all a point. These dudes done wiped my point down. You know what, McNuggets? dog on it. I’m taking under. Hey, Mike, change it. I’m taking the under. Hey, can you pull up the offens of us comparison? I I think the Browns is 15.8 points a game, right? Give me the under 20 switch to Well, I I had I moved to the I had 2017. I’m not telling you who I think is going to win, but at 36 and 1/2. I had the over at 37 and a half. I have the under. I got it at 37. Yeah, we going to have to Yeah, we switching up. We switching up. We false flagging over here. Get it that We can’t do it. I’m sorry. They they convinced me 15.8 points is nasty combined. That’s even an under. 36.8. That’s even an under. 36.8. Say anything you need to know. I tried I try to be optimistic. All right, guys. Last one, then we’re talking some uniforms to wrap up today’s show. This one, this was tough. Th This one was tough. We know the Browns have not been good at generating explosive plays. Do you know who else has been really bad at generating explosive plays this year? The New York Jets. They’re bottom two in the league. This is number 32 and number 31 in the league at generating explosive plays offensively. So, I’m just asking for two. Any explosive play categorized by 25 yards or longer. That’s it. I’m talking about 50 yard bombs. Not 40, not 30, 25. 25 yard. Well, these two offenses combined for more than two, which means you need to get to at least three. If I said yes, I mean no. Tyus, you said no. Earl said no. Jay and Jason said no. Which means G full B dusted myself saying we’re going to see three. So So 350 to throw for 200. You think Dylan going to throw for 200? Like you you think they going to go over all the points and and you think they might have all these like explosive plays, huh? It’s going to be the best offensive game we seen in a while. I I I I didn’t say that the Browns was getting any explosive. It could be three zip. A gentleman sweep. What are you talking about? I they I didn’t say the Browns won’t have no explosive. You said three. All I need to see is three. Justin Fields scramble for 15 yards. Right. How many yards I need for explosive? 25. For 25. Let me move the goal post. Justin Fields runs for 26 yards. Boom. There’s one. Boom. That’s one. That’s one. That’s one. That’s one. Bree. Miles Garrett out there too. Bree Hall. Okay. Miss tackle. Sweat and der out there. That’s true. 27 and a half yards for Bree Hall and Quinshot Junkies could run for 25. Twin shot Junkies give me that’s one right there. Or I can imagine Garrett Wilson. Have y’all watch making a double move and getting some money. Have you watched the Browns games this year? Unfortunately, yes. They’re like we do a two-minute show. We We talk about it every Sunday. The most boring game. They jud they old TV UCSS trots us out there every single Sunday you for that slaughter at the two-minute warning at the two like so you can’t even go to sleep during the game you got to be up early like at the fourth quarter imagine working post game man so yeah you yours is worse yours is worse you got to be up there and you got to apologize too can’t even tell the truth I’m just playing I’m just playing he got a OG co-host we going to go through this whole four Oh, they going to run it down. When the Jets played the Bengals, the Jets had one, two, three, four, five explosive plays by themselves. That was the Bengals. We’re just asking for three total. Easy money. Pulling three. Pulling on, man. That’s not They still got I should have asked Mike this beforehand, but I wonder how many 25 plus yard plays have the Browns defense surrendered this year. Yeah. Can we look that up? You know what’s gonna be sick? I could probably find I have to do a little digging, but I probably could find You know what’s gonna be sick? When when Garrett Wilson or Justin Fields or Breeze Hall or Quinn Sean rush for two and get a 24 yard play, y’all going to be like, “Man, don’t you dare, man. See like what I’m going to do.” This thing going to be sick. Hey man, listen man. This is the show of moving goal post. I’m going to just move the post. It was 24 accounts. 24 and a2.4562 4562 exclamation point. I believe McNuggets keeps track. It keeps like the the track of these for the overall. I wonder for real. We do the best we can. It’s not perfect. We do the best we can. Okay. All right. So So McNuggets got the uh TI 86 and a half back there. He has the same MacBook Pro that Penny had from Inspector Gadget, which was cheating back in the day. How do you have one of those in 1985? Let’s keep it moving. Let’s talk some uniforms, guys. Uh first, a word from FanDuel. The NBA season is here. FanDuel has an offer. You don’t want to miss. Right now, new customers can bet just $5. Get 300 in bonus bets if you win. That’s right. Pick a bet, put down five bucks. If it hits, you unlock 300 in bonus bets to use across the app. So, what are you waiting for? Visit fanuel.com/uss to download the FanDuel app today and get started. So, the Browns, no, excuse me, the Cavs, excuse me, the Cavaliers wore their beautiful throwback uniforms yesterday. Guys, think of beauty. Donovan Mitchell talked about the nostalgia of playing in the uniform that he watched the Cavaliers play in when he was a child. Larry Nance Jr., a Cleveland kid, talked about that being his favorite era of Cleveland uniforms. Getting to wear that was awesome. I mentioned to uh Jaylen Tyson after the game that it’s a great look. And he said, “All my boys are hitting me up for these uniforms.” I told him to f off. I’m keeping these all for my future kids. That’s how cool the uniforms were. So, I asked Earl, we were talking before uh before the show, what are your favorite throwbacks in Cleveland history? And each of you guys sent me a couple and we’re going to try and figure out what the definitive best throwback is in Cleveland sports history. So, Earl, if you want to walk us through your nominees for each team here and tell us why you think this one or that one is Sure. Let’s do it. Let’s do it. Let’s have some fun. Oh, which one do you want first? I was waiting for you to tell me which one. Uh, let’s go with the Indians jerseys first. All right, Steve, if you want to get Earl’s baseball jersey, let’s see it. Earl, walk us through here. All right, so that’s a 1976 Cleveland Indians throwback jersey. Uh, red is my overall favorite color. It’s just something about the lettering. It’s something about that that navy blue and white that kind of, you know, I have that style of jersey. Um, I play the show a lot on a video game. That’s the jersey that I rock more often than not. I just think it’s fire. I think you can piece it up. You know what I’m saying? like with just about anything. I’ve been See, I’ve been waiting to break See, I G Bush got that jersey. I’ve been waiting to break it out. I’m going to wait till spring training to break that out. That’s fire. Thank you. That’s definitely fire. Thank you. Thank you. What you think, Ty? What you think about that? I like that jersey. I ain’t got no problem with that at all. I definitely get personalize one of them ones. Yeah, I love I love the baseball on the side. like the the like so as a afficionado of of throwbacks and jerseys, the more patches you got on your joint is the more authentic it is. When you got you got to have something on the left sleeve and the right sleeve. It got to be it got to be kind of vague. It got to it got to be dope. This is a this is a class a fire jersey. Fire. I’ll give you credit for that. I’m going to give it uh I’m going to give this uh a 9.1 on the throwback scale. 9.1. That’s about right. That’s about right. Right. Yeah. Classic right here. What’s next? Earl Earl’s got the first couple then ties. No, no, we going to go with uh let’s let’s go with the uh so I sent the I sent the Browns jerseys in via Madden. That’s what I did. So Maddie, right? That’s cool. Cuz cuz the combinations that I put together on Show me the road combination first with the white jersey. This is hilarious. Is it the 1948? All right. So look, shout out to Matt whatever the case may be. I got I got the Matt Brown helmet or whatever. I got the the Cleveland Browns alternate brown pants with the orange stripe and then I got the the classic away jersey. It is something about the matte brown helmets that’s really appealing to me. But that don’t count as a throwback. No, but but we we do a jersey combination. The Browns really don’t have much of a throwback that you can throw back to. It’s the same. That’s why I didn’t pick none of them. So, if I wanted to do a combination for the road, I’mma do that one for the Browns. Show me the uh Show me the home combination. Well, hold on before we get to the home combination. Why they legs look like that? I don’t know, man. It was just a screenshot. It was just a screenshot. I was trying to hurry up. Why they leg I was trying to hurry up and get out the door. Man, they got all calves. No thighs. It’s calves. Maybe that’s the angle of the picture. Show me the home one. So the home jersey, I switch it up a little bit. I got the orange pants. I got the got the brown jersey uh that Odell and Jarvis used to wear, whatever with the uh with the orange stripes. And then I got the classic orange helmet right there, man. So that’s what I would rock for the Cleveland Browns at home. moment. I would rock the matte brown helmets with the white and the brown pants on the road. I I don’t like none of them. That’s cool. You don’t like No. No. Browns uniforms. The only one I like is the 1946 or whatever with the white helmets and stuff. The all whites or the double double setback with the white with the like double shadows with that with the either I take the brown one with the white pants or the all white. All right. I like the all white ones. And then uh the cash jersey. Show me the cash jerseys. whenever Steve’s ready. Yes, sir. That is a personal favorite. It got kind of like sentimental value to me. Uh, of course, that’s the mid90s Cleveland Cavaliers. Look, man, my favorite player as as a kid growing up was Bobby Fields. I can still remember the teams that had Bobby Fields, Chris Mills, Bob, Tyrone Hill, Wesley P, Terrell Brandon, like all those cats on it. It’s kind of funny. We talked about it being uh my dad, my grandfather’s birthday. My grandfather took me to my first ever Cleveland Cavaliers uh basketball game. They was rocking those jerseys. We were playing Yeah. We were playing the Milwaukee Bucks. And this is the Ray Allen, Vin Baker, Glenn Robinson le Milwaukee Bucks. We won that game in double overtime. So, because as a kid, Bobby was my favorite player. Like those jerseys just got a special meaning to me. And I remember like when we traded for Sean Kemp, he was the rain man in Seattle. He got here and uh he was a thunderstorm. He was in my hood a little bit too much. I’ll just leave it at that. I’ll leave it at that. Some of the other Cleveland Cavalier jersey. This right here is like one of my favorites. Again, that’s like a burgundy maroon type color. Like it’s a variation of red. Red is my overall favorite color. It’s something about that with the gold. It kind of gives me the the feel of the original Cav Cavaliers from when we first started our franchise. Those jerseys was fire to me. It was just something about them that always kind of stood out. I love the maroon joints like like and then back then obviously you had to have a headband and by the way I don’t know how they was letting black folks wear headbands at school at all time cast was walking around grown men with three headbands on like Darius Miles like it was crazy. So I’m I’m a big fan of autumn. I like those jerseys for for the NBA. I I can’t hate I like the white creamsicle jersey too. Okay. I like the white one too. You’re up. So you gave us three Cavs jerseys. All right. I gave us I gave you three Cavs jerseys. You know what I’m saying? Um, first and foremost, these right here, I believe these is 2020. These was like the the City Classics. And I liked them because they had the Fred Flintstone bedrock type Cleveland joint right here on the on the on the chest. They was in black. Uh, I liked them. And I like when we talk about I like patches. I loved when they had the Goodyear patch on there. Like I just I felt that was fire. I really like them uniforms, but it it was bad because this was a couple years into the rebuild. Yeah. They a had nobody. No, I think they I want to say they had uh Darius cuz I want cuz I wanted this jersey and the Darius Garland like he I think he was a rookie almost that year. Yeah, I think he was. Yeah. But they had him and Ston this was matter of fact they did cuz Darius Garland had that little baby fro. Now his hair is long as Earls. That’s crazy. No, Darius hair ain’t as long as mine. Oh look, he got salty about that. He was in his feeling now. crazy. You ain’t got any time like this. Chill out, man. Hey, uh, listen. But no, I I like these. I love these jerseys. I think these is under underserved. Um, I don’t think they bring them back though because they was bad during that era. So, I think they’ll keep it pushing. The jerseys was fire. I hated the court that was associated with I did too. The court was horrible. I do not like the court. The court was not a vibe at all. It hurt my eyes watching them. It sucked when you was playing it on 2K. But the jerseys themselves, I I can get with those. A matter of fact, back then, remember where they had the court where they would put the lasers on the court and and it would be like they would show the Cleveland and then Are they still doing that or you talking about for the uh that’s like the uh announcements like player? They still doing that? I have no I ain’t been to a what the player announcement player announcement and lasers in the building. No, they they pulling the sword out and they got something different depending on what the uniforms was. Uh but uh I like what they do with the sword pull. I think that’s hard. All right, cool. Um, we gonna let that one roll, though. But go ahead, G. Next one. I like these ones. Yeah, y’all got slick. Uh, these these CLES, these is like the third generation of the one with the little tail underneath cuz there’s like a really a blue one. It’s like a it’s like an electric blue type color that they got that’s a little orange. Um, they also got one with the other one that’s a white one with the red tail underneath it. This one kind of mi mixes like the old school Cavaliers, the the the wine and gold with the with the stripes and the brick down the side. They kind of mix them two jerseys. And this is another rebuilt jersey. I think this is like right when Kevin Love signed his new deal. Um and uh this one was one of the jerseys I really liked right here. I don’t think they’ll bring this back either. I think this is a city edition jersey, too. Um, I don’t remember what the court looked like, but I remember seeing this and like I kind of like those jerseys because the side panel and the last one, G, send us three caps to see the last one. I love these ones. I love the land on the front. The gray. I’m a big fan of this. They I like the cool grays. The cool gray. You always tell people from the AA, can’t you? Yeah. Yeah, I like that. You wanted to get them good years in here, huh? That was personal to you. Personal. I need you to represent 330. Stop playing with us down there. We from Akran. Can’t not know I’m playing. Uh the 23 was fire. I I just like those. I remember LeBron hitting um I think he played he hit a gamewinner in one of these. I think almost against the Who would he hit that gamewinner against? Might have been Toronto. I don’t know. But I I like I feel like it was the Pacers. It might have been It was the Pacers. It was the Pacers. He had a game winner in that. But I I like that. That was the error 2018 era. So I like them joints. My apologies to to our audience and to the chat. That was a pausey moment. Yeah. They missed it. You know what I’m saying? It went over heads. Go ahead, Tyus. What you got? I went with the yellow the yellow joints. Uh they just remind me of the Kyrie and LeBron days, man. I actually my Kyrie jersey that I got is actually of this jersey. I liked it that much. Uh I don’t know, man. It’s just when I when I think of that jersey, I just think of them two dudes just balling and obviously going to the championship and things like that. So that’s a that’s a personal moment for me because that’s when Cleveland was all the way on boy when they was rocking them jerseys. So where where would you rank the ones they wore last night then? I want to ask you guys just in general what they wore last night. You guys all sent your That’s like that’s like last night’s jersey for me is definitely like top. It’s like top four. It’s top four for me too between that one, the red one that they used to wear back in that day. The one that Donovan’s wearing in the when he was a kid. That one. Um the the black one that Earl mentioned, that’s like one of my favorites. And then probably that yellow one that I just showed as these right here. These right here is the the 28 straight points in in Yeah. in uh Detroit. Yeah. The these joints right here was the 28 point. I love the fact that they got the Nike like it say Nike. As a matter of fact, I need one of these jerseys. Hey, that origin uh Mike honorable mention though that orange and orange and blue that like like Mark Price and and daughter and used to wear those with fire too. Yeah. Yeah. I like those too. Like them them is crazy. I actually think those are my favorite. The orange and black ones. I know it’s not historic Cleveland, but for whatever reason when I think of like old school Cavs, I see the Big Z, I see the Sean Camp, and I see the Mark Price black, orange, and light blue. Yeah. And I feel like that was the jersey when I wasn’t living in Ohio and been in my previous TV stops. If you saw a Cavs jersey and it wasn’t LeBron, it was that. like all the other eras did not make it through. That one survived. Made it into college parties, made it into other scenes outside of it. The Cavs do Cavs by far do the best jobs with uniforms. Um, talking about out of Cleveland, too. Yeah. Hey, man. Our jersey combinations and and and through all areas like you can still rock all that right here, right now. Oh, yeah. Like every single last one of them like all of them. I I I I’m a big fan of the Indians jerseys, the throwback 95s and them them jerseys. And obviously the Browns, I mean, it’s just tough. There’s only one team in the NBA that I’m jealous of that jersey. Who? And it’s throwback. That Vancouver Grizzly jersey. I think Timberwolves are sick, too. Hey, that old school Toronto Raptors from the Dota by your days with the dinosaur on. Yeah, those is crazy. I’m not going to lie, man. Listen, I be on the internet like I’m trying to figure out how I’mma finesse this. But if I find one of these throwbacks, that old school double Atlanta Hawks with the Hawk joint or or if they come with the with the with the Utah Jazz with the Mountain, you can get that one, man. I don’t even care what y’all talking about. I don’t know who you going to get. Y’all going to have to just be upset at me. You going to get Carl Malone or stock? You not get We’re not wearing Carl Malone jerseys on. No, no Carl Malone jerseys at all. Look, I just I I was telling I was asking you. I was like, I don’t know if you want to get the the post, man. Hey, somebody Hey, random thought. Somebody I had ran into, they was like, “You know, you and Mike, y’all do a lot of good work together. Y’all like Malone and Stockton.” I immediately started talking about Stockton cuz I didn’t want to be called Malone. I was like, “Boy, you know them assisting them steals, boy.” Yeah, boy. There were some other really good players in that team. But yeah, we’re we’re uh we horned sacking Stockton, man. Carl’s got enough. We look Look, we wrestle in Stockton. We somebody ain’t that boy like a football player, huh? Carl Malone. No, no, no, no. Not Carl Malone. The son. Didn’t he turn out to be like a football player or something? I don’t know. I don’t even want to talk about that no more. We got some super chats to wrap up today’s show. Super chat today brought to us by Game Time. The NFL season is here. NBA is back. There’s nothing better than being in the stadium surrounded by fans watching your favorite team. But let’s be honest, getting tickets online is a hassle. That’s why I use Game Time, the app that gives the advantage back to the fans. Game time is fast, easy, and backed. Buy the game time guarantee where you always get 100% authentic tickets delivered on time and at the best prices. Plus, all fees are included, so the price you see is the price you pay. Download the Game Time app, create an account, and use promo code locked on NFL for $20 off your first purchase. Once again, that’s promo code locked on NFL for $20 off. Swipe tap ticket and go download game time today. Also, hit the subscribe button if you haven’t. We are just shy of 75,000 subscribers and I would really like Steve Becker to stop texting us about get it to 75,000 subscribers. It cost you $0 and0 and it helps out UCSS and it’s a cool number to get to. So hit that subscribe button if you guys haven’t. All right, super chats. First one comes from Miss Bell. Shout out QB1. Can he throw downfield? Never said yes. I did see that in uh in that little uh he did interview. He’s like, “Uh, you have any uh you don’t have any intreprepidations about throwing the ball downfield?” He was like, “Uh, we need explosive plays.” Bill Rodalt says, “Reviewing top college quarterbacks, combo of one-year wonders, underassman, last year’s one-year wonders, the quarterbacks in 27. Do one-year wonders scare you guys?” Yes. that they scared the living daylights out of me because my the worst nightmare that I have and I don’t know if you guys agree with it is to have uh Dylan Gabriel who they said was supposed to play and played earlier than he was supposed to, a Shador Sanders that played a handful of games, didn’t get a real look, and a new rookie quarterback next year that they’re going to play no matter what because they used two first round picks to move up and get them. That’s devastating because it’ll be the same thing next year. Well, Zach has completely deflated anything for this year and next year for me. So, I ain’t really worried about nothing till 27. Don’t even talk to me about nothing. Like, they’re going to be wor They’re going to be worse next year. 27 is when I’m really quarterbacks real quick. There’s no such thing as a perfect quarterback prospect. Like Trevor Lawrence was built up to be this once in a generation starting way. But I’m saying that we have and Andrew Luck was like that. Andrew Andrew Luck. But Trevor Lawrence like like which one turned out to be somebody. And guess who was a one year? Drake May was a one-year wonder. He looks awesome now. Caleb Williams played three years. He hasn’t. Bo Nicks played six years. There’s never going to be a surefire bonafide can’t miss guy and sometimes they work out. Joe Burrow was labeled that eventually. Sometimes they don’t pan out. We could look and we could search. It may be a 26 guy that turns out to be awesome. It may be a 27 guy. The truth is we don’t know. NFL teams in the first round over the last Oh, that’s what I need to know. I need Last 15 years, first round quarterbacks in the NFL, less than 50% of them have gotten a second contract from the team that drafted them. First round quarterbacks, less than 50% have gotten a second contract with the team that drafted. I think everything Mike just said is accurate because if it was a perfect science to it, there’s no way in the world that Pat Mahomes is drafted after Mitch Trabiscy, for example. So, or Miles Garrett. Yeah. Or even Miles Garrett. Like, he’s the number one pick in the draft. It’s the easiest science in the world. And Pton Manny, who’s a Hall of Famer, threw like 36 picks his rookie year, right? Yeah. He would I think about if somebody throw 36 picks this and and So you ain’t giving up on Dylan Gabriel. I a Next question. Uh Kylo Francis says, “Tyus Pauseworthy statements are brought to you by Rit.” Well played, Kylo funny. What is Tyus standing on a bear on top of a grizzly bear on top of a condor on a raptor? That was funny. Uh Akan Hot Saucer says, “Happy to share with the UCSS panel. We just found out we have a new little Browns fan coming July.” Congratulations, man. Akan Hot Saucers. Very very very uh very happy for you and your family. James Mace says, “Evan Moy should focus on rebounds and blocks. We have enough scoring.” That might happen to have to happen. Yeah, I like them. I like this shoe. I mean, my boy My boy only had five rebounds yesterday. He got to get better at that. So, I I I agree with that part of messed up your parlay, huh? It wasn’t even about parlay. Yeah. Again, here’s the beautiful thing about rebounding. You can rebound and score. They’re not mutually exclusive, guys. You can do more than one things at one time. Uh, and also scoring and blocking shots on defense like once again do not impact the other. Not mutually exclusive. Neil Gray. Uh, no. Juicy Juice says, “Tyus, only Tupac can get that off. Please.” No, he ain’t telling my look. Listen, Tyus. Look. No. Hey. Hey. Flancho with new growth. Your baby hairs is coming in. You 40 almost. When you got baby hairs and you a grown man, I love I appreciate that, man. Put some gel on them, too. I I feel you type. Lay them down. Yeah. He just told you to do your edges. Lay them down. Look. Lay them down. Lay them down. You insane on there and lay him down with you look like a snack. Uh, bro, he out of line. He out of line. Mike, I apologize, man. Neil Gray says, “If a coach gives up play calling twice in consecutive years, halfway through the season, would you call him a quitter or a coach who’s out of ideas?” I call a coach that understands what type of time he on. He like, “Man, I’m going to go ahead and pass this off.” Bow. There you go, dog. Hey, I thought Leroy put it best. Streets need a body. So, hey, I heard him say that. I said, let me He watching Rais and Canon like let me figure let me You watch raising Canon, right, G? By the way, Force Force come out tomorrow. Force come out Friday. Can we let you skate? Cuz you ain’t watched versus keep. I I went I went I went back and looked at it. You guys got to put me back on the list. I went back. Next one. Brett McCloskkey says Lucas shooting 30% from three, not 46 like Donovan. Thank you. That’s what I’m talking about. Bring them receipts. Miss Bell says, “DG1 Kenobi and Kevin Skywalker.” Funny stuff. I like DG What? She DG1 Kenobi. DG Kenobi. That is kind of Kevin Skywalker. No, you can’t give him no top Jedi like that. He got to be like a He got to be a Stormtrooper or something. Addison Marco says, “With there being rumors of Morris Simpson and even Sellers going back to school next year, what should the Browns draft plans look like?” Draft everything but a quarterback. Everything but a quarterback. You need offensive lineman. You need offensive guards. You need wide receivers. Like you you need a plethora of things. They should draft not one defensive player. Not it should be skill upon skill. Big on big. Like it’s crazy. I’m not about to do Hey, fun fact, he wasn’t raised here, but Dante Moore from EC. Mhm. Yeah, he is. Right. He is. Uh, Miss Bell says, “Is a quarterback developer needed before getting a one again?” Yep. Yeah. And and and if Kevin Sansky was smart, if he wanted to like if I would tell him, “Hey, listen. Your job is to find a coordinator. As a matter of fact, we don’t even want you looking for a coordinator because we don’t like what you you value in offense. We don’t like what you value. They might as well get rid of him if that’s the case. I I would like to relegate him to a sideline dude that just I can’t believe they didn’t get Clint Kubiaak and he got he with Seattle and they they cooking they cooking like that with gas. Their offense is really good. KCM says sending 10 for G Bush’s buttons, five for Tupac Tyus and five for Earl. You guys got to do this panel more often. I agree. This was very fun. Hey, it was man. Thank you all for y’all support. I appreciate it. I told you McNuggets was confused too. He was like, “What is G Bush doing with his coat and his button-ups?” Well, it worked out, man. We got that 20. We got to uh if we’re going to button our buttons again, we got to make sure the mic don’t get impacted, right? Uh Doggy Bone says it very way very well may be the reason Ken was fired and Reese was promoted is that Reese doesn’t argue with Kevin Script. Ken is balling in Dallas right now. Wow. I forgot Ken is in Yeah, Ken is like the pass game coordinator or something like that. Yeah, they’re uh I mean they’ve struggled the last couple of weeks, but they started out hot. Yeah. Uh, listen. I want to It’s yet to be seen how much control he got. How much control he got. Also, they do have Dakota Prescott, CD Lamb, George. And George, Jake Ferguson. Yeah. They cooking. Every time I hear the name to mess that up. Every time I hear the name Dakota, I always think about the movie He Got Gang. Yep. Or the young lady’s name is Dakota or Dakota Fannon. Ain’t that a actress? Yeah. She was like a child actress. Now I mean obvious she’s older now, but I think she did a lot of stuff younger. Uh Christopher Wait says the final two. First one, today’s the 30th anniversary of Art saying he’s moving the team. I still hate him and the rapper. Amen. Amen. You got to listen. The Lord says forgive forgive those pray for those individuals. And the last one is in relation to the uniform conversation. Christopher Weight says, “I love the uniform with the orange numbers that we wore in Baker’s first game, the 2016 color rush. Bring them back.” I had that as that’s what I had at the top for the uh for the for the home for the home jersey. He was he had the bottoms was false flag because them bottoms had white stripes on them like you he didn’t have the whole I put the combination based on what Madden had available for me. So, and I didn’t want to go brown pants for at home and on the road. So, can we explain to people by the way when you say false wagon like you can’t have a Nike a Nike jersey on with Reebot pants? No. You can’t have you can’t have Nike Nike socks with Puma shoes. Like either you don’t have to go regular or you can’t like even like even when you jump out the shower and you put your Nike sweatshirts on. I got Nike flops and Adidas flops. If I put the Nike sweats on, I got to walk around the house in the Nike flops. It’s it’s about like you can’t even make no accidents like that. You’re like, “No, like we just trying to we trying to get you together.” Like there you should never be wearing low cut Tims. I’ve never I’ve never understood. They make low cut tims. They No, they look like Birdman. Yeah. Like that. You should never have those on. As a matter of fact, remember back in the day, like in high school, you used to be walking around and people had jeans on, but we always had basketball shorts on under the Yeah. Facts. Facts. Like it was we was running around layered up. It was a sweaty situation. That was Well, you got to understand that was the baggy season. So like like your your jeans, if you were 34, your jeans was 38, stuff like that. You had the tall teer on the tall te. Yeah. You could wear the shorts underneath the stuff cuz like people play basketball. Like anytime somebody go down, I’m ready to hoop. I’m ready to go. No matter where you at, you take your jeans off, you hoop. Remember, you know, you we kept tags on all our we kept the Nike tags on our shoes. We kept stickers on the bill. On the bill or the hat, like there was things was universal. You couldn’t get like you any hood, any any place where there was black folks, you knew what the attire was, you knew you couldn’t get. Then remember like with the dicky fists, this was around the do-rag era, right? And so like you had to have that crisp white do-rag or if you had the multicolor do-agg to match your dicky fit. And this was the dog tag era, too. Everybody was going to Tower City getting them custom made dog tag. Say you wasn’t, man. My brother, man, I had a roommate. That baby picture y’all saw. I had one. I had one on my me and my brother had baby pictures of dog tags. And I had a girlfriend at the time. She was like, “Under no circumstance, I better not see another girl with the dog tags on.” I’m like, “When I was in high school, I used to bought all my girlfriends the scrolling name belts.” Oh my. Now that’s been I went to I went to Columbus. I seen somebody with it on on TV. I think Romeo had it. I went to Columbus. I went to Eastland Mall and pulled up and had the G Bush lightup belt. And don’t you know don’t you know scrolling it said G Bush. Don’t you know everybody in the crew had that on and it said Gbush because they forgot how to program. Now see I see up here only the girls had them. The guys didn’t rock them. I mean I shouldn’t have had it either. In hindsight that was a party foul. I apologize. You see in overtime. Peace. [Music] Heat.

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