[Mitch Schwartz] Hey Chiefs fans please STFU about not picking Jonathan Taylor. This is a pretty damn good run of first rounders. If your expectation is that the GM (of any team) do better than this then you’re living in la la land and you don’t deserve to be listened to. Enough already.
November 9, 2025
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Mahomes always doing the heavy lifting
Meh, I think even at the time Taylor was the obvious choice. His college production is INSANE and dude had the size, look, and 4.3 speed. It’s sort of baffling that he wasn’t a top 10 pick, let alone there for us to select him in the first place.
We need to stop picking players with hyphens in their name in the first round.
I mean I agree. It’s been five fucking years since the draft. Like every team has dudes they could have drafted and didn’t. Like at what point does this sub move on from whining about not picking Taylor or fucking George Pickens?
2 busts a meh 1 hof one all pro 2 too early to tell. Not bad
No more LSU players either. We are bad at picking LSU players. Clyde, Dorsey, Jackson, Bowe dropped half the balls thrown his way.
But imagine this list minus CEH and plus Jonathan Taylor. Would be pretty sick.
It’s perfectly fine to acknowledge a miss from our FO while also recognizing their greatness over the past few years. The fact of the matter is, instead of CEH, we could’ve had JT, JK Dobbins, or D’Andre Swift, and we’ve had incredibly mediocre RB play since then.
Jonathan Taylor is better than all of those players except 1. Wasnt it CEH we picked over Taylor? There’s no defending that. CEH is a practice squad caliber player in this league
Two things can be true: Veach has had a lot of good drafts, especially 2021 and 2022, but his 2020 and 2023 drafts were overall pretty bad (and 2024 is still TBD).
Wasn’t CEH basically Mahomes’ choice anyway?
Sorry but that was a completely avoidable miss… I would be willing to let it go if they solved the issue at RB, but they still have not… it’s been 5 seasons of anemic RB play. We were all hoping for a RB at the trade deadline too.
This fanbase is so effing stupid.
I feel like we had a run of really good RBs and then something happened after jamaal charles and it’s been meh w/ the exception of kareem hunt.
I think pachecho has def exceeded expectations given where we grabbed him but injury def set him back.
Ummmmmm, no. There are very clear needs that are not being addressed. What they did yesterday doesn’t mean shit today. You want to know why the Patriots won so many rings? Their team was a revolving door for support players. When you have a generational talent at QB, and don’t support him with the best players available, you better expect some blow back. Look at Dan Marino for a great example.
What was Taylor’s biggest red flags coming out anyone remember
Nah I’m going to keep saying it because I also said it the night they picked CEH. I’ve been consistent on it since day 1 and I will continue to be.
Well. 1st Taylor is on a team with a system that features him. We are a finesse type of offense, we are not going to let our Oline play bully ball. A stronger argument would be for Pierce. I think he plays outside only a true x receiver. A lot of the players we think we would like to see get picked may not work in our scheme/system.
Remember in 2nd round of the 22 draft Thornton#50, Pickens#52 and Pierce#53were all selected before Moore#54. We all know how that pick worked out for us.
Out of the 7 picks in the list CEH is the only known quantity😷. You can debate FAU all you want he is injured this year and he is like 23 or something. All the others picks on the list do work on regular basis.
Speaking of RBs, anyone see how the Dolphins beat the Bills? Spoiler alert they have a real NFL running back.
32 teams passed on Jonathan Taylor, not just us
How about no? The run game was a clear need at the time and hitting on an RB in the first round was a major requirement if we were picking him there…so he rightfully will get crap for the bust pick. It’s obviously not a pattern, but it’s still a bust pick he made in round 1.
CEH gets picked in round 3 and realistically no one cares if he busts.
Yeah it’s the same as every team not pick Brady and not picking Mahomes, and not picking justin Jefferson and Edelman shoot terrall Davis was a 6th just like Brad.Romo, Antonio gates, and Jason Peters were undrafted just like priest Holmes. A good team picks good guys a couple times a year. They don’t make every good decision otherwise whoever got the first pick would always win
Let us wallow buddy
I do think that CEH was slowed by his injury and had not sustained that injury. He likely would’ve been a much more successful pick.
Andy wouldn’t have used him anyways.
…this isn’t a crazy list of good players.
Josh Simmons fell into our lap, everyone knew we’d pick him, GM has nothing to do with that. We traded up to get Worthy when we could have stayed put and gotten Ladd (i wanted him more on draft day) FAU and CEH were MASSIVE misses. Karlaftis is a completely average FRP. The only good pick hes had is actually McDuffie
Mitch Schwartz loves nothing more than to complain on twitter about Chiefs fans.
It’s not very often I disagree with Schwartz, but this is one of them. I WILL bitch and moan about not getting JT the same as us not drafting DK Metcalf. Also can we talk about how much of a miss hyphenated named players are??
Football fan “GMs” are the most insufferable demographic of sports fans. Specifically when they cherry-pick revisionist perspectives.
It’s the same fans one week shouting about Brent Peach not knowing what he’s doing and then suddenly the next week flexing proudly when the Chiefs perform. This sub included, has some of the most annoying fans I’ve ever come across.
We simply need to pick a few more Patrick Mahomes-es then flip those ones for picks.
We need to stop giving so many players top dollar for their position or near top dollar. We need more draft picks each year. We have 5 for next year. Not ideal with our cap position. Its okay to let good players go once they become expensive.
The hits Veach has on Day 3 are what make him a top GM, although Schwartz is 💯 about last picks in the 1st and success rate. Any player picked after the first 100 that becomes a reliable special teams player and playable in an emergency backup is a good-average pick according to all the experts.
Veach absolutely KILLS late round, UDFA, and end of preseason pick swap/practice squad poaching. No other team is getting Charvarious Ward, Harrison Butker, Jaylen Watson, Mike Danna, Isiah Pacheco, Turk Wharton, L’jariois Sneed, Noah Grey, Nick Allegretti, TREY SMITH, or 5 or 6 other guys on Day 3 or later at that kind of volume.
If you get 1 league average starter and a core Special Teams guy who can be a credible backup every year out of your 4-7 and UDFA picks annually, that’s pretty good. Bad teams get more because they don’t have decent players already starting.
So many clairvoyant GMs in this thread.
The Felix pick is much more egregious. Made no sense at the time and certainly looks awful now. CEH at the time at least was understandable
If Mitch could just post when we are allowed to complain it would be very helpful. You can be a fan and still have complaints/issues with your team. Its perfectly acceptable. Dude needs to chill.
Not going to lie… said to myself today… JT could be a chief.
Fucking ceh.
Taking CEH over Jonathan Taylor was a massive miss. And taking Worthy over Ladd is looking like a miss too.
Veach didn’t draft Mahomes. This looks much, much worse if it’s just Veach drafts.
Especially if you include bad trades he made for first rounders
2019: Frank Clark
2021: Orlando Brown Jr
You’re looking at 8 picks, with 1 hit: McDuffie.
I know we’re talking RBs but CEH over Pittman and Higgins was absolutely wild to me at the time.
Stfu?
I mean, I agree, but I also think we as a fan base give too much of a shit what Schwartz has to say.
idk Mitch. Taylor seems like an egregious miss to me.
I know who Mitch Schwartz is by the way but who the fuck is Mitch Schwartz?
Worthy has moments but recently very quiet.
Uzomah & CEH lmao. Be real
Karlaftis isn’t a stud
Mahomes wasn’t a veach pick.
I will always cry about missing J Taylor. Obviously you are too if you have to make this tweet
Yeah but JT is perennial and last time I checked CEH is on the practice squad. I’ve been saying this for years that Mahomes should have never been allowed to influence that pick.
Dearest Mitch. We appreciated your years with the Chiefs. Sorry but I’m gonna be a little pissed about this one and the list shown isn’t the flex you think it is. Simmons is a wait and see. Worthy IMO isn’t as good as people make him out to be. Felix was egregious. Duff is a stud. George is not a stud or a difference maker. CEH total bust. Mahomes different GM pulled that trigger. So yeah I’m ok with being disappointed about it!
Choosing Clyde Edwards-Helaire over Jonathan Taylor could have easily been avoided, though. Taylor had the records, the accolades, the production. Just don’t get cutesy and try to out-think the league.
![[Mitch Schwartz] Hey Chiefs fans please STFU about not picking Jonathan Taylor. This is a pretty damn good run of first rounders. If your expectation is that the GM (of any team) do better than this then you’re living in la la land and you don’t deserve to be listened to. Enough already.](https://www.rawchili.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/y1j623kzha0g1-1289x1024.jpeg)
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Mahomes always doing the heavy lifting
Meh, I think even at the time Taylor was the obvious choice. His college production is INSANE and dude had the size, look, and 4.3 speed. It’s sort of baffling that he wasn’t a top 10 pick, let alone there for us to select him in the first place.
We need to stop picking players with hyphens in their name in the first round.
I mean I agree. It’s been five fucking years since the draft. Like every team has dudes they could have drafted and didn’t. Like at what point does this sub move on from whining about not picking Taylor or fucking George Pickens?
2 busts a meh 1 hof one all pro 2 too early to tell. Not bad
No more LSU players either. We are bad at picking LSU players. Clyde, Dorsey, Jackson, Bowe dropped half the balls thrown his way.
But imagine this list minus CEH and plus Jonathan Taylor. Would be pretty sick.
It’s perfectly fine to acknowledge a miss from our FO while also recognizing their greatness over the past few years. The fact of the matter is, instead of CEH, we could’ve had JT, JK Dobbins, or D’Andre Swift, and we’ve had incredibly mediocre RB play since then.
Jonathan Taylor is better than all of those players except 1. Wasnt it CEH we picked over Taylor? There’s no defending that. CEH is a practice squad caliber player in this league
Two things can be true: Veach has had a lot of good drafts, especially 2021 and 2022, but his 2020 and 2023 drafts were overall pretty bad (and 2024 is still TBD).
Wasn’t CEH basically Mahomes’ choice anyway?
Sorry but that was a completely avoidable miss… I would be willing to let it go if they solved the issue at RB, but they still have not… it’s been 5 seasons of anemic RB play. We were all hoping for a RB at the trade deadline too.
This fanbase is so effing stupid.
I feel like we had a run of really good RBs and then something happened after jamaal charles and it’s been meh w/ the exception of kareem hunt.
I think pachecho has def exceeded expectations given where we grabbed him but injury def set him back.
Ummmmmm, no. There are very clear needs that are not being addressed. What they did yesterday doesn’t mean shit today. You want to know why the Patriots won so many rings? Their team was a revolving door for support players. When you have a generational talent at QB, and don’t support him with the best players available, you better expect some blow back. Look at Dan Marino for a great example.
What was Taylor’s biggest red flags coming out anyone remember
Nah I’m going to keep saying it because I also said it the night they picked CEH. I’ve been consistent on it since day 1 and I will continue to be.
Well. 1st Taylor is on a team with a system that features him. We are a finesse type of offense, we are not going to let our Oline play bully ball. A stronger argument would be for Pierce. I think he plays outside only a true x receiver. A lot of the players we think we would like to see get picked may not work in our scheme/system.
Remember in 2nd round of the 22 draft Thornton#50, Pickens#52 and Pierce#53were all selected before Moore#54. We all know how that pick worked out for us.
Out of the 7 picks in the list CEH is the only known quantity😷. You can debate FAU all you want he is injured this year and he is like 23 or something. All the others picks on the list do work on regular basis.
Speaking of RBs, anyone see how the Dolphins beat the Bills? Spoiler alert they have a real NFL running back.
32 teams passed on Jonathan Taylor, not just us
How about no? The run game was a clear need at the time and hitting on an RB in the first round was a major requirement if we were picking him there…so he rightfully will get crap for the bust pick. It’s obviously not a pattern, but it’s still a bust pick he made in round 1.
CEH gets picked in round 3 and realistically no one cares if he busts.
Yeah it’s the same as every team not pick Brady and not picking Mahomes, and not picking justin Jefferson and Edelman shoot terrall Davis was a 6th just like Brad.Romo, Antonio gates, and Jason Peters were undrafted just like priest Holmes. A good team picks good guys a couple times a year. They don’t make every good decision otherwise whoever got the first pick would always win
Let us wallow buddy
I do think that CEH was slowed by his injury and had not sustained that injury. He likely would’ve been a much more successful pick.
Andy wouldn’t have used him anyways.
…this isn’t a crazy list of good players.
Josh Simmons fell into our lap, everyone knew we’d pick him, GM has nothing to do with that. We traded up to get Worthy when we could have stayed put and gotten Ladd (i wanted him more on draft day) FAU and CEH were MASSIVE misses. Karlaftis is a completely average FRP. The only good pick hes had is actually McDuffie
Mitch Schwartz loves nothing more than to complain on twitter about Chiefs fans.
It’s not very often I disagree with Schwartz, but this is one of them. I WILL bitch and moan about not getting JT the same as us not drafting DK Metcalf. Also can we talk about how much of a miss hyphenated named players are??
Football fan “GMs” are the most insufferable demographic of sports fans. Specifically when they cherry-pick revisionist perspectives.
It’s the same fans one week shouting about Brent Peach not knowing what he’s doing and then suddenly the next week flexing proudly when the Chiefs perform. This sub included, has some of the most annoying fans I’ve ever come across.
We simply need to pick a few more Patrick Mahomes-es then flip those ones for picks.
We need to stop giving so many players top dollar for their position or near top dollar. We need more draft picks each year. We have 5 for next year. Not ideal with our cap position. Its okay to let good players go once they become expensive.
The hits Veach has on Day 3 are what make him a top GM, although Schwartz is 💯 about last picks in the 1st and success rate. Any player picked after the first 100 that becomes a reliable special teams player and playable in an emergency backup is a good-average pick according to all the experts.
Veach absolutely KILLS late round, UDFA, and end of preseason pick swap/practice squad poaching. No other team is getting Charvarious Ward, Harrison Butker, Jaylen Watson, Mike Danna, Isiah Pacheco, Turk Wharton, L’jariois Sneed, Noah Grey, Nick Allegretti, TREY SMITH, or 5 or 6 other guys on Day 3 or later at that kind of volume.
If you get 1 league average starter and a core Special Teams guy who can be a credible backup every year out of your 4-7 and UDFA picks annually, that’s pretty good. Bad teams get more because they don’t have decent players already starting.
So many clairvoyant GMs in this thread.
The Felix pick is much more egregious. Made no sense at the time and certainly looks awful now. CEH at the time at least was understandable
If Mitch could just post when we are allowed to complain it would be very helpful. You can be a fan and still have complaints/issues with your team. Its perfectly acceptable. Dude needs to chill.
Not going to lie… said to myself today… JT could be a chief.
Fucking ceh.
Taking CEH over Jonathan Taylor was a massive miss. And taking Worthy over Ladd is looking like a miss too.
Veach didn’t draft Mahomes. This looks much, much worse if it’s just Veach drafts.
Especially if you include bad trades he made for first rounders
2019: Frank Clark
2021: Orlando Brown Jr
You’re looking at 8 picks, with 1 hit: McDuffie.
I know we’re talking RBs but CEH over Pittman and Higgins was absolutely wild to me at the time.
Stfu?
I mean, I agree, but I also think we as a fan base give too much of a shit what Schwartz has to say.
idk Mitch. Taylor seems like an egregious miss to me.
I know who Mitch Schwartz is by the way but who the fuck is Mitch Schwartz?
Worthy has moments but recently very quiet.
Uzomah & CEH lmao. Be real
Karlaftis isn’t a stud
Mahomes wasn’t a veach pick.
I will always cry about missing J Taylor. Obviously you are too if you have to make this tweet
Yeah but JT is perennial and last time I checked CEH is on the practice squad. I’ve been saying this for years that Mahomes should have never been allowed to influence that pick.
Dearest Mitch. We appreciated your years with the Chiefs. Sorry but I’m gonna be a little pissed about this one and the list shown isn’t the flex you think it is. Simmons is a wait and see. Worthy IMO isn’t as good as people make him out to be. Felix was egregious. Duff is a stud. George is not a stud or a difference maker. CEH total bust. Mahomes different GM pulled that trigger. So yeah I’m ok with being disappointed about it!
Choosing Clyde Edwards-Helaire over Jonathan Taylor could have easily been avoided, though. Taylor had the records, the accolades, the production. Just don’t get cutesy and try to out-think the league.