Cleveland Browns Can’t Live In FEARS With Kevin Stefanski’s Future | Some Much-Needed Accountability

The Hasslams cannot live in their fears when it comes to potentially parting ways with Kevin Stfansky. We’ll talk about it coming up on the Locked on Browns podcast. [Music] You are Locked on Browns, your daily Cleveland Browns podcast, part of the Locked Onet. Your team every day. What’s up, Dogpound? I’m Spencer German, your host of the Lockdown Browns podcast and proudly covering your Cleveland Browns each and every single day in the land and on the road. Yes, Kevin Stfansky would be hired pretty quickly if he was fired by the Browns. That cannot be a reason why the Browns decide to hang on to him if it’s just time to go. Accountability goes a long way. And my prediction for the Browns Ravens on Sunday, can they pull off a stunning upset over Baltimore at home the same way they did last year? I do want to thank you for being an every day here at the Lockdown Bronze podcast, making us your first listen every single day. And today’s episode is brought to you by Game Time. Download the Game Time app, create an account, and use code lock on NFL for $20 off your first purchase. And I sort of I I thought about getting to this topic earlier in the week. I I saved it for a little bit later in the week, and it felt like um it was something I needed to get to at least during this week because it was a conversation earlier on. But there’s this narrative out there and there’s already conversation starting about potential landing spots for Kevin Stfansky if he is fired by the Cleveland Browns. And I think it was Dan Olowski of ESPN who made a comment about, you know, the Giants should consider Kevin Stfansky if he’s fired after they parted ways with Brian Dable. And as more and more coaches get fired, Stfansky’s name is going to come up, whether it’s he’s next or whether it’s he could be an option for a job if he’s fired somewhere else. And and I’m not denying the fact I will never deny the fact even that Kevin will have plenty of interest around this league if he is released or or if they if he and the Browns decide at the end of the season that it’s just time to part ways. Like he is a respected figure in this league. Um, that’s part of the reason why I think Jimmy has them is is is more inclined to want to keep these guys on and that he trusts them because I think he knows like he has a coach that people think is a good coach and is well respected and that would find opportunities elsewhere because of the reputation that he has and and what they’ve seen him already sort of build at least to a degree here in Cleveland where you saw some success, you saw a team make the playoffs, you saw some of that culture change at least in the early years here that that he can sort uh bring in and then it all went out the window. We can argue why the Deshawn trade sort of was the the tipping point of all that. But like there is there is certainly plenty of evidence that suggests that Kevin Stfansky is a coach that is is well respected around this league and somebody that would get hired pretty quickly here. So the notion that he could find a job very quickly this cycle, get hired immediately if he’s fired, end up in a place like New York, like that is very very true. I I I would never tell you that that’s not true that he could he could fi potentially find a job somewhere else almost immediately here. But that is not a reason to not fire him if things have run their course here in Cleveland. And I don’t know if Jimmy Hosen thinks that that that that they’ve run. It doesn’t seem like sitting here today going into week 11, he believes that those things that that things have run their course. It it sounds to me like he would he is more inclined or would rather stick with these guys and and run it back and that he trusts them as the leadership group of this organization, him and Andrew Barry, to to to keep this thing going in the right direction. And so I think that’s, you know, understandable to a degree. Um, but if you get to the end of the season and you’re three and 14 again, or even four and and 12, uh, four and 12, uh, four and 13, excuse me, I’m I’m thinking back to when the the season was only 16 games. Um, if if that’s what your record’s going to be, again, I don’t I just don’t think any coach is is obviously safe at that point. And so if you get to the end of the season and and you feel like, you know what, these guys have had six years, it’s trending in the wrong direction, they’ve had time to sort of get their nose up on this plane, it’s just time to move on. And maybe he won’t, maybe he won’t come to that conclusion. Maybe Jimmy Ham will say, “The locker room’s still, you know, rallying around the coach. They’re still playing hard for him. He still has their ear. There’s not a lost respect there.” Um, so so and maybe that’s the decision that he makes. I I I talked about this this week, but going into that Jets game, I was probably feeling it was like 60 65% he he was going to still be here at the end of the season and about 354% that he would get fired. After that Jets game, I think it all of a sudden becomes like all bets are off. I’m more around like 50/50. I think it’s like 5545 that I think he probably gets fired at this point because that Jets loss was just inexcusable. Now, that can change again if they beat the Ravens this weekend. Maybe that quiets some of that again and gets Jim and gets everybody back on board and steadies the waters here. But um like I I I don’t know that he should just be blanketly safe. I’ve said that a dozen times if not more. Um but at the same time, you know, if if if they get to the end of the season and they just decide it’s time to move on, six wins or seven wins in two seasons just ain’t it. This thing has gotten worse over his six years here. It’s time to move on. it’s time to make that decision. Then that’s it. It’s it’s time to move on. It’s time to make that decision. He cannot Jimmy Hamm cannot this ownership group cannot live in their fears about what might happen after you make that decision. You cannot make that decision because you believe you, sorry, you make that decision because you believe it’s what’s best for the organization. You make that decision because you believe moving on from this coach at this time has to happen right now. It’s just untenable. It’s not working. we got to start fresh. Maybe get a new quarterback in here with this this this these two first round picks that you have. All those different things come to mind. But if if if it’s time to move on, that’s it. It’s time to move on. And you make that decision because you believe it’s what’s best for your team’s future and nothing else. The same reason you went out and traded for Deshaawn Watson is the same reason why if you if it’s time to move on from Kevin Stfansky, it’s time to move on. And you make the decision and you live with the results, whatever they are. You can’t live in your fears that well, hey, he might go to the Giants and have some success there. You can’t live, you can’t think like that because if that’s an excuse now, it can be an excuse for years on end. It can just keep being an excuse. Well, hey, if we fire Stfansky after another five or less win season, well, hey, he he get hired immediately, he’d end up somewhere else pretty quickly. Okay, so what? He the results aren’t there with your current team, and that’s what matters. Sometimes things run their course. Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh, I think, is a perfect example of this because every year, every offseason, you hear Steelers fans ranting and raving about how they’re ready for Mike Tomlin’s time to be done and they want to move on from him and they’ve seen enough and he can’t win in these playoff games and he gets his team there. He’s never finished below 500, but they always seem to come up short in the playoffs. Dan Quinn, when he left Atlanta, another example of just, hey, I I think Dan Quinn was a pretty good coach. He got his team to the Super Bowl. Obviously had some very talented players on his roster, but he got his team to the Super Bowl. Uh seemed like he he had a really good tenure and run there in Atlanta with the Falcons, but guess what? It just got to a point where it was time for a change. Things ran their course. It was time to move on. And sometimes that’s the case. Sometimes it’s just time. Maybe Jimmy Hlam will say it’s not time yet. That that very much is still a possibility. If it was up to me, I think right now I’m leaning that if if assuming they finish with just like three wins or four wins. I think it’s probably time to move on. Especially understanding that like look at the coaches that have lost their jobs to this point. I talked about this earlier in the season or earlier in the week, excuse me. It’s two coaches on the two teams that drafted quarterbacks in the first round. What did that buy you? It bought them no job security. They ended the the year on the hot seat and then the second that things went ary they got fired and now you’re setting back these young quarterbacks that you drafted because they have to go through a coaching change and a coaching hire and play color changes and all these different things. So it certainly sounds like there’s a chance they could come back. I’m not saying that’s not a possibility because Jimmy seems to every time Jimmy talks he makes it sound like he wants to stand by these guys and I can you know I I that’s his thoughts that’s his opinion. If that’s what he decides to do that’s what he decides to do. I’d probably push back against it, but that’s where he might be at by the time the season’s over. Another three and 14 season could obviously change his mind, and that’s what we have to see how these next eight games go to sort of get a better sense of where he’s at. But there’s no way anyone’s job should be guaranteed at this point. And if it this season goes the direction that it’s already heading and they decide it’s time to move on, it’s time to move on. You can’t just hold on and cling to something simply because well, hey, our trash might be somebody else’s treasure. Okay. Well, that’s life in the NFL. Sometimes it’s just time. And it it feels like if you finish three and 14 again or just above that four and four and 13, it still might just be time because you’re not getting the results. And that’s at the end of the day what the NFL is about. It’s a resultsbased business. I’ll tell you this week there was a sense of accountability in the in the in the building in Berea that we hadn’t really heard for a while and it was pretty refreshing. We’ll talk about it coming up on the Lockdown Bronze podcast. This episode is brought to you by Prize Picks. You and I make decisions every day, but on Prize Picks, being right can actually get you paid. Don’t miss any of the excitement of the sports season. Whether you’re following the NFL, NBA, or both, there’s no better time to jump in on the action if you haven’t tried it. Price picks is the simplest way to play. Just pick more or less on at least two player stats and if you get them right, you win. 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And I listen, that’s his prerogative if he wants to handle it that way. He doesn’t like making headlines. He doesn’t want to be a big story. He doesn’t want to make it about him. He doesn’t want to call guys out publicly. And I can understand handling things that way to a degree, right? The difference is though, like when you’re winning football, the saying nothing strategy works. Look at Bill Bichc in New England all those years. Like they were winning Super Bowls, so people would just laugh off when he would nag at reporters or just give you nothing or give you some snarky answer. It was funny because they were winning. But when you’re losing, people don’t want to hear. And I know I I think I’m speaking pretty accurately for you as a fan of this team. You don’t just want to hear the same answers over and over again where he gives you nothing and he says, “We got to be better. I got to be better. We’re going to work on it. We’re going to get better. I’m going to get better.” Like, when you hear that over and over again, it just leads to more questions when you’re losing. It’s just, well, okay, you’re going to be better, but how? You’re you’re going to change this, but how? And then you you do see some of the the accountability like Kevin passing off play calling to Tommy Reese I think is an accountability thing. I think that’s him saying I know I’m not doing I’m not my job isn’t being executed well enough. I got to try something different here. I want my team to be able to try to win. So I I think you see that in in those moments. But he doesn’t ever explain anything. He doesn’t ever give you that publicly. And I think that that eats at people and gets sort of frustrating. So, I thought this week, specifically on Thursday, talking to the coordinators, Tommy Reese, Bubba Ventron, I thought there were some refreshing comments made by both of those guys in regards to holding themselves accountable for certain things that happened in these games. We’ll start with Bubba. I don’t know if I’ll play this whole clip. It’s about two minutes, but uh he talked about the two special teams blunders against the Jets, and I felt like this was him owning the fact that they made some mistakes. Yeah, we just honestly I would say in both areas we got to do a better job um well first off on the kickoff got to do a better job of getting off blocks and then folding when necessary. You know, we practiced that play multiple times throughout the week. So, got to do a better job with our our details and our techniques and our fundamentals. And then on our punt, um just not taking the easiest release into coverage, getting outside the ball. Um, and then we need a better ball with better hang on that. So, we need to we need to do a better job. We haven’t we haven’t played near our capabilities. We’ve had too many too many issues with just just dumb dumb dumb dumb football, dumb mistakes. Um, but look, we have a I will say this, we have a prideful group and I expect these guys to respond. I really do. So, made the corrections. Moving on. It’s a new week and we’re excited about the opportunity to play against the Ravens. I can accept that answer. I I can accept like he gave you something tangible that wasn’t working. That isn’t working. He said on the kickoff, we need to do a better job of releasing. We need to do a better job of folding in or sorry, the punt was more about like the release. The the the kickoff was more about getting off blocks and then folding in to make the play. And he went on to explain, again, I didn’t want to play the whole clip, but he went on to explain also that um in the game they made adjustments. They got some different guys out there and it worked. And he said like, “Yeah, listen. In the moment, like I’m pissed about it. I’m upset about it, but I also have to try to rally the guys and I can’t just be negative and and hark on them and and rip on them. I got to try to stay positive and keep us moving forward.” And then we made those corrections and the rest of the game was better. Like now, it’s not hard to recover from two bad special teams blunders when you give up two touchdowns. you shouldn’t be doing that very regularly anyway. But at the same time, like I I that he gave you something. He gave you something tangible that you can understand. Here’s what went wrong. Here’s what we need to work on. We need to be better because of this stuff and we haven’t played up to our potential. I that that was refreshing to hear. It felt like it was somebody telling you upfront and and and in your face like this wasn’t good enough. Here’s why. I know what the corrections are and and and and actually giving you some something uh worthwhile in terms of an answer. You just don’t get that from Kevin Stfansky and I think it would go a long way if he did do that. The other one I wanted to play you is is Tommy Reese. We all know about the fourth down play, the fourth and one play early fourth quarter against the Jets. Dylan Gabriel sacked. Tommy Reese got aggressive, tried to run a pass play. Um, it actually looks like on the replay Cedric Tilman comes open, but it leads to a sack because the Jets started up a blitz at the the perfect time to do it and they get to Dylan Gabriel make the play. This was Tommy talking about that play and and owning the fact that maybe it wasn’t the best decision at that time. You talk about a play call you want back. You know, you start there. Um, had a lot of confidence in the call on third down that we’d pick up the first. felt like we maybe lost a yard there. And um you know, look, in hindsight, you want to you want to execute those situations. We made an aggressive play call. We didn’t work out. They had a good call on on defense and we just didn’t execute it at the end of the day. And you know, those were ones as a play caller that you want to always put your guys in the right position. We were running it pretty good at that point on that drive. Um so certainly could have could have handled that differently and executed it differently. So, um we’ll learn from it. I’ll learn from it and get better on it. again accountability, public public accountability. He is saying probably a play call I want back. He actually went on later in the press conference and flat out said, “I should have run the ball there.” He alluded to it there. He said, “We’ve been running the football pretty well at that point.” But he flat out said later on in the press conference, “I should have run the ball there. You’re right about that and I got aggressive and it didn’t work.” Now, you could argue that the play call theoretically did work because he got a receiver open and then it just didn’t the the quarterback couldn’t get the ball there for whatever reason. Maybe it’s him not seeing the field well. Maybe it’s just that the blitz was there. I think it’s a combination of things. The Jets did dial up like in that game the Jets dialed up like a perfect blitz in that moment and they dialed up a perfect play against the Browns running cover zero on defense to get that screen pass in for a touchdown that ultimately, you know, finalized their victory, if you will. put them ahead where they never look back. Like, so that that’s part of football. Like, it’s the chess match. It’s it’s knowing schematically when you’re going to use things, when you’re going to call things, and it working out. Like, this doesn’t have to be the end- all beall for for Tommy Ree. He he he made a play call. He’s living with the results, but he also sat there and told you, “Yeah, you know, this is what I thought. This is why I did it. I I should have probably called something different there. I I’ll own that and I’ll get better from it.” It’s not just him coming and saying, “I got to be better. Next question.” It’s, hey, this is what I was thinking. This is what happened. I got to be better from it. I I just thought in general, um, the way both those guys talked on Thursday was refreshing for an organization that keeps everything so tight-lipped and is so buttoned up and I’m not and listen, and normally like being buttoned up is is not something that you’re going to get knocked for. I get it. And from a PR standpoint, I’m sure it it makes a ton of sense to to to do it that way. But it just feels like there’s the reason people are questioning if there’s ever any accountability and and people are getting, you know, rightfully called out behind the scenes for things and and and if there’s changes actually being made is because you don’t ever get any of that publicly to make it feel like it’s happening. And so when guys actually come out and are outward about like, “Yeah, that’s on me. That’s a mistake or I messed up or whatever.” I think it can be appreciated by everybody. So, I thought that was a good a a good thing from this week that both those coordinators talked in that in that way and hopefully it means that there’s there’s progress being made and that things kind of get better from here. Not that I think they’re going to get massively better in a season where you’re already two and seven, but I I thought I just thought in general that was a nice thing to hear. It was a nice change of pace from what we usually get from this organization. Speaking of the Ravens matchup coming up this weekend, last year the Browns put off an upset at home against the Baltimore Ravens with some crazy circumstances that sort of led into that game. Can they do it again? I’ll make my prediction coming up here on the Lockdown Bronze podcast. The NFL season is here and honestly, there’s nothing better than being in the stadium surrounded by fans cheering on your team. But let’s be honest, getting tickets can be as such a hassle between cues, login screens, price jumps to checkout. It’s just a frustrating process all around. That’s why I use Game Time. It’s the app that gives the advantage back to the fans. Game Time became my go-to app for buying tickets just last year. I went to I I went to buy tickets to see Ohio State Michigan for my wife and I. And every year we try to go to an Ohio State game. We’re going to UCLA coming up this weekend. I use game time for those tickets as well. 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And I think that sort of, you know, was a was a interesting sort of under underlying part of this game and and that was that was kind of an interesting thing people leaned on as as just the the Jim Donovan looking down and impacting that game. The Kyle Hamilton couldn’t hang on to the interception late in that game and it was like, oh, Jim’s Jim’s, you know, having making an imprint on this one. It was it was kind of cool to feel that. So, there was that. There was also the fact that the week before Deshun Watson had just gotten hurt and was done for the season. Jameus Winston was set to take over and Kevin like this year had changed play callers, but he just had changed it going into that game. So, there was kind of like this perfect storm of of cosmic things happening in the football universe that led to, okay, Ravens got to see a different quarterback. Maybe they came in a little lethargic. Maybe the maybe they weren’t expecting what they were going to get from Jameus Winston to play Cohen and all these different things. Okay. Um I don’t I think this year the biggest thing I I’m looking at though is the fact that I don’t know that the Ravens this year are going to come in sort of sleepwalking into this game. Like they they can’t afford that at this point. They they are already at a stage in the season where because of how they they started this year and and the one and five start that they got off to. They have five losses on their schedule and they’re climbing their way back in. We’ve we’ve talked so much about how well they’ve played of late in particular. The defense is playing better. Lamar’s back and he’s obviously he was on the injury report early this week with a knee issue, but he’s back in the fold. He practiced fully on Thursday. like there’s just not room for them to sleepwalk at this point. They’re four and five. They still have their work cut out for them. Their schedule might be light now, but it’s going to get tougher. You can’t afford too many more losses if you’re the Baltimore Ravens. And so, like, they’re treating every game like a playoff game. This one included. I don’t think you’re going to get them coming in sleepwalking. I think that maybe the play calling change helps you a little bit in this game because early on in the season, the way Kevin called the game, things didn’t work very well. We know Joe Flacco wasn’t playing very well at that point either. Receivers weren’t helping matters. So maybe a different perspective to it helps the offense a little bit. This Ravens defense, even though it’s playing better, still not elite, but what they can do is they can get after the quarterback with with blit by blitzing. They can’t get a lot of pressure with their front four, but they blitz a lot. This offensive line has struggled to pick up blitzes at times. Dylan Gabriel struggle when there’s blitzes to see the field and get rid of the football and put it where it needs to go. He he wants to at all cost protect the football and not take any risks. And so sometimes that just leads to him getting sacked. He got sacks what six times last week and that’s the second time already he’s been sacked that many times or more in a game. So there’s there’s some issues there um that I think the Ravens will sort of create with the way that they’re playing defense right now and their aggressive style. I also think offensively you’re going to see a little bit of some things different from the Ravens. It’s not so much relying on on Derrick Henry anymore. Uh Katon Mitchell has gotten heavily involved as we talked about with Kevin Ostriker on their crossover show on Thursday. The way they’re using him is kind of a change of pace guy out of the backfield and able to do some some interesting and unique things with I think he’s changed some dynamics on their offense. And obviously Lamar is Lamar. He can make some plays. The Browns have actually done a fairly good job, especially in recent years, sort of containing Lamar Jackson and not letting him just destroy you. I think that probably sets things up for this to be another game where you get a a slog for a while. Browns defense keeps it interesting, keeps it close, keeps things tight, tries to give the offense a chance, but I just don’t know if I believe I mean, listen, this Ravens defense was as bad as it can be dating back to week two. And you had Joe Flacco, who was one of the elite, not at this stage of his career, but at one point, what I will say is Joe was an elite quarterback when it comes to, I think, anticipation and putting the ball where it needs to be to guys. And I think he still does that at a pretty high level even at this age. and and he was still struggling to move the football with that offense back then. Like I get it’s a new play caller, but do I trust Dylan Gabriel to be able to do those things now that the Ravens defense has at least steadied the ship and is playing better football from what they were back then? Probably not. And so, as much as I I I’d love for this to become similar to last year, this shocking upset that calms the waters on everything and the the fire the the the hot seat talk maybe quiets down a little a little bit. And I’m predicting this. I’m sure it’ll probably go the opposite just because I have been brutal uh with my picks this year just in general. I I have not done well. Um, but understanding that like, you know, I I think I I I just think that the Ravens are going to be too much in the end. And this feels like another one of those matchups where the Browns keep it close for a while. Defense keeps them in it. Maybe they make it, maybe they get a turnover and it leads to an easy touchdown or an easy field goal for the for the Browns offense. You go to the halftime, maybe it’s like 1010, maybe it’s like 13-7, something like that. But then in the second half, the Ravens are going to figure some things out. Lamar is going to be Lamar. He’s going to make enough plays and they get out of here. I’ll say with a a 20. The Ravens win. I’ll say 27 to 18. The Ravens come out victorious. Weird score. I get it. Um sometimes you just got to pick weird scores because every time I feel like I pick the standard football scores, it never actually goes that way. So 27 18 Ravens get the win. uh on the road even with the bad defense. Um we’ll see. We’ll see. Uh you know what? I I’ll give the Browns a little bit more. I’ll say 27. Do I dare go to 24 points against a bad Ravens defense? I’m going to say 2723. Ravens win by four. Division game. I I I’m I know I understand I’m changing my my sort of answer here in real time, but I think division game, maybe there’s some juice because the Browns are at home again. It’s been a while since they’ve had actually had a chance to play in front of this hometown crowd. Um I’ll I’ll I’ll roll the dice here a little bit more and say that they get over 20. The Tommy Reese offense, I think, had some some some more life to it. It had some there were some promising things there that I liked. And I I wonder if that carries over a little bit. Ravens defense isn’t great even though they’re playing better. And I’ll say they find a way to get to 23 points, but the Ravens still ultimately win 27-23 and they they fall to 2 and8 on the season despite showing some promise offensively. So that’s where I’m going to go with it. 2723 Ravens win. I just think again you’re not going to get a Ravens team that falls asleep at the wheel and the Browns offense just still not trustworthy enough for me to believe that they’re going to win this football game against a Ravens team that has one of the best quarterbacks in in all football, Lamar Jackson. Another episode down with you dogpound. Thanks for joining me to talk about your favorite football team. Send me your picks and predictions at Spencito_. You can also jump in the comments section and uh contribute there as well. If you like what you heard, hit that subscribe button. Make lockdown bronze your first listen every day wherever you get your podcast and at the lockdown bronze YouTube channel. For your second listen, get a double dose of the Lockown NFL podcast with Tyler the mad man Roland and Tony Wiggins wherever you get your podcast and the locked on NFL YouTube channel. You can also keep it local. Check out Locked on Cavs or Locked on Guardians. 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The Cleveland Browns are barreling towards a pivotal crossroads as questions swirl around Kevin Stefanski’s future. Would firing a head coach—despite league-wide respect and surefire job offers elsewhere—set the franchise back or fuel necessary change?

Spencer German breaks down why Jimmy Haslam and the Browns’ ownership cannot live in their fears when it comes to time to decide Stefanski’s fate in Cleveland. Later, coordinators Bubba Ventrone and Tommy Reese express accountability for their roles in Cleveland’s loss to the Jets.

Plus, Spencer submits his pick for the Browns matchup with the Ravens, Sunday.

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FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN)

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