Has Chris MacFarland set the Colorado Avalanche up for long term success? | DNVR Avalanche Podcast

Has Chris MacFarland set the Colorado Avalanche up for long term success? | DNVR Avalanche Podcast

Yo, how do these guys have so many like pretty good players on their team? Hey, B’s got it. Listen to him. Welcome in to the BNBR Avalanche podcast live from the Toyota Lounge and powered by your Front Range Toyota dealership presented by Bet 365. We’ve got Bailey, we’ve got Rudo coming to you as it is an off day for the Colorado Avalanche. But, uh, they gave us plenty of news to talk about. I want to get into all of the signings that the ABS have done. Not just in season, though we will talk about those a lot, but some of the offseason ones and just how successful the ABS have been with some of these signings. It is beyond my expectation how much success we’ve seen out of pretty much everyone the ABS have signed from Brenley who we’ve been heaping praise on for weeks to Marty Niche signing his new deal and immediately being extremely effective to Victor Olifson as an offseason guy or a Brent Burns. Is this about as good as CMAC could have done now knowing we’re 20% of the way through the season? I think it’s severely underrated considering the quiet off season that the ABS had. Yep. Getting an Oliffson done, getting a Brent Burns done and seeing how they’ve performed. I mean, I I’d maybe like to see a little bit more production from an offensively minded Brent Burns. Maybe that’s not the role that Bedar wants from him. I I’d personally love to see that. But seeing what Olison’s been able to contribute, seeing what Burns has been able to do, seeing what these signings or at least guys who have earned extensions have done so far. It’s I I don’t know how you do much better than that. Yeah, I’m saying it’s it is crazy good work. Uh the one I wanted to focus in on first and foremost though is Scott Wedgewood with the game yesterday. We didn’t really get to talk about it too much. Schwedgwood extended for an additional year at $2.5 million for next season. How much of this was likely to happen anyway? And how much of this is Scott Wedgwood has just played too well and earned another year in Colorado? From what Bedar kind of mentioned to us yesterday, it has a lot to do with his play so far. like that that just kind of solidifies what he’s meant to this ABS team and gives him that reassurance that you know if he’s performing like this he can do it for one more year while an Ilia Nbakov goes and develops the expectation is that Nbakov will be in North America next year no question but Bennar really he doesn’t want to throw him into the deep end immediately allowing him to go into your farm system and develop a a little bit, get some time before putting him into an NHL situation, I think is the best thing you could do for a guy like this who you’re looking at to be a franchise goalender for your team. And giving him a year to do that while also holding on to Scott Wood seems like a nasty piece of work. There is, and I I don’t mean this is a bad thing. I think it is genuinely a good thing. But I think the Colorado Avalanche value a backup and third string goalender more than most teams and some of that is just their own experience with goalender injuries over the past half decade. Pavl Francos went six and0 in their cup run for them. you you watched them have one of the worst tandemss in the league for the first two months of last year that included a young inexperienced goalender and Eustus Anin and and just it would not be surprising to think that Bedar and the Adront office have a little bit of distrust in saying do we really want to go into next year with Blackwood and a guy who has played zero games in North America. I mean he’ll probably come over in April and play a couple but Oh yeah, imagine how much pressure that puts on a guy like Mackenzie Blackwood, right? you’re you’re stuck with a starter that you have to ride at that point. And it’s something the ABS have absolutely done in the past, but this feels a little bit like, hey, let’s keep ourselves a little bit more secure with our goalending depth here. We don’t have to put ourselves in that situation. And if I plays your socks off in the AHL and you have to play him over Scott Wedgwood, that’s a pretty good problem to have. Yeah. So, I mean, you know, multiple winning teams in this organization isn’t a bad thing to have either, but by the way, Eagles the best team in the AHL right now. They’re doing pretty well. I mean, props to them. Denil Gchen, heck of a get for this team. He looks like a monster down there. I’m excited to see him. I mean, inevitably, I I would think we see him in an ABS jersey at some point with injuries and the like. Taylor Mccard did get reassigned to the AHL. Possible we could see Guin this weekend. I’m not not confirming that or anything. I don’t actually know, but Benard did say like I don’t know. We got a lot of guys we want to take a look at. So, we’ll see. I I don’t know. I if you need to play Nabakov over Wedgewood, so be it. Fine. I don’t foresee that happening unless you’ve got a big injury situation. Yeah. just because of again how well Wedgewood has performed. Uh first goalender to 10 wins in the league. Crazy. Uh as a backup, right? I I feel like I have to reiterate that point as a backup. Uh it’s it’s incredible seeing how he’s performed and Bedar kind of harped on that a little bit during his presser and saying like that was a huge part and being able to get this deal done making sure they have that reliability knowing if you know McKenzie Blackwood’s having an off night, you can rely on a guy like Scott Wedgewood to get the job done and you’re not like there’s no trust loss there. Yep. May sounds like Wedgwood may even play Sunday. So, uh, still a lot of trust there from the ABS coaching staff as they work Blackwood back in slowly. Uh, a lot more to talk about, but given that Wedgwood is the newest sign of the Avalanche or extension, is that I don’t think that’s a real word. We can make that a thing. Uh, we do have the interview with Wedgwood from yesterday. So, let’s hear what he had to say about the contract and staying with the ABS. What’s up, dude? Thank you. Scott, congratulations. Appreciate it. How’s just how’s it feel to to sign that extension? No, it’s awesome. Obviously, uh I was hoping it was just like, you know, in the back of my mind and things. We had talked about it in the summer and then season started and obviously got off to a good start and conversations were heading and I was trying to keep it in the back of my mind and just go to work and play for the team and things like that. But, you know, obviously um done on paper now and obviously really excited about it. A couple different teams. What excites you the most about being with Colorado? just a chance to win obviously um you know had that with Dallas and then went over to Nashville expecting it to be there too and tough situation at the start of the for the team there and then got traded here and it’s just been a perfect fit from getting here been warm you know welcome from everybody top to bottom from Kroni down to you know the people who cut the ice here it’s been a just a whole family type feeling and I try and integrate myself with everybody and it’s just been a place that my wife and I felt you know at home with so um obviously just uh you know a great hockey team you allow those guys in that room a lot of beers for putting me in this situation and and things like that, but it’s just been a good fit since I got here. How excited is your wife? Um, really excited. We were talking last night. It might have happened. So, I haven’t even had a chance to, you know, she she’d probably find it on social media before I can call her. So, um, we got it done right before skate started and then obviously come in here. So, I haven’t had a chance to really talk to her. But, as we last night, there was a few things to to finish up and if we got there this morning, it was going to be done. So, um, she’s probably blowing my phone up. But, uh, parents are in town, too. It’ll be really cool going home and seeing everybody after this. You said that this was something you had discussed or wanted to do in the summer. Uh, has this start kind of tempted you to kind of see what’s out there like in a starter role or was this always just where you wanted to be? Honestly, the start, you know, it makes you think and I think if like I’m a realist and looking at it from all sides, right? So started to play well and it’s like you know what could be if if you really want to go down that path and I was you know my wife and I were sitting there one day I was like honestly if I’m around the league right now and you’re looking at a team or a spot that you want to go to or you have a chance to play with a really good team and you know with Blackwood being a 50 to 60 game guy and getting you know 30 starts I want my situation as a as a situation that I’m in 33 you know haven’t really been a starter haven’t been categorized as a starter always want to be you know it’s uh never out of the question but it was a it was a just a thought around the whole picture. Like if I came here from the outside, it’s, you know, chance to play 30 plus games, chance to be on a really good team, chance of winning. Um, so when you put into that perspective, it’s uh, you know, it’s probably the best spot in the league to be a 1A1B with with Blackie and everything that comes with it. And being here, it’s it’s a perfect situation. So kind of made that, you know, choice on it a lot easier. 33 years old, like you you’ve been on good teams like Dallas is one of them, but 33 years old, your numbers are off the charts last year and this year. Like what what has worked so well for you here? the team honestly like you know I think my game’s de developed I’ve gotten a lot smarter I’ve obviously experienced more and understand what works for me and what doesn’t but you know playing behind a a contender you know for what we consider ourselves a really high chance team of winning it’s um you know it’s fun to play behind some superstars and they’re not coming at you so you get the benefit of them on your side but you know you have to do your job it’s not like every game is going to be 10 shots all from the blue line you have to make saves and do everything like that but um I just think since I got here and the way it all kind of started and you know talking with Jussi and Blackie the the confidence that the team’s given me just to go out there and fit into the room and kind of joke and not feel like it’s live or die every game. You know I’ve played on teams at the bottom of the league and it’s like if you don’t show up and you give up five it’s the end of the world or you know here if you make a mistake early we can score a goal and easy back into it. So, um, there’s just been a really calm feeling back there. And, you know, one, it’s a little bit of being experienced, and two, you have a team that has a chance to win every night, and that’s a a real big confidence builder for a goalie to get out there and be like, you know, I don’t technically have to be perfect. I want to be, but you can also, you know, get away with a few mistakes on this team. And it’s really just kind of eased me into, you know, just controlling my mind and and controlling myself out there. So, that, you know, that that’s all stuff, you know, on the ice with the team. How big of a difference does it make just for you dayto-day in your personal life to have like you said an ideal setup, a team that you like, a team that you have a chance to win where when you leave the rink, you don’t have to worry about any of that kind of stuff? Yeah. No, it’s it’s honestly huge. You know, especially with a kid at home now. It’s like you go home and before it was you sit there and I’d think about it a lot and now it’s like, you know, she’s all I think about going home and you know, we have another one on the way and there’s a lot of life stuff that’s happening as you get older and it’s obviously super exciting and you know, you think about money and things like that and all that. you start painting these what if pictures and where you want to go and do and everything. So, um just go home and have a good situation. You know, everyone’s healthy. It’s all you can ask for. And we’ve really fit in. You know, I was at Trader Joe’s last night and a guy walked up and we talked goalie gear for 5 10 minutes and he was just like, “This is the coolest thing ever.” And it was just, you know, random guy even in the meat section at Trader Joe’s. So, um you know, big hockey city. The fans have really, you know, taken to me. I’ve been able to be my, you know, my personality and show it. And, you know, the wedgie chance and all that stuff here. It’s, you know, you can’t not feel like you fit in and and feel welcome by everything. So, um, yeah, we like the outdoors, we love the walks, I mean, the weather here and everything. Situational wise, it’s been, uh, you know, like I said, a perfect fit and, you know, starting to obviously be home. You said on TNT Tuesday that you memorize the lines of all your opponents and their handedness. How long have you been doing that? Uh something I started in Dallas, they had uh Ben Bishop would come in as kind of like an adviser and he was really big into just videoing every goal that had, you know, been scored by the opponent, you know, within that week or whatever his his setup was. And it was trying to just how much info is too much and how much helps you. And it was just one of those things where I always felt like if I got scored on back door and there was like a pass that got made to a one-time and he scored and you look at back and you you kind of always go like, you know, could I have had it? Should I have had it? Or, you know, there’s no chance. It’s just the way you break it down. And there’s times when it’s like, okay, a guy passes to me one times and it’s like if I would have known he was a righty half a second sooner, I would have I made an adjustment. And it’s like you get caught in some of those situations. Like even take last game that Carlson goal, he’s a lefty in front, they go behind, hit him quick. And it’s like as I turned my head, it was I was a little bit slow to the play, but it’s like, you know, he’s a lefty. I don’t commit to my right post. And it’s like I should have known it. But you can’t be perfect as much as you want to be. But that’s kind of where I try and develop that mentality to give as much information to myself as possible where you’ll see goalies be like a like they throw their head back in the air. It’s just like, you know, you you look surprised, you were surprised. And if I can, you know, eliminate that, it’s one of the ways I kind of build confidence in knowing where everybody is. Does Blackwood do that now, too? Have you seen do that? I’m not sure. Um, he’s just being the net. That guy’s massive. So, no. Um, yeah, he’s got different approaches. I don’t know if he goes to that. Like the sheets’s there, so if he looks at it, he looks at it, but we haven’t really communicated that much on it. He’s uh a different style, but you know, he reads the game really well and things like that, but he’s a little bit more of a boxing frame where I feel like, not that I’m small, but I like to play at the top of my paint, use my use my feet a lot more, and to do that, you have to be maybe half a step ahead of what could happen next. There’s a lot of, you know, leaders and I’m sure vocal guys in that room, but are you someone that you felt that you can kind of settle into being a leader and, you know, impart some of this wisdom onto some of the younger guys? Yeah, I find that um as a goalie you’re muted a little bit, right? You can’t really yell at them for any reason on the for check or the back check or they turn a puck over. Like I’ve always, you know, had the mentality that even if all five of our guys fall and they pull the goalie and six on and it goes in on me and it goes in on me and you know the team’s really good like there’ll be a turnover and guy will come like my bad. I’m like no, like I I cheated or played it wrong. We all take responsibility and you know that’s my net. It goes past me no matter how it goes in. you know, hits a shin pad on Burns and goes top corner in that one game and he’s like, “Oh my god, I cheated too.” Like it doesn’t it just, you know, we’re all respectable of it. But, um, I think my favorite thing in the room is just blending the top and the bottom of it, whether it’s money or age or one guy likes hunting, one guy likes video games. Like, I just feel like I can wear a lot of hats and communicate in all facets there. And just be someone that, you know, if you got a question or a life issue and it’s not, you know, the top of the board, you just want to talk. It just feels like that goalie position and you’re a little weird. So, um, it’s it’s more that than I feel like it is like the hurrah and, you know, amp guys up. I feel like, you know, I’m happy. I’m always there in a in a bright smile and, you know, you can trust me back there. I’m not going to cause chaos. So, it’s not like, uh, you got to look over and be our goalie psycho. Like, we’re worried about it. That’s kind of the the approach I have. Last one’s for Scott. Author Rebecca is in the building tonight. Have you finished the fourth wing series? Finished. No, I got like six hours of the audio of the second one. So, uh, just had a a nice chat with her and stuff and got her process and she’s got a little bit of the goalie, uh, a goalie mindset the way her process goes, too. She’s got a white board and sitting there and her eyes are going, even the way she explained it, she looked like me on TNT. So, it’s uh, it’s nice to see other people get uh, get obsessed with their jobs, too. 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But a two-year deal for him at under a million dollars. How much of the work that Chris McFarland has done this season and this past off season, can we say he’s setting the abs up for long-term success? I mean, certainly he’s setting the abs up for short-term success. They’re trying to win a Stanley Cup right now, but has what he’s done helped push the ABS and maybe open that cup window for a little bit longer? I would say so. I would think the from what this looks like to me is again you see a mindset where there’s not a lot of turnover in the off season. You’re confident in almost every single thing you built at the trade deadline last season. you go into this season with that and seeing how much that’s worked out for what you’ve built on top of an already steady lineup just kind of proves that Chris McFarland really does like while maybe some of that trust is differently viewed from Bedar to McFarland McFarland really likes what he’s seeing from this group and being able to take a chance on a guy like Brenley getting him to sign for the team friendly deal that he did yep I think is is a great piece of work from him and seeing what they’re retaining as far as maybe some draft picks go and not having to expend any of those to fix what’s not broken, I think is huge. Yeah, I it it’s an interesting conversation and we’re still too far away from the trade deadline to really dig into specifics here, but it’s assuming reasonable health. Obviously, if you get injured, that changes the math on a lot of things. And Valenushkin week to week, by the way, we’ll we’ll cover that in a little bit. Um, the ABS trade deadline this year is set up to be a lot more about the ABS finding luxuries instead of solving problems. Yeah. And it feels like it’s been a while since the ABS have had the opportunity to approach a deadline like that. There aren’t the nine trades in season last year all felt pretty borderline emergencies in some cases where the ABS had to do something. This year it feels like the ABS are chilling. They can pick their spots on if they want to improve in certain ways and what type of players they want to target. similar to the off seasonason, right, where where the AS were willing to play things slow and pick up a couple of guys on good deals that they were specifically wanting. I obviously Chris McFarland is a conduit of the entire front office, right? The analysis, the other people in the front office from Sack as president all the way down to their smallest scout all deserve a ton of credit here. But how much credit does McFarland get for creating the culture that the Colorado Avalanche have? I mean, he’s given this team the foundation that it needs to fire on all cylinders the way that it has. I think it also speaks volumes the fact that, you know, we we’ve seen years past where draft picks have seen a seemed a little sparse. A lot of people talk about the the farm system for the Avalanche being one of the worst in the league. And if this is the worst in the league, by the way, like I’m not mad, but it might I mean I it might still be, but again, you’re talking about a system where they’re performing very well at the AHL level. So, I’m not exactly complaining, but seeing a lot of that turnover to get this team to where it’s at finally gets them into a steady position where they’re not risking a lot of that. They don’t have to risk a lot of that here for the next year or two. They can kind of ride with a team like I mean you’ve got Jack Jury to worry about. You’ve got a Victor Olifson to maybe worry about uh with expiring contracts. One of them being an RFA. Those are nice little pieces of business you’d like to get done. But if like that’s really the only thing this ABS team has to worry about and that’s a lot of what Chris McFarland sacrificed, you know, past development for like you you’re not getting super high draft picks. You’re you’re making do with what you’ve got there. You’re working with what prospects you have in the system, but now you’re setting yourself up for a point you don’t need to sacrifice a lot of those draft picks. So you can use that to build that system back up. And if that’s the way that this is working, I mean, that’s a smart move from a GM to solidify a much more open window for a way more elongated time period. And, you know, obviously aging curves are a thing that are going to play a factor in the ABS long-term success window. If guys fall off the aging cliff, there’s not a ton the ABS can do about that. But when you look at the ABS lineup, at very least, when you look at the forward core, Nathan McKinnon signed for four more years. Brock Nelson has this year and two more years after that. Gabe Landiskog signed for four four if you include this year four more years. You just extended Marty N is four forever. Val Nachushkin including this year has four more years. The only top six signing that you’re really looking at is Arturi Lechin and he has another year on his deal after this one too. The ABS don’t have a lot of work to do when it comes to the forward core. We’re talking about Jack Drury as your 3C is the most immediate one. I I think Victor Olivesson is probably going to price himself out of Colorado if we’re being honest about it. So, not super worried about him coming back. But the work that McFarland has done has created some security for the Colorado Avalanche moving forward. Yeah, they have the big Kale contract coming up in a couple of years that that’s obviously going to shake things up a little bit or really actually don’t think it will shake it up because he’s it’s Kale Mar. The ABS are going to do whatever it takes to keep him, but they’ll have to manage the financial side of that which shouldn’t be as hard given how the salary cap is exploding right now. But it’s a it’s a fine balance to strike. I it’s kind of a highwire act to try and win right now and also continue to set things up for success going forward. And I want to give CMAC the credit there for there’s been plenty of criticism of him over the last couple of years. I think some of it valid, some of it not. But where the ABS stand right now, it’s hard not to think that he’s done a fantastic job. And I think it’s so easy for fans and even us sometimes to look at the immediate instead of, you know, what this does down the road. Um I I know especially two years ago, like I’m sitting here looking at some of these trades, seeing him give try at least try to give away every single last draft pick the Avalanche had in order to I wish they could have got rid of all of them. We didn’t even have to cover the draft then. But it’s like he did all of that to see a lot of that reward still producing y today in in an ABS team. Like some of some of that loss from some of those assets gained have given the Avalanche the opportunity to become the steadfast team that they are today. And as it stands right now, the ABS assets really aren’t that thin. Sure, maybe they’re a bit thin on actual prospects, especially with Gavin Brinley graduating the NHL immediately. And yes, they are missing their first, their second, and their third in this year’s draft. But in 2027, they have their first in two seconds, and then they have all of their draft picks in 2028. So yeah, they’ve spent some of those resources and you do expect them to spend more at this deadline to some extent, but it’s not like we’re staring down three years of no first round picks at the present. They still have, depending on who you ask, they’re going to want them to use those picks or they’re going to want to spend them to trade for assets. They still have ammo to go do whatever they feel like is the right move to make and that’s if they need to. Again, like I I always view the trade deadline as one of those things I I’m not a huge fan of splashy moves at the deadline. Like unless there’s a dire need for a splashy like big guy on team Sydney Crosby then that’s more so for the vibes than anything. I’m not looking at that as like, oh, Sydney Crosby’s going to save this team. What’s what needs saving? Right. Fair. But yeah, that’s more of a vibe thing for me. But I I look at the trade deadline as a okay, you have maybe a hole on the second power play unit or you know, you’re you’re lacking a little bit of scoring depth in your bottom six or maybe your bottom pair needs some revamping. That’s what the trade deadline is for for me. Like the off season a lot of times it’s a gamble to sometimes wait on players to see if they make it there, but It’s often times not worth it in my eyes um to to sit there and spend on what could be a rental and and then your whole team’s back in the hole they started in and you’re maybe gambling with a thin market versus, you know, a McDavid a potential McDavid market in a couple years. I I don’t know. It’s the thing with rentals that I’ve always said is if you’re going to pay a big price for a big rental and it’s actually a rental, you better win. Yeah. That cost you better win. And CMAC has done a pretty darn good job of converting rentals into not rentals. Brock Nelson, a perfect example of that. And I I know they need more out of Nelson, not the conversation for today’s show. But they paid a hefty price to get Nelson and then were able to get him signed and and keep him in Colorado, which it just changes the math a little bit of what that trade is when you talk about a guy that continues to play uh in Colorado. Mhm. But I think the other side of this too, and again, I’m not going to bring up specific players because we’re way too far out. But when you look at the assets the ABS have and you look at what they have, when I talk about luxuries, what I mean is, okay, let’s say the ABS aren’t comfortable with their 4C position. They don’t necessarily have to go out and go trade for a 4C. Mhm. And not to say that Jack Drury hasn’t been good enough. I think he’s been a great 3C. But you can live in a world where there might be a slightly bigger piece the ABS could go out and get. Slot that piece in at 3C and move Jack Drury down to 4C. And how much of a luxury is that to be Jack Jury’s a competent 3C and now he’s playing your 4C is probably one of the best 4C’s in the league. And all of a sudden the ABS depth goes from already great to like unstoppable. Astronomic. Exactly. So there is some opportunity for that to happen. Of course, you have to make the right moves at the deadline. Things have to go a certain way, but right, it’s an opportunity that could be there for Colorado this year. We do need to take our second break of the show, though. So, let’s hit up a couple more of our sponsors. Our presenting sponsor for this show is Bet 365, and they’re more than just that. They’re an official partner of the Colorado Avalanche. They offer early payout offers for your NHL bets where you can get in and if your team gets up by three on a straight bet, you get paid out immediately. You don’t have to wait for the end of the game. You can sign up today with the DNVR365 code. Put $10 in your account. Bet $5 on anything. 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I think there’s been an interesting conversation over the last couple of years with the Colorado Avalanche locker room and some of this is Gabe Landiskog has been out. Some of this is uh pieces coming in and out of the Avalanche, but I I guess I’ll just ask it in simple terms. Have the Avalanche built a tighter knit locker room this year? I would say so. I I think the situation I I I didn’t join the team until a couple games or the beat until a couple games in last year, but even seeing the growth from when I joined to now is I mean I hate using the same word over and over again, but astronomical. Like it’s the difference is crazy. seeing what Blackwood and what Wedgwood have done, especially now that they’ve kind of ingrained themselves in like it’s easy to call yourself a good locker room guy and then, you know, go in and do it and see the change immediately, but being able to build off of that, build the relationships you have and seeing how that affects the other guys. You see a more light-hearted Nathan McKinnon in some cases, which is really hard to do. I mean, the anger still flares up sometimes. Oh, absolutely. But I I feel like I’ve like he seems more in a good mood than in recent times. And I guess it’s easy to be where this team is at, right? He is a very the best team in the NHL helps, right? Like he’s a very emotionally driven player. If the team’s not doing well, you often see different versions of McKinnon. But seeing what a guy like McKenzie Blackwood, like Scott Wedgewood, even like a Jack Drury coming in and doing what they’ve done, they seem a lot more cohesive. And not only does that help for, you know, good locker room vibes, that’s always great. But seeing what that does out on the ice, too. We’ve talked a lot about how the chemistry just looks to be on a different level this year. And a lot of that has to do with some of those pieces and what they’re doing off the ice. I think I definitely think that’s part of the conversation for the ABS for sure. And it yeah, of course, winning makes everything vibe better, but it does feel like there are are some quality connections uh across the team, whether it be linemates or, you know, guys off the ice. and Gabe Landiskog being that leader in a sense for the Colorado Avalanche. You’re the person in the locker room, so obviously you would know better than me, but it it certainly the vibes are up. Not just because the abs are good, but because the abs are connected. Yeah. You know, and it it I think it speaks volumes, too, knowing that a lot of that is coming from the crease. Yeah. A lot of that’s coming from a Scott Wedgewood and a Kenzie Blackwood who are not out there skating every every shift with the guys like they can’t yell across to McKinnon on the other side of the ice be like you’re doing great buddy or like giving advice in those situations and knowing that that room is still feeding a lot off of what a guy like Scott Wedgewood is doing or or Mackenzie Blackwood with some of the jokes that he cracks. I mean, his his conference yesterday talking about Kelly comes to mind and seeing that they can kind of joke around with each other like that and and that does translate the way that it does from that far back on the ice. It’s it’s really cool to see. Let’s circle back and talk about maybe not Nathan McKinnon directly, but McKinnon sitting at the top of the NHL with the points lead, obviously having an incredible season. I’m curious about the rest of the league though. You go look behind Nathan McKinnon and all of a sudden, well, there’s a 21-year-old kid. Oh, there’s a 19-year-old. Conor McDavid is back in second. So, I will or at least based off uh points. So, for now, for now, so Edmonton keeps ridiculous comebacks. But you have a Mlin Cellabrina, you have a Connor Baddard, you have some other young kids that are are really putting up the numbers. Is it finally here? Bailey, is your generation finally taking over the NHL? They’re a little younger than I am. I don’t know if I can call it. Not that much. You’re closer to them than you are to me. I’ll put it to you that way. I It is really fun to see a lot of these guys who I I mean, some of them were first round draft picks for a reason. A guy like Connor Baddard who was slated to be the best of his generation. Even when a guy like Mlin Celibbrini came along to to see him performing the way that he has for a Chicago team that is, you know, better but still not great. They’re not there yet for sure. Uh Mlin Celibbrini who is doing whatever he can to drag San Jose from whatever depths they’re in and and trying. He’s trying really hard. There’s a lot of dead weight there. But yeah, to kind of see that merge like I I’m just looking down like seeing them among names like a McDavid, like a McKinnon, like a Mika Rantin, like a Willie Knander, David Posternok even. Yep. Like it’s that that’s fun to watch and think about like if they’re performing that way now at 19, 20 years old. Imagine what that looks like seven years down the road. More gas in the tank for sure. Yeah. Yeah. They’re keeping up and pacing guys or at least trying to pace guys like McKinnon, McDavid, they haven’t hit their prime. Y that’s I I mean for for just a gen the general everyday, you know, I pay attention to the league type hockey fan. That’s so cool to watch. Put you on the spot. Who do you like more, Badard or Cabbrini? Oh, for the vibe, like if we’re talking personality vibe, I got to give that to Celebr. Um, if we’re talking work ethic and and drive and the way that they’ve kind of dedicated themselves to the game, I have to give that to Bedard. I I love like watching a lot of his highlights from before he got drafted and then seeing how he was able to translate that immediately to the NHL level has been really cool to watch. Um, it it’s the most exciting thing for me watching that Chicago Blackhawks team. It’s wa watching how the team is kind of building around him too and supporting him in the way that they have. Obviously, again, he’s leading the uh or at least among the top five leaders in the league. Like that’s that’s really cool. I I’m a Cabbrini guy all the way. Fair. Cabbrini is the truth. I think he’s awesome. Not that Connor Bernard isn’t awesome also, but no, I I think I lean more towards the CBrini conversation. Again, just vibes, but also again doing what he’s doing to pull San Jose from their depths and and trying to at least give a really bad team a decent chance to say like, we don’t completely suck. We’re not the worst. We’re not Calgary. We don’t completely suck. We just kind of suck. But that’s fine. It’s hard to it’s hard to say who will come up in the league um later or whatever who’s going to be called during this year this that next year but do you think like a Celabbrini and a Bard will kind of follow the lines of the Conor McDavid McKinnon conversation Crosby like but like that kind of pairing that the NHL always likes to do between a couple of guys that are roughly the same age and just comparing them for the rest of their lives. I don’t think there’s enough of a personal connection there for that kind of thing. I I think it’s fun to compare rookies. Like I think kind of looking at numbers based on how good these two guys were heading into their respective drafts, but I I don’t think it becomes a McKinnon. I don’t know. It’s hard. Again, it it is really early to say just because we we’ve seen a lot of McDavid’s years as an NHL. We’ve seen a lot of Nathan McKinnon and we can sit there and say now that they are generational talents. Like these guys do not grow on trees. They don’t come around every, you know, couple years. I think we’ll be able to better gauge that maybe in four or five years. I mean, that’s that is the McKinnon storyline, right? the there were no comparisons between McKinnon and McDavid and McKinnon’s first five years. He had a really good rookie year, but then it was a handful of down years before Nathan McKinnon really became the Nathan McKinnon that we know today. So, so, but that’s what I’m saying. No, I’m agreeing. Yeah. Yeah. We’ll know in like four years whether or not this is maybe another run-of-the-mill top six forward versus a Nathan McKinnon. They they’ve been elite for not that their other seasons weren’t good, but they’ve been this good for one month of NHL hockey. So definitely very early on that front. Does a guy like Leo Carlson pacing with these guys surprise you at all? Yeah. And I think it’s a little bit fake. Okay. Not that not that Leo Carlson isn’t really good, but he’s not the caliber of shooter that he’s currently shooting this season that’s going to come back down to earth. I think much like the Anaheim Ducks are outperforming maybe how good they actually are this season. I expect that to slow down. Carlson currently shooting 24%. Just not sustainable in in any real way for I mean there are maybe a handful of shooters in the history of the NHL that have shot that well across the course of their careers. Leo Carlson is not one of them. No, I I do not believe in Leo Carlson being that guy. 16% shooter, 15% shooter, maybe. And that’s like pretty good. Is he going to be I I’ll put it this way. If Carlson continues to be, just call it a point per game guy. We don’t have to be that specific about it. The Anaheim Ducks turnaround, while I don’t think it’s this good, is probably coming a lot quicker than than maybe people like myself expect it. Uh guys like that can be a difference maker in a lot of ways for you. Cutter Gothier has been great there, too. Some of the trades they’ve made are starting to look real, real smart. So, credit to them there. Since you’re bringing up some of these guys, I guess technically they aren’t rookies, but I am, you know, I joked the other day, Gavin Brinley for Calder. Obviously not going to happen. No, but I don’t. Who’s more fun, Matthew Schaefer or Ivan Demidov? I’m tempted to give that to a guy like Demidov just because of the Lane Hudson conversation. Yeah, it’s like having that duo together. It It reminds It’s like the This is probably a really big stretch of a comparison, but it’s like watching a a rookie Nathan McKinn and Kale Mar type situation where you’re you’re watching two of some of the best rookies in their respective rights. I I I don’t know. I I think Matt the Matthew Matthew Schaeer story line is kind of cool. I I have a feeling that’s who’s going to end up winning it. But I I love the Demodv conversation. Yeah, it it’s interesting because Demov is playing on a team that’s pretty good so far this year and Montreal and the Islanders are meh this year and Matthew Schaefer is doing a ton of work for them. No, but let again that’s that’s what makes it so much more interesting too is Montreal’s got a lot of production coming from other places. Yeah. And Demadov’s still pacing a lot of those guys. And excitement factor, Demov is crazy fun to watch. I mean, that guy can have a lot of fun with the puck. I’ll put it to you that way. Whereas Schaefer, not that he isn’t really good, not that he isn’t deserving of the Calder potentially, but plays a not as dazzling game is as you know, he’s a defenseman, so of course that’s Right. Right. Right. Uh, also a statistical reminder here. This was true at game 10. It’s still true at game 18. Kale Macar has more assists than any other defenseman has points. Still. Mhm. 20% of the way into the season. He also has as many goals as only Matthew Schaefer has as many goals as a defenseman as Kale Mar does. Kale Mar is currently fourth in the league in assists. Yeah, he’s top 10 in points as the only defenseman in the top 10 in points. Yeah, there is something that flies under the radar a little bit. I talked about this a little bit with McKinnon too because the expectations are so high, but Kale Mar is just kind of trucking along. Has as many points as Marty Nous does on the season. Is doing Kale Mar things in a little bit of a quiet manner. And to me, that’s almost scary where you you’re thinking, “Oh, if if Kale Macar can start scoring on the power play a little bit more, we could legitimately be talking about an all-time NHL defenseman season.” I mean, point per game defenseman, I I want to kind of go through the last couple games here. Um, Buffalo, one point in the form of an assist. Anaheim, one assist. Vancouver two assists, Edmonton two goals, but you know, everybody was performing well that night. The last game that he went without a point was Tampa Bay. And I I just wasn’t a huge fan of that. He was pretty bad. Kind of bland in that game. But this is a guy, we’re talking about a generational talent in Kale Mar, generational defenseman. Doesn’t come along very often. who’s kind of like I don’t want to say flying under the radar, but like he he’s not really showing up on in the form of goals the way you’re expecting a guy who just got 30 goals last season to do. Like he he’s racking up assists and very quietly climbing his way that way. And I think that’s I mean seeing how he’s kind of stepped up once that scoring edge gets going that makes an already scary defenseman look terrifying. If I put on my glasses and go, “Well, actually,” and you you’d like look at the actual dictionary definition of generational. Yeah, I think the NHL probably overuses the term a good bit. Probably. I don’t think there’s any overuse when it comes to Kale Mar. He is that guy for his generation of defenseman. He There is one of one. No, this is why we keep saying like when that extension comes along and I’m saying when because the Avalanche are going to do anything they can to happen or make it happen. July 1st of this year it’s a blank check and I can’t imagine any other player at least there not many other players in the league that teams will do that for. No, apparently Carrill Capri off in Minnesota but that’s about McDavid. I was going to say McDavid and even then that shocked the heck out of me, but there it just proves my point like there’s not many players you do that for. And the way Kale Mar is performing right now, not scoring as many goals as maybe you’d expect a guy like that to do who does tend to push up on on the blue line a little bit more, but he’s racking up assists and and that’s how he’s pacing all of defensemen. That’s how he’s not not just top 10, top 20. It like he’s the only defenseman. Yep. Within the top 20. It’s not close. Not like not paying attention to like I I guess you have to pay attention to position, but like he’s the only defenseman among all forwards. Yeah. Like in the top 20. That is insane. By the way, the ABS have three players in the top 10 scorers right now. Mar, McKinnon, and Nas. I’d be just pointing it out. No real other point than that to make, but team might be pretty good. Yes, we’ve given a ton of credit to their depth and they deserve it, but also that uh those top three guys also pretty good. Yeah. So, it’s th this team, again, I I don’t know how many more different ways to say that this team is really fun to watch. And knowing that a lot of the top end talent that this team possesses is performing the way that they are with help. Like, it’s with with help. Like, it’s not just these guys who are standing out on any given night for this team. It’s almost everybody on any given night in their own respective roles. Again, you see the fourth line pop off and do do things of their own. Second line looked incredible last night in any given night. Like this is not just the top guys being who they are supposed to be for this Avalanche team. Absolutely. They need to be that good. Especially as we can bring up the injury report here. They’re starting to get guys back like Sam Gerard just came back, but Logan Okconor still out. Not expected to play on this home stand. So maybe still a little bit of a ways away. And now with the Nushkin injury, it sounded more optimistic than than negative, but is still listed as week to week. So is going to miss some time. Given what we just saw against Buffalo, given the depth we’ve talked about with the ABS. Are are my glasses a little bit too burgundy tinted to think the ABS can not just survive without Nushkin, but thrive without him? I don’t think that’s it’s not a stretch at all, I would say. And that’s not any sort of knock against Nushkin. I I love the way that he has performed so far this year. Has been a incredible for that second line. One of the more noticeable guys while Nelson’s been trying to find his game. But this team is kind of built on a next manup mentality. you kind of have to be with how last season went and that that’s kind of the mentality this team starts to get into. And so yes, you miss Nushkin. This is also something like you again talk about mentality, talk about things they’re used to. They’re used to Nushkin missing stretches of time. It’s true. Pretty common. Yeah, it’s it’s not an uncommon occurrence for Nushkin to not play 82 games in a season. So that next manup mentality is already kind of there, I think, with that. You always hope, but it’s always there. And they’ve learned to thrive in those situations regardless. Like you you see how the team stepped up in Sam Gerard’s absence. Yep. You see how the fourth line’s been able to perform without a really trusted bottom six guy like Logan O’Connor and they they’ve still thrived. It’s it’s not a stretch by any means. They’re that deep. They’re that good. I guess it’s uh I guess it’s good to be an ABS fan right now. Hey, you know, maybe that wagon comment wasn’t so far off. Maybe. Uh, look, the ABS are currently the best team in the NHL. They currently run the longest active win streak in the NHL, which is only five. Not not crazy, but you take a look at the the stretch of 10 games that they’re in. And yeah, it’s it’s five direct games won in a row, but they are, you know, also 70 and one in this stretch. So that’s what 15 out of 16 possible points. already a better stretch of 10 than the first 10 of the season was. Yeah. No, we and you talk about the experimentation period, too. And it seems like they came out of that with swinging with what what they’ve got. They fixed what they needed to fix. The the points that we were hammering on so heavily in that first 10 game stretch are things we’re really not talking about as much anymore. If we are, it’s like, do we still need to be talking about this? Yep. And if so, why? And a lot of times that answer, I’ve noticed with us, is usually no. So, which which is a really exciting trait for a team like this. You’re talking about a team that ideally should make like they’re built to make a deep run. Absolutely. This year. Uh, and I’m not just talking about like, you know, ending regular season on top and and going deep in pre in postseason. Like that those two both can be true at the same time. This team through this next stretch of 10 g this second stretch of 10 games has shown so many traits of what it means to be a championship team. Yep. And I think I mean you talk about you know sustainability, you know, are they frauds? are is this, you know, they’re kind of fake. I don’t think that is this ABS team at all in this. I don’t think there’s any fakeness. And I and I’m trying to come at this with a mo the most unbiased lens possible. And in talking with people that I have outside of this market, the abs look scary. And it’s not because like, oh, they’re on a hot run now, it’s going to fall off later. Like, they genuinely look terrifying. Yeah. it and they plan to look terrifying a month, two months, four months from now. It’s it’s all about consistency in the NHL. We’ve harped on it so much, not just for the ABS, but but leaguewide and what the ABS are doing on a consistent basis. Yeah, they’re not going to score nine goals on a consistent basis. They’re not even going to score six goals a night on a consistent basis, but dominating teams at five on five, playing a defensive game where everyone on the team is willing to step up and make that play, whether it’s blocking a shot or or taking a hit or whatever it might be. Those are the type of things that you look at and go, “Okay, this is repeatable. The ABS can do these things every single night and they have yet to really lose a significant number of games. They I know they had a four game losing streak, but again, overtime losses. They’re doing this in ways that don’t make you go, hm. Especially when you compare to some of the other top teams in the league right now. Dallas winning a ton of games, outskilling teams, deserve to win these games, but you look at them early. They drop seven on Montreal on like 30% shooting and you go, “Well, that’s not that’s not really sustainable.” You’re watching them survive on the power play when they’re getting their heads kicked in at five on five some nights. Well, that doesn’t really feel sustainable. You look over to the other side, apparently Jack Hughes just got hurt, so New Jerseyy’s done. Forget it. I I don’t actually know. Hughes might be totally fine for all I know, but still not a great blow. I think you see Anaheim is a great example of a young team that the young and we’re too stupid to know any better and we’re just going to go out there and have fun and play some exciting hockey. Yeah, the ABS have the exciting hockey, but they have the intelligence to the veteran experience to say we know when it’s time to start making the right decisions in a hockey game. When it’s time to start holding down the fort a little bit and like you mentioned, I think through the first 10 games, there was a lot of mistakes that you wanted to see the ABS clean up despite the success that they were having. And while it’s not a perfect hockey team by any stretch, the number of stakes has trended down significantly over these last eight games. That’s what the first 10 games is supposed to be. Yeah. I think any team who comes out in the first 10 looking perfect is a team I’m immediately checking off as like this is not a team I’m expecting to be where they are currently in 82 games. Yeah. Like that’s things are bound to change. You grow as a team, you learn as a team, things start to shift naturally. It’s it’s just what happens. But and and that it that is true of this ABS team. This ABS team was by no means perfect through 10 games. They’re nowhere near perfect through 20. I I still think, you know, guys like Landiskog, like Nelson, like Bednar are right. There’s like this is a great team, but this is a team that still has things to work on. And that’s that’s just kind of is it is what it is. But I think you believe in the ABS to keep taking those next steps forward, right? This is the team that call it the hunger that they’ve been calling it or call it the will to win, whatever you want. You you can see that fire in the ABS this year that they’re going to push forward and when we get to the playoffs, they’re going to have to go out and win and earn it. And who knows what happens when we get there, but right now there’s no reason not to believe in them. Yeah, we’ve officially made it, chat. It’s not an NHL season until there are crypto or porn bots in our chat. So, we’re back, baby. Let’s go. I feel like they’ve already kind of hit Twitter, so seeing the migrate to YouTube. Great. Yeah. Awesome. That’s how you know that channel’s growing when you’ve got bots in your chat. Confirmed. By the way, consider liking and subscribing. 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Even if the rest of the Central has fallen off, doesn’t matter how good you’ve been all season. The NHL is a how good have you been lately league. So AB’s got to keep it up. ABS have a really nice stretch of games to prove that they’re not a team that plays down to their opponents. Don’t do that. Just win. Just win. It’s that easy, baby. We’re going to get out of here. We appreciate all of y’all. We are the DNVR Avalanche podcast presented by Bet365. And we’ll be back on Sunday for the game.

The Avs have already extended three separate players during this season including Brindley, Necas, and Wedgewood. Are the Colorado Avalanche now more secure in the long term and how much impact have the signings had in the immediate? Plus who are the best players in the NHL right now?

Intro – 0:00
Wedgewood extension – 2:30
Hear from Wedgewood – 6:51
Set up for long term success – 17:50
Locker room vibes – 31:55
Are the young guns here? – 35:30
Who’s more fun? – 42:40
Cale Makar is good at hockey – 44:40
Can we perform without Nichushkin – 49:30
Final thoughts – 59:32

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