This is just awful man. We need to find a real route runner somehow.
November 14, 2025
This is just awful man. We need to find a real route runner somehow.
36 comments
We won’t be able to this season thanks to our masterful roster construction
Does it matter if we’re going to run 3 TE sets all the time?
Can we get AB back on a work furlough program?
DK is overrated. I bet Seattle was excited to get a 2nd and not have to overpay him 30m per season. Bold move Kahn.
This is why I expect a WR in the first in Pittsburgh. There just aren’t enough qbs to go around in the top of the first round. I think Makai Lemon would be an absolute slam dunk. He’s always open
They chose to maintain draft capital over ‘win now’ pieces. It is what it is
Seems like a fever dream that there was a time where we literally could not miss on every single WR we drafted.. any of our early 2010’s WR 4 or 5s would be our WR2 this year lol
Egbuka is mid?!? How is he being fed so well then?
Are we really going to trust something where Rashod Bateman’s garbage ass self is the true median player? I dunno man.
“Nah man we have CA3”
“CA3 is a top 64 WR”
“Calvin Austin is a legit WR2”
* delusional homers all season long and the offseason
Don’t tell them about how moving Pickens without a real plan was stupid, that an offense designed to rely on one low-tier WR1 is bound to fail or an injury away from collapsing, or that DK is 26th in receiving yards while Pickens is 4th.
“Man beaters” sounds almost sinister
Matthew Golden, “Bring your boy over here I got something for him” *whip cracks*
According to this chart Juju is better than Metcalf.
I’m about ready to say Metcalf is a solid downgrade from Pickens. But at least he’s a lot more expensive.
On the bright side, not getting Shaheed or Meyers looks like it was wise to not try too hard for them. They wouldn’t be budging this needle too far by the look of it.
Metcalf is sore to see.
Not too happy with the DK move, never really viewed him as a legitimate #1 receiver.
I am pretty shocked overall how much the team has neglected the WR position. We really had a run of drafting Juju-Claypool-Pickens all in the second round, and since then we have only put a fourth rounder into the undersized Austin, an a third into Wilson whom we refuse to play.
It sees like a philosophy switch with Kahn+Weidl prioritizing the lines (which I agree with) but damn. I’m tired of seeing WR be a need
Focus on the bright side…We don’t have to watch Van Jefferson attempt to get open anymore?
No one wanted to hear about DK’s shortcomings when the trade happened.
Where’s the section for women beaters?
Gee if only someone, anyone could have predicted this. It’s almost like we don’t have a good WR2.
I think one more offseason of sitting on our hands should do it…
Should have had another route runner but he’s down in Dallas so we could get draft picks for, checks notes, Arch Manning. GHANTA!
Mr. Basically Caca
DK is bigger, faster, and stronger than pickens. I have no idea how pickens is so much better in man coverage.
Genuine question: why didn’t we try to sign Davante Adams? Was he too expensive? Him and Puka are deadly together
We could use 2 new WRs in 2026. One fairly high in the draft, another in FA or trade. But desirable FA targets won’t want to come to Pittsburgh for bad stats, unless we offer money they can’t decline.
Teams can really focus on DK, and our schemes are (still) terrible. Completely predictable
This is why blaming QB’s will never get this team anywhere. If you don’t have receivers who can get open it doesn’t matter who the QB is. When Xavier Worthy was hurt and Rice was suspended, Mahomes struggled and everyone was calling him washed. Isn’t it interesting how when those two came back his numbers went back to MVP conversation and the Chiefs are winning again?
DK is overrated and he when he gets doubled WE HAVE NO WEAPONS
The fact we only even have 2 WR listed tells it all
somebody on this sub said Austin is better than tyreke hill 😂
Our #1 is like #50 lmao
another “corrected” metric that is basically useless. from the source website on how the metric (ASS) is calculated:
>Now consider a wide receiver running a 6-yard hitch on 2nd-and-17 against a defender lined up 8 yards off the line of scrimmage and dropping into Cover 3. In this instance, the receiver is not required to create separation from the defender as the route and coverage combination ensure the play’s outcome is entirely determined by what the receiver does after the catch.
The two examples above are easy to identify and differentiate, but several situations inhabit a gray area between the polar extremes. Our team of charters work tirelessly to identify the situations that inhabit that gray area and isolate the situations that are dependent on the receiver creating separation from the defender.
With all of these factors taken into account, grading on a -2 to +4 scale on every route, Separation Score can accurately identify the league’s best separators (Tank Dell), the worst (Quentin Johnston), and everyone in between.
it’s literally PFF grades with extra steps…
If only we had some other receiver that was really good to go with DK. The Cowboys have two pretty good receivers, maybe we could trade for one of them.
Remember how good Dioante Johnson was running routes?
Kinda an odd question, how do you get LESS then 0.0 separation? Wouldn’t that be like he’s inside of you physically??
How much of this is a result of throwing the ball so quickly?
The steelers offense is geared around very short average depth of target (ADOT).
This makes it harder for two reasons:
If you have short throws, you are giving the wrs less time to generate separation.
and
If you dont have a reliable 10-15 yard depth in passing, it allows the defense to play close the line and crowd the areas we are throwing.
I am not saying we have great WRs, but since we moved to the one fastest time to pass style of offense, back before even when Ben got hurt we started doing this. We are not gonna fix it under tomlin, unless he changes style dramatically.
36 comments
We won’t be able to this season thanks to our masterful roster construction
Does it matter if we’re going to run 3 TE sets all the time?
Can we get AB back on a work furlough program?
DK is overrated. I bet Seattle was excited to get a 2nd and not have to overpay him 30m per season. Bold move Kahn.
This is why I expect a WR in the first in Pittsburgh. There just aren’t enough qbs to go around in the top of the first round. I think Makai Lemon would be an absolute slam dunk. He’s always open
They chose to maintain draft capital over ‘win now’ pieces. It is what it is
Seems like a fever dream that there was a time where we literally could not miss on every single WR we drafted.. any of our early 2010’s WR 4 or 5s would be our WR2 this year lol
Egbuka is mid?!? How is he being fed so well then?
Are we really going to trust something where Rashod Bateman’s garbage ass self is the true median player? I dunno man.
“Nah man we have CA3”
“CA3 is a top 64 WR”
“Calvin Austin is a legit WR2”
* delusional homers all season long and the offseason
Don’t tell them about how moving Pickens without a real plan was stupid, that an offense designed to rely on one low-tier WR1 is bound to fail or an injury away from collapsing, or that DK is 26th in receiving yards while Pickens is 4th.
“Man beaters” sounds almost sinister
Matthew Golden, “Bring your boy over here I got something for him” *whip cracks*
According to this chart Juju is better than Metcalf.
I’m about ready to say Metcalf is a solid downgrade from Pickens. But at least he’s a lot more expensive.
On the bright side, not getting Shaheed or Meyers looks like it was wise to not try too hard for them. They wouldn’t be budging this needle too far by the look of it.
Metcalf is sore to see.
Not too happy with the DK move, never really viewed him as a legitimate #1 receiver.
I am pretty shocked overall how much the team has neglected the WR position. We really had a run of drafting Juju-Claypool-Pickens all in the second round, and since then we have only put a fourth rounder into the undersized Austin, an a third into Wilson whom we refuse to play.
It sees like a philosophy switch with Kahn+Weidl prioritizing the lines (which I agree with) but damn. I’m tired of seeing WR be a need
Focus on the bright side…We don’t have to watch Van Jefferson attempt to get open anymore?
No one wanted to hear about DK’s shortcomings when the trade happened.
Where’s the section for women beaters?
Gee if only someone, anyone could have predicted this. It’s almost like we don’t have a good WR2.
I think one more offseason of sitting on our hands should do it…
Should have had another route runner but he’s down in Dallas so we could get draft picks for, checks notes, Arch Manning. GHANTA!
Mr. Basically Caca
DK is bigger, faster, and stronger than pickens. I have no idea how pickens is so much better in man coverage.
Genuine question: why didn’t we try to sign Davante Adams? Was he too expensive? Him and Puka are deadly together
We could use 2 new WRs in 2026. One fairly high in the draft, another in FA or trade. But desirable FA targets won’t want to come to Pittsburgh for bad stats, unless we offer money they can’t decline.
Teams can really focus on DK, and our schemes are (still) terrible. Completely predictable
This is why blaming QB’s will never get this team anywhere. If you don’t have receivers who can get open it doesn’t matter who the QB is. When Xavier Worthy was hurt and Rice was suspended, Mahomes struggled and everyone was calling him washed. Isn’t it interesting how when those two came back his numbers went back to MVP conversation and the Chiefs are winning again?
DK is overrated and he when he gets doubled WE HAVE NO WEAPONS
The fact we only even have 2 WR listed tells it all
somebody on this sub said Austin is better than tyreke hill 😂
Our #1 is like #50 lmao
another “corrected” metric that is basically useless. from the source website on how the metric (ASS) is calculated:
>Now consider a wide receiver running a 6-yard hitch on 2nd-and-17 against a defender lined up 8 yards off the line of scrimmage and dropping into Cover 3. In this instance, the receiver is not required to create separation from the defender as the route and coverage combination ensure the play’s outcome is entirely determined by what the receiver does after the catch.
The two examples above are easy to identify and differentiate, but several situations inhabit a gray area between the polar extremes. Our team of charters work tirelessly to identify the situations that inhabit that gray area and isolate the situations that are dependent on the receiver creating separation from the defender.
With all of these factors taken into account, grading on a -2 to +4 scale on every route, Separation Score can accurately identify the league’s best separators (Tank Dell), the worst (Quentin Johnston), and everyone in between.
it’s literally PFF grades with extra steps…
If only we had some other receiver that was really good to go with DK. The Cowboys have two pretty good receivers, maybe we could trade for one of them.
Remember how good Dioante Johnson was running routes?
Kinda an odd question, how do you get LESS then 0.0 separation? Wouldn’t that be like he’s inside of you physically??
How much of this is a result of throwing the ball so quickly?
The steelers offense is geared around very short average depth of target (ADOT).
This makes it harder for two reasons:
If you have short throws, you are giving the wrs less time to generate separation.
and
If you dont have a reliable 10-15 yard depth in passing, it allows the defense to play close the line and crowd the areas we are throwing.
I am not saying we have great WRs, but since we moved to the one fastest time to pass style of offense, back before even when Ben got hurt we started doing this. We are not gonna fix it under tomlin, unless he changes style dramatically.