Cashman really Big Brained this one. Now we have less money to go after Tucker or Belli if they’re sticking with Hal’s demand to stay below the Cohen tax, and we also now have an outfield so crowded that we almost definitely need to trade Dominguez or Jones, or even both (which is fine, if we get a good return, I suppose).
This. Sucks.
I’m kinda amazed he did
U gotta be kidding me man
Felt like there was a high chance of this happening given the impending lockout and how unconvinced the league seemed that his 2025 is repeatable
To put some positive spin on it, with healed hamstrings he should at least be a neutral defensive CF as he was before hamstring injuries slowed him down a lot. His savant page is also pretty encouraging that his batting adjustments were not just a fluke
I would rather not be paying him 22 M but I’m not that upset that we brought back one of the better outfielders in baseball last season
I still don’t get why it was even offered tbh.
Regression to the mean incoming.
Cashman is going to have to get really creative now.
While I leaned toward thinking Grisham would reject the QO, there was always a decent chance he’d accept it.
Wrote this 11 days ago:
>Grisham was a career .213/.313/.384 bat (in 2,250 PA) prior to 2025. Teams are gonna look at that and worry about regression. Now he’s got a draft penalty attached as well. And his speed/defense seem to be sliding in the wrong direction. I could see Grisham being stuck unsigned in February because teams took other options and didn’t want to give him a big deal. So he could look at that $22M QO and think, “I’m not gonna beat that AAV, I can go back to New York and prove my bat isn’t a fluke and try free agency again without the draft penalty.”
The FO’s tepid response to Tucker makes me feel like they wanted Grish to accept and to run back the outfield again
I hope he just repeats 2025
OK is this ideal? No. But Grisham was solid this year, and a 1 year deal isn’t bad. The big issue now would be the Yankees deciding between Belli/Tucker and Jasson full-time in the OF. I worry they will say they don’t want to go in on either of those guys now… but as long as they don’t give up on that, this gives them OF depth.
FUCK
Cashman is a fucking idiot, Trent is a mediocre player that had a career year and was garbage in the playoffs. No chance they sign Bellinger or Tucker now
Unserious organization is unserious. More at 11
I know everyone is bugging out, but what if he feels that he unlocked something last year and wants to show teams so he might get a $100+ mm deal after this year. If he didn’t feel that way he would have taken a deal ahead of the possible lockout next year.
woof
So there was no market for him after all. Or at least in the numbers he was looking.
Way to go Brian!
This team is about to put the exact same roster on the field arent they?
Fuck you Cashman
And fuck you Trent too
It’s not my money so ok. But if it means they’re out on Belli or going to lowball him or this stops them from getting starting pitching help, then it sucks.
I get the concern about less payroll to go after FA but in terms of the player, If he can repeat similar production I’m not complaining.
I get this is not ideal because that’s 22 MM AAV tied up to Grish, but is the “real” dagger that it ups the luxury tax penalty? Can anyone explain it more deeply if they know it?
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Damn
I’m honestly shocked I thought he’d go for a multi-year deal for less AAV since he just had what will surely be the best year of his career. This truly sucks though, yes he had an awesome year but he’s an obvious regression candidate and $22 million is STEEP
Great….
I mean this sarcastically this isn’t really great
FIRE CASHMAN
what was the logic of extending the offer? is there any benefit to the team? is it just allowing them to match a deal he signed elsewhere?
There goes the offseason. Bellinger is as good as gone and that also means no Tucker.
its only for a year if he slugs and has a .750 ops solid player
I’m going to be the comment of hope on this otherwise negative thread. Here’s to hoping he can build on his year. His power looked real, I really enjoyed watching him play. They should still go after Tucker or Bellinger and Imai. It ain’t my money so fuck it. Señor Sleep, prove everyone wrong.
Why are we paying a role player over $20 mil???!
I think they got PTSD from the DJ and Hicks contract and they don’t want to invest that many years into Bellinger.
I’m not worried it’s only one year and it’s insurance (albeit expensive) and it’s not surprising he took it. It’s so much money for only one season and he can still get paid next season. Basic economics dictate that taking more money and less years will net you more over the long term. 1 year for 22 is better than 3 years for 45 from an economic perspective. This is good for everyone involved. Congrats to Grish he balled out and earned it.
They tried to steal a draft pick and are not hamstrung. Fucking idiots.
He was supposed to go get an 80 mil dollar bag and we were gonna draft the next superstar with the comp /s
This offseason is a joke already.
😆
Genius move on his end. Had a great year and there was no way he was touching that kind of money on the open market with draft compensation tied to him and any sort of hesitation that may come from teams about long term deals to non elite talent with a lockout potentially in the future. This salary alone tops what he’s made for his career. It’s not ideal but I’m not at all shocked he picked it up.
Honestly no one should be shocked by this. Hal and Cashman were very comfortable extending the QO knowing this was likely to happen.
Don’t understand the outrage. Best case scenario he has a similar year last year (.812 OPS, 34 HRS is production nobody should be complaining about), worst case scenario is he regresses to the mean and becomes a platoon bat outfielder and leaves in the offseason. 22 million for one year isn’t gonna cripple the team as much as yall think
I’m not surprised one bit by cashman doing this. This happens all the time and we can’t act like it doesn’t. He will get benched at some point. Bellinger is gone and Tucker won’t come close to us now. Good for Trent though.
LOL! Cashman’s such a fuckin asshole.
I’m just glad we didn’t get tricked into another Aaron Hicks esque deal for a very obvious Aaron Hicks rehash
1 more year of Grish and then set him free
It’s fine. I’m not worried about team payroll because I don’t pay it. It’s a 1 year overpay. I hardly think it will prevent us from doing other things but with the weak FA class, teams may overspend for Tucker and Belli. This provides some insurance. If Dominguez and Jones both happen to develop into all-stars then he rides the pine or gets packaged in a trade for bullpen help.
By rejecting the QO, I believe teams would have to forfeit a draft pick to sign Grisham which would also hurt his market value. I think it was a smart move by him to accept as I’m not so sure a big multi-year deal is waiting for him elsewhere. If he doesn’t get paid for 2027 with a lockout, he’ll have 22 million to keep food on the table. He hasn’t sniffed that kind of money in the bigs yet.
I know he didn’t have a great postseason but during the season the dude was so clutch for us
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Fuck I hate this. Damn lockout
Motherfucker
Cashman really Big Brained this one. Now we have less money to go after Tucker or Belli if they’re sticking with Hal’s demand to stay below the Cohen tax, and we also now have an outfield so crowded that we almost definitely need to trade Dominguez or Jones, or even both (which is fine, if we get a good return, I suppose).
This. Sucks.
I’m kinda amazed he did
U gotta be kidding me man
Felt like there was a high chance of this happening given the impending lockout and how unconvinced the league seemed that his 2025 is repeatable
To put some positive spin on it, with healed hamstrings he should at least be a neutral defensive CF as he was before hamstring injuries slowed him down a lot. His savant page is also pretty encouraging that his batting adjustments were not just a fluke
I would rather not be paying him 22 M but I’m not that upset that we brought back one of the better outfielders in baseball last season
I still don’t get why it was even offered tbh.
Regression to the mean incoming.
Cashman is going to have to get really creative now.
While I leaned toward thinking Grisham would reject the QO, there was always a decent chance he’d accept it.
Wrote this 11 days ago:
>Grisham was a career .213/.313/.384 bat (in 2,250 PA) prior to 2025. Teams are gonna look at that and worry about regression. Now he’s got a draft penalty attached as well. And his speed/defense seem to be sliding in the wrong direction. I could see Grisham being stuck unsigned in February because teams took other options and didn’t want to give him a big deal. So he could look at that $22M QO and think, “I’m not gonna beat that AAV, I can go back to New York and prove my bat isn’t a fluke and try free agency again without the draft penalty.”
The FO’s tepid response to Tucker makes me feel like they wanted Grish to accept and to run back the outfield again
I hope he just repeats 2025
OK is this ideal? No. But Grisham was solid this year, and a 1 year deal isn’t bad. The big issue now would be the Yankees deciding between Belli/Tucker and Jasson full-time in the OF. I worry they will say they don’t want to go in on either of those guys now… but as long as they don’t give up on that, this gives them OF depth.
FUCK
Cashman is a fucking idiot, Trent is a mediocre player that had a career year and was garbage in the playoffs. No chance they sign Bellinger or Tucker now
Unserious organization is unserious. More at 11
I know everyone is bugging out, but what if he feels that he unlocked something last year and wants to show teams so he might get a $100+ mm deal after this year. If he didn’t feel that way he would have taken a deal ahead of the possible lockout next year.
woof
So there was no market for him after all. Or at least in the numbers he was looking.
Way to go Brian!
This team is about to put the exact same roster on the field arent they?
Fuck you Cashman
And fuck you Trent too
It’s not my money so ok. But if it means they’re out on Belli or going to lowball him or this stops them from getting starting pitching help, then it sucks.
I get the concern about less payroll to go after FA but in terms of the player, If he can repeat similar production I’m not complaining.
I get this is not ideal because that’s 22 MM AAV tied up to Grish, but is the “real” dagger that it ups the luxury tax penalty? Can anyone explain it more deeply if they know it?
# 👀
Damn
I’m honestly shocked I thought he’d go for a multi-year deal for less AAV since he just had what will surely be the best year of his career. This truly sucks though, yes he had an awesome year but he’s an obvious regression candidate and $22 million is STEEP
Great….
I mean this sarcastically this isn’t really great
FIRE CASHMAN
what was the logic of extending the offer? is there any benefit to the team? is it just allowing them to match a deal he signed elsewhere?
There goes the offseason. Bellinger is as good as gone and that also means no Tucker.
its only for a year if he slugs and has a .750 ops solid player
I’m going to be the comment of hope on this otherwise negative thread. Here’s to hoping he can build on his year. His power looked real, I really enjoyed watching him play. They should still go after Tucker or Bellinger and Imai. It ain’t my money so fuck it. Señor Sleep, prove everyone wrong.
Why are we paying a role player over $20 mil???!
I think they got PTSD from the DJ and Hicks contract and they don’t want to invest that many years into Bellinger.
I’m not worried it’s only one year and it’s insurance (albeit expensive) and it’s not surprising he took it. It’s so much money for only one season and he can still get paid next season. Basic economics dictate that taking more money and less years will net you more over the long term. 1 year for 22 is better than 3 years for 45 from an economic perspective. This is good for everyone involved. Congrats to Grish he balled out and earned it.
They tried to steal a draft pick and are not hamstrung. Fucking idiots.
He was supposed to go get an 80 mil dollar bag and we were gonna draft the next superstar with the comp /s
This offseason is a joke already.
😆
Genius move on his end. Had a great year and there was no way he was touching that kind of money on the open market with draft compensation tied to him and any sort of hesitation that may come from teams about long term deals to non elite talent with a lockout potentially in the future. This salary alone tops what he’s made for his career. It’s not ideal but I’m not at all shocked he picked it up.
Honestly no one should be shocked by this. Hal and Cashman were very comfortable extending the QO knowing this was likely to happen.
Don’t understand the outrage. Best case scenario he has a similar year last year (.812 OPS, 34 HRS is production nobody should be complaining about), worst case scenario is he regresses to the mean and becomes a platoon bat outfielder and leaves in the offseason. 22 million for one year isn’t gonna cripple the team as much as yall think
I’m not surprised one bit by cashman doing this. This happens all the time and we can’t act like it doesn’t. He will get benched at some point. Bellinger is gone and Tucker won’t come close to us now. Good for Trent though.
LOL! Cashman’s such a fuckin asshole.
I’m just glad we didn’t get tricked into another Aaron Hicks esque deal for a very obvious Aaron Hicks rehash
1 more year of Grish and then set him free
It’s fine. I’m not worried about team payroll because I don’t pay it. It’s a 1 year overpay. I hardly think it will prevent us from doing other things but with the weak FA class, teams may overspend for Tucker and Belli. This provides some insurance. If Dominguez and Jones both happen to develop into all-stars then he rides the pine or gets packaged in a trade for bullpen help.
By rejecting the QO, I believe teams would have to forfeit a draft pick to sign Grisham which would also hurt his market value. I think it was a smart move by him to accept as I’m not so sure a big multi-year deal is waiting for him elsewhere. If he doesn’t get paid for 2027 with a lockout, he’ll have 22 million to keep food on the table. He hasn’t sniffed that kind of money in the bigs yet.
I know he didn’t have a great postseason but during the season the dude was so clutch for us