BREAKING: ORIOLES TRADE GRAYSON RODRIGUEZ TO ANGELS FOR TAYLOR WARD- REACTION
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Welcome to Kevin and Zack React where we thought the night was winding down and then suddenly we got trade news. Kevin Taylor Ward is going to Baltimore and Grayson Rodriguez. He who shall not be named. Kevin, this is why we weren’t naming him. Grayson Rodriguez, you called it, huh? Is going to the Los Angeles Angels passing rights. The Orioles get the powerhitting outfielder they’ve been seeking. We’ll get into all of that in a moment. And the Angels get back a young arm coming off injury. Quite a trade. Wow, Kevin, I’m not gonna lie. I did not see this one coming. Like, I I had a I I had a classic double take at a passing bomb. Hand up. I did it. Hand up. I did it. Yeah. I mean, you want power, you got power. I mean, we we’ll dive into Taylor Ward a little bit, but I think we should start with Grayson probably. Um, yeah, pretty shocking, but at the same time, not shocking. I mean, the the medical just must be horrible is what it comes down to for Grayson because we know the potential that he has. We know he throws heat, you know, we know that when he’s healthy and available, he can be a dude for you. He has been a dude, but this is this is it’s tough because, you know, I want and still do want Grayson to realize his potential as a player in this league. He’s still young. He still has time. He’s not afraid until what, 2029? I think he still has arbitration years and whatnot. So, I mean, I this this is a I I like it for the Angels and I think for the Orioles, this is a guy that they needed in their lineup. You know, we were we were talking about the Schwarbers of the world and, you know, those free agents that are available, but I don’t know if the Orioles just didn’t like those guys enough or if they saw this opportunity fall into their lap. I’m curious to see if this was the Angels approaching the Orioles for Grayson or if the Orioles were shopping Grayson around to see what they could get. But now this creates another hole in your rotation. And I know for you, Zach, it does not because you were not really factoring him in until he could be fully healthy, which is totally fair and understandable. But I I’m gonna be honest. I didn’t I I my the only reason I didn’t mention it is because like you said, I did I didn’t you know, you can’t bank on him being healthy. I I coming off injury. I just didn’t see a trade like with him being this is I get it. It’s selling low on Grayson, but I also feel like they got great value. Like I don’t this is not to me a selling low on Grayson. Like they got a good player and we’ll get into that in a minute, you know, but I it’s weird because it like Grayson’s value is definitely at the lowest it has been, but at the same time you got a good player back for him. Yeah. So I feel very indifferent really right now. It’s like a weird feeling. Well, I I think by definition it is selling low because of what you said in terms of like his value is at its lowest and I’m not sure how much lower it can go considering the I mean the reports out on Grayson. It’s like he has number one upside but he can’t stay on the field and when you can’t stay on the field you’re not helping the team out. So, you know, I know there were talk I I saw the some people floating around the possibility of Grayson moving to the bullpen, you know, just lessen the stress of his arm and whatnot. That was never to me a realistic possibility. Grayson as a starter. Um, you know, it it’s it fills the need for you. I I I love the idea of Schwarber in Baltimore, so I’m kind of bummed that that’s kind of off the table now, but we’ll get we’ll get into Taylor Ward. This this is exactly what they needed. It’s It’s a little bit of a bummer. I think what he’s a free agent after this is a rental essentially. This is a This is potentially that that’s that’s a bummer to me. He’s also not the youngest player in the world. Certainly not old, but certainly not young either. 31. So, but he’s going to be 32 and let’s let’s play our favorite game. Meet the Orio. Yeah, Savant. Let’s do it. Let’s Let’s go and let’s do it. As you can see, guys, one first thing that Let me go all the way down. Um outfielding we can go through the years but first thing stands out arm value not great uh arm strength range exa perfectly average for range and arm strength actually um guy who doesn’t chase 92 percentile he’s got good barrel rating uh batting run value 80th percentile but you look at his stats I mean 792 ops I believe is a career high the One thing that stands out to me, Kevin, and it’s actually funny because this is something Ryan and I talked about a few days ago and the first number because it it slaps you in the face. Um, 36 home runs are great. That that’s awesome. You know, that that’s awesome. But 103 RBI’s on a bad Angels team. Let’s keep that in mind. So, what the Orioles that would rank that would have been first by a landslide. I think Gunner was the uh leader with 82 maybe. So, this is a guy who knows how to get people in. Um, if as you can see, he does only have a 247 or 247 career average, 228 average last year. Funny enough, was actually a low for him. He batted 246, 253, and 24 and 23. This is a guy that I I think you hope the power plays, but you you know, the ability to drive in runs is really what stands out to me and I hope can carry over because the Orioles, how many times did we sit there and they were unable to get a guy in from third. So if he can drive in runs, which he did in LA with 103, that’s, you know, I I hope that that’s what you got him for because getting runners in is very important with 103. Last year, you know, that’s what stuck out to me. Yeah. Also relatively available. I mean, over the past two years, has played in 156 and 157 games, respectively, over 2024 and 2025. 97 in 2023 and 135 in 2022. and 2022 was really where he started to uh get it going. So again, you needed a power bat, you get a power bat. And for Grayson, it’s it’s a fresh start. And again, I just I have to think that those medicals are just not great because I mean, the the the the one forone value, you know, in terms of upside and potential, you know, it favors the Angels, but the Orioles get something that they need back in it where you could have plugged Schwarber in. He could have plugged Kyle Tucker in. Maybe there’s another Reid candidate out there, but you know, I I would just hope that he’s able to keep the power while getting his strikeout rate down a little bit. He walks at a high rate, so you like to see that as well. You mentioned the RBI’s. So, just really interesting. I’m curious to see where where he projects in terms of if he’s going to get like because now you have So, their outfield rotation is going to be what? Cowser Cowser Ward Ward O’Neal will factor in as a DHoutfielder. That this makes me I’m gonna be completely honest with you. This completely takes me out on Leotus Tiveres is just going to be a camp body because now the outfield makes less sense to have a guy like that. But Kevin, while we sit here and talk, I guess we should get Oh, yeah. Dylan Beaver’s got Beaver is correct. Thank you. So yeah, there’s this outfield is start. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. But Jeremiah can play the infield. You can put him in the infield as well. Yeah. But while we’re here, let’s get someone else’s reaction. Let’s welcome to the floor our friend and yours, uh Ryan Ripken, uh Ryan. Um can can we have a move like when I’m I was I was setting up the rest of my day. Yeah. I’m trying to relax and I just texted my buddy and I’m just like, “Hey, dude.” Won’t say who the buddy’s name is, but I’m like, “Hey, dude. Can we not do this at this hour? Can we not? Um, not allowed. You’re You know, you probably got a response that said, “You’re lucky it’s not at 3:00 a.m.” Yeah, let me fix my mic. Kevin, I pulled to you real quickly. Hold on. That happened to me. I I recorded for Lockdown Sports Today. I did one of the I did I’ve been hosting the national show for a couple days and my mic didn’t even pick up for the I recorded through my cam microphone. It didn’t even pick up my mic. Yeah. Um, holy shirts and pants. Um, just a chip with this going on. Doug, can you hear me? There you go. There you go. We can hear you loud. Okay. So, um, I got a few things. One, I’m trying to get this up on on the Tik Tok. Um, secondly, the the reality of this situation. Um this is uh a bigger for me. Um you get an outfielder that is dependable and I’ll explain that a little bit more in depth. Oh gosh, this light I’m not I’m frazzled right now because I I literally was was trying to get things together. Welcome to the late night. Yeah. Um I know. Uh, but I thought I had to come on to talk about this. The the other part that I want to discuss or what, let me collect my thoughts. I think this is a big part about the Orioles wanting to move on from Grayson. Uh, I think that as much as I think Taylor Ward, and I’ll get into what I think the pros are of Taylor Ward here in a second. Um, the bigger part to me was you came to a point with with Grayson that you were ready to move on because Taylor Ward contractwise, this is it this year, our year and then that’s it. So, you were ready to move on from Grayson. Too many injuries, the value’s there. So, what you’re telling me is you have less faith in Grayson Rodriguez for the future. Because if you had faith that he’s going to be good and he’s fine and there’s no tension, you don’t trade away a young starting pitcher that when he’s on the field, he’s pretty damn good. And the key word is if um let me go let me go to the positive then on this side of of at least again I’m shocked that it happened. Um, but at least what the Orioles decided, they got their right-handed bat for the outfield. That is answered. They needed it. They got it. I don’t think it stops them from getting another outfielder if they really want it. But the reason why they got Taylor Ward, you have Cowser, left-handed hitter. Beaver’s left-handed hitter. Um, Tyler O’Neal is not an everyday player, and that’s the key word here. Taylor Ward has played 156 or more games in the last two seasons. So, you know what that’s telling me? that dude is playing every damn game. You don’t tr you do not make this trade if Taylor Ward is not playing every damn game that he can. So when we look at it that way, Taylor Ward, yes, the batting average, if you’re a fan, is going to go, “Dude, why would you want to bring in a guy that’s in 228?” And I get it. Believe me, I understand that because that’s like that’s low. But Zach, you’ve heard me say this before. I don’t care what the hell your batting average is. If you drive in runs, you know what Taylor Ward did? That dude drove in runs. He drove in 103 of them. And what have the Orioles lacked is a run producing bat. So if that’s the role for Taylor Ward, drive guys in, I don’t care if he hits 210 or 280. If he drives in 100 RBI’s in 2026, that’s a win for the Baltimore Orioles. No doubt about it. But there is going to be an like I I am curious. Um, can I’m not expecting 30 jacks from Taylor Ward. So, um, you hope he does that again, but that’s a big if, especially coming to the AL East. So, and I mean the one thing is with the batting averages, yeah, last year it was a low for him at 228 and actually it was his lowest since he played in 20 games and 40 games in 2018 2019. But besides that, I mean, 2024 bad 246. 2023 bad 253 bad 281 in uh in how many games? 135 games in 2022. So, it’s funny because the power went up this year and the average went down. If he can continue to drive in runs, I would like to see obviously a closer into that 280. That would be really nice. But, I mean, this is a guy who’s put up a 3.5 war year. Uh, I think there’s potential there, but I agree. This to me, this tells me that they’re they were done with the Grayson Rodriguez experience, you know, whether that now means, you know, they definitely need to go out and get another starter, you know, whatever it is. But it definitely shows me that they either did not feel like Grayson after all these injuries could return to form. uh they got an offer that they felt like was okay, you know, enough to take, but this this does feel like it may be more about like you said, okay, they were they were done with seeing what Grayson Rodriguez could do. They got as much value as they probably could and then they moved on. I mean, one thing I want to at least like continue to emphasize, if Taylor Ward gets a 100 RBI’s again, that is a massive victory for the Orioles. But you know what this is also telling me? And and and it it makes sense and and I’m uh and it it even doubles down that Grayson Rodriguez was not going to be factored into how the Orioles went about in their rotation this year because you couldn’t, you know, you couldn’t you couldn’t count on Grayson. And last year they were depending a little bit on him to to take that step. Now you couldn’t count account account for Efflin being hurt and um then you lose it feels like every other guy and that’s a tough position. So we talked about not getting burned twice. Um with you losing Grayson though, not that you depend on him, that means you are probably going to get at minimum two arms now. like at minimum two starters are coming into Baltimore. Um, and with that the way it’s being done, the focus can be, okay, is that going to be a free agent? Could that be another trade here in the works? I think you could see any options on the table. And if you’re an Orioles fan right now and you’re sitting here, I was looking at the the free agent bat, Zach, and we’ve talked about this there. The next best right-handed bat is going to be Pete Alonzo at first base. That I’d be shocked if Pete Alonzo comes to Baltimore. I would be shocked. Yeah, I would be extremely shocked. Yeah. And the and the Taylor Ward thing, if I’m seeing that, or not Taylor Ward, Tyler O’Neal, I’m not even factoring Tyler O’Neal into my everyday lineup. I’m not. Yeah, but but Kevin, if you’re sitting there right now, and I know it’s not um again, this is not the player that everyone’s gonna like jump up and down about. Taylor Ward’s a damn good player. Like, I just I want to point that out. He’s a he’s a damn good player. He’s a ball player. He shows up, he does his job, and guess it’s not going to be the flashiest thing. I think he is going to provide you, you know, with streaks and moments. But yeah, you know, like I keep saying, I think this was, you know, you know, kind of what we were talking about Kevin beforehand. This felt more of like, okay, we don’t trust Grayson more than it was, hey, we we love Taylor Ward. We we we can’t go next year without Taylor Ward. The the move is more the move is more in my opinion, they wanted to move on from Grayson than it was acquiring what Taylor Ward can be. But I do think when you look at the market there, the best outfielder that was a right-handed hitter was what? Harrison Bader that was on the market. Yeah. So, if the Orioles were already going to be in to get pitching, well, now they they’ve like for fans right now, if they don’t, all hell will break loose. But for me, this is the telling card. The card’s out. It’s there. The Orioles will go get pitching. They are going to. But but Kevin, going back to what I was going to say, um, if this is the case and and we the platoon, the big P word, I like the idea of knowing a guy that played a lot and and this is what he did with his reps. I think that that has to be maybe a sign that the platoon action is changing in Baltimore. Um, at least in this case, Tyler O’Neal will platoon if he’s on the roster, which who knows, but he will platoon. It seems like Taylor Ward will not or or I don’t understand why you make that move. Yeah, I mean the best way I think because we know that with Tyler O’Neal in particular, I mean, the thing has been health for him. So, when you get a guy that’s available, one of the best ways that you can make sure that Tyler O’Neal stays healthy is to put him in a role where he’s not asked to do as much. And like O’Neal wants to play all the time, I’m sure, and wants to help the team contribute, but when you’re as injured as you are and you’ve had that history, you know, the best trait you can have, or at least one of them is availability when it comes to sports. And that’s what we talked about with Grayson where it’s like, we know what he can do when he’s healthy and when he’s out there, but the problem was he just wasn’t. you’re not helping the team that way. So, being able to manage at bats or manage a situation, I think is, you know, kind of what you should be planning around. And so, yes, Taylor Ward is not a flashy player, you know, he’s older than Grayson. He has less control than Grayson, you know, but they also like this and this is what I do over with the Ravens Unlocked on Ravens and this that during the trade dead. I’m like I’m like look you can look at every single move in a vacuum and say this is a move that you can just look at by itself and that’s what we have to go off of right now but I’m just very curious to see how the rotation shapes up and when we’re looking back on this in February in March to say okay they brought in an outfielder they opened up another spot in their rotation and this is who they brought in now how does it look because right now we’re just trying to fit all the pieces together right we’re trying to figure out all right where to Taylor Ward fit? How does he fit this lineup? What are the pieces that the Orioles now have in their rotation? But we still have a couple of months to go here before this team is fully complete. So, in terms of upside, the Angels win this deal. But we know that the Orioles need a power bat. And I think you’re right, Ryan, where it’s like you look at the names, like I I said like, man, I love the idea of Kyle Schwarber in Baltimore. Well, Kyle Horber’s not right-handed, first of all, and second of all, like, what’s the how realistic is it that some of these big high-profile names choose Baltimore? It’s not impossible, but you also can’t bank on it happening. So, if you want to risk and say, “Okay, we’re going to bank on Xname coming to Baltimore in free agency and you don’t take an opportunity to make a trade like this if you’re already so sold on moving off of Grayson.” And who knows if they could have done better if they moved off of him at whatever time or whatnot it was. That’s a different conversation. But if you don’t make a move like this and all of a sudden the market dries up because you’re like what what’s happened to the Blue Jays over the last handful of years and shout out to them for going as far as they have. But the thing with the Blue Jays over these last couple of years is well they come in second on everybody and so they have all these plans and all of a sudden it’s like well you know now we have to kind of pivot and they’ve pivoted very nicely. They put together a World Series roster but sometimes it doesn’t work out that way. So I I would have loved to see Grayson continue his career in Baltimore. I I’d still love the upside and I’m pretty bummed and disappointed that they moved off of him. But if it was going to happen, you needed to get something back that could help your team. And I just hope that again the power stays, the average goes up a little bit, the strikeouts come down, and he’s able to keep driving in runs because if he doesn’t, then you’re going to have to have a different conversation. But I’m still curious to see how the team shapes up. Yeah. So the the one thing again like I think that the bigger emphasis here and if you’re new to the channels, Kevin and Zach React, Ryan Rupen Show, hit that like and subscribe button. The Ryan Ripken Show, we’re live at 5. Kevin and Zach during baseball season are going to be live for every single game. You guys know the drill. They do it. I pop on when I can when moments like this happen. If the deal is at 3:00 in the morning, they will be doing this. I will not be hopping on. Um the bigger emphasis Yeah, it does. The bigger emphasis to me is the Orioles were were they’re worried about the injury history with Grayson that there’s something that’s popping up and they were just done. Like I want to emp like I know the Orioles needed the bat and I still like you’re looking at they needed the bat to help. Um giving up a a mid a mid20s pitcher with the upside that Grayson has. You don’t do that unless you are not confident in what you’re getting in him moving forward. And I told you guys this before and I still remember when I so I retired in 21. I got to be with Grayson throughout the years in the miners, right? So, I watched him. I know him. I told you guys from stuff. He has it. He’s got a powerful arm. In 2022, Grayson was trying to get up to the big leagues. You guys remember that? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And that’s when the injury history started. He hurt his lat, missed the rest of the way or couldn’t get up to the big leagues. And then 2023 trying to make the team and he felt uh you could feel a rush. And ever since that second half of 2023 where everyone thought this the flip was switched, he looked great he was going to emerge. What happened in 2024? Couple stints on the IIL. Yeah. And then you go into 2025 where he’s still trying to figure out how he warms up in spring training. Um and the where I’m talking about with the lat so people understand this. I mean, I’m on like this little box, but like for the lat here, and Grayson was saying, “I was trying to figure out how to throw and protect my shoulder.” If your lat changes how you throw, and then your shoulder became the second issue, and you’re trying to figure it out, it all is in sync. So, it went from lat to shoulder to elbow. And yes, he doesn’t have Tommy John, by the way, when they’re going just get Tommy John. It wasn’t Tommy John. It’s not the UCL. But you’re wondering if you’ve had to change your your your um how you throw and your body’s still having these injuries unless like the relationship got so bad or that Grayson said, “Hey, I you know, I don’t want to go to the pen.” Maybe that was going to be talked about for him. Yeah. Um I don’t know. All the above. But the point being is they were ready to move because you don’t move a 20y 26. Yeah. You don’t move a 20. You don’t move a 26y old pitcher if you think he’s going to be a top two guy in your rotation. You just you you and especially I I want to make it clear one more time. Ward, you need an RBI guy. You checked it off the list. Yeah. But there could have been other alternatives here. But the Orioles need pitching and they were saying we’re willing to give up on a 26 year old with what we have. And they’re going to say, “Hey, Ward fits everything. He’s great. I love everything about him as far as gamer dependable put him in the lineup, but the bigger story is that the the Orioles felt that that Grayson Rodriguez would not be the ace of the future that they were hoping he would be. Yeah, I mean I think it’s definitely that the biggest story of this trade is more that the Orioles were done with Grayson rather than the Angels done with Ward. So, I think overall, Grayson Rodriguez, this also tells me that, you know, you have to now sign Rogers long term. You have to do these things because Grayson, while immediately, you know, wasn’t maybe in this year’s plans because of all the injury history, he was one of the few guys that you had long term. You know, his deal went through 2030. And I think past that, now all of a sudden there are question marks. After the season, Rogers is gone. You know, Bradish’s deal is obviously coming up. Wells and them. So, you have to now look at, hey, are we going to extend Rogers or is a guy in free agency, we’ve only seen Michaelas recently give one-year deals. Are we going to see a three, fouryear deal? You know, when we talk about getting a Ranger Suarez, a Dylan CE, a Michael King, it’s got to now be more years because there’s one less guy where we already said, hey, you couldn’t necessarily rely on him to be the guy for 30 starts a year. He was still a guy that had that potential that you knew, hey, he’s going to be on our squad till 2030 and past then, we’ll see what happens. Now, all of a sudden, there’s one less guy that you can kind of slot in. I think, you know, not only do they need to sign guys, they they need a guy that is here for the next three, four years. And, you know, when you get a guy Yeah. I mean, it it’s a it’s a big risk for the Orioles. I mean, there’s no there’s no way about it. Like, it it’s true. you know that Grayson with the potential that he’s shown if he turns it around and then like I know worst case for a lot of people is with Taylor Ward’s aging contract it’s like he has a year in Baltimore and then he just leaves and it’s like Corbin Burns all over again and you’re like all right so you know I don’t want to say it puts pressure on the Orioles to resign him no matter what if he has a bad year they’re not going to but you know there is pressure here but you know this is who they decided is going to be their power right-handed outfielder and hopefully it works out for him. And I I hope Grayson has a lot of success, too. Again, I’m bummed that it couldn’t happen in Baltimore. I think Grayson has a ton of upside and and I I think, you know, with the control that he has and the gas that he throws, like you got to bring in the guys to replace him and get this starting rotation to where it needs to be because, you know, the age does not favor Baltimore, the control does not favor Baltimore. So, this really does need to work out. Yeah. and felt like that’s just just in the chat one through 10. Let’s play everyone’s favorite game. How are you feeling about this? Because I know people are very passionately. 10 meaning this was a fantastic trade. Five is you are completely indifferent. Could be good, could be bad. One is this is the worst trade ever. Uh guys, I’ll let you guys kind of answer that. Where are you guys on that? I’m sitting at a perfect five. I think this is just because it’s a guy that I wasn’t necessarily relying on to be part of the club this year. So, I’m like, okay, Taylor Ward, am I ecstatic he’s here? No. But he’s put up over a 100red RBI’s. He has the power. So, I think for the Orioles at least, I’m I’m sitting at I’m indifferent. I’m going to see how things play out. I not could get super high or super low because I wasn’t really expecting Grayson, you know, to be relied on in this lineup or in this rotation. Uh, I I’d probably say I’m at a four with the Orioles. I I’m again, I’m just I’m bummed that Grayson is not going to be able to realize that potential here. But again, it I agree with you, Ryan. It’s clear that they just didn’t have them in their plans anymore. And whether that’s the right decision or the wrong decision, it just is what it is. So, I’m curious what else they could have gotten for Grayson. I don’t really have packages off the top of my mind right now, but you know, they addressed the need and there is potential with this move, but I think that we’re just going to have to see how Grayson looks honestly. Like, even if Taylor Ward comes in and has has an average year, everyone’s going to grade this deal off of how Grayson does, not on how Taylor. That’s that’s just what it is. That’s a great point. my my grade honestly I don’t even have a one to 10 is incomplete. I I I I just think there’s no number for me that can quantify with it. Um the the biggest thing is the Orioles need to go and get two to three pitchers for really to get a great assessment because then you can’t properly put this out. Like it it’s it’s a it’s a failed move in my opinion if you don’t go and get two to three arms, which I think that they’re going to have to do. It’s kind of telegraphed. Um And for the Orioles part of it, this I I still think they’re going to go get one more bat because I think they still need one guy that’s comfortable that they can rely on. I I would still be shocked if this is what they go with um moving forward. Um actually, I shouldn’t say I should be shocked at that. I would be shocked if if there if the Orioles don’t go and get at least two arms, one of them via free agency at least. And I think that they got to be in on they have to be in on we to we we talked about like Ranger Suarez being it. The Orioles have to walk away this off season with two starting pitchers and they got to get two high leverage arms from the bullpen. I don’t even care about the rest of the bats that they get to be honest. Like if Taylor Ward’s the big move for the offense, I can live with that. for a team, you can’t live if you don’t go get a guy um that can be at the back end of the bullpen. And you know, Elias’s words were they weren’t going to revolve around Grayson. Well, he was right. They traded him. He also said, “We’re going to go we’re going to go get a we’re going to go get So, check one, he said what he was going to do.” That was number one. Number two, um are you going to get starting pitching? We’re going to have to see. And most importantly, you can I told you guys you can shore up the middle relief guys in your bullpen. Um, you saw that with Dietri Ends. I think you buy back Canó because of the upside of what he has done, not what he did last year. But those guys can surprise you. And like I go back a few years ago, who was the big surprise out of the Orioles pen in 2022? It was Perez. That was a one hit year wonder. Um, uh, Danny Kulom then turned in from a a lefty specialist to a high lever dude. Yeah. Uh, the Orioles can’t take a risk on who is going to be a high leverage guy for them. Um, Robert Suarez or Diaz needs to be in Baltimore in my opinion. And I and I’m still sticking with the Robert Suarez as a Baltimore Orio. Um, I I still I’m still saying this. I I I’m not shocked, but I I do kind of sit there and go, damn, they really did this. Yeah, they they really did this. Oh, I think that’s my my biggest thing is I wouldn’t say I’m shocked if you would have told me, “Hey, they’re trading Grayson Rodriguez this off seasonason.” I would have been like, “Okay, okay.” But it it was more just like that it happened. It’s like, “Oh, I did not think it would happen this early.” Especially with them not having, you know, if this happened after they signed a Suarez or someone for the top of the rotation, then this happens. This makes more sense. I think it’s more just caught you off guard and it’s like wow they actually did it like then it is shocking that Grayson is not going to be an oral in 20 26. The thing here too, looking at this with Ward, um, you know, obviously last year is his career year, you know, but again, one thing that the Orioles have lacked in general is dependability, and I want to emphasize that dependability. And I and I’m I’m sure Albernaz is looking at that of who could I depend on. Um, any So, let’s put it this way. If if Ward gets between 75 and 103 RBI’s, would you take that as an as a Orioles fan? I I think the answer would be yes. What were the uh numbers? 75 to 103 RBI’s. Yeah, because you know what I’m going to do right now. I think it depends on how Grayson does be honest. I think this whole thing is going to be determined. I think how the trade overall is great is 1,00% on Grayson. But now as the Orioles, it’s what can you get out of Ward? And I think but I agree if Ward goes out there and hits 300 and 100 RBI’s and 35 homers, leaves after one year and Grayson becomes a Sai Young award winner, then suddenly, yeah, Kevin, I agree. It doesn’t matter how good Ward does in one year. But for the Orioles, I think you take a guy that can just drive in runs. You You know what that You know where he would place Taylor Ward, the 75 RBI. Taylor Ward from two years ago. You know what that would place on last year’s Orioles team? It would be one or two. He’d be first. The Baltimore Orioles didn’t have a guy have more than 68 RBI’s. And I see in the comments, what’s the strikeout? He’s going to be like every damn player. Look, some guys just know how to drive in runs. And sometimes that means that they’re going to strike out 175 times, but when the moment gets to that point, you know what they can do. And I and I look, you’re gonna look at two years and say Taylor Ward hasn’t done it enough. I’d rather see a guy that’s done it two straight years and played 156 games, two years in a row than other guys where it’s been incomplete. The Orioles right now, and I told you this, Zach, and Kevin, if you haven’t heard this, hey, I’m going to tell you again. Um, Gunnar Henderson of the young core is the one no matter what. I got zero worries about him whatsoever. I saw people saying, “Well, Jordan Westber gets he’s injuryprone.” I can I even tell you how how unlucky you have to be to get drilled in the hand and then break your hands or like mess it up sliding and then slipping on a base. Like that’s not him having a oh I I I messed up something. Yes, hamstrings. Sure. Okay. But Jordan Westber when he plays there’s zero question about his game. And I love Jackson Holiday. I I believe in Colton Cowser but there’s question marks about their dependability. Not that they can’t play, but can they be consistent? And then there’s Adley. You know, which Adley are you gonna get? I’m buying the bounceback Adley. But the point being is you need a guy that’s going to to step up and go, “All right, he’s going to get RBI’s.” And if I were to reook at this Orioles team right now, they don’t make another move. Ward’s going to be in the middle of your lineup with Gunner. You’re going to have Bisio. And I I’m going to say it. I I think Dylan Beavers should get a good look at being at the top of the order, but you’re looking at Westber, Gunner, Ward, Basio, and Adley somewhere in the middle. That that’s a lot better than what it was. Um, but to your point, Kevin or Zach, uh, we don’t know. The Grayson thing will be incomplete this year. One year is not going to decide this. If Grayson turns out to be a all-star over the next four straight years, then guess what? It’s going to go back to that the Orioles can’t get the best out of developing their starting pitchers. And I’ve been hearing that since 1990, well 93, I don’t remember hearing that when I was born, but you guys get the point. You haven’t had an ace through the system since Mike Mousina, who was a first round pick and was an absolute dog. That’s what you’re going to hear if Grayson Rodriguez goes somewhere else and dominates. And that I think is something that will really kill Orio fans. And quite frankly, the Orioles don’t win and Grayson does that. That’s a job that you lose a job over to be honest. Take risk. Yep. Yeah. It, you know, they are being aggressive. They are taking risks. That’s for sure. I agree. I think the biggest thing now is the Orioles. You got, you know, that was the three check marks that Michael asses wish list. They gave it to GM’s meetings. outfield bat, specifically a righty, you know, veteran. You get the starter and then you get the bullpen piece. They got the left or lefty outfielder bat, right-handed left fielder. Now, you kind of go from there. The next up is the pitching. I think that’s the most important part. And I think, you know, if they don’t do anything with the rest of the lineup, that’s one thing, but they definitely have to have to have to add, I’m going to say two, three impact arms over the bullpen. and the rotation, whether that’s two guys in the rotation, one backend bullpen guy, two guys in the bullpen, one front line starter, you can make that decision, but they need two to three more, I would say, difference making pitchers and then you can say you were cooking something this off. How how likely is this to you guys that they resign one of Ewin or Serano now with Grayson out of the fold? If you’re going to do one, unfort I I was a big Sugano guy all year. I just think if you’re going to pick between the two, it’s got to be Efflin. Yeah, I’m I’m with you there. But again, like I think you need you need two front line one like mega front line and then another guy that you can really really trust in there. I would prioritize that over Einer. If you want to bring Efflin or Sagano back, I mean, you’d have to have a I just don’t know if there’s a spot. I don’t think there is a spot if you sign. Yeah. Guys, I mean I mean I’m still team because then there’s Povich and you know got to figure everything else out. I mean I doesn’t hurt to have depth but are you going to start Povich and Triple A again this year? I mean to the side. Yeah. Trey Gibson. I mean they they’ve got guys knocking on the door right there. It just all depends on how it you know unfolds. Yeah. you you need more than five like reliable starters because we see what has happened the past two years. So I wouldn’t be opposed to bringing E1 back. It’s just like what do you do? Like you could have that long man in the bullpen that could be like like Suarez for example who you can kind of rotate in and out of the starting rotation of bullpen if you need him to. Like by that I mean Albert there like a billion Suarezes now that people are talking about. So bring Hey, Robert Suarez to reunite. Bring all the Suarezes, the Baltimore. Let them all have a Suarez. Get the brothers in. Get get Ranger. You’re cooking. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. The the end of the day, guys, you know, one the one last point that I wanted to make with with this. Um, the Orioles moving forward in 2026, they’re going to have to create a standard and culture of how they’re going to play and the players that they expect in this case. And I’m curious from this move moving forward how we’re going to see that for a team being built. And I think that Albernaz is going to have a big part of how he’s constructing this. And I think this is one of those moves in my opinion where Ward Gamer, he’s ready to be out there and we are looking for more of those guys in our in our system because right now like I I look I I told you guys this. I got a I I know that I know Grayson. I know a lot of these guys on the team. Um and I want nothing but the best for him. But when you have question marks about what what you can do for this team moving forward and that starts to spread um that that can become a problem and it did become a problem and I wouldn’t be surprised here moving forward as this next thing if the Orioles start to create we start to see a theme of what type of players they are trying to have. Um because the things that they’ve I think that they learned the hard way. We can’t have the same player on offense. We got to learn to be overall more well-rounded. And secondly, um we got to be a little bit more scrappy. I look at a guy like Taylor Ward, but just the 156 in itself tells me that dude wants to play. Yeah. And and I I I what other player on the Orioles right now makes you think of an everyday guy? Yeah. I I that guy that dude is a gamer. You’re going to say Gunner and Westber when he’s on the field. Yeah. But it’s really just that’s it. You You need an attitude change and I and I think that’s the other part here. I wonder if Taylor Ward can be help be a part of that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, I’m I I think this is a this is a you know, we talked about getting rid of Grayson kind of just dumping that and then moving on. I I do think this could be an attitude type of signing, someone who comes in, you know, from all accounts, a great locker room guy. You know, I think the best word, like you said, RIP, is gamer. shows up, plays hard, you know, does the little things and hopefully that can lead to something changing in the lineup because the big thing that we talked about the Orioles lack this year is they could not get runners in at times. It was the most frustrating thing in the world sitting there watching them fail yet again with a guy on third less than two outs to get a guy in. bases loaded, no outs, can’t find a way in when you all you need is a fly ball, ground ball to the shorts stop, anything. I it if you can just get a guy, yes. Would love if he gets the batting average closer to that 250, but if you’re going to drive in 103 runs, that’s still driving in 103 runs, you know, whatever way you want to you slice it. No, I I think I figured out the real reason they made this trade. You know, they they just want to bring in these catchers, man. Taylor the Ward, former catcher Alberz, they they they they’re scarred from their catcher wos last year. I’m I’m telling you, they want all these catchers in the building. These guys who have played catcher and see it can be so simple sometimes. I saw a comment about runners in scoring position, by the way. Uh, were you able to find that? I was just looking. I did. I did. So, here’s the part, and again, I I like the batting average part. I still do. So, you can be like, eh, okay. He hit 246 with runners in scoring position. Okay. OPS though was 8:15. 64 of his 103 RBI’s came with runners in scoring position. So Taylor Ward, a majority of his damage was done when guys were on base, guys in scoring position. So think about that. 64 of his runs was four less than the team lead in any situation for the Baltimore Orioles. Yeah. Like if we can let that sink in. Um God, that’s not good. But for for for what I’m saying as a team standpoint, um I want to look real quickly for context for some of the other guys with runners in scoring position since Gunner was the leader leading RBI guy. I’ll do the quick math here. You want me to math for you? I’ll math for you. Yeah. You ready for this? Pass it. What do you guys think it is before I say anything? For which stat? For Gunner. And this is actually might shock you. for what with runners scoring position. Yep. Oh, I’m gonna say like 213. I don’t think he for Gunner. Yeah. I don’t think 244. Yeah. Be ready to be shocked. 342. Wow. Really? I was on the money just by 100 points. Say it did not feel like Gunner was I mean it felt like the whole team struggled. Damn. So, like, and it’s always context when the team’s not doing well. But that’s why Gunner needs to be in the three spot. He needs to be in the middle of the order. Get guys on. Um, and at the end of the day, too, like I I told you guys this. Um, I I value batting average specifically in the postseason. You got to be able to put the ball in play. You have to. Um, if you don’t and you have a low average, you better do something well. And so for the Orioles last year, when you’re looking at their lineup, if I went through their batting average compared to how they hit last year, let’s play a fun game. Jackson Holiday was second on the team with 55 RBI’s. What do you think he hit? 270 with runners in scoring position. 250. Well, I was saying for the season he hit 242. Oh, yeah. For the Wait, for just total or with runners in scoring position? So total total for the season Colton Cowser had was fourth on the team with 40 RBI’s. He hit 196 on the year. Yeah. And then Ryan Mount Castle hit 250 on the year with 35 RBI’s. So the thing for me is I would much if you’re not going to hit low or you’re not going to hit high, you better drive in runs. And it’s like the Orioles problem was these guys weren’t hitting high and they weren’t driving in guys. So it’s like that combination part of it. And do you want me to do you want me to play the game of what they hit with runners in scoring position? Yeah. We play the game. Kevin, you ready to get your mind blown? And if you’re new to the channels, hit that like and subscribe button. Ryan Ripen show, Kevin and Zack react. Uh, I won’t be on this late in the future, but Kevin and Zach are going to be on for every Orioles game in 2026. So, hey, how you doing? Check them out. Ryan Ripken show. We’re live at five. We’ll talk about this a lot tomorrow. Um, all right, guys. Jackson Holiday last year. Second second second most RBI’s on the team. Average scoring position. In scoring position, I’m gonna say 250. Damn, that was that’s a good one. I was going to say 257, but now I’ll say 263. 221. Damn. You say should have Kevin. Sheesh. So this is going Jordan Westber. Oh. Oh. 208. No, I’m gonna say Jordan Westber was in the 270s and the game of guessing is Jordan Westbrook at 358. Okay. Yeah, I was going to say Westy. Problem was he wasn’t healthy. So when I talk about this out loud, the Orioles have two players in my mind where you’re not even going to think about their production on the field. That’s Gutter and Jordan. Yeah, they’re healthy. There there’s zero doubt. The rest of the guys, they got to figure out who they are. But like Taylor Ward’s profile, it’s he’s what every one of the hitters, I guess, wants to be, right? You want to drive in runs. Well, guess what? He he’s figured out how to do that the last two years. And and and I don’t want to have that argument about he hasn’t done it enough. I will take the guy that’s played 156 games for two straight years over players that haven’t played two years in the big leagues yet. And think about that. The Orioles, they’re going to get better, but you need Taylor Ward knows what that looks like. Not saying it’s going to be perfect, but he knows what that looks like and that’s his role. Santand Deere could be the worst hitter on the planet for two weeks, three weeks, and then have the best three week stretch. Santandere in the Orioles. You guys want to take a look? You want to take a guess of what his numbers were back with the O’s scoring position? Oh, he was actually five. Are we saying in 2024 career with the Orioles? Let’s go 2024. where he had 102 RBI’s and hit 235. I’ll say he he batted 290 with scoring possession. Okay, Kevin. 274 scoring position. He hit 234 home run. 44 home runs, 102 RBI’s. So, but what was Santander’s profile? He was a bopper. Yeah. And he realized how to bop. So, that fit the Orioles lineup. Ward Ward actually is that Tyler O’Neal is what people hoped he would be. Ward actually is the production for two years in a row. So, um it it’s not going to be perfect. It’s not. Uh but I wanted to give context to this. First off, Jordan Westborg and Gunnar Henderson are way better than people are giving them credit for. And secondly, Taylor Ward on an RBI being that guy, he needs more credit than he’s gotten. But I get it. Why the shock factor? Because Kevin had to come on after working 28 hours in the day with locked on Ravens uh to talk about the move. So, you know, I’m I’m seasoned in it now. They they they trained Zach and I last offseason to do this. So, oh my gosh. Well, we’re we’re lucky it wasn’t 3:00 a.m. Like I said, I was going to say this is actually early for last offseason. We were breaking news at 3:00 a.m. about Corbin Burns. Do you guys want to get I mean, have you got We haven’t gotten one right yet for you guys. Terrible at this. All right. What was Santandere in 2023 when the Orioles when he hit 257 and had 95 RBI’s with scoring position? Uh-huh. Going bet 250. Okay, Kevin. 283. 305. Oh, I was closer. I was closer. Which one that just shows the difference he had in back-to-back years of one year was so so many of his home runs or RBI’s were relying on the home run ball and the other year I mean because that’s polar opposite that is that almost a hundred points more in the one year 80 or 70 74. So but but here but I’m glad you mentioned that Zach. It’s the years are going to change. You’re going to be better in certain situations than others, but what type of player can you be? Santandere for those two years, three, actually the three years, he was the Orioles best RBI guy for three straight years. It was just a role that he understood he and he was depended on for that. You know, when we talk about guys trying to figure out a role in a team, it’s hard. And especially when a lot of guys think they can do the same thing, not everyone’s an RBI guy. They’re not. Like I it’s not the case. you want your first baseman, third baseman be RBI guys. I mean, hell, me and the miners, I couldn’t do that well enough. And I didn’t play well enough, but the profile for me was, hey, that’s what you got to do. I didn’t do that enough, right? Um, and the guys that play first and third, they want you to drive in runs. And if you’re not driving in runs, probably not at those positions. The other ones, it’s like, all right, well, we got to fill out our team regardless who can be that in that role. Um, Jose Ramirez, we bring it up all the time. That dude, death taxes, and that dude loves an RBI stake. Just drives it in. Um, he he is the best RBI guy, I think, outside of Judge over the last five years. Um, which is insane. Yeah. Consistent though. It doesn’t matter how it looks. You know what the RBI’s that are at the end of the year, they’re good. So, yeah. And also, just look at what I mean. Also 31 doubles last year. So it’s not just home runs. I mean 31 doubles, 36 home runs. Uh led the Angels in that 63 singles. So it’s a guy that not, you know, it’s not just home run power and if you let get guys on in front of him, hopefully he drives them home. You know, that’s the biggest thing. Like we keep saying, I think the biggest takeaway is this is a guy that knows how to get runs in. And that’s that’s what you need on this team. It’s just a guy who can find a way to get runs in because how many times hell you want to go the 18 inning game in the World Series, the what 15 ining game in the ALDS. It was about people just who can get that final and sometimes not even the hit. Who can get the guy in? You know, it’s not always about, oh, can you you know what? When I gets thrown out at home, what if he puts that ball in the air, he you know, it’s a sack fly, they win the World Series. Like, it’s little things. Finding to ways to get guys home is an art. It’s a skill. And if you have someone who just has a knack for getting guys in, you take that. Yep. Yep. I mean, again, we know where the Orioles have been lacking. You know, we’ve talked about it all reaction here and they felt like they could get a guy in that can help them in that department. And you have to give up a promising player to get that player, but at the same time, and it’s kind of what I talked about at the beginning of the show, I am curious how hard they were shopping Grayson. And Ryan, you know, your the answer according to what you said was I’d assume probably they were just done. Like they were just like, “All right, this is not what we want to do.” And Elias’s comments said as such. Like when when he comes out and says, “Well, he’s missed a year and what, two months? Like you got to take into account like the writing was kind of on the wall.” I was I was I was honestly expecting if he was going to get traded, it would have been like him and others for like a better pitcher or something. Like that was kind of what I was imagining if Grayson was to be moved in a deal. Not necessarily a one for one like this, but you know, it’s it’s a big year. It’s a contract year. You know, guys sometimes ball out in contract years and so hopefully those strikeout numbers can get down a little bit and the power stays like we’ve been saying also. Yeah. I mean, just, you know, shout out Alex Fast for this uh stat on Twitter, but Taylor Ward had a sub 20.7% chase rate in 2025 that would have led the Orioles current roster. So, we talk about a guy who, yes, he’s going to strike out, it’s going to be a lot of strikeouts probably in the zone, but if he’s not chasing, if he’s working pitches in 2023 when they won 101 games, it felt like the Orioles could get a pitcher out so fast, even if they weren’t scoring. It was unreal. You would look up, it’s the fourth inning, the pitcher had already thrown 85 pitches. And it’s like they just had a way of making a pitcher work. Even if they were striking out, it was striking out on the sixth or seventh pitch of the at bat. So, you know, a guy who’s not chasing can drive in RBI’s for a pitcher that you don’t know the future of. You don’t know, you know, injuries and stuff. I understand why they made the deal. You know, I’m still like, you know, like you said, Ryan, it’s like a holy crap, they actually did it type feeling. But I understand completely where the Orioles, you know, why they made the deal. How about this stat for you, okay? Because this this is what the picture I’m trying to paint. First off, Grayson more than likely would have had some sight of restricted innings would be my guess just from what I’m seeing, what I understand with the game. And guess who’s also going to be on a little restricted innings limit? probably is going to be Tyler Wells going into next year. You hope that he’s ready, but it’s there’s a process, especially a guy like Tyler Wells, which again, that’s why you need two or three starting pitchers. I just said that that Taylor Ward has played 156 games in consecutive years. Do you guys want to guess the amount of Orioles that have played that played more than a hundred games this year? The number of Orioles who played more than 100 games this past season. Yes. Two. Uh I know it was Gunner was one past that. Is it guys that could be traded or like No, because none none of them. They won’t be the Kevin’s exactly right. Yes, that was a complete guess. Is it in Cowser? It was Jackson and Gunner. I was gonna say Jackson, too. So, here’s my point to this. The Orioles, not only did they not have more than two guys play over a 100 games, Cowser played 92. Adley played close. So, they only had four total players play more than 90 games this past season. So, like, let that sink in. When you’re talking about creating a consistent lineup and it and being dependable, you can hate Taylor Ward’s stats all you want. Again, goes back to if they are healthy and they have a track record. Now watch, like, knock on wood, I hope he’s healthy next year, but you know what I love to see is that you’re adding a guy that you can count is going to be in the lineup every day. We platooning derails teams in my opinion to an extent. Like unless you’re really good at understanding your role. The Orioles were good at that in 23, awful at that in 2025. But the other part is you need to know that I can plug in Gunnar Henderson, Jackson Holiday, and Taylor Ward every single day. And yes, injuries are going to happen. The freak injuries happen. That’s not my point. The point is Taylor Ward if he’s healthy and Gunnar Henderson and Jackson Holiday regardless of matchup they are in the lineup and that is something that you cannot undervalue and that gives teams confidence knowing that you have guys that are going to be in there. Yeah. You look around the league who the Yankees you can say about having Judge. Well, guess what? They also had Jazz in the games. They also had Cody Bellinger in the game. They really tried to They platoonuned a little bit with Ben Rice. They had Paul Gold, but they had a pretty damn good idea of who they wanted in those games. Yeah. Yeah. Red Sox, Red Sox had their guys, too. Pretty damn good idea who was playing for the Red Sox almost every game. The Orioles, you didn’t. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean a lot to do with injuries and then just you know you would hope you can get a consistent lineup where every day you know Gunnar Adley Jackson Westber you know I guess Taylor Ward even Cowser like those guys they are automatically in there. If you can get that consistency of guys, you know, we’ve talked to so many people that have played the games, managers. It’s like knowing your role going to the ballpark can make such a big such a big, you know, impact and difference in a season when you know what your role is on a team and it’s not forever changing where it felt like at times over the past few years. It’s like guy comes in one day he’s playing left batting second next day he’s playing center batting eighth next day he’s dhing batting six. It just felt like the entire lineup you didn’t know where you were on a day-to-day level. You didn’t know where you were playing. You didn’t know if you were playing. People were getting benched and platoon were being thrown together that you didn’t feel like platoon had to be thrown together for. And and I do think that you know Alber’s coming in. Hopefully we get a consistent lineup. I think we started to see that towards the end of last year and it benefited. But the biggest thing is just, you know, finding that consistency I think allows the entire offense to kind of join together more and get the most out of it. Yep. Yeah. The big the biggest part again was more that the Orioles were were ready to move on than it was of filling the need for Taylor Ward. But Taylor Ward is a guy that they are hoping can fill the need of being the dependable player. But time will we’ll let it play out. Well, Kevin, I’ll let you and Zach finish out with the Oh, it’s a crab. You don’t have a fish. No. Well, yeah, that that’s the crab. That’s the bird thing. That’s the 1930s antique penguin doors stop. 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Holy crap! An actual old-school trade of major leaguers! Challenge deal
The O's need pitching and they trade one of the better pitchers on the roster when healthy.Unless they plan on spending alot of money this off-season next year gonna be a repeat of this year.
You need piching and you trade young pitching with control for how many more years
Ok, I’m a 6, slightly positive reaction to this. Sad for Grayson of course, who I loved rooting for, and still will — great talent, and we all hate seeing injuries squander that upside
Just what we need it another strike out king him and cower need to be roommates the two strike out kings of the major leagues
I don’t think any real Orioles fan had any confidence that Grayson would stay healthy. Good move by the Orioles
I’m stunned trading a young arm for a one year rental. With G-rod stuff I would rather have him over Cade Povich. The orioles must see something in the health report. I hope this doesn’t end up like the Jake Arrietta!
June 2022: Lat muscle strain
April 2024: Shoulder inflammation
Aug. 2024: Teres major muscle strain
Feb. 2025: Elbow/triceps inflammation
April 2025: Lat muscle strain
July 2025: Elbow discomfort
August 2025: Season ending elbow surgery
I don't blame them for giving up on him. His mechanics must be a problem.
Mixed feelings. If Taylor Ward becomes fixture in Baltimore for 4 or 5 years and he hits 20+ dingers and 70+ RBIs then it’ll be a reasonable deal.
I love Grayson. Really hope he gets healthy for the Angels.
My issue is that Elias isn’t demonstrating the ability to put fixtures in place. I know the modern game is different but the great O's teams were almost set in stone:
Bumbry
Dauer
Singleton
Murray
May
DeCinces
Lowenstein/Roenike
Dempsey
Belanger
Palmer, Flanny, McGregor, Martinez
Ready to roll every night. We had fixtures.
Now, Henderson is a fixture. Maybe he should be at 3rd base. Holliday is playing…is he a fixture? Rutchmann is a fixture if he gets his bat back. Lots of questions marks otherwise. Westberg is ok…solid but I don’t see an impact player there hope he proves me wrong. Cowser, Mayo and Heston are all question marks.
I dunno…it seems to me to have to build up a foundation of every day players and Elias has done that. O'Neill? Sanchez?
They will get more from Ward than they would from Grayson. I'm surprised they were able to trade him.
If Ward goes .300/100/30,we sign Suarez/King/Suarez and go to the World Series or even deep into the playoffs, who gives a shit what Grayson does.
Grayson was not available…sad to see it but if we need something to help the team I’ll take a guy that will be in the lineup.
Luis Robert from Chicago for Grayson to me made more sense we need center field help. Another 230 average guy doesn't move the needle for me but I hope this means Valdez or Cease move is coming I'd even like one of those 2 and bring Effin back. We shall see
These numbers over that last 4 seasons, his age, speed and defensive abilities are very similar to and remind me very much of Anthony Santander. Hr amount, RBI amount, Batting Avg., defensively at corner outfield, only difference is Santander was a switch hitter.
This feels very much like the Dylan Bundy move
On a 1-10 scale for the O’s I’d give this a 3/10. I think we could’ve gotten more for G-Rod, I would have liked a top 25 Angels prospect as well to push this to a 5/10.
One key issue with this trade is that we only will have one guy capable of playing center out of our 4 best outfielders. Taveras isn’t as good as O’Neill, Cowser, Ward, or Beavers. Unless we sign another guy who can play CF, Taveras pretty much has to be on the opening day roster. That wouldn’t be the case if we got a different guy who can play CF. We may try Ward out there, but it probably won’t be pretty.
Giving up Rodriguez when you need pitching to use counterintuitive. It seems like more of Mike Elias unwilling to spend money that the owner is willing to spend.
Time to trade the Orioles medical staff.
10! Ward is the perfect fit so they can go get a stud pitcher. Grayson is a paper tiger.
Cowser in CF Ward in LF and Beavers in RF. Opening day outfield?
Rodriguez will fit right into the rotation that includes Mike Mussina, Jake Arietta, and Kevin Gausman