49ers’ Upton Stout on AWESOME rookie season, Fred Warner’s impact, WR matchups | Richard Sherman NFL

49ers’ Upton Stout on AWESOME rookie season, Fred Warner’s impact, WR matchups | Richard Sherman NFL

Welcome back to the Richard Sherman podcast and today we got an incredible guest joining us. San Francisco 49ers quarterback Upton Stout. Appreciate you joining me, brother. I appreciate you for having me, man. It’s a blessing to be on here. One of the one of the goats, man. One of the goats. I appreciate that. How you feeling? It’s it’s your first year in the league. Um you you’re playing a lot more than I’m sure you was expecting coming in, but you had an incredible training camp and you’ve been having a really good season. Um talk about how you feeling. Oh, I’m feeling blessed. I feel it’s a blessing to be in this position. Um going into week 12, I’m feeling the strain on the season, but it ain’t bad because I I know every week brings a new opportunity, but it’s like you could definitely feel the difference from like last year being around this time. I’ll be getting ready, thinking about where I’m gonna train at. This year I’m thinking about how I’m gonna end off these last seven to six games. But it’s like I’m feeling good. I know every week is a new opportunity, new opportunity to put something different on film from this past week. So it’s like just being able to learn and grow each and every week and try to get better each and every week. I feel like that’s really my main focus and it’s been feeling good though. Is it is it what you were is the league what you expected? Like coming into training camp, you had an incredible training camp. You were the talk of training camp. um if I remember and I remember coming up there and seeing you and you playing fast, playing confident, aggressive, physical, what what went into your mindset going into there cuz not not many rookies come in playing like you were playing. Uh I mean I feel like first figuring knowing that I’m coming to the 49ers knowing that what’s already indebted here. So it’s like me knowing that I’m going to come into a room that already had grace in it and the grace that’s in it now as far as DMO Fred or Boza. So I’m already feeling like I got to come in and step on my gas because like that’s the 49er away. So it’s like it’s either that or you going to be watching the game. So it’s like really just having that mindset just trying to grow each and every day and train kept leaning on all the vets and stuff. So I just feel like me just having that man let’s do it mindset like we just put it all on the table and shoot however it goes that’s however it goes. It’s all in God’s hand. What what vet do you think had the biggest influence on on how you start approaching the game and your routine? Because I I feel like when I was coming up, it was Marcus Shuant. Just watching how he carried himself, watching how he did things in the locker room, watching how he did things off the football field really had an impact on how I started to to do things. Who was that for you? Uh, I’d probably say it’s kind of like a little like a 50/50 with uh Demo and Fred. Just seeing the way like Demo approaches every game, how he approaches like all his reps and like the way he goes through practice Monday through Saturday to get ready for the game. And then as far as like with Fred, I just feel like when it comes like the body maintenance, like just the extra hours in the building and things like that, just getting your mind ready more than uh having your mental right before the physical part of it. So it’s like I just feel like just seeing how them two operate throughout the week and really I can just um pick up bits and pieces how they both maneuver through the week. Talk about Salah and how how how different he is and how much energy Salah comes with every single day. Uh, we all know it, man. I like a lot like he’s I feel like he’s the what’s the I wouldn’t say the Energizer Bunny, but it’s like like whenever he’s around like you you already got to know you got to be on point. You got to be happy cuz like he’s going to come around huge smile bringing that energy like the third down guru man. Right. The third down guru. I love it. I love it. Nickel. People don’t understand nickel might be one of the hardest positions to play in the National Football League and to come in and play it as a rookie and and to make the impact that you have a a great uh force fumble last week on uh on uh was it Higgins um at the goal line against Arizona? Well, yeah. Y’all couldn’t tell who it was. I just remember the play. But that was a huge play in the game. That was a huge play. Um you you got your first turnover on the game of your of your career. That had to feel good. Yeah, it felt good for sure. You know, during a moment like you don’t ever like you don’t ever focus on it just because like the eb and flows of the game like early in the game getting bomb deep. So it’s like really just like it’s always next mentality uh next play mentality no matter if it’s a bad play, good play. So like after that play was it’s a blessing during it. like during like you realize after just like during it’s like man what’s the next play I have to make for the defense or what’s the next thing I’m just trying to be on my P’s and Q just so like the f the first play don’t happen again we just leave it for the win I know you I know you’re looking for your first book I know you’re looking for your first pick for angle I need my first book man Jazz took my first one away I ain’t tripping that’s a little temper tabulite man I know it’s coming though I know it’s coming we got seven eight nine more opportunities so I know It’s coming in the woodworks. Yeah. If you look, great DB coach always told me, if you keep doing your job right, the ball will hit you in the face. You just got to make the play. Got to got to find you some way somehow. The ball got to find you. You play DB. Everything going to be on point, man. The ball got to find you. It’s going to find you. It’s going to find you. It’s it’s it’s cool. Y’all y’all such a young secondary and it’s been so many injuries, so many moving pieces. Jaire’s in one week. Malik Mustafa comes back. um Pennocks in there and and and it’s just been so much move. How do you guys try to keep the the continuity? It doesn’t seem like there’s any division or anything like that, but it’s hard to find a rhythm and communication. We played with the same group for a very long time. So, it was like knew him like the back of the my hand. Didn’t even have to look at him like, “All right, I know what you’re thinking. Don’t even don’t even look over here.” But it’s tough to build that with so much movement. How have you guys been working on that? Uh really just realizing like we we can’t make this script. We can only make how we could like how we approach every day. Like we like we all know like what we like what we bring to the back end and we all got our own role and it’s like we all we just got to own roller like if one rolls big nickel regular nickel dime like we all got to figure out our role and just own up until our roll. It’s like there’s no egos in the DB room. It’s like whatever your job is that’s your job and let’s figure out how we can do it to the best ability. And if it ain’t like if it’s any type of gray area, let’s just all figure it out. And at the end of the day on Sunday, we all got to go out there together and like let’s just come up come together and just figure out how we can all get it done as a back end. What’s been the toughest adjustment, you know, between college and NFL? A lot of guys come in saying, “Oh, it’s just so much faster.” I I can’t honestly say I felt that way a little bit early on, but I honestly felt like the league was a lot simpler for me than college because it’s so much you got to prepare for in college. It’s like 85 different offenses. In a league, it’s like three or four. You know, you got either this system, this system, or this system. But playing nickel is different cuz you got to you got to be looking inside, watch guard, pull, next available, all that. I didn’t have to deal with all that. I feel like as far as like kind of like the biggest change as far as like gang wise or like early on in college when I was at Nickel all we did like any type of motions or anything we just bump it all like it’s just once you get on one side like you on that side here it’s like hey you better tell me if it’s bump bump are you moving because the whole defense could change either if you stay or if you go so it’s like really just being on those motions trying to decipher what’s a true chew what’s a jet what’s a regular emotion. So really just doing that and just trying to be on point with just the e and flows of the game. Really just the motion part. That was really the thing that was really getting me in training camp the most especially you know how Shanahan offense is and my emotions going into one play. So you running overhead and me trying to run overhead and run over here just wasn’t like I was really just trying to indecipher and get all the areas where it’s like okay I can bump this, I can follow this, I can carry this and things like that. That’s like the biggest difference. KK K1 Williams. Um, one of the best nichls I think I’ve ever played with. Um, one of the best to do it. That that they People don’t give him enough credit that year in 2019. That boy is as smooth as they come knowing it, playing it, playing fast, being where he’s supposed to be. They said they got you in contact with him. What were those conversations like? Really, I was just trying to pick his brain. like really just trying to figure out like how he ate in this defense, how he maneuvered through everything like different route concepts, how he would play this, how he would play his man on this uh down distance, how he would play this blend technique, how he would fit the gap. So really just whatever I would get hit with in training camp, I wanted to know how he would uh how he defended and then I just wanted to see some clips of him like how he played it and like just how he was his man reps and just really just seeing everything that I can give from the time he was here and just really just pick his brain. I want to make this more conversational. I don’t want to just keep act shooting questions at you and you don’t got nothing for me. If you got any questions, you you you say what you need to say. I let me see. You know, I got a lot of question, but it’s we got time. We got time. You go ahead. I want to know like how was it like how was the DV group was like when you was here? Like how when you was the leader of the the back end like how was the how was the vibe? Like how would y’all approach the week? How would you approach every day and things like that going into like a game week? Um, uh, that’s interesting cuz DB was there. DB DB, my guy. Um, but it it’s just it it’s just a nice focus. We were a fun group. Uh, I thought we had a a good group. We had young guys. We had a mix of young guys and veterans. I think you guys don’t have as many vets, so it’s a little different. But Jacquisky Tart and and and uh we had Jimmy Jimmy Ward and KK, we had guys who who understood guys who hadn’t necessarily dealt with a lot of winning, but they understood how to play the game at a high level. And it was accountability. We came into the week, everybody knew, you know, you go your first and second down, your third down on Thursdays, your red zone, etc., etc. But we treated walkthroughs really seriously. You know, there’s a lot of there’s not silence out there. You know what I mean? You ain’t gonna be silent out there with me. I said, “We gonna talk this through.” You know, it’s gonna be very noisy in these walkthroughs. Very noisy in the on the field because you want to build that kind of confidence. Everybody knows. You got quiet. It feels like nobody knows what’s going on. Nobody You’re quiet cuz you you don’t know what’s going on. So, speak up. We could all be saying the same thing. Hey, alert spot. Alert spot. Alert spot. I’m good with that. Like everybody’s saying, but long as everybody talking, same thing. We all wrong, we all right. We can live like that. But if we silent out there, it doesn’t work. So, our preparation was really good. It was really detailed. We talk everything through. Again, like you said, no egos was the was the main thing. It’s all about winning. No matter what it takes, no matter who makes the play, who gets the interception, etc., etc., it’s about winning. So, if we need to talk to the backers and Fred and and uh Green Law or or uh whoever it is, we need to have those conversations. or hey uh Quan, whoever it is, we’re having those conversations. Hey, when we get this route, I’m going to play here. You going to drive that? All right. So, that dig is going to be open. How you going to play it? I’m going to drive this or I’mma play off and you going to like we need to understand how we going to play each and every route so that when we’re out there, we’re playing fast. And how we play it in walkthrough is how we play it in practice. How we play it in practice is how we gonna play it in the game. Yeah. Yeah. How long do you feel like it took for y’all to get that communication down where it’s like okay if it’s this and that or do you feel like right when you stepped foot like this got to change or you know what I mean? No, it took it took at least I got there in 18 and I had a Achilles and you know it was just not a great culture. Jimmy G got injured and we were beat up. We only won like four games which is how we end up with Bosa the next year. But throughout that year, I felt like we were building the habits. Like you, somebody got to be consistent and holding the standard. Like regardless of how things going, like this is the standard we’re trying to play to and we can’t just accept, hey, it ain’t going well, so we just cool with this. No, that ain’t never it. We got to be detailed. We got to be on our jobs to give us a chance. So, if we playing [ __ ] wrong and guys making mistakes, then there’s accountability. There’s no disrespectful accountability, but there’s accountability. Like, the coaches do it, but we got to hold each other accountable. Like it’s unacceptable. Not like, “Hey, [ __ ] What you doing, man? What you you ain’t doing your job.” Like none of that. These grown men, that [ __ ] ain’t never going to work like that. So it it got to be like, “Hey, brother. Hey, I love you to death. I know you’re doing your best. We can’t we got to be better than this today. We got to be better than this. Let’s be better than this. We all have to be better than starting with me. Always the finger got to start with you. It never can start at nobody else cuz that ain’t never how it’s going to work.” So always work to get yourself better and be the example and then you can talk to other people. But if you ain’t perfect probably need to work on you first. Yeah. Venture off to other places, right? So it’s it’s trusting each other and understanding like nobody’s out there alone. You never should feel like you out there by yourself. Like it you you out there with 10 of your brothers and we ain’t leaving you by yourself. Even you in the Nichollas man-to-man coverage. No, we got your back. We got your back. We not about to let you look. If he catch, we all swarming, too. We all swarming and we trying to get there to help you. Um, and I think that helps build confidence and camaraderie. But in those walkthroughs, make sure you talking. Make sure you taking them serious. We ain’t giving up no passes and walk through. I tell I hated that [ __ ] I hate I hate letting people score in red zone drills. I hate when they catch it at the five and you let them like walk in. F that. It’ll mess up my whole day. I’m like, man, nah, no. And and Kyle used to get mad because he’d be like, “Oh, y’all y’all yo, we we got to y’all got to let us catch it.” The offensive I don’t give a take us off the field then, Kyle. We ain’t we ain’t doing all that. Take me off the field and you can go get put the scout team on and you can catch a little pass. But that ain’t how we going to work today. That’s probably what it was. I probably had save the rules. Y’all probably made them change your rules cuz where it’s like now it’s like the first team is going against the scouts now. It’s not going to be like the one on the one that y’all made them change it. Yeah. It ain’t no one ones on one. We not giving none of that. But that’s the standard like how you do anything is how you do everything. And so once you live by that and you push that that it starts to become your mentality. You you walk through it and throw the ball back down pick like I don’t I don’t care. I don’t care. I might start wearing cleats to walk through if y’all start getting really really jazzy. DB don’t let us even come out there in shoes. He always, hey, if you going to be in a walk through, you got to put your cleats on. Too much anybody slip. Hey, why you slip? You ain’t got your cleat on. Standard DB know what it take. Yeah. No, for sure. For sure. What How long do you think it took for you to have like that mindset like like when you first got a league, how long do did you think it took for it to like, all right, bet like I can do this? I I honestly it was quick for for me because our group, you know, we had me, Cam, Earl, by my second year, we were we were rolling. And it was cuz we challenged each other every day. We challenged each other to be great. It wasn’t like, man, like like like y’all got Demo. Demo’s the guy right now. It wasn’t like, oh, Demo’s the guy. Like, man, you know, look how good. It’s like Demo the guy. I’m about to prepare as good or better than Demo. I’m about to know DB. I promise you got y’all as prepared as as as y’all can going to be. Like I know I don’t you ain’t got to tell me. I know. I’m talking about the indicating tape is deep. Whatever clip you trying to see, the indicator tape is loaded and but you got to translate it. And the way you translate it is making taking those like there almost should be no completions in in practice. Not that we were perfect like that, but we played so damn fast. If if we picked it in walkthrough, we picked it in practice and we picked it in the game like or they didn’t throw it in the game. But it wasn’t like, hey, we saw it in practice. They gave us the indicator in the game and we didn’t take advantage. You done lost your goddamn mind. Not against us. But that’s just high IQ football and you got to train yourself that way. Like when you playing fast and you competitive and you tired, you got to recognize those indicators and you got to play just as fast. You see it right here. Hey, remember in practice, hey, it’s max protect. Look, double alert the post. Hey, drive the dig. I got you over the top. Bang. Let’s go play. Be up, you know. So, I think by my second year, we were pretty dialed in. And then after that, we were just building on it, just rolling. Yeah. It’s like, you can see that on there. You can see that on the tape, on the film. It was like y’all was just out there having fun out there calling out the play before it even started because it’s not that hard. There’s only so much they can do. It’s not like people gonna come out there and reinvent their playbook. And I feel like that’s probably like what I’m really like trying to learn right now cuz it’s when I first got here I’m like man what if I get this route this route this route this route. It’s like young ain’t going to get all them routes like it’s only so much they can do in this formation. Only so much they can do in this formation. You don’t have to think about all those routes. Once he gives you his release and show you spam, you can go early and cancel out three of those routes now. You only get in two from here now, right? Like the game is so simple. Everybody runs the same stuff. Yeah. So, if you in the slot and y’all in the red zone or y’all at the 15 or something and they main receiver is at two, it’s probably a seven cut. Yeah, it’s probably a seven cut. If you got to guess, if you got to guess something and you ain’t got no indicators and you worried, guess seven. I I I would assume that’s what’s going to happen. They not really running digs. They could motion. If they do some kind of motion and and bring somebody out, it’s probably double post like 90% of the time. I’m telling you, like you play in a league long enough, after after your third, fourth year, you going to be like, “Bro, are they ever going to change stuff?” Like, are y’all ever going y’all gonna really motion and run double post every time when y’all do this? Like, I can’t wait to that point where it’s like, “Oh yeah, y’all really going to do this?” But, but that’s what I’m saying. Start paying attention to the indicators. Start paying attention to the patterns. You going to start the teams that that they repeat stuff. If y’all got beat by something, whatever you got beat on that 80 yard, that long pass. Yeah. Next five teams, you getting it. Trust me. Yeah. Yeah. Trust me. Yeah. Like that’s that’s what’s going to happen. And then the more you realize it’s not, oh man, what if they do this? Hey, what things have they done? And what can they do off of that? Oh, they’ve been running Smash Seven. Okay, they could run Smash Seven and Pump. They could run double seams. uh third and 12 plus. They’ve run this, they’ve run kite. All right, those are the things they can run. Not 500 different things. It’s like four. When I play when I first got here, like it’ll be boom, two on two running back way like some of the things you you could expect lying. But I’ll be like, what if I kind of get a corn a co I mean a post corner? What if he does a sale? It’s like my head all over the place. I’m just I’m trying to guard every route. We was like this. You can’t guard every route, man. You You You can’t You don’t have to. Yeah. You You guarding stuff. They couldn’t even They ain’t even got their playbook. Yeah. I think I got one post corner in my entire career. Larry Fitzgerald did it. And I got PI on the play. I ain’t going to lie to you. I got PI because I was not expecting it. I was like I was like post corner like damn. I was all over the post. Emma turned around to run the corner. I said, “Aha, Larry, I got to we got to we got to we I got to grab you. I got to grab you, baby. We going we going to go ahead and get to the next play.” But yeah, man. It’s it the more you realize that, the more it’s going to allow you to play fast. I’m telling you, that’s why I got 41 picks on the on the career. It start making sense. I’m chasing it. I’m chasing it. I’m chasing. Don’t chase it. Don’t chase it. Look, chase the play. Understand the plays in concept. the ball start hitting you in the face. You’ll be like, “All right, this is the concept. Oh, I I recognize that. All right, I’mma play this like this.” Quarterback going to be like And you going to be like, “Yeah, that’s it. Easy, buddy.” Throughout the week, was you big on film stuff or was you more of like a I got to go through it uh for in order for me to really like pick up on it? Both. Both. And and and don’t be don’t be frustrated if you ain’t either way. Like if you’re a field guy, then go get your field reps. Yeah. Then walk through it on the field. Y’all got plenty of free time. Go out there and if you need to walk your way through it again, take your walk through reps seriously. Like you the guy got if you’re the starter and you say, “Hey, the two I need a couple extra reps. I might need to like DB, I might need to take both set of reps this time. Like I need to see it.” That happens sometimes. You know what I mean? If you a film guy, watch the tape. You know what I mean? Understand it. do all that. But either way, whichever guy you are, I could do it both ways. Just master that. Don’t feel like, “Hey, man, I’m not I’m watching 10, 15 hours of film and it’s not sticking.” Like, it doesn’t work for everybody. Yeah. That’s okay. Some guys are straight field guys. Like they in they can watch install all day and not get a play. They can go on the field and walk through it two times and they got it. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so don’t don’t feel like you got to be a big- time field guy. For me, that worked out. For some guys it doesn’t. I get what you say. I get what you say. So who who’s been the toughest receiver so far you’ve dealt with? Uh uh the toughest receiver. I’d probably say on I fly I get bump every week just cuz like yo talk it talk your stuff. But it’s uh I’d probably say probably my first game with Cooper Cup just because like the amount of position they was putting and like you know I had missed the preseason for for injury. So this was really like my first time in real like game action and then like sometime we’ll be calling man and it was different cuz like boom you line up in the slot. Okay, like that’s regular. But now once you start going at the zoo alignment at running back and all other type of stuff like now like that’s kind of changed the way I got to play my technique. Like I can’t play pierce step or I can’t play the scooch. Now I got to figure out like now I got to try to play for Mark with you coming out the back field. Now I got to hold the angle route, the out route, the fade route. So it’s really probably that just like how savvy he was trying to run his routes and things like that. So I feel like that was that was a good a good first game. Yeah, that’s tough first game. He was vetting you up. He was hitting you all the vet stuff. He was all Hey, all the all the [ __ ] that you used to see on YouTube, he hitting you the same [ __ ] Like like it looked different in person. This [ __ ] coming at a different speed now. No question. I feel like Puka was Puka was uh he gave me some good routes, too, though. Like we gave me like some good some good releases and things like that. So I feel like those two was like a All right, bet. Let’s let’s do it. It’s going to be one of these. Like, come on. Yeah, it’s it it you going you going to learn. You going to go against everybody at some point or another. Some dudes you going to think, man, that I heard this dude was nice. And you ain’t going to feel like he as nice as you didn’t heard. And then some dudes you going to be like, you know, the mind of the DB. A lot of times when you get beat, you don’t even feel like this the receiver. Like you feel like, man, I should have fixed this on my technique and this was an easy play. So that’s why I feel like that that question is really it’s really hard to answer because a lot of times you feel like it’s on you like you they ain’t really do nothing crazy like you just did this or this wrong. All right. Like let them do it again. Watch what happen. Right. Right. My biggest advice to you would be trust your eyes. Trust don’t overthink. Don’t don’t put thoughts in your head and routes in your head that aren’t there. It’s hard enough to play DB with with the the stuff you got in front of you. see your indicators. Trust your eyes. Trust your preparation. Play fast. Like you you going to have a hard time getting books if you you trying to guess all nine routes they could be running. Like they not running those routes. All right. If if two going in, if if if two running a slant and one running a slant, how am I going to play it? Yeah. Like that’s when you start getting picks. It’s like understanding what’s about to come, what coverage we in, and where the ball should go. Mhm. Like, hey, they giving us curl flat. All right, we in cover three. So, the I’m the buzzer. I got to go with the flat. I could hold off a little bit in the curl window, but then I can go to the flat. That’ll force the ball to the flat. The the corner should be driving the dig. I mean, the curl. There’s a sit route over the ball that should pull the other hook. So, the ball should go to the curl. So now it’s like I’mma go to the flat a little bit and when I see quarterback set up, do I try to pick the curl or do I let tell the quarter, hey, alert, alert the curl, alert the curl so he can drive it. That’s when you really starting to to play. Yeah. Yeah. I Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I ain’t going to lie. It’s coming though. I ain’t lie. Yeah, that type of that type of mindset, that type of communication that backing is coming cuz even off that last game like I feel like last game was one of the most games that we was just out there communicating like oh 3×1 alert the stickers or alert the Darius special they didn’t two players in a row to come on let’s find make them play for us. So I feel like we pay for it. So I feel like last night like we was really on the communication like you could tell through the t the Wednesday practice the walkthroughs and things like that like everybody like all right bet like let’s own them. Let’s own the indicators. If you see something, say something. If you if the corner on the right side see something till the corner on the left side see something. So like everybody’s really just in tune and I already bet like let’s figure out how we can go out here on Sunday really like not let’s not just go out there and play. Let’s go out there and dominate our assignment. Yes. Yes. Y’all getting there. It’s clicking. I love to hear that. I love to hear that. Well, this this you got Monday Night Football coming up. This your first one. You feeling good? Yeah. Yeah, I’m feeling good. You know, I’m ready. I’m I’m ready. I’m ready. I’m I’m prepared. I’m ready to um see what Monday night has to come for. Yeah, I can’t wait. Good opportunity. It’s gonna be a great opportunity. Just go out there and again, take walkthrough serious. Keep that communication. Keep keep building that trust in one another. It’s going to all work out. No, for sure. I appreciate you. I appreciate you. Yes, sir. Appreciate you. All love. I app I know it’s it’s your off day, so I don’t want to take too much more of your time. We could go on for a long time. I need a jersey, though. I need a jersey in the wall. I need it. It’s a Okay. Okay. Let me let me get a J-bird on the Which one you want? Come on. I know you like the little J. I know JBird can get here in the next two to three days. No question. No question. That’s that’s what I’m saying. Which one you want though? Yeah. You want the NerS one or the Z? You you in San Francisco? Come on. I need the Ner one. Come on. That I’ll have JBird send me one off and get it back to you. I appreciate that. But that’s real. That’s real. Yes, sir. All love. No, for sure. That’s love for sure. Oh. Oh, speaking of that, I gotta get You want a jersey? I got to get some of your clothes then. You got to send me some of your clothing brand. You know what I mean? I got I got a clothing. I got a couple pieces. I can get you right. You You know, I be seeing you be throwing on the fist on the uh Sunday night. I got to throw you a little little Get your boy right look like how you want it to look cuz you know, you normally go button down and things like it. Ain’t no button down. It’s really like a little street wear shirt. Maybe you can get Well, look, look, look. I can wear it when I’m on the street then. Yeah. Yeah. You can look. You can wear it when you’re doing something like right now. Like you can wear it when you on the pod kicking it. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. Give me some of that lazy ways. No, I got you. I got a couple boxers in the back that I got to ship off anyway. Okay. Okay. Give me Right. Well, I appreciate you, brother. you enjoy your off day and we’ll have you on later on when y’all headed to the playoffs and you ball and you get your second and third pick and all that. Whoa. Come on, baby. Hey, hopefully the conver next time we talk, man, conversation stat sheet look a whole lot different. There’s a whole lot of more blessings on it. I know it will be. It will be for sure. No, for sure. I appreciate you for having me, man. I appreciate you, man. Anytime. Anytime. I look forward to the next time. Appreciate you. Love

Richard Sherman sits down with San Francisco 49ers defensive back Upton Stout for a deep dive into technique, mindset, and the real grind of playing corner in the league. He shares the challenges of playing nickelback and the toughest receiver he’s faced in the NFL. Sherman gives Upton some advice about footwork, leverage, eye discipline, and defensive communication. Stout also gives an inside look at training camp vibes, embracing the 49ers culture, and the impact of mentors like Deommodore Lenoir and Fred Warner. A must-watch for fans of DB play and elite defensive football.

0:00 – Intro and welcome to Upton Stout
0:35 – How Upton is feeling in his rookie year
2:00 – Training camp mindset and expectations
5:15 – Influence of veteran players and mentors
7:45 – Playing nickelback: challenges & key plays
10:30 – First career turnover and defensive mentality
13:00 – Young 49ers secondary: communication & growth
16:50 – Biggest differences between college and NFL defense
20:10 – Film study and preparation strategies
23:00 – Toughest receivers faced and technique adjustments
28:45 – Closing thoughts and upcoming Monday Night Football

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