Fix Your Franchise: Arizona Cardinals (Trading Kyler Murray)

The Raiders need to sign the female zookeeper from Madagascar 3. Elite short area quickness and ball carrier vision, then trade Genty to the Jets for a one. Jets will accept this because they are a poverty franchise. Wo. Yeah. Well, I got something to say to you. If you’re a fan of about 28 of the NFL franchises, you can call the Jets poverty. You like the Rams, you like the Seahawks. This is like being a homeless man on the sidewalk and walking by another homeless person and going broke ass. I lost my job, too. Man, you are one pathetic loser. You don’t get to do that. Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL stock exchange podcast. Trevor Sick with Conor Rogers here with you guys for another fix your franchise episode today. We’re talking about the Arizona Cardinals. Connor, this is going to be a fun one. We get to look at a lot of things. Well, it’s not going to be fun if you’re an Arizona Cardinals fan. Although, maybe it will be. Maybe it will be. Maybe you need this. We’re bringing joy. We’re theopium dealers around here. That’s what we’re That’s what we’re distributing here. We’re going to talk about a lot of things here on the show. We’re going to talk about draft history. The current standing of Jonathan Ganon in this coaching staff, the current standing of Kyler Murray trying to get, you know, seeing if it makes sense to get a Kyler Murray trade in here. Looking at the rest of the roster, we’re going to come up with a free agency strategy and of course wrap things up with a little three round mock draft. But dude, I knew I knew that that was going to be the cold open. It had to be from last show. That was the golden moment from uh from last week. But how you doing, my friend, man? What did they say it? If uh you build it, they will come or what? Yeah. Well, that that was me cold open farming at its absolute finest. And I I all I do is hand the little crop seeds to to our producer, Tyler Cook, and he makes a full garden of content with it. It’s just I didn’t even think of the Dumb and Dumber reference or anything like that. So, it’s just unbelievable, man. I’m good. This is another interesting one because here’s another team where it’s not that expectations were through the roof, but they were definitely higher than this. The start was looking okay and they’re spiraling out of control a little bit. And they’ve also just lost so many close games. Like every close game, it feels like it doesn’t matter if they’re playing a bad team or a good team, they’re in a close game. So, I’m fascinated to go through this exercise today for sure. Yeah. No, this is this is going to be a fun one. And um it’s not, you know, for Cardinals fans, I know it’s very frustrating. It’s it’s not all gloom and doom, right? I mean, like there are people who are picking the Cardinals to make the playoffs this year. And and I think that definitely there’s there’s pieces on their roster. It it’s just are they quite there yet? Do they have the right leadership? We’re going to talk about the front office. We’re going to talk about the coaching staff. Talk about what did you say? They spent some money. They spent some money. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like the a lot of the additions that they had on the defense are fantastic. And obviously like we will get into all of that stuff um as we as we get this underway. Let’s let’s hit the super chats, the early super chats because we’ve already got a bunch of super chats here from those of you guys who uh joined the show early. By the way, for those of you who are watching on YouTube, I know some of you guys, you know, listen afterwards and you don’t get to catch it live. If you happen to be able to catch it live, we normally open up the show like 15 minutes early. So we go live at 4:30. I know that the chat always loves to yell at us that we’re late, but we normally go live right at 4:30. However, we open it up at like 4:15 and we uh let the addicts get to say hello, good afternoon, you know, um talk [ __ ] about us, you know, it’s it’s time. It’s a great time. We love it. It’s great. We’re late. We’re late. We’re late. Connor and I Connor and I get in there and it’s always something that puts a smile on our face. We always uh love that good stuff. Okay, let’s let’s let’s knock out a couple of super chats before we get into our Arizona Cardinals rebuild here. Um, Sean, uh, Sean Marthus, uh, saying, “Halo, Squirts, already owned.” Uh, any chance that we can get a fixture franchise for the Vikings? Uh, if I have to watch nine chipwreck this team in 2026, uh, my head’s going to word, eing pop off. Pop off. Um, 10our super chat. We appreciate it. Did you see the streets are calling him 9 to5? Oh, no. Yeah, I saw it. I didn’t come up with it and I won’t run with it. I’m just relaying what I’ve witnessed from the streets. I’m not gonna run with it. You guys can run with it. You guys can run a marathon with it as far as I’m concerned, but I’m not going to run. You can sell across the Atlantic with it if you want. I’m just not going to participate in that kind of chicannery. Unfortunately, that is a good one. We We got to give it We got to give it to the haters. The haters are correct on that one. Look, you’re not the only one who’s asking for a Vikings uh fix your franchise. In fact, like you might not be the only super chat asking for a Vikings fix your franchise. We might actually have to get to Minnesota because there’s a lot of Vikings fans who watch this show who might want to make that happen. So, could be could be coming down the pipeline here. Yeah. The pro the problem and why they are a perfect fix your candidate in an odd way is the Vikings are built in many ways to win right now. Yeah. And they don’t have the quarterback play to win right now. So, it would be kind of a fun exercise for me and you to deal with a roster that is pretty close with a really good coaching staff. Uh, so maybe we will get into that. Jeremy Caner, thank you for the super chat. What are your opinions of the Packers at the moment? And Matt Laflur, do you think they are contenders? Love you guys. And f Big Tucks. They are built. That’s really good. Pass that too quickly. Thank you, Jeremy. You get the show. Throwing the going after big tux in there. It always it always uh it’ll always get me. The Packers are built to be a Super Bowl contender. They have not played week after week like a Super Bowl. They oddly played down to everybody. They lost the Browns. They easily could have lost the the Jamus Giants. U they did take care of their business against the Vikings. So, credit to them for that. Michael was amazing. They made the Micah trade to put them over the top and a contend for a Super Bowl this year. They just haven’t had, I think, the consistency on offense. their pass game is a lot of like big play down the field or run game or nothing. There’s not really like a lot of rhythm and flow with their offense all the time. And defensively, I’m really impressed with their front. They’ve had some lapses at cornerback for sure, but they’re a really strong defensive team. I don’t know, Trevor. They’re, like I said, they’re built to be a contender, but they have not played like a true contender to me in a loaded NFC yet. Dude, I I I like the Packers. I think the Packers are fine. I think the league is kind of wide open this year to be honest with you. I mean, there’s some teams that are at the very top of the AFC that you feel pretty good about. Obviously, the Rams are an absolute juggernaut. Um, but I I I think that it’s open for a lot of these teams. The Packers are incredibly talented. I think there’s certainly a chance that they that they get hot down the stretch. I’m not really worried about the Packers right now. And I’m a Matt Laflur guy. I like Matt Lafleur, though. I think record speaks for itself. If the Packers fired Matt Laflur, he’d be the number one candidate for every single coaching job that’s open. And I think whenever that’s the case, probably the Giants coach in 24 hours. That’s that’s what I’m saying. And so like when we do these fixture franchises, some people bring up names like that and it’s like those player or those coaches are the ones that you probably should not get rid of if other teams are begging to have them. Um, Zack $5 super chat. Happy Monday, boys. Happy Monday to you, Zachie. Uh, yesterday’s pass game activated my masculine urge to say we’re so back 20 minutes after saying it’s nicely done, Zack. That’s the, you know, that’s the ride. That’s the ride that you take during the season. So, uh, it’s all good. But they got the win over the Bengals, which I think was, uh, which was most important here. MJ Howick 1559. Tough week for Luke Goat Meer and JJ9 McCarthy in the great state of Wisconsin. That’s a You’re absolutely right, MJ. I called them both goober on their way out of the stadium, and I hope they never recover. Hash9 is their QBR. Wow. Wow. Wow. I won’t take the I won’t take the goat Myers lander. Batman got his $10 worth. Yeah, 100%. 100%. He said, “I have $10 and I’m chewing gum and I’m all out of the gum.” So, here’s my $10 super chat where I’m getting in every last bit of [ __ ] talk I got. Yeah, look, uh, it’s not great for the Vikings. We I think we’ll have a deeper conversation about JJ McCarthy at some point whether we fix the Minnesota Vikings or not. Hunter with a $5 super chat said, “Might have to wait a little while to pimp the Browns. see if Shadur could be anything. In fact, you are right, Hunter. The Browns were on the table for one of the teams that we were going to have for fixture franchise on this very Monday, but because their massive win over the Las Vegas Raiders, uh, we can’t do that yet. We just can’t do it. The chat is very funny on Sundays between me, you, and Tyler deciding who the fix to pimp your franchise is going to be because it’s like we’re like all talking on one team like, “Oh, no, they’re back.” We well to just you know full transparency as we love to say on the show we were going to do the Cowboys. Cowboys go down Cowboys go down three possessions for the Eagles. It’s 21 nothing early. We were like boom let’s start writing the notes now. Cowboys tomorrow. Let’s do it. And they have an incredible comeback. Shout out to Bri Brian Shenhomer who I was wondering if he was just like the some outside the box pick for head coach because Jerry was trying to out outsmart everybody. But man, I’m not going to lie, the way that they have handled uh the Marshon Nean situation, the way that they have come together as a team, the way that they have represented him and his memory, uh just how they have took such a a tragic situation and and made it for a motivation for togetherness and family and and letting good come out of it and and just coming together like in football and beyond football like I don’t know if you saw the clip of the Cowboys and Brian Shanahheimr after this Eagles win. But man, that sure looks like the right man for the job. And we talk about this all the time here on the show when we suggest coaching candidates for these teams. Yeah. A lot of times the the guys who are going to get the interviews are are play callers and, you know, they’re great with how they’re scheming up guys on a certain side of the ball. They’re calling plays like when you when you’re a head coach, you got to be a leader. It’s the most important quality you could possibly have. You’re a CEO. You’re managing people. and Brian Shanheimimer, good offensive mind, but man, I mean, he he just he seems like a leader of men. And I I just kudos to how he has brought those guys together and the Cowboys are um shaping up to have a fun end of the season. I echo everything you said, Trevor. I’ve been really impressed with Shotti. He’s come such a long way throughout his coaching career and there’s no denying Jerry’s on a heater right now. The George Pickins and Quinn Williams trades look phenomenal. They do. The shotty hire was kind of, you know, laughed off at the time. And Dak is playing some of the best football of his career behind an offensive line that I am pretty impressed with week after week. Kyle Culp, thank you for the $5 super chat. Kyle throws Kyler throws the ball like he’s trying to get a 360 no scope final kill cap. Sometimes he does. Sometimes he does. You know, I’m I’m a I I get it. Have we gone too far with Kyler the other way now? No, no, no. I was I was I would I wasn’t about to defend that. Uh, what I was about to say was I’ve never gotten a 360 no scope kill because I don’t even know where to begin. I watch some of these Tik Toks and before the Tik Toks, you know, YouTube video clips, whatever, of these dudes who are doing like the the full controller sensitivity 360 nocope, brother, I don’t even know where to begin. How do you hit these shots? And as and for like one guy in the world to hit a shot like that, I’d be like, “All right, one in a billion shot.” There’s so many of these videos. How are you guys doing this? You know what? They’re cheating. It’s a setup. It’s set up with their buddies for to go viral. They’re they’re they’re farming. They’re engagement farming. They are. And as someone who’s participated in the exercise, not proudly. I know what you’re doing. No, no, no. Your chest is fully out with the with that. I’m already thinking of my next act. Dude, you’ve got you’ve got a toothpick in your mouth. You got the cowboy hat on. You’re ready to farm, brother. Yep. Preston, $10 super chat. Uh, he said, “You guys advice on how to break into the industry from a couple of weeks ago inspired me to start making sports content. I appreciate y’all a ton, and I guess I’m now a fellow draft content creator.” Well, we absolutely love that, Preston. We’d love to hear from you. Um, and and we meant it. We meant what we said there. You know, do what you really love to do. We would love to. This is a This is a great community. The addicts are a great community. anybody out there who’s doing uh draft work, you know, whether it’s again mock drafts, written content, podcasts, uh salary cap evaluation, you know, you you make your own contracts like like Cam did who when he reached out to us a couple of weeks ago or whenever that was like we just love to see the passion, man. That’s the coolest part of getting to interact with you guys, the passion that y’all have for your teams, for the NFL draft, all that great stuff. So, Preston, we are happy that you have a place Hell yeah. to express your passion and uh that’s awesome, man. Yeah, man. Go kill it and good luck. Uh, it’s Wes, thank you for the super chat. Longtime lurker, love the pod. We need to fix your franchise for our Bucks. I’m almost out on bowls. His style is outdated and I’m also worried we’re a 10- win team with a lot of holes next year on defense. Yep. Um, what do you think, Trev? Laundry list of injuries, man. I I I hate to like make excuses, but at at points at different points in this year, they have missed Mike Evans, Tristan Warf, Luke Geti, Cody Mock, um Chris Godwin, Jamal Dean, Hassan Reic, Elijah Cany, Bucky, Ben Bredesen, Bucky Irving, uh Jaylen McMillan, and and now Baker like B and now Baker is hurt. Like what what what are you supposed to do with that? Those are those are basically your best players. He can. What are you What are you going to do with that? That’s basically everybody on the list that you built your team around other than Vea and Antoan Fu Jr. and now make So I don’t know. We’ll see. We’ll see. They’ve got a lot a lot of ball game left. A lot of ball game left here. Uh Daniel Solder $20 super chat. We appreciate you, Dan. Thank you. You’re always in on the chat. Uh we love going back and forth with you. We appreciate you getting in and giving us a super chat here. He says, “Thanks. Happy Thanksgiving. Trevan Connor of all my fellow sex addicts, especially Peter for keeping the lights on.” Uh Trevor Connor, would you prefer the NFL had free agency after the draft? How would that impact team build? This gets brought up, you know, once in a while. Do I want free agency after the draft? I have heard there’s coaches that really want this. I think it would be better now. It would be less entertaining. That’s ex That’s exactly right. But it would it would be it would be better because everybody would want to see what their draft is and then build around the draft. It’s a way better system, but it is you are 100% right. It is not as entertaining. Yeah, cuz free agency is extremely chaotic because of how tight of a window it is and how close it is to the end of the season. Yeah. So, I maybe in the next CBA it gets brought up, but I could tell you the player the NFL PA will need something really big in return because the the NFL PA keeps agreeing to more games because it’s more money, which is great. You got to give these guys more money if they’re it’s this a whole another conversation, but what are you giving them in return for putting free agency after the draft that’s going to cost free agents money? It’s going to hurt more markets than help markets. Mhm. So, oh, we were going to pay Dan Moore a billion dollars, but hey, we actually got a tackle we like. So, Dan Moore’s market now is a little smaller. Like, the NFL PA is not going to love that, right? So, it’s not I think it’s a really good point. I think it’s a really great point. Very difficult negotiation and that’s why this hasn’t happened. Um, Birdman, $5 super chat. I love being an addict. Well, we love having you here, Birdman. We appreciate it. Uh, I’m just kind of rapid firing a couple of fire away and then we’ll get $5 super chat said, “I usually joke, but I do have a question. Just how many of the quarterbacks that aren’t seniors will come out? Levit, Cer, Simpson, Moore, Mensah.” Um, I think of that group, I It’s a fantastic question, and we’ll talk about this a ton throughout the draft process. I I don’t think it’s a guarantee that any of them come out. I genuinely believe that like Simpson. Yeah. Do you think the winds are starting to blow a different way from Moore? Like that we thought he was going to come back and now he’s not. We’ve been operating the whole time that he’s coming back. And you have to ask yourself at some point if Simpson really needs another year starting and Moore is getting because of his talent these top 10 grades. Mhm. Is he just like, “Okay.” Yeah. I think anytime I think anytime you get a first round grade, if you’re any player at all, you probably lean towards leaving. There’s just too much variance that can go wrong, right? I I look at Garrett Nusmeer. Look at Drew Aller. Drew Aller. Drew Aller actually hurt his stock this year. He would have went at the end of the first or the second round last year. So did Garrett Nusmire both of those Yeah, man. User. It’s Yes. So I I’m not I’m not closing the door on Dante Moore. The rest of the guys though, like Levit, Sers, and Mensah, I will be floored if any of them come out. Um, Birdman again gave us $5 super chat said, “I’m a teacher and this is the best way to start Thanksgiving break.” Hell yeah. We love that. Welcome to your break. Enjoy. Yeah. Early early uh early Thanksgiving to everybody out there, by the way. And uh all right, let’s let’s Hey, Harbaugh, our boy story based on the cold open said, “I uh I wore a Brady Quinn jersey in Pittsburgh and a homeless man said that I wouldn’t even wear that if it saved me from the cold.” W homeless man. I’ll be you, man. That is that is it’s a loyal sports town, man. They love their teams. They’re not going to waiver even if it means being a little more chilly. Wow, that’s a good one, Harps. That’s a good one to uh to dive in. Yeah. To the Arizona Cardinals here as we are fixing this team. We see the rest of the super chats, guys. We’re going to try to get to as many as possible. Uh but we do got a lot to get through here for the Cardinals. their record currently this season sitting at three and eight. Uh really disappointing three and eight for them especially given the fact that they started this season two and 0. They were two and 0, right? I remember that correctly. I think I two and0 and then three and two I believe. Yeah. And then it’s just been off to a hot start. It’s been downhill ever since. So you look at last year um decent finish last year, eight and nine felt like they were close, right? in the defensive side of the football. I think they looked at a lot of that their defense and they said we’re just not talented enough, right? We don’t have the talent on the defensive line. We don’t have the pass rushers. Uh we don’t have the differencem uh cornerbacks like that’s a big issue for us right now. We need that CB1 type of a player. There were all sorts of defensive issues which they addressed big time. I mean in the draft they drafted Walter Nolan. They they they signed Josh Sch Sweat. They drafted uh Will Johnson. Like they address defense heavy. Yep. This off season to get better in that area. and the results just have not been there. If you go back a little bit further, Ganon’s first year, they went 4-13, which you know, it is what it is. You’re coming off the Kingsbury years and Kingsbury went an equal 4 and 13 in his final year. And then the 2021 year, that was their playoff year, right? That was when Kyler Murray had that MVP caliber season back in 2021. It felt like everything was going in the right direction. And then, like I said, now you guys see what’s on the what’s on the board there. Four and 13, four and 13, 8 and N, and then going in the wrong direction. And I think that when progress isn’t linear, that’s that’s always something that’s tough uh to sell the fan base. Cardinals in Cardinals record in one-score games in 2024 and 2025. By the way, I think this is why you’re getting some apathy and some frustration for the current coaching staff. They’re 2-6 in 2025 in one score games. They were three and five in one score games in 2024. This is another big one, Connor. Record versus teams with winning records in 2024 and 2025. They are three and 15 over the last two years. That speaks volumes. And I think either one of them or two of those wins were against divisional opponents, which you don’t like I’m not saying that those don’t count, but divisional games are often like coin flip. I I don’t want to say coin. You just you know the opponent so well. Anything can anything can happen in a divisional game. The fourth place team in a division can beat the first place team in a division just because you know the team. so well because you play them twice a year uh year in and year out. So again, I don’t mean to take any of those wins away from them, but even with that being the case, three and 15 against teams with winning records over the last two years, that’s just straight up not good enough. That’s not good enough coaching. That’s not good enough execution. And especially with the roster, the way that it was constructed right now with the Cardinals, as we take a look at some of the offensive grade that we have here for them, 22nd overall and overall offensive grade. They’re 12th in passing grade actually because Jacobe Brassette has been pretty decent uh since Kyler Murray has been out with his injury. Rushing grades 20th. Now it hurts that James Connor and Trey Benson have been hurt all year, but I think the offensive line also goes into that. And you see that with the grades now on the screen. They’re the 60.9 pass blocking grade this season. That’s 24th in the NFL. 52.1 that’s 26th in the NFL. That’s just I think the offensive line is a major issue for this team and I don’t think they had the ability to fix absolutely everything last off season, but not hitting O line additions at all until round six of the draft last year was um it’s coming back to bite him I think in a major way this year. But uh I feel like I’ve done a lot of talking already. Any thoughts on on on what we’ve kind of talked about there with the Cardinals? No, it’s a really good opening summary. Right. This is a team that they’re already victims of being in a division that, you know, arguably this is the this has the most powerhouse coaching top to bottom of any division. Obviously, the AFC West is in this conversation as well, but when you factor in that Shawn McVey is arguably the best coach in the NFL, you have Kyle Shanahan, who is one of the best coaches in the NFL, and now Mike McDonald has entered the scene with an amazing staff and has the Seahawks rolling. It’s already an uphill battle that you’re in a situation where like, hey, we being mediocre in this division earns you last place right now, right? And that’s not an excuse, right? But it goes to show you how buttoned up you have to be and how small the room for error is. And with the Cardinals right now, you mentioned their record against winning teams, Trevor, which speaks volumes of where they are. the kind of reverse now in in close games this year and the fact that you know this will be our conversation more about the roster than the state of the team but where are the needle movers on this roster right I mean seriously where where are the stars that going are going to take over a game I know they drafted Marvin Harrison to be that right and he’s he’s had a weird year because when he play it feels like Kyler has held him back at times and then he’s also had injury you know he has appendicitis right now I don’t think he’s a star. I think he’s on his way to becoming one. I don’t think he has been one yet. Yes. But I think your point stands like we we’ll we’ll go over the roster a little bit more, but I think on the offensive side, the point stands and the whole the whole point here is that you you would hope that Kyler elevates players to that level. And that’s very fair. I think it’s been the opposite. I I don’t Kyler hasn’t been the worst quarterback in the world, but you you’ve needed him to be more than he has been. Like I said, that 2021 season, he was playing at an MVP level and then was it 2022 that he tore his ACL, I think. And it it wasn’t really late in the year where he it bled into 2023, which which is why the record for Ganon in his first year in 2023, it it made sense. They were like, “Okay, well, we don’t have Kyler. Like, he’s hurt. Like, it’s all good.” And then last year, I was like, “Okay, Kyler’s back. They’re going to bounce back.” and they were very hot and cold. And I think this year was the year for him to really say if the MVP version of Kyler is going to come back, this is the year. And it wasn’t. Even before the injury, that’s not how he was playing. And so now you get in a situation where we’ll talk about a potential Kyler trade in a little bit, but you know, Adam Shfter tweeted around the deadline and when he was sort of on IR, not on IR, like what are they going to do with him that it felt like they’re heading towards a split between these two parties. I think just going to your point, you you hope that you have a quarterback that can elevate these guys who have star potential into those star roles, and I I just don’t think it’s happened with Kyler. No, it hasn’t. I mean, there’s an argument uh maybe a pretty easy one this year that he’s the worst quarterback in the division, right? I mean, when Brock Party is healthy, I take Brock Pie over Kyler. The current version of Sam the current version of Sam Darnold this year is better than Kyler. It is not Kyler at his best, but right now. And then the other quarterback in in this division is going to win the NFL MVP in Matthew Stafford. So, that’s like you’re stacking the right. We’re trying to stack the deck here, Trevor, of all like the problems. Well, and there’s a larger combo about Ganon, who I don’t think is horrible, but Ganon is the worst coach in this division by his own tier cuz you’re up naturally against Shawn McVey, Kyle Shanahan, Mike McDonald. Okay, what about quarterback? Kyler Murray is the worst quarterback in this division. So, you’re already the almost by your own tier significantly lower in the coaching and quarterback department. Well, how are we going to make up for that? We better have an elite defense, right? We have to have an elite defense. We need to have elite playmakers. We need to be physical. We need game changers, which we’re going to have to talk about. It’s crazy, but we’re going to have to talk about the Will Anderson trade at some point of this show. Like, they got this boatload of picks, but Will Anderson looks like one of the best defensive players in the league. What have they done to round out the roster with the picks? Well, they have Paris was one of the picks, right? So, what was the other ones? I can’t remember. Well, I have the trade up of what they got and then I’m sure there’s a lot of movement. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz we because we have the draft history. We have a draft history slide up here in and so they got that year it was a swap going back to 12. Yep. And then they got the 33rd overall pick. So, they must have moved that pick again. And then they got a future first. the following year, which I believe was the Darius Robinson pick the following year. Yes. Yes. So Darius Robinson was the other firstrounder they got in the By the way, like he’s at he’s getting better against the run, but he’s not playing anywhere near a first round caliber player. No. And you did you like did you like Robinson? I can’t remember. Not for that not for that price. I didn’t either. Yeah. I I didn’t consider him I didn’t consider him a first round pick. And you and I watched him at the Senior Bowl and we’re like, “Okay, that’s where he he blew up.” I know. It was like, “Okay, we got some man amongst boys reps at the Senior Bowl for sure.” Yeah. Oh, yeah. Totally has the size and people liked that he played inside and outside, but not at Missouri. He didn’t cuz he he was a defensive tackle who lost a little bit of weight and they put him on the edge and he’s not an edge rusher, right? So, you get Paris Johnson Jr., you trade back. I think they must have traded back and still got BJ Ojelari because they had Ojelari in that 2023 class. It was either they were it must have been man now I I I totally forgot about they were the Will Anderson trade so I don’t have the info up on where they were picking previously. So, I had uh Darius as the 63rd overall prospect in that draft. Yeah, probably around that mark. Um, yeah. And you and I were were doing this together at the time. I want to make sure I Okay, so the exact terms of the trade, just to revisit this for everybody, was at in the moment, yeah, the te the Texans came up to third overall and took Will Anderson and the Cardinals went back to 12. then which which which hold on here at the time they were going to take an offensive tackle. So I want to be I want to be No, I get that. I’m just saying I want to be I want to be fair to Monty here because I think there’s Oh, this is hindsight. No, no, no, I know. I No, I know what you’re doing. But I think there’s a I I read that a lot of people are like lumping in Monty Oenfort with um with Jonathan Ganon. I like what Monty has done. I I I I like I like what Monty unless I’m totally missing. Now, these aren’t egregious drafts. I want to make that very clear. Yeah, I think I think that this is good. I like the trade at the time because they were going to draft Paris Johnson Jr. at number three overall and they knew that they could get extra value for it. So, they trade back to 12 and then they trade back up to six to go get the guy that they would have drafted at number three. That’s why if you look on the screen when it shows our draft grades, that’s why I gave this an A+ because I loved this draft. You picked the player that you would have picked at number three at number six and instead you got an extra first round pick out of it. That is excellent. Obviously like BJ Oari, he’s your boy. I think he is pretty when he is healthy. He’s just injury luck. Garrett Williams, I think he is a good slot play. Well, I think he is a he is a decent slot player. I think that he could um be decent in the secondary rotation moving forward. He’s bad at all. Everybody knows that I’m a big Michael Wilson guy. And so like getting Michael Wilson where they did those first four picks in this draft. Excellent. I liked Krell Clark as a as a late round pick as well. I liked Owen Papo as as a depth linebacker as well. I liked this draft a ton from the Cardinals. And then if you keep going to 2024, I’m just doing this for the Monteport part of the exercise. If you look at this 2024 class, you picked Marvin Harrison Jr. because you needed him and you picked him at number four because let’s be honest like that was kind of the pick to make. I don’t I don’t that was the because what other wide that was a stacked wide receiver class. So who else was in that wide receiver class in 2020? Malik Neighbors. Malik Neighbors was in that class. Roman Dunay Brian Thomas Roma Dunce Brian Thomas Lad Manki Keon Coleman I think I had neighbors. Did I have neighbors above Marvin Harrison Jr.? Now I got to look. Now I got to look to see. Let’s see. 2024 scouting sheets. Cuz you you loved Marv. I think Marv was your number one overall player in that class, right? I think he was. I think he was. So yeah, I love Marv. Why would I have to sign in to Google? I’m literally already signed in. I’m looking at the sheets right now. I’m crashing out. I’m crashing out. You’re crashing out. I’ll take the wheel for a second. Um, yeah. The reason I gave this draft a really high grade is I thought and still think Marv will be a star. Yep. I just told you guys like I was way lower on Darius Robinson than them. I had him at 63. But despite that, I was high. I like the pick of Max Melton. I like the pick of Trey Benson. this there was players in this draft where I was like, “Okay, they’re they’re going volume because he Austin Fort took on a really bad roster and that’s why I’m arguing the Will Anderson trade is total hindsight by me. Yeah, I would have followed that process and taken the picks. But it’s just funny to revisit it because sometimes analytically we get obsessed with assets understandably, but sometimes a great player, not all the time, but sometimes a great player outweighs all of those assets. And I think Will Anderson is going to outweigh all those assets. And 98% of people probably Will Anderson was my top player in that draft over all the quarterback scenario. He was my number one player. But I probably if I was in the GM chair probably with the Cardinals roster would have taken all the assets they got, right? Yes. And passed on my number one overall player. So like it’s it’s hard, man. It’s hard. And this goes back to them being in a brutal division where there is such little room for error. Did you get into your Gmail? I did. Yes. Um, nine walls of protection. What a boomer question to ask me. Did Did you sign into your Gmail? Um, are you are you on Tampa Bay Trey at aol.com representative? Um, so I did I had Marvin Harrison Jr. as wide receiver one, but then two spots later I did have Millie. So, it’s basically a coin flip for me. But I also had Darius Robinson at 61 overall. So we were very much of uh of the same conversation there. So I I want I also want to set the stage for people for what Monty Austin for took over in 2023. This was a spot where let me see let me see what their where was their salary cap. Okay so in 2023 they got rid of Steve Kim. the way that Steve Kim had the contracts for the current team, they weren’t really able to spend anything in free agency. And that included having to let um Byron Murphy and Zack Allen walk in free agency. I think some people look at that for Monty and be like, “Oh, look, Monty left let those two guys walk. They’re now good elsewhere in the NFL.” When when the Cardinals were the ones to draft them, they didn’t have the money. They couldn’t do it. Monty basically had his hands tied behind his back and he’s like, I can’t sign either of these guys because he had $14 million to work with. Saints would have found a way. They always do. They always do, baby. Excuses are bricks that build monuments of nothing. Mickey Lumis said on said as he drowned in void years. When you look at their roster after Byron Murphy and Zack Allen walk, which we mentioned they didn’t really have the ability to resign, it is DeAndre Hopkins who’s not going to be who wasn’t going to be there much longer. Maris Brown, Rond Del Moore, DJ Humphre, Josh Jones, Yalda Fhole, Will Will Hernandez, who are still there and they haven’t done anything with those positions really. Kelvin Beichchum, Zack Z, Kyler Murray, James Connor. Okay, we know a lot of those players left this team just a year or two after. And then brother, listen to this defense. Listen to what Monty inherited. Jonathan Led better, Leki Fu, Rashard Lawrence, Maj Sanders. These are all starters, by the way. I’m reading the starting lineup. Zan Collins at inside linebacker by the way before he was an edge. Kaiser White, Cam Thomas, Antonio Hamilton, Buddha Baker, Jaylen Thompson, Marco Wilson, and Isaiah Simmons at the nickel. That’s terrible. Yeah, he was he inherited a terrible roster with no salary cap. So, all of that just to just to bring more context into I I’m with you. I would have traded down as well. You get the extra first round pick. You get Garrett Williams in the second round as well. I think what Adub says, “The Legion of Whom.” The The Legion of Whom. That’s one of the best comments we’ve ever gotten. I couldn’t contain myself. The Legion of H. No, that’s really what he inherited. Oh, that’s that’s that’s a good winner winner. Show’s over. That’s a that’s a that’s a top comment. Hall of Fame comment. Oh man. But all of that to say, Legion of Whom included, I think Monty’s done a really good job with this roster. I think this roster is capable of winning and I think that’s why we’re having the conversations that we are about Jonathan Ganon and about Kyler Murray because I think the rest of the stuff is there. Is the offensive line good? No. But if those two guys, Jonathan Ganon and Kyler Murray looked better and this team was even competitive within a tough division, I very much understand that. But if they were even competitive, they are this upcoming off season away from going all in on offensive line. And this team, even in a stack division, could legitimately be competing for the division title and for a playoff spot. And I think that’s why it’s so it’s it’s so much more glaring in my opinion on Ganon and Kyler Murray because I think that Monty has taken a roster that was bad and did not have a lot of flexibility right off the bat and he has turned it into a much much much much more talented unit top to bottom. So Monti Austin court guy still I would keep him employed for sure. He has clearly put in a scouting staff that is it’s it’s not they’re not blowing drafts, right? They’re not just like player after player. And I lean as well that it doesn’t feel like this staff has gotten and injuries aside because there’s been a lot of them, but the staff hasn’t gotten enough out of them as well. So it feels like Monty deser and if Monty wants to start over at quarterback. I think you give him that shot right now. That’s that’s another layer of this as well. So we are not moving on from the GM in this exercise. The question is going to be is this an organization that still instills their trust in that GM and lets them go out and hire another coach. I I I think so. I think that they should. I really do. You you want to talk about head coach candidates before I mean, it’s at least a conversation. This team is spiraling out of control right now. So, a lot of the the the head coaching options to me for this team look very similar to what we talked about last week with the Raiders. Like, I think that you’re thinking about Clint Kubak, Joe Brady, Chris Schula. I I mean I I don’t man I I don’t mean to sound like a broken record, but like shoot if the Bucks don’t have a great year and they get rid of Todd Bulls, I want them to hire Chris Schula. Got it. And so you know what we talked about for the Rams of Shula being the head coach and Mike Lafleur being his offensive coordinator. I mean that’s you’re going to be hardressed to find a better deal than that honestly from from us. So like that Jesse Mter’s in this conversation as well. Uh Anthony Campanile from from Jacksonville their defensive coordinator. Kelvin Shepard the defensive coordinator from the Lions. Adam Cenovich from the Green Bay Packers. Uh a lot of that is sort of it’s the same it’s the same guys I think. Is there anyone in particular that you like the most maybe for this Cardinals team? And then specifically, offensive side of the ball or defensive side of the ball when it comes to the expertise. Do you care one way or the other? No, just get the best guy to answer the last part first. But I do think they need somebody that understands the division and think about the division. Shawn McVey and I know they all have their own little wrinkles because they’ve all evolved in the big chair. Mhm. But Shawn McVey, Kyle Shanahan, and Clint Kubak, the offensive coordinator of the Seahawks, all come from the same family tree of coaching and ideas and principles. And yes, they have their own wrinkles and they’ve evolved over the years. But the the idea of Schula is that because he’s been with McVey with the Rams since 2017 in different roles, is Schula in theory will know how to counter that. So you do there are times where you have to make moves solely on the division you play in and this coaching hire feels like it needs to be one geared towards competing in their division. So I think Shula would be at the top of the list and if you wanted to go on the offensive side then Kubiaak comes into play as well. But I think Schula will be viewed more positively for a head coaching job because of his personality and the way he carries himself and all the experience he has in one place at the Rams. And that’s just my take on that one. Um, who who said this comment? I want to make sure. Oh, Brennan saying no love for Vance Joseph. I think Vance Joseph is is certainly putting himself in in consideration as well. He’s got the former head coaching experience. It didn’t go well for that doesn’t fire me up. I’m just going to be honest. And I think that that that might be that might be where we’re at. If if you know, if you’re moving on from Jonathan Ganon and you’re trading Kyler, you’re almost going like totally new era. Do you want just sort of like a lot of new? And I I I feel as though if the Cardinals are going to move on from Ganon, I don’t think I just don’t know if I think the the the point that you bring up is a really good one. If you are moving on from Jonathan Ganon, you have to look at the rest of your division, you have to look at Shawn McVey and Kyle Shanahan and Mike McDonald, three of the best head coaches in the NFL. You have to believe that this next guy is going to be in that tier. And if you think that Vance Joseph is a solid coach and he’s a good coach and he’s going to be fine for you, guess what? You’re going to stay in third and fourth of the division cuz those other guys aren’t going anywhere. Sean McVey is not going anywhere. Kyle Shanahan’s not going anywhere. I don’t think Mike McDonald’s going anywhere. You I think you’ve got to take a massive swing. Like I would I would be either you got to go find the next one of those three. Sorry. Honestly. Honestly, you do. So Chris Schula or I I’d say Jesse Mentor, too. From the way that people talk about Jesse Mentor, I think those are the two guys that you’re talking about here. That’s that’s that’s who I would go with. I would go with one of those two guys. Wilfford in the chat brought up an interesting combo, but I want to explain why I didn’t view it as an option. He said solo with McDaniel. I’m not as convinced that Mike McDaniel is getting fired anymore. Yeah, I I I they’re very close, those two. That would be a pairing if existed. I don’t hate that one. I don’t hate that one. Salah had Salah’s a weird one, right? because Salah gets the defense and I understand it that like oh everything was a disaster with the Jets and he was wrapped up in it and I don’t really agree with that to a certain point. Yes, there were things out of his control with the Jets that didn’t work like Rogers and Woody and all those things but Salah also was a was not ready to be a head coach. He was a bad in-game decision maker. He was their game planning and decision- making and everything like he he has a long ways to go now. I think he’ll get another chance eventually in the NFL and hopefully improves like a lot of people do. Yeah. Um but I I would be much more inspired once again by one of the unknowns naturally. I think that this is a I think this is an interesting um comment by Jordan as well. How uncommon would it be for an in division hire? I don’t really know off the top of my head because you know there’s there’s all those like well you don’t trade in division. The NFC North just did it. The Bears hired Ben Johnson. The Bears did just hire Ben Johnson. So I guess yeah that there there is certainly precedent to do it. I don’t I don’t see it as the same as like oh like cuz you you can block interview I never know like what the rules really are to block interviews you know it’s usually based on promotion. You’re not supposed to be able to block a promotion. If you don’t Yeah. So technically, if you’re an offensive coordinator like Mike Lafleur that doesn’t call plays, an OC job that allows play calling is a promotion. Okay. Okay. Technically, there’s a lot of verbiage that teams find loopholes within these things that gets convoluted, but that’s typically how it goes. Okay. All right. To be different, what if we did Kubak for this team? Yeah, sure. because I think that we same process we just followed. I think that Kubak is would would be awesome. Um especially if he could bring a a trusted defensive mind with him because this defense is really really talented and the last thing you want to do is you you want to you don’t want to let the talent on that side of the ball go to waste. You’re also going to need somebody who if if you’re moving on from quarterback, which it feels like they are going to, you’re going to want somebody in the building who you feel really good about to call plays for them to have them grow and just to make them a cornerstone of, you know, whether it’s somebody that you’re drafting, you’re trading for somebody, whatever that is. So, let’s go Clint Kubak here for head coach. Sound good? Who’s Yes, it does sound good. Who is a defensive coach that might get let go this year out of head coach? And no, you can’t hire Jonathan Ganon to be the DC. Yeah, that one actually stick around. Um Oh, a long list. Who’s the guy that we just said for the Raiders? Who’s been around? Who just Who comes with the job? Oh, we said he comes with the plays. Patrick Graham. Patrick Graham. Patrick Graham. Uh Shane Shane Bowen just got fired. But again, like if you’re getting fired, oh god, Shane Bowen had a bad year with the Giants to say the least. Raheem. Oh, Raheem. Raheem potentially. I mean, and I would imagine there’s some crossover like Kubak would have contacts to Raheem. Def depending on how the Panthers Panthers fans, I don’t mean to uh I don’t mean to throw, you know, cold water on you. depending on how the Panthers finish this season. If you move on from Aziro Evo, like if he has to be a scapegoat instead of Dave Canales, I think he’s an option, you know, Clint Kubakiro Evo as a defensive coordinator. Very possible. I mean, Todd BS maybe, you know, if he’s out in Todd wants to keep coaching, just go be a DC and right, I go back to his old job. I’m not even thinking that was Todd’s job before the Jets. Yeah, Todd was the DC in Arizona. Uh, yeah. So, do you think what are the odds Todd gets let go in your Bucks’s mind? 6040. I truly don’t know, man. They’re not a very uh eccentric organization. They try to operate like with a pretty level head most of the time. They absolutely do. Yes. Yes. So, they do. I don’t know. I don’t know if they’re going to let the injuries just be an excuse for this year or not. I don’t know. It depends how they It depends how they finish. Somebody Brentton saying, “Didn’t Bulls just sign an extension?” Extensions don’t matter. No, unless you’re Unless you’re Mike Brown. What do you mean? The Bengals don’t fire. Oh, right, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, right. Right. That’s the only place where it matters. I think the Glazers are doing all right. Maybe they’re not. I don’t know. Yeah, they’re doing okay. Hey. Uh, okay. Before we get into free agency, we’re going to take a look at the roster. We’re going to get into a mock draft. We’re going to do all that good stuff. Uh, this BFF betting segment or NFL betting segment, I should say. Uh, brought to you by our friends over at DraftKings Pick Six. Turkey, which by the way, would love to hear in the chat who’s for and against Turkey on Thanksgiving because it seems to be a dividing topic right now. 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No full screen. Way to let Connor starve. I actually don’t have an uncrustable with me today. But that made me laugh. I don’t believe you. I know. I wouldn’t believe me either. I think I think I think you always come uh I think you always come prepared armed and ready. Oh, so Connor just starves today. Starves withdrawals. Okay, let’s dig into the roster. Projected. Wait, wait. Uh let’s rattle through some super chats. Sorry. Sorry. We got to do that. We gota we got to get the super chats. Um $5. Finle. Hello from Dublin. Miniature Bros. What the hell? That’s next level. Uh with Iayuk, which we appreciate you. Thank you for tuning in from Dublin. It’s awesome. You live in a wonderful city. Visited this summer. It’s a great man. Um back, dude. Live show in Dublin. Live show in Dublin. If we do an international live show, the first one, no matter what, I think would be Dublin. It’s got to be Dublin. Five pints of Guinness in. What an incredible P. Love Ireland. Um, with Aayuk’s situation in doubt, do you see the Niners going for a wide receiver in round one? Maybe Chris Bell? No, because I feel like you drafted Ricky Pierol to kind of be that. You have George KD. You feel good about Christian McCaffrey. Like, yeah, I could see them drafting a wide. Jawan Jennings is good. Yeah, Jawan Jennings. Is he a free agent? He might be a free agent. He didn’t love his contract over the summer. But who does? Am I right? That’s right. I think he’s a free agent. But anyways, I think they’ll address wide receiver. I don’t think in round one. I really don’t. Um $2 $2 from Mahal. Uh for Trev, fix the Bucks. Maybe. Can we just give it a couple weeks, please? That’s good. Good mindset. Charter, thanks for the $5 super chat. Can we fix the Raiders again? Maybe every week. Just got blown out by the Browns, lol. Hey, we fix fans. That was a clutch loss. Clutch loss because now you jump the Browns loss in the draft order. Huge loss. You needed that one. You really had to have it. Had to have it. Mike McCarthy 69. Clearly the real one with the $5 super chat. Very clearly the real one. Uh what’s up boys? You find me a head coaching job yet? If not, I’m just gonna launch the draft simulator into the atmosphere. I agree. The stock is up for the mockdraft simulator. Thanks, Mike. Appreciate all your hard work drafting every single mock draft that anybody does on the MDS. Chub79, Goat Meer becoming Goof Meer sadly. There he is. That’s Chave. Don’t let him fool you with his disguise. Are those swimming goggles? I think they are. That’s great. Um, okay. Dirty bird Nate $5 super chat. We appreciate you. Can we please start calling this pimp my chai? Just go full shorthand. Can’t wait for the Falcons episode. Pit my ch uh picks and spreads. Donnie saying first uh first thing to do is ban Drew Petting to the shadow realm. Yeah, not a great year for Drew Petting. fan bases love nothing more than absolutely nuking their offensive coordinator. Yeah. Yeah. Nobody ever likes their offensive coordinator. They don’t. They really don’t. It’s true. Brownie 3623 finally able to tune in to fix your franchise live. Feel like a real sex addict now. Love the read that one out loud your at home. Love the work y’all do. Especially Chef Cook and Peter Gohawks. Thank you, Brownie. Appreciate it, Brownie. Uh Andy Hamill $5 super chat. Kyler Murray 5 foot n in playoff games. Yeah, regular season Kyler usually more of his dating app profile. 5’11, but definitely 5’9 in playoff games. Ruffy an addict. If you’re 59, can you round up to six foot on the dating profile or no? Is that too much? No. Cuz I think if you’re 5’10, you can get away with it. Yeah, 5’9 and six. Like I think 5’9’s it’s it’s the ladies the ladies are going to know and then they don’t figure it out. They don’t trust you. You already you didn’t you haven’t even gone on a date and as soon as you meet they go oh he’s a liar. Yeah. Yeah. But then just be who you are fellas. You’ll be fine. That’s true. Just you know if you’re a short king just be a short king, right? It’s all right. Uh Ruffy an addict. Trade Kyler for a sixth or seventh rounder. Yikes. Squirt. Chad is a little out of pocket today. I’m not going to lie. They are one. Um Randall $2 super chat bold parlay picks for tonight. Uh I have a I have legs five and six of a six leg parlay on Bryce Young over 28 and a half yards passing and over 33 and a half completions and you’ve cashed four legs already. Correct. Oh wow. You’re in for a sweaty Monday. Correct. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah. I’m going to be watching the game from the bathtub cuz I’m going to just be sweating profusely. Yeah. Uh, I’m a pretty simple man. All I have on the game tonight is George KD over four and a half receptions. So, coward. When you like something, you like it. Uh, Braden Jacob, the drafts from Monty are pretty solid. The real problem is that the Cardinals just can’t stay healthy. Their whole team is hurt every year. Thank you for the super chat, Braden. And yeah, a lot of injuries for this team. Jacob, $5 super chat. Drake May and Luke Goat Meer. I’m a rare Patriots, Illinois fan. Wow, you very much get this podcast then. Yeah. That’s a really interesting combo. I’m assuming you’re an alum that’s from the greater New England area. Yeah. Or whatever the hell you want to do. Maybe you just like Illinois. I don’t from Or maybe they’re from Illinois and then they played for the Patriots. You know, you’re on to something. It could. Yeah, I think that’s more likely. Luke is all right. Thank you for the $5 super chat. Are you guys ever going to try to fix the Browns? You’ve done the Jets, Giants, and Patriots twice and not once touched the beloved factory of sadness. The problem is full transparency. Every time we’re about to fix the Browns, they win. They win a random like, “Oh, you beat the Packers. They win, right?” Oh, shore beating the Raiders isn’t really shocking, but yeah, the time is coming. Yeah, it will. We We will get to the Browns this year. We promise. We have another Browns feature franchise in a couple in ever actually on the show. It will be coming um sometime this season. I promise. Last one. $2 from Kyle Legion of Whom shirts for NFL merch. could that that could that could hit. That really could hit. Okay, let’s dig into the roster here for the Arizona Cardinals. So, the projected starting lineup that I have here, I got Kyler in question mark at quarterback because we’ll talk about that in a second. Trey Benson at running back. They have James Connor under contract for another season, but he’s coming off of his foot injury, which he has missed all but three games. They can save 8 mil on the cap if they cut him. He’s going to be 31 next year. I don’t know. They have the cap space to keep him and he’s not making that contract. They rework it if anything. Yeah, but it’s the last Yeah, but it’s the last year of his deal and he’s 31. What are you going to do? Extend him coming off of a foot injury? No, he he has to take a pay cut. Oh, yeah. He’d be like, “Hey, man. You’re you’re hurt all year. We love you. You know, you’re getting older. We’re You’re not going to be our 1A. Trey Benson is was drafted to eventually be our Yeah. Then he then they’re going to cut him. They’re either going to have him take a pay cut or they’re going to cut him. Yeah. I think if it’s all right. So, there’s a reason why I only listed Trey Benson in there, but potentially James Connor also in the mix. Marvin Harrison Jr. My boy Michael Wilson who is having a hell of a season. The last two weeks have been nuclear monster. This podcast always believed folks. That’s why you watch NFL stock exchange, right? For the gems. Not for the absolute. No, of course not. That’s why people watch because they want to jam. Everybody could talk about hits. I got Michael Wilson out here balling out. Easy part of this job. Go find yourself a Roy Lopez. Nobody can outside of what we do. Trey McBride obviously stud tight end. Uh, wide receiver three, I guess. You know, could upgrade here. They got Greg Dorch. Greg Dorch. Yeah. But I mean, he’s been around since the Obama administration. The Obama. That’s a great one. That is a good one. That’s He’s been around since the Obama administration. It’s It’s crazy. Feel like I was watching Greg Dorch when I was in middle school when he was in college. They have Paris Johnson Jr. at offensive tackle. And then I have question marks for every other position. Now that’s fair. Y’all the frohole could still be the center next year. Isaiah Adams could be one of the guards next year, but Jonah Williams is a free agent. Uh I don’t think that Evan Brown can be a starting guard for you. Will Hernandez is also a free agent. So I think they have the ability to play four new offensive linemen next year. Probably not going to be all of them, but I think that’s all up for grabs. Now on the other side of things, the defense, Josh Sweat, Baron Browning, and BJ Oelari at edge, Walter Nolan, Dalvin Tomlinson, Darius Robinson at defensive tackle slash the interior Dline because they like to play an odd front as well. M Wilson and Cody Simon at linebacker for next year, which is it the best linebacker unit in the NFL? No, but Matt Wilson’s playing a little bit better this year. Cody Simon’s coming along as a rookie, so you’re okay with that if you have to live with it, right? Will Johnson is your CB1. And you got Max Melton on the outside, Garrett Williams play slot, Buddha Baker, and then they have Jaylen Thompson who they can re who they can resign because he has a void year. So you could resign him if you want and actually get something out of the dead cap that you would have with him having a void year. Or you could just play Drien Taylor Demerson, who I am a big fan of and who I think could be a starter in this league. So I’m I’m pretty good with what’s go and that’s not without even mentioning like Zen Collins is there as well. Like I I’m I’m pretty all right. Kas Campbell, who you could bring back if he wants to play another year, and he’s still good. I think this defense is is is pretty dang talented, man. It’s crazy because you look at it on paper and you you feel like this should be a better unit. You really do. And and Ganon was brought there to build this unit. I’m I’m with you, Trevor. This isn’t a talent. This is far from a talentless unit. Yep. Far from it. I mean, I wouldn’t if I was them. Like, could you argue, okay, maybe we want to be better at one of the corner spots? Maybe, right? Maybe another pass rusher if you’re a little worried about all of those guys staying healthy because they’re all a little injuryprone. But it’s nothing jarring. There’s no jarring hole, right? I agree with you. This defense should be better. It should be better. So, so that brings So, that brings me to like team needs. We’ve got quarterback, offensive tackle, guard, center potentially, and then interior defensive line and linebacker. I mean, you could do corner, but I think you’re all right with corner to be honest with you. I think this is just a big figure out the quarterback position and the offensive line and then the rest kind of fall after that. What do you feel about it or how do you feel about it? Yeah, they need to rebuild this offensive line. And the reality is if this team can rebuild this line and and control the clock a little bit more offensively with the run game, it’s going to help the defense. And obviously the the elephant in the room is quarterback. People are saying that inside linebacker looks weak. I I agree like Davis Gaither hasn’t been good for this team, but I think Cody Simon has has looked okay at times with him in his rookie year. Um, I see that like him is saying that that they need a true mic linebacker. Again, I agree, but I think that M. Wilson’s been better this season. So, I think you’ll look for an linebacker upgrade if you can make one that makes a ton of sense for this team. But, I think the rest of the unit around linebacker is is talented enough where you could be okay with the guys that you have going into next year if you feel like you can’t fix everything, right? Yeah. So, the cap space for the Cardinals, they have 2 or 24.2 million in effective cap space right now. That’s the 16th most in the NFL. So, they’re right in the middle of total cap space for NFL teams. Conor, this is a very interesting part of this. They currently have 51 players under contract for 2026, right? That’s the most in the NFL. So, they have 24.2 effective cap space and yet 51 players are signed. You you look at their free agents. Their free agent list right now is Jonah Williams, Kas Campbell, Jaylen Thompson, Kelvin Beichchum, Greg Dorch. Oh, Greg Dorch is a free agent. Um Will Hernandez, LJ Collier, Z Jones, Jonah Williams, and Jaylen Thompson both have void years in 2026 totaling in 11 million on the cap. I I do not think that they’re bringing Jonah Williams back. He’s been hurt and he hasn’t been good for them. Jaylen Thompson, you you could bring back if you want to turn that void year into an actual contract year and get something out of it, right? And then Kus Campbell, maybe you bring back him as well. He’s still playing well if you feel good about it. But you’re not breaking the bank for any of those guys. So you probably have somewhere between like 15 to 20 million to spend and that’s without, you know, any sort of restructures cuts. Uh James Connor potentially as a cut for them. And then of course I think the elephant in the room is Kyler Murray and before before well before we get into Kyler Murray really quick if they still have a decent amount of money to spend. This is the team that of the the free agents that I think they should go after to me it’s just offensive line. Like just focus on offensive line. Elijah Vera Tucker, if you want to take a chance on him because he got the the unfortunate injury history during his time with the Jets, but he’s a starting caliber offensive lineman. I think you could go get him. Wyatt Teller or Joel Batonio, right? One of those two guys makes sense. Brett Toth has actually been playing really well for the Philadelphia Eagles quite a bit. Yeah, when Jurgens has been out like I think Brett Toast has been really good this year. John Simpson we’ve mentioned before as a potential starting caliber guard. Kade Mazize and Brady Christensen. If either of those guys get out of Carolina, I think those guys could be potential starters for you at guard. Oludo, if you want a backup offensive tackle here, I don’t think he’s starting caliber. Germaine Aluminor, like if you feel like, hey, we just got to kind of get somebody in free agency to be able to play that offensive tackle spot. Alumin Trevor would be at the top for me. Well, I think he’s one of those guys where if the price is right and you feel good about building the rest of the offensive line, yeah, I think that he could that he could be a starter for you. He he’s been really good as a starter for the Giants and he could legitimately play both tackle and guard. I wonder I mean obviously the Giants need to retain him, but that’s not the combo right now on this show. The combo is projected free agents. Aluminor would be my number one signing for the Cardinals. Okay, so those are the offensive linemen that I have there uh to potentially think about here. Now, let’s get to Kyler Murray. Let’s talk about Kyler Murray. So, I was reading this article from Over the Cap and here’s some information uh on Kyler. Um, Kyler Murray salary cap in 2026 will be around 53 million. That’s the ninth highest number in the NFL. Murray salary in 2026 is 42.5 million of which 36.8 8 is already fully guaranteed because he has uh like certain dates like roster I don’t know if it’s technically a roster bonus but like on the fifth day of the new league year the next year of his contract becomes fully guaranteed or or mostly guaranteed or whatever it is. So next year 36.8 million is already fully guaranteed. His salary is the 11th highest amongst quarterbacks in the NFL. If he’s on the roster in the fifth day of the new league year he will earn $3.0 owe a million dollars um of his nine guaranteed salary for 2026 and also earn the $19.5 million salary which will be guaranteed for then 2027 because I remember if this happens in 2026 it means the 2027 salary uh becomes fully guaranteed. So that fifth day trigger for this contract would be the deadline for the Cardinals to either release or potentially trade Murray. If the team releases Murray from his contract, they will take on $54.7 million in dead cap money in 2026 and a loss of about $1.5 million in overall cap room cuz remember like that’s just the dead cap they would take on, but he also had like what you would have been paying him anyway. So, the difference would have been an extra million and a half that would be on the cap in the red. Uh the Cardinals don’t really have salary cap issues, so that is certainly a possible outcome. The post June 1 designation doesn’t really change the cap. Um, it only defers 7.2 million onto 2027. So, it doesn’t really change too much. You can’t cut him. You can cut him. It’s just a lot of money in one year for a player to not be playing for you. Remember the diff if they cut him, the difference in what is on their books is just $1.5 million. They’re paying an extra $1.5 million, but then you will have to go get a quarterback somewhere else. So, you can’t you can cut him. You’re just paying a lot on the cap this next season for him to not play on a lot. Right. Right. If they release him next March, get this. So, if they release him next March, the Cardinals would pay 36.8 million cash and 54.7 million on the cap. If they kept him, see this is the negative here, Connor. If they keep him for next year and he fails and they want to move on from him in 2027, then they would pay him 20 or $62 million in cash and have $80 million on the cap because of the way the contract is. So, it is it is kind of now you know what or get off the pot. Correct. Oh boy. And then the last paragraph here is the best solution for the Cardinal would be to trade him, which would only cost them 17.9 million on the cap total. But the contract numbers make that tricky. As mentioned above, Murray’s salary for the next season would be the 11th highest in the NFL, and no one would consider him anywhere near a top 10 NFL player right now. Yeah. So, these people saying, you know, hey, the Cardinals will will probably trade him. Who’s the other side of that? You do they not think about that? That’s you can’t There’s no force trade button in real life. So you’d have to totally rework the deal. You would you would totally have to rework the deal, I think, in the form of you would have to trade him and take on dead money. you would have to pay part of his contract, which again, the Cardinals can do part of that because they have the money to do it. The question just then becomes, what do you get back in return? So, you might be sending a pick with them. You potentially, depending on how much money you’re taking, like they could they could take 30 million of that themselves and not really feel it that much because again, he’s on their books anyways. If you’re comparing it to he’s going to be like whatever it is like 50s some million on our books no matter what whether he’s here whether we cut him or whether we trade him like whatever you can go up in the money that you would pay off of his contract for him to go play elsewhere. So you can do that. It’s just a matter of does another team like Kyler enough for that to be the case because if if you’re getting anything back in return, I don’t know if it’s more than like a third or a fourth round pick, you know? Oh, I I don’t think it I don’t think it’ll be a day two pick. I think it could be if you can convince a team that Kyler is still and and they’re kicking in they’re making him really cheap for that team. potentially. Yes, potentially. Yes. So, yeah. So, here’s the So, here’s the the teams that sort of come to my mind, right? The Raiders potentially would be an option, but we just did fix your franchise and they have their own issues with Gino. So, unless you are trading Gino for Kyler Murray and you’re probably at that point you’re probably getting like it’s it’s probably like Gino and a third. I I have no idea. I’m just throwing this out there. I’m just kind of like maybe where the conversation starts. It’s like Gino and a pick for Kyler. So, if you’re okay with getting Gino Smith back for next year, that’s an option. Miami with Tua. If you want to trade Tua for Kyler and at this point, you’d be getting a pick with Tua depending on how much money you’d be taking from Kyler’s contract. That’s an interesting swap. It’d have to work out. The Steelers don’t have anything. So if the Steelers think that Kyler allows them to continue to be in a winning window, do what they do, right? Basically, yeah. Do what they do. Um Arthur Smith and Kyler Murray. That’s the That’s I’ll pay to watch. The Falcons are very interesting because PennX now it’s a long-term injury because you could potentially trade Penn for Kyler and you could essentially say, “Hey, you take the risk on Michael Penn, we’ll take the contract risk on Kyler Murray.” And I don’t know what I don’t know how much, you know, money or contracts would be here and there, but like that’s the one that I think intrigues me the most is the Falcons. I never thought of that. That’s fascinating. A lot of the chat, probably mostly to push my buttons, but also half seriously, is saying the Jets, right? And I mean this not in a snarky way, but I think a lot of people don’t realize the Jets next year are most likely paying both Aaron Rodgers and Justin Fields a combined 56 million to not play for them. I don’t think the Jets want to absorb more quarterback money. Yeah. and the the the man I don’t know how I don’t know how they get out of skirt deal at all though for the Falcons. Maybe they just don’t they haven’t found a way yet. Well, I guess you could cut him and it’d be a crap ton of dead money, but you would save money on the cap. So, it would basically just be blank flexing. Trevor is another risk and I’m assuming the answer is yes. That for the team that trades for Kyler Yeah. and I see the chats like whoa they didn’t realize my Jets point about the all the money they’re carrying next year with Rogers and Fields. They have a lot of cap space but that doesn’t mean they want their whole quarter their whole cap to be quarterback contracts. Right. Trevor, my question is and I’m assuming the answer is yes. If the team that trades for Kyler Yeah. that Arizona makes it a little easy for them financially in 2026. But if Kyler gets hurt on that team, does it screw that team for 2027? I would think yes, which is going to completely kill his it’s going to hurt his market cuz he does get hurt. Yeah. I don’t know. I actually don’t know the injury accelerators of Kyler Murray’s contract. This is a very convoluted, cloudy situation. It is. It is. I think they’ll pull it off because this just happens in the NFL. I think so, too. I agree with you. He’s going somewhere. It’s going to be very complicated because I just don’t know. I was talking with with Dalton about this earlier because funny enough like he was kind of like talking about the Jets side of things and he agrees. He’s like, I I don’t think the Jets are going to do it. I think it’s a low hanging fruit. Like people go, “Oh, the Jets like right.” But I just I don’t think that they’re going to do it. It’s not a good fit. But what was he saying? Um, oh, he was saying at that point like why why don’t why don’t you think teams are just going to wait for Kyler to get cut because then they can just do whatever contract they want with him again. What happened with Russell Wilson? Again, maybe. But it just depends how the NFL looks at Kyler Murray. Like, are there three teams that legit go, “Yeah, we can win with Kyler Murray.” Cuz if so, you’ll probably work with the the the Cardinals to make it happen. So you get to keep him instead of like having to bid with other teams for his services potentially. But some people in the chat are bringing up the Vikings. I saw a lot of that and it’s very interesting. Yeah. I mean like if JJ McCarthy continues to play as bad as he is because guys I want to be clear. I’m not trying to be overly harsh about this. JJ McCarthy is the worst quarterback in the NFL right now. He’s on a Zack Wilsonish trajectory at the moment. at the moment. I mean, the Browns quarterback situations and the Jets quarterback situations are not very good, but like JJ is also like not like he’s he’s a reason why the Vikings aren’t winning right now. Yeah. Um yeah, I think that they will look into other quarterback options this off season. Yep, they absolutely will. This would be a huge swing for them though. I think I I think the Falcons are more realistic even with Kurt Cousins contract. I I just wonder about the the scare of 2027 because I think the Falcons really they are believing in Penn long term, but they now need an answer for next year. I think that’s a really really good point by you that I did not think of is makes the trade harder. It makes the trade harder if he gets hurt. How much are they on the hook? Just like always. And I don’t I don’t think there’s an injury designation because it doesn’t sound like there’s an injury designation with his contract right now with him being hurt. It’s just the fifth day of the new league year. Like that’s the only date that matters. So, well, we we should mock draft one with him and one without him. Okay. All right. I like it. since we didn’t we didn’t actually land on a destination because we explained how complicated this is. But it’s still the point is we think there’s a chance they get it done and if they do what would their draft look like? If they don’t, what would their draft look like? Somebody saying the Saints the Saints No, no, no. The Saints need to stop doing this. This is This is like you have a friend that has really bad habits and you drive to his house and encourage the bad habits. That’s not All right, let’s pull up the Let’s pull up the mock trap simulator. Let’s uh so so I I I don’t think the I don’t think the Cardinals are going to be too active because I think that they are really talented team and let’s say let’s say they bring back Kas Campbell. So like I think the defense is is is good. Let’s say y’all the FR hold is still there. Isaiah Adams is still there. I want Jonah Williams is not going to be. And do do you do you want to operate as if they’re signing Germaine Aluminor or do you think that the the Giants let him out? I mean, I think it’s the Giants would love to keep him, but the way he’s played this year, he’s going to get a massive deal. And fix your franchisees are very fun if nobody’s a free agent. So, that’s it’s also very sorry like Giants fans, I you probably hope you keep him. I hope you keep him. But in this exercise, believe it or not, a player gets to the market and Okay. And the Cardinals back up the the bag here. Okay. All right. So, let’s let’s let’s do that. Let’s get into uh they have their tackles then. Paris and Germaine Aluminor are their tackles. Yep. And you’ve got y’all the F hole. You have Isaiah Adams if you want, but um let’s let’s get into this as my draft. Where are the Cardinals picking right now? They’re currently picking ninth. Okay. Okay. So, who just went? Who just went in the mock? We got any quarterbacks in the board? No, I think they’re all gone, right? Fernando Mendoza is gone. Uh Ty Simpson is gone. Dante Moore is here. I’m starting to think that Dante Moore is going to be in this class. I I’m telling you, the winds have changed. The wins. There’s a chance is the point. So, you’re telling me there’s a chance? And I think with the Cardinals sitting here at number nine, there’s a realistic possibility that they are indeed getting a young new quarterback here on this team. I think we should do this is the mock that we should do. Kyler is is traded or cut and we’ll take more. Let’s do let’s do this one and let’s take Dante Moore here. I feel like that’s a I feel like that’s one of the most accurate quarterbacks in all of college football. Somebody who’s having a really good year. Somebody who just even as a firstear starter really understands how to go through progressions and and and play like a pro. I mean, there’s still I think there’s a little bit of arm limitations with him, but man, how he times things up, the touch passes that he has, how pinpoint accurate he could be. He’s having a hell of a year. And so, I think that we should do this mock draft of the two that we’re doing with Dante Moore here for the Cardinals. And the beauty of this, they signed Britt to a two-year deal. So, if Dante Moore is not ready, and he’s a 20-year-old player that could put on some pounds and maybe needs some time, Brousette can be your bridge until Moore is ready, like the Giants did with Jackson Dart. Yeah. Okay, let’s do it. Let’s Let’s take uh let’s take more here. Um 41. Let’s see. Linebacker. I mean, this is this could be a great spot potentially for a linebacker like CJ Allen from from Georgia is here. I think that he could be excellent for them. Um, that’s my vote for sure. I mean, we’ve we if we wait a little bit, you know, round three, you could take a guy like like Jacob Rodriguez, like Torian York, uh, from Texas A&M. Jacob Rodriguez is playing so well for Texas Tech right now. He’s getting Heisman trophy love. He’s, you know, I think I saw Lefco doing that and I loved it. Loved it. I don’t think it’s going to happen, but No, no, no. No, he’s not really on the board right now of the betting markets, but he’s an he is an amazing player that deserves that kind of hype. You know what I actually really love here is uh I I love Austin Seravel to be honest with you because I think he’s having a hell of a year at offensive tackle for Ohio State and some people don’t believe he’s got the the arm length to be able to tackle but he but he’s a great guard and he’s a then he’s like a swing tackle for you. Like if Aluminor doesn’t work out, you know, he’s an excellent guard for you that can that gives you tackle flexibility. I don’t think Ohio State Ohio State went into camp this year with that all those competitions on their offensive line after Onian transferred there and didn’t even win a job. Yeah, Seville’s been amazing at tackle, but yes, his skill set and traits transition to guard. I love the call out, Trevor. Cards need a guard. He’s played high level football for the best team in the country this year. I would take either him or CJ Allen. I think they’re both needs for the team. Yeah, CJ Allen from Georgia is having a really good year, especially as a run defender. Um, Caleb is is is great. Keith Abney potentially if you wanted a corner. I don’t think they need wide receiver enough to consider, you know, like Chris Basil or or Brazil or Jacobe Lane or guys like that. People are saying like Jeremy Bernard. I think they got a Jeremy Bernard at home in uh in in Michael Wilson. Like I think they’re kind of the same player. I really do. Not that you can’t have too many good wide receivers, but um I I I I don’t think that they need German Bernard here with this luxury pick. Let’s take if you’re good with Saraved from Ohio State, uh, let’s draft him here at 41. And we got one more pick here. Yep. Let’s do that. Okay. Now, I think now is a really good time for linebacker. Like I I I really want to see Oh, Rodriguez made it. Yes. Yeah. Like Rodriguez Weeks. I would say I for them I would take Rodriguez. I would too. Jake Gold has also been great. I like to watch him. Yeah. Cincinnati has a lot of guys this year if they Hey, remember the Stockwatch episode. Great chin to neck ratio on Jake Gald who head shot crazy. You see the run defense grade, the coverage grade. Uh he’s also got some decent pass rush chops to him or at least he’s got the long arms to I’m open to this. So I’m open to this. I don’t hate Jake Gald. I think we should go Jacob Rodriguez because I think he’s the more true inside linebacker type of player. Yeah. Um, but I think any of these guys in Whit Weeks, Jake and Jacob Rodriguez, I think round three feels like the sweet spot for the for the Cardinals here when it comes to linebacker. So, uh, we got some people wanting double dip O line. Fun draft, man. Could I mean, we could could what what’s the O lineman that we have here? Just to just to see. Oh, man. I I think I think Carter Smith would also be awesome for this team. Chase Bantis I think would be great. Man, now you’re giving me ideas for the next. But the nice thing is a lot of these guys you could probably still get in the fourth round. Maybe Carter Smith you might be able to. It depends on I I see him more as an interior player. I think you’d be a hell of a be honest with you. I I don’t know if uh I don’t know if if the NFL Davis also a college tackle that will play guard. That’ll play guard. Monroe Freeling is somebody who I like from from Georgia. No, let’s go. Oh, let’s go linebacker here. I think they they need an impact player there. Let’s go Jacob Rodriguez and then let’s see on this uh second try of a mock draft uh what we’re doing here. So, so okay. So, um Dante Moore, Austin Saravel, Jacob Rodriguez there for our first mock and that is with us moving on from Kyler Murray. You know, either trading, somebody’s trading for him or they’re just gonna straight move on from him and cut him, which we feel like is the more realistic scenario. So, let’s uh let’s open it up and do one more round here. Now, this is the version if they keep Kyler. If they keep Kyler. Let’s see. So, no quarterback cuz they’ll have Kyler and Burcett on the roster again. Yep. And look at that. Uh Dante Moore went off the board anyway. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Ty Simpson, Fernando Mendoza. This is perfect. Yeah, because Dante Moore, all three of those guys off the board. Ruben Bane Jr., Arville Ree off the board. Caleb DS off the board. Jeremiah Love off the board. Mai Lemon off the board. Let’s see. Well, I took Sony Styles at 10 in our last mock, so Lord knows I’ll do it again. No, I I I I wouldn’t do that here um for the Cardinals, even though I think that they they could use him. If you’re going to draft Sony Styles, you’re probably going to trade down. Um what do you think, Connor? any leaning here with the guys who are available. They they still need wide receiver even with what they have. I think I would just take Tyson because he’s the best player, man. So, you have him and Michael Wilson if you need to figure out like are you going to extend him or not because he’s a free agent after next season. Yeah, I guess that’s if you’re stuck with Kyler, you got to make sure. But this is the problem here. There’s no nobody’s coming up for this unless they Oh, somebody could come up for Tyson. I take that back. Yeah, they could. Can we trade out of this? Yeah. You want to trade back here? Yeah. Let’s have Who’s coming up for Tyson? The Kansas City Chiefs. Time for Brett Beach to actually be aggressive. Yeah. Or the Steelers. Yeah, I guess. I just I never understand. Okay. All right. Let’s trade back here. Let’s go. Let’s go 15 to nine. I I I don’t Are we getting the second? I don’t I don’t think we’re getting the second here. That doesn’t feel like a big jump, but it is for Tyson. Let’s see what the Let’s see what the the chat’s saying. Connor confirmed Chiefs fan. Alfredo Cino for Collins. That’s good. Um Dr. Spangle saying I’d go FO here. So 15-9 is the equivalent of about a late second rounder. So I don’t think you’re getting a second from V then. I think you’re getting the third and like a like a fifth or something. No, it’d be more than that. It would be a third and a fourth. Okay. All right. We’ll take Chicago’s fourth then. Yeah. All right. Let’s try Let’s try this then. Let’s let’s trade back here. Um cuz now I’m probably taking I’m probably taking Spencer Fo or Francis Mau him or Mauing Noah and I’ I’d fine with and once again let’s remind like Aluminor can play both positions. Yeah. So you are you can play FO at tackle or you could play Mauingo at guard. Yeah. Let’s go let’s go Utah offensive tackle Spencer Fono. I I know he had a rough go versus the Texas Tech guys, but Yeah, but we got to like stop just holding on to that one game all the time. Oh, well, it’s tough because like that’s the competition. You know what I’m saying? No, it it matters a lot, but I also don’t want Spencer Fano to be like a UDFA because he he wasn’t perfect against Tech. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um Okay, now CJ Allen is here. We could go with him. Yeah. See, now we kind of do what we were going to do last time where you I would take Allen cuz we have our our line is looking a lot better. Okay, let’s take Allen. But we do need somebody in the middle of the field that’s just a total wrecking ball against the run. Okay, let’s do it. Let’s take CJ Allen, the linebacker and two threes here. Um, I love seeing Big Citrus hanging out. I actually don’t hate Big Citrus to be honest with you. Dvin’s not very young. He’s not. No, he’s not. and he’s been okay and you and they have Kus Campbell but who’s very old. I I I kind of like kind of like Dominique Goring here. I kind of like Dominic Goring and then ah man Skyler Bell. I saw Skyler Bell and I got so excited bro. I just got caught up on his film man. He’s great. The young man can run some routes. Skyler Bell is quite good at the game. Yeah, he really is. I kind of And that’s your number three in this scenario. So, you got Marv, Michael Wilson, and Skyler Bell. I like it. I like where we’re going. So, we have two picks, right? We have two picks here. Yeah. So, we already took CJ Allen. Okay. We could take Skyler Bell with one of these picks. And then what was the other one? Scroll. Citrus. Oh, Big Citrus. So, I would Big Citrus is going to make it to us in the next pick. I don’t think so. So, I would say either Big Citrus or do you want to double dip on guard because I really like Chase Bantis from Texas A&M. I think he’s got sc starting caliber ability. I really do. I’m not opposed to that. Then we just completely renovated the offensive line. Yeah. Either him or Carter Smith to be honest, but I like Basantis. I I think he could be fantastic. Okay. Okay. Let’s take Let’s take uh Well, just because the MDS and I know the MDS, let’s take Skyler Bell first because he’s probably got a better chance of getting picked. So then he’s Yeah. your wide receiver three. You feel pretty damn good about that. Pix just made it. Damn. Nah, we we I I don’t think we I don’t think we we need him. I mean, it’s it’s a good process having him get in there with the veterans and be ready, but it’s hard. Let’s take a look. Hold on. Hold on. I think you got to take Big Citrus at 79. Defensive tackle. They got uh Dvin Tomlinson, Kas Campbell, who might not even be back. You do have Walter Nolan, but he was hurt at the beginning of the season. Such a different player, right? Like you need that big I think you might have to take two gapping. Yeah, let’s take big C. Let’s take this a great draft by the way. Yeah, I like this. I like this as well. I really like this as well. I mean, look at that. Yeah, look at that. Straight back, you get Spencer Fano, CJ. Allen, Skyler Bell, and Dominique Orange, aka Big Citrus. We also had D, who was it? Dante Moore, uh, Saraheld. Awesome. Sarah, and, um, and, and Jacob Rodriguez. Holy cow. This is the toughest, this is the toughest decision. Well, we got a lot of new names into this one, which was a lot of fun. Like, we haven’t taken those guys in other drafts. Yeah. Wow. Okay. All right. Um, Conor’s got Conor’s got to run. I think Conor’s got to run because he’s got he’s got something to do at at 60:05. So, uh, we got to we got to get out of here. There we go. We fixed the Arizona Cardinals. Let us know which mockdraft you guys like best, what you think about the Cardinals overall, some of your head coaching candidates, all that great stuff. Let us know, of course, in the comments section. We would love for you to do that. If you want to follow the show, NFL Show on Twitter, on Instagram, on Tik Tok. If you want to follow us at Tampa Bay Trey, Conor J. Rogers, that’s the best way to do that. Let us know which franchise you want us to fix next. Connor, anything else before we get out of here? No, Cardinals was a good exercise. The drafts are very different. We love doing the multiple paths now on fix your franchise. Uh, shout out to two more super chats. Mahal, I want a president who won’t pardon a stupid turkey. And Hannibal 9503, fire Ganon into Tarteus. Hell is not enough. I didn’t I shouldn’t have these. Oh man. Maybe the tuxedos were actually now now they’re kind of the snake. Mike Z 1998. Hey Connor, as a fellow Jets fan, if they trade for Kyler, do we just walk off into the wilderness, never to be seen again? Also, Arman, Arman, Meu, Meu, good super chat. Nice. Love that. Hey, you know what we’ll do? Conor’s got to run. He’s got something to do, but I’m going to wrap this up and then I’m going to go through some of the super chats that you guys have here. So, you could stay uh I think and and and we’ll uh and we’ll we’ll make that happen. So, appreciate everybody watching another episode of NFL Stock Exchange. We love you guys so much. for Tyler Cook behind the glass for Connor Rogers. I’m Trevor Sigma saying thank you once again for watching and we will see you guys for Stockwatch. That’s right, it’s back folks. Coming to you on Wednesday before Thanksgiving. See you guys then.

Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers break out the excavator and demolition gear to dig into the Arizona Cardinals. They recap all the moves they’ve made in recent years, identify the key players, discuss Trading Kyler Murray, build a free agency plan with specific targets, and give you a 3-Round Mock Draft.

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0:18:47 Cardinals History
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24 comments
  1. The first draft was honestly awful. Second draft was about as good as it gets. As for the team breakdown, can tell its early in the process. JG isnt the issue here. Our OC is pathetically bad at his job regardless of whos at QB. There is a world where we keep JG and hire a competent OC. Kyler also definitely has trade value. Plenty of teams need QB and this QB draft class is abysmal. Teams like Minnesota, Pittsburgh, and the Jets do make sense to make a move for K1

  2. Bruce Arians was the last time they were good so I think they need to look for that kind of hire. Vic Fangio. Maybe go to TB, their OC is great, get someone from the Bruce Arians tree. Brain Flores in Arizona could also work very well. They aren't afraid to look at College coaches either. Ryan Day? Lane Kiffin? Shotty saw some Ben Johnson post game and is adding some of the stuff I think. Player for a Brother who passed is a Real thing. 12th man. Bienemy I'm getting to see with Ben Johnson and this guy should have been a Head Coach. I wouldn't go an offensive guy.3x in a row. Flores I think would be a good hire as well if you get him an OC. It's not the Jets or Browns so

  3. Love the episode as always fellas, Cardinals fan here. I think one of my big needs for the offense is speed. There is basically no one on the team who has 4.3 or even sub 4.4 speed to take the top off of a defense, and it has definitely been somewhat limiting for MHJ having to be the defacto receiver to do that in the current offensive scheme. Their fastest player is Trey Benson and 5’9” Greg Dortch. I loved both drafts, I will say though that idk if the Cards would trade back if Tyson was there at 9, especially since that’s the scenario where you keep Kyler and he basically has to work for Monti to keep a job. Also, DT is easily the deepest position on the team at this point, as they also have Bilal Nichols and Justin Jones under contract for another year or two each. Otherwise, love all the picks. For me on Tyson, Connor you brought it up on the beginning and it kind of fell by the wayside, this team doesn’t have many difference making stars. Tyson has that potential, whether Marv gets there or not. Plus the home town factor of playing at ASU would make him a fan favorite immediately.

  4. NFLSE "Legion of Whom. – Adubs365" shirts in the Cardinals red and yellow would be undefeated. Adubs365 should be quoted, just out of respect, and there's "no way" the addicts could get sued by the Cardinals for using a red shirt and yellow letters. 😂

  5. When is the Bills pimp your franchise? I can help. Step 1. Fire the HC, DC, OC, GM, and everyone else in the front office. Step 2. Trade JA so he can get the fuck out of that god forsaken town.

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