Tyler Shough Under Pressure? | Is This New Orleans Saints WORST OFFENSE EVER?!?

Sean Salsbury is with us as he is every Tuesday on Twitter. Seanun unfiltered. Make sure you get him at Unpaved there on YouTube as well. Subscribe to the channel. Um Sean Tyler Shuck made his third start. Saints manage just three points. Uh man, they are a bad football team. How do we even know Sean with a such a bad offensive line and no weapons? How do we even grade or gauge or rate what he’s doing out there? Well, you better be an expert at at gauging bad stuff and how how it would look if it somehow it was different player, different situation, different grouping. Matt, it’s it’s it’s hard to evaluate this team. We we talk about it all the time about moving forward at the quarterback position and any other position of how do you evaluate it? I guess the number one way is how do you perform and how do you keep playing when you know things are not good and your chances are very minimal each week. Uh how do you pra and the truth is Matty we see the result on Sunday but during the practice week as a coach you can probably get an idea of some guys I don’t know who’s checked out or who hasn’t but you probably get an idea of where where more people’s head is if you’re paying attention. So hard to evaluate, but just like it’s probably pretty hard to evaluate if you got a great team and you’re kicking butt every day. How do you evaluate? Well, what’s going to happen when we go through adversity? Well, at least the one thing you know, your team’s faced it. I mean, think about this. It’s it’s the the comedic part of this. You can’t get a hand off. Ball lays on the ground. You don’t make any big plays. Although the quarterback goes what, 30, a 44, 43. So, the ball didn’t hit the ground much. um your field goal kicker can’t get it through inside of 50 a couple times. You get in the red zone area like three times and come up empty. You don’t score a an offensive touchdown. You I mean you start to look a bunch you give up a bunch of sacks. You don’t run it well. You don’t throw it well. Um a lot of sideways stuff in conservative football which is kind of without the weapons. I guess the positive is a lav, you know, has a bunch of catches um and comes out of it positive, but and Atlanta’s not exactly gang busters. They’ll play some pretty good defense, which they did, but they were on a losing streak and Cousins, you know, had a little vintage Cousins on some of those on the big play to Mooney and the rest of it. But I I I personally it’s it’s hard but I don’t know what you can gather from them other than you know I know the fans are frustrated booing at home and the rest of it but we’re we’re we’re about as close to the eights as we’ve been in a long time on of a bag over year. You really are. That’s about as close been since State did it on a regular basis. I understand the frustration and it’s been a rough year football-wise in the state of Louisiana, but uh I the evaluation’s hard, but Shook’s playing well enough to to to finish it out. And when I say well enough, you’re not winning, but when you go 30 or 43, it at least tells you there’s some accuracy on a defense that’s pressuring you. And maybe that’s how you evaluate. Are you still st the quarterback? I’d want to know, are you still standing in there and delivering the football when you get hit in the mouth? Are you still standing in there and competing and doing those things when you know when you lay the ball on the ground and you got to make sure you don’t when it’s an exchange between you and the back? Are you still competing after you’ve taken them down to the red zone and can’t get it in the end zone? So like that that’s the way who and I hate to use the term who’s still giving effort and fighting because that’s your job and you get paid to do it. I don’t give you extra credit even if you’re getting your butt kick. That’s on you. You’re the player. You’re getting your butt kicked and the coaching staff. I I’m not giving you extra credit for showing up to class or for playing hard because you’re going to collect your two-week check or your weekly check for 75, 100, 300 grand a week. So, I don’t give credit for that. The bottom line is they’re bad football team who does not execute well. And when they do, they’ll they’ll compete for a minute, but they can’t sustain four quarters of football for the most part on either side, specifically on offense. And that’s why it’s going to end like it started. Not very good. How do you think they match? They go to Miami this week. It’s interesting, Sean, because when they they played well against Carolina and won. And so you look and you go, “Well, they got Atlanta’s a three- win team, and they get Miami and the Jets and the Titans, and they get Carolina at home, and you go, man, if they play well there there might be a few wins they could snag out there. It’s still the NFL.” How do you think the Saints match up against the four- seven Dolphins who who aren’t any good in their own right, right? Uh, I can tell you this, if you’ll just punch them in the face, I mean, you know, be physical with them, that team doesn’t like that. The the the, you know, when they beat Buffalo and had that good game and they’ve had a couple of them. They’re, if you’re looking at finesse in the dictionary, team speed with finesse that you put makeup on them and boy, they cover up some blemishes. You take it off, you you’re frightened to death because you see it and it looks like a, you know, Shrek just woke up out of sleep the next morning. that that that’s that’s who Miami is. But if you’re looking for a pillow fight, that’s where the Saints can get them. They are. Now, when they’re going good finesse-wise and two is throwing on time and you’re not hitting him, you know, boom, they’ll be hitting flat routes and boom, they’ll be bang post on time. Get them off schedule and force them to get into a a body blow fight. That that that team’s as soft as is as as charmin wet char. They just are. So, that gives you hope. And we talked about it a couple weeks ago, Matty, where listen, it is the NFL. We see strange stuff happen all the time. Or how did this team How do you explain explain the Buffalo Bills to me? You can’t. Okay, once again, Josh Allen plays great, you win. If Josh Allen plays average or doesn’t, the Houston Texans curb stomp them in their building. It’s the way it works. So, um, yeah, you can beat Miami, but don’t finesse. If you get into a finesse match with them, they they’ll score 40 on you. No, they’ll they will lap you because that’s who they are. They don’t want to get into a fist fight. They want to stick and move and get the ball out on time and let their speed get into space and go that keep him out of space. Keep them third and long and make two take two hitches. The the the he’s one of those quarterbacks that his s the significance of his game falls off because he’s physically limited when you have to do that. You saw Brock Perie last night who I have nothing but respect for. I think he’s a hell of a player. But you saw him when he wasn’t on time and anticipation when he held the ball a little too long and then he wasn’t accurate because he felt desperate. What happens? three picks and if you’re not throwing it on time and you don’t have a Matt Stafford arm, then you better be able to throw it in the small windows. If you’ve made a mistake, you can’t compound it by being late and inaccurate. So, with them, they want to throw on time. They want to get the ball into space, they want to go. But if you’re looking for a a physical fist fight and now New Orleans going, if you’ll take that to them, you’ll challenge them more than anything. You want to win 1613. I know it’s not pretty to fans, but that’ll be a win. If this game’s in the 30s, yeah, you know, where Miamiy’s up there, that means that they’re in rhythm and they’re doing it all. They’re they’re an odd team with some talent. The sum isn’t very good, but they practice exactly like they play or play like they practice. I’m sure they are finesse and if you if you like I said, if you can get them in a they like to play seven on seven. If you force them not to play in space and have to play in a in a phone booth, the New Orleans Saints can beat them because I my my Miami’s physicality is almost laughable. Last thing for you, Sean. The uh I want to ask your thoughts on evaluating Kell Moore and the thought being here as a play caller. They’re they had 10 snaps in in the in a goal to go situation and Taesm Hill took five of them and Tyler Shuck didn’t throw a pass. So, there’s this whole thing like shouldn’t you be developing your young play? just if you would give me your sense. I mean, I I don’t suspect that you’ve watched every single play call and snap and analyzed every snap that the Saints have taken, but just your thought on on Kell Moore, the the offensive quote unquote guru, uh, and and how he’s done this year as a rookie head coach. And and I’ve I haven’t watched them all, but I’ve probably seen what, 80% 75 to 80 up until three weeks ago. I’ve watched the majority of them. So, pretty good feel for what he does. Listen, I think at times coordinators that are head coaches or that were coordinators and then got head coaching jobs, listen, it’s a lot easier to be the coordinator in Philadelphia or when Dak Prescott’s your quarterback in Dallas and you got wide receivers and you can run it and the offensive line and then you go to Philly and you’re going to win a Super Bowl and your roster on both sides of the ball is loaded. You could be really really good and you become a genius in a hurry. Not saying that he’s not a good coach, but you become awfully dumb. And I don’t mean it literally. When you don’t have you don’t have good players, then you start grabbing and you start getting too cute. Listen, I I understand the respect for Taesm Hill. I’m at the point in the season that I I got to see more about my football team and quite frankly, Taesm Hill snaps in the red zone to get me within a touchdown or so really aren’t doing me any good in my evaluation. I think a lot of times then you start you do get too cute and then you start grabbing because you know you’re overmatched. So what do you do? Okay, let’s formation this. Let’s try to oid do him. You’re not oid doing anybody by putting Taesm Hill in a back taken snaps. We’ve seen the movie. Here’s the difference. Taesm Hill also becomes very average when you can’t block for him or you’re playing in long yarded situations. And if you can’t block for your quarterback, how do you expect him to bail you out? He’s a hell of a talent and a hell of a tough guy. But I want to maximize what I’m getting out of my quarterback. I got to the red zone. Let me see if he can finish for me. Is he going to hold the ball too long? Is he going to distribute it to Taesm Hill out of the back field? However you do it, I think what happens is you start like a quarterback that’s late, Maddie. He’s the the the coach gets desperate. And you’re a quarterback and an offensive guru when you got good players. I don’t know any offensive guru that when you’re getting your butt kicked, we refer to him like, “Oh, they threw for 380.” But if you’re getting beat, nobody cares about your guruism. They care about can you win or lose. And I understand where he’s at and he’s going to get a hall pass. It’s his first year. I get it. And because we got to see him when he’s actually got a chance weekly, but this is also a chance for him to while he’s evaluating to also evaluate himself and and self, you know, the selfch check of all right, I got down to the red zone. I let my guy work us down to the red zone. Let me see him finish. I I want to know what kind of closer he is. And then if we’re at third and one and we want to go wildcat or stick it to Taesm Hill as a quarterback slash, you know, Swiss Army knife, then then we’ll we’ll do it. But that’s a lot of stamps for a team. It you can tell they’re going gimmick when they’re doing that at this stage of the game because I can assure you this. While I know when Drew Brees was there, they did it. And I’m not pairing comparing Breeze to Tyler, but they mixed it in. You’re not giving Taesm Hill five straight snaps when you got Drew Brees on the side. You’re just not the red zone. You may change it up and it’s a it’s a change up pitch. the change up pitch can’t be putting the quarterback back in as opposed to the kind of a quarterback who’s really not a quarterback who we force to be a quarterback at times and now we’re trying to make plays at this stage of the season. Listen, I’m not saying you quit on your team. Hell, you got six more games to go or whatever. But I am going to play hard with the guys I got. And that’s going to be part of the evaluation process by them to Kellen Moore and his selfch check on okay, how good am I when I don’t have Jaylen Herz handing it to Saquon Barkley and Lane Johnson and that group blocking for me when they’re all healthy and then I got a defense that’ll get 60 sacks and give me the ball into short field. They happen to do everything the hard way and I understand why you reach if you’re Kell Moore, but leave the quarterback in other than a play or two to do it. And let’s see if we can go salvage some rhythm from a guy that we got to find out what the hell we’re going to do next April. He is Sean Salsbury. Get him on Twitter at Seanunfiltered. Subscribe there on YouTube as well. Hey man, we always appreciate the time. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, man. Thanks for making it work this week. Happy Thanksgiving, brother. And good luck with this decision. Hopefully we’ll know Friday. Sounds like forward to talking to you. Thanks, man. We appreciate it. 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Matt Moscona breaks down the New Orleans Saints’ ongoing offensive struggles with Sean Salisbury, analyzing Tyler Shough’s third start in a disaster of a game that produced just three points against Atlanta. With an offensive line that can’t protect, limited weapons, and questionable play-calling, the Saints are facing serious challenges. Salisbury and Moscona discuss how to evaluate Shough under pressure, the role of Taysom Hill in the red zone, and whether this team can even sustain success for four quarters. From Miami matchups to the bigger picture of this roster, this video dives deep into the Saints’ struggles and what fans should expect moving forward.

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9 comments
  1. Sad part is off season development why not put him on beast mode work out ….u already in era where u got to be similar or better then drew breeze …cuz city n timing i still believe loomis need to get fired and Benson needs step down …the team ain't been same since new Orleans pelicans and im big fan of both …die hard from mobile Ala

  2. Miami's gadget plays are going to be too much, #4 for the Saints in trouble + #1 bad eyes..we dont have an offensive coordinator that can keep up with the dolphins creativity to score points. This hurts to say this but I think Miami is going to embarrass us

  3. Miami may not be the most physical team but Achane is a weapon and Gordon is a solid power back. It's their passing game that is finesse.

  4. It’s not the QB’s fault. Those black helmets are cursed. The only way the Saints get better is to dump them in the swamp, burn or delete all images and video, then never speak of them again.

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