CREATIVITY: New Orleans Saints’ Chris Olave & Alvin Kamara May Be OUT | INNOVATION Is Essential

CREATIVITY: New Orleans Saints’ Chris Olave & Alvin Kamara May Be OUT | INNOVATION Is Essential

The New Orleans Saints short-handed offense may be forced to be more creative on Sunday against the Miami Dolphins. [Music] You are Locked On Saints, your daily New Orleans Saints podcast, part of the Locked On podcast network, your team every day. Oh, what is good Hudet Asian and Hudet family? I am your host, your friend Ross Jackson, New Orleans native, your New Orleans Saints expert and credentialed member of the media covering those New Orleans Saints as a Saints beat writer over at louisianaapasports.net. On today’s episode of Locked on Saints, how creativity could be the solution for the Saints in the red zone. The Saints defense is really looking good from a per pressure basis when it comes to sacks. But we’ll break down why Miami is going to present a big-time challenge there. And we’re going to kick everything off with the biggest story around New Orleans. Chris Olive, New Orleans Saints wide receiver and running back Alvin Chimera, both trending in the wrong direction. Why creativity will have to be the solution there as well. We got all that and a little bit of land for you on today’s episode. We appreciate you whether it’s your first time or your next time being here with us this time making us your first listen and being an everydayer here on the show, which is a proud part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. Today’s episode brought to you by our friends over at FanDuel, where right now new customers can bet just $5. And if that first $5 bet wins, you’ll get $300 in bonus bets used across the app. Just head over to fanduel.com to get started. On Thursday, the New Orleans Saints held practice. We were out there at practice. I’m actually still at the Saints facility right now as I’ve got gumbo on the stove at home getting ready for Thanksgiving dinner and happy Thanksgiving to you everybody. I know it’s probably a day late for you, but uh we were out there watching practice and there was no Alvin Camra, there was no Crystal A. And then as usual for Thursdays, there was no uh Devon Godshaw as well, but that’s normal because the Saints practice a lot of third down stuff on Thursdays and that is not usually a place where Devon God sees a lot of snaps at least. So he typically gets those Thursdays off. But the big headline here is Olive and or rather are Olive and Chimera trending in the wrong direction for New Orleans as they both manage their injuries. Now, um, Alvin Camra was brought down on what looked to be a hip drop tackle, and that caused a knee injury, which is compounded, I’m sure, by the ankle injury that he was already dealing with that’s had him questionable for the past couple of weeks. Meanwhile, Chris Ave left the field early on Wednesday’s practice with a back injury. We asked Kell Moore, New Orleans Saints head coach, whether or not he returned to practice. He did not give a clear answer in terms of that, which seems to indicate that he probably didn’t, especially with it being a little bit of a lighter day, those Wednesday kind of walkthroughs and things like that. No real reason to rush him back out on the field there. So, that would make perfect sense. But for New Orleans, if they don’t have Chris Alab, if they don’t have Alvin Chimera, they’ve traded away Rasheed Shahid, uh, Brandon Cooks and the Saints mutually parted ways. They’ve they’re potentially down to maybe three starters on the offensive line. So far, we’ve seen good things from Tali Fuanga, who has not really been uh somebody that’s been trending in the wrong direction here recently. He’s been trending in the right direction here recently, but lots of weapons down for this New Orleans Saints team, and that’s going to mean that they’re going to have to continue to find ways to get more creative. It’s not to say that they haven’t been doing creative things, but creativity is certainly going to be the solution here. Finding creative ways to get the ball in the hands of guys like Devon Vele and Mason Typton. finding creative ways to utilize your tight ends all the way down to Taesm Hill as well. Finding creative ways to get your quarterback on the move. These are all going to be things that the Saints are going to have to be thinking about going into this game in order to really be able to counteract some what I’ll call potential losses for right now. Just to be very clear at this point, at the time that you’re watching this, Alvin Chimera, Chris Ave probably not ruled out yet. We’ll see later on today when we get to uh Saints practice on Friday what we see there and if maybe one of them makes it back to the field and things could be trending in the right right direction pretty quickly. But as of right now things not headed in the right way uh for those players. So what are some of the things that you’d like to see from this team? Well, a big part of it is going to come down to its run game. And there’s a good matchup for the Saints on that area. Miami is the 29th ranked run defense right now. They’re not great on a per carry basis, allowing almost five yards per carry, sitting at 4.9 so far. And so finding ways to be able to win with the ground game is going to be vital for New Orleans. But doing that without Alvin Chimera is just that much more challenging. Not impossible, but that much more challenging. And so you’re looking at guys like rookie rookie running back Deon Neil, who’s also managing an injury, but everything seems fine there. as well as Audrey Gest who will likely be active going into this game and ideally Evan Hall being active as well who they signed up to the active roster from the practice squad. If Alvin Chimera is unable to go, everything goes down to those guys and so having between the tackles rushers like Devin Neil as well as Audrey Esté, having a big-time physical presence like Audrey Estay might be able to help this team in the red zone. Something we’ll look at a little bit later on today’s show. And then also the ability to be able to utilize Deon Neil in those one-cut scenarios to where he can get moving towards the outside, burst up field, and then see what he’s able to create. I think those are some of the things that you’re wanting to see from this team. We saw Devin Neil really impressed, particularly with the ball in his hands as a pass catcher on Sunday up against the Atlanta Falcons after Alvin Chimera had to leave the game with that knee injury. And we saw a lot of those swing passes going to the outside to where he got the ball in space, was able to stick his foot in the ground and get north and south very quickly. That is the Devin Neil game plan. That’s the way to utilize him. That’s the way to kind of take advantage of his superpower as Kell Moore, Brandon Staley, and this coaching staff would say is put him in those situations, let him stick his foot in the dirt and then get downfield as quickly as possible, get moving that way. He likes contact. He wants to do all those things. So, just finding ways to get them involved there. Evan Hall seems to be a pretty good route runner out of the back field as well as a good hands catcher too. So utilizing him and getting him mixed in could be an option. But we haven’t seen the Saints really get the third running back on game days very involved. Maybe that changes here this week. But certainly a lot of this is going to come down to Deon Neil and Audrey Esté if Alvin is unable to go. As for the passing game, some of it’s going to have to be the wide receivers stepping up. Devon Vele, Mason Tipton, finding ways to get the ball into the hands of those guys. Even being able to use Mason Tipton as a rusher every now and then could be something that they can do to continue to mix in and take advantage of that weak Miami Dolphins rushing defense. If they can find ways to get him, you know, the ball in his hands out of the back field or, you know, jet sweeps, things like that, even little shovel passes off that jet sweep motion. Those are things that creativity will allow you to be able to take advantage of. And then you look at the passing game and the receiving game. Those guys obviously needing to be able to contribute there. So we’ll get to see what Devon Veil looks like potentially as a, you know, focal point in the passing offense. But it doesn’t stop at the wide receiver position. How do you get the ball into the hands of Jawan Johnson, who’s the fourth leading receiver amongst all tight ends and is well on his way right now to setting careerh highs in receptions as well as receiving yards. already a career-high by one in terms of targets just 12 weeks into this season. So, finding ways to get him more involved, Foster Marorrow, and then of course the usage of Taesm Hill, which is going to have to be selective. That’s where maybe a little bit of the creativity could potentially backfire for you. Do you end up finding ways to get Taesm Hill involved in ways that actually maximize what it is that he does, or are you kind of pigeonholed a little bit in terms of what it is that he can do and what the defense is expecting? And so, do you need to go away from that? And then lastly, utilizing Taesm Hill in the run game against a weak run defense might not be the worst situation or might not be the worst option for this offense as well. So, the Saints still have the recipe to be able to go out there and get it done. The the question will be, do they have the execution and do they have the talent that will be able to convert that execution into production? It’s going to be a very fascinating kind of class or or or opportunity to watch and learn how Kell Moore deals with this kind of adversity. He talked a lot about adversity coming in as a New Orleans Saints head coach, drafting players that have been through adversity, putting a lot of stock in that. Well, here is Kell Moore facing adversity. How does he take advantage of it? How does he circumvent it? And in some ways, how do you utilize it to a strength for your team? One of the things that we talked about in yesterday’s episode with Kyle Krabs, host of Locked on Dolphins during our um during our crossover is that once Tyreek Hill went down for the season, the Miami Dolphins were forced to be more diverse on offense and were forced to be more creative on offense. And so far that has helped them out quite a bit. Can the Saints turn this negative into a building block moment, a foundational building block moment to where you can give guys like Chris Ave and Alvin Kamar a little bit of a rest and then figure out what you’ve got in some of these younger guys. The Saints are not in a competition standpoint here right now to where they’re going out there always, you know, and and people are always looking at them to go out there and win a football game. Would they love to win football games? 100%. Absolutely. Of course. But this is about evaluating your talent, getting a look at some of this young talent, especially when it’s not ideally super serious in terms of what the injuries are that are keeping some of the other guys off the field. That’s a good situation for New Orleans at least to be able to be in. So, that’s what they’ll be looking to take advantage of up against Miami. But over on the defensive side, it’s all about getting pressure on to a tongue of Vioa. But that’s not going to be a simple task. I’ll tell you why here as we continue on with today’s episode of Locked on Saints, part of Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. Today’s episode of Locked On Saints is brought to you by friends over at FanDuel. The NBA is back and there’s no better place to get in on all of that action than with FanDuel, the official sports betting partner of the NBA. I’ve been taking advantage of a lot of Derek Queen player props here as he continues to impress here in New Orleans. Whether you’re taking him for points, rebounds, assists, even in some cases picking the over under, you can pull it all together in a same game parlay as well. There’s a ton of stuff that you can get in on over at FanDuel. 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So, let’s take a look at where the Saints have made their improvements and then we’ll take a look at why the Dolphins present such an interesting challenge. So, I went crazy on True Media uh the other day. Our insiders already got some of this information uh from there where I found out you can like make your own stats and all this other stuff. So, I started going insane. We’re about to have a very very fun off season here thanks to True Media. And one of the things that I really dove into was pressure to sack conversion rate. That’s something you can find from a quarterback perspective, but not often something that you’re able to find from a defensive perspective. And so I created sort of this stat to where you compile all of the pressures for teams and then just divide the number of sacks by the number of pressures, you get a percentage, and then you see who has the highest percentage point in the NFL. And so behind just three teams, the New Orleans Saints are tied for the fourth highest pressure to sack conversion rate at 22%. That’s up from last year where the Saints had were a high pressure team but had a lower amount of sacks where they were at 17.4% during that time. Now the Saints right now with only 109 pressures sit from the raw number at the very bottom of the league right now 32nd. But one of the big things that Brandon Staley highlighted on Thursday when we were speaking to him was this sort of situation to where like a lot of the reason why they don’t generate a ton of pressure is because of the fact that they live right now in sort of base defenses based upon what offenses are doing against them. Look back to last week’s game, the loss up against the Atlanta Falcons. The Atlanta Falcons use 13 personnel. That’s one running back and three tight ends. more than any team according to pro uh pro uh not NFL uh pro but uh nextgen stats according to nextgen stats then since 2016 and so for New Orleans when you’re going up against an offense that’s continuously putting two three tight ends out on the field which by the way has been a formula to challenging Brandon Staley’s defense all season so far we’ve seen that in Seattle in Buffalo we saw the San Francisco 49ers do it even without George KD like we see a lot of these teams coming out here and playing multiple tight ends. And you’re going to see it again up against Miami who’s going to use six offensive linemen, multiple tight ends, all that, and multiple running backs. They’re forcing the Saints into base defense situations and forcing them to play the run more than pinning their ears back and coming after the passer on obvious passing downs. But on obvious passing downs when they do get those, Brandon Staley’s subpackage defense, nickel, dime, those types of looks have been pretty sufficient in terms of generating pressure and at a much higher rate than last year where we saw almost sack after almost sack after almost sack. They’ve done a very good job getting to the quarterback and making plays at the quarterback so far this year. In fact, they’re tied for the fourth highest rate and doing that on a per pressure basis. Now, if the Saints were generating pressure at the same amount that they were last year, 141 pressures last year through the first 12 weeks, as opposed to right now, New Orleans at 109 to the first 12 weeks. If you apply that same 22% rate in terms of converting pressures to sacks, Saints would be sitting with 31 sacks on the season so far instead of just 25. And that would make them top 10 in the NFL, tied with the Rams at number nine. For the record though, the Saints are one sack ahead of their pace through the first 12 weeks than they were last year. So last year through the first 12 games they had 24 sacks. This year they’ve got 25 even though they have about 20 what is or really 32 fewer pressures at this point through the season through those first 12 weeks. So, the Saints are just at a higher rate of wrangling the sacks in the back field as opposed to last year where they were struggling to get sacks, but they were getting pressure. Right now, they’re low pressure, high sack. Last year, they were high sack, low pressure. And so, for the Saints, right now, they’re now getting ready to go up against a an offense that gets the ball out of their hands quickly. And that’s what’s going to create some challenge for Brandon Saley’s defense when it comes to not only getting after the quarterback, but making the play when they get there. Right now, when it comes down to uh time to throw, Tuatong Violoa is one of the fastest players in the league in terms of getting the ball out of his hands. And so because of that, that can create some issues to where maybe New Orleans isn’t able to get the pressure quick enough. Or maybe you see plays like the one that Isaiah Stalberg was trying to avoid when he was closing in on Kurt Cousins last week and uh kind of skyed up because he was expecting the quick pass. That’s why he ended up jumping over Kurt Cousins and then having to turn around and go and wrangle him again. Uh so you know even when you’re getting the pressure if the ball’s coming out quick you have to be ready to divert your momentum leap try to get your hands up all those other things. And so Tua is one of the players with the fastest time to throw in the NFL. They do a very good job of getting the ball out of their quarterback’s hands. It has been a big part of kind of the the the identity of Mike McDaniels offenses in Miami so far. or I mean Kyle Krabs was telling us uh in the crossover just yesterday that this team has at what was at one point like getting the ball out something like um uh like 2.22 seconds or something like that. Like that’s absolutely insane. That’s so fast. And so getting that pressure is going to and getting those quick pressures in particular is going to be one of the things that’s going to create kind of the biggest challenge for New Orleans. Right now, uh, Tuango is getting the ball out at 2.58 seconds fastest in the NFL, just beyond or just beyond, excuse me. Um, Aaron Rogers at 2.64 seconds. By the way, for the Saints, Spencer Rattler was at 2.68. And then right now, Tyler Shuck hasn’t had enough passing attempts for Pro Football Focus to uh, excuse me, um, NextGen stats to kind of divvy it out. But once we get there, we’ll see how quickly he’s been getting the ball out as well. But this is a big part of what it is that Miami does. Miami wants to run the football and when they do go to the air, they want to get the ball out of their hands very quickly. So, a lot of it is getting passes out in rhythm, uh, disrupting timing or or or working off of timing, all those things. And so, New Orleans is going to have to find ways to disrupt that timing to knock them off, you know, knock those wide receivers off the spot that is going to be looking to throw to force him over to that next read. Just move him past the first read or not just, but moving him past the first read. I think that ends up having a big opportunity for you to be able to potentially get home and make some plays or at least force Tua Vayoa out of his comfort zone so that he’s not in rhythm and then you need the secondary to go and make the plays on the football at that point. So, that’s going to be a big big piece of what we’ll be watching on Sunday as the Saints defense tries to match up with this quick fast, quick momentum, timing built U Miami Dolphins offense that loves to get the football out of a tongue of Loa’s uh hands. And so, I think that’s going to be a big thing that you’re looking for. So, expect the Saints maybe to be a little bit more aggressive at the line of scrimmage perhaps. That could be one way to do it or at least to be more physical or continue to be physical rather uh and put a big focus on physicality on those wide outs on those that are running routes and trying to bump them off and trying to generate those quick pressures as well to get off on the defensive line is going to be really important on those passing downs and then trying to move tong to a tongue of Ailioa off of his spot so that maybe he doesn’t actually get that clean path to the football that comfortable window to throw through all those other pieces. just move him off of his spot, disrupt the timing of the offense, and then see if you’re able to take advantage of that over on the defensive side. And if they do that, that’s all fine and dandy. But one of the big things the Saints have shown so far is that they struggle when it comes to putting together drives and then capping those drives off in the end zone. And a little bit of creativity here, might go a long way for them as well. Let’s break down what the Saints can do, both from the creative side and maybe something they should just consider lining up and straight up doing throughout this game against Miami. We’ll get to that next as we continue on with today’s episode of Locked on Saints, part of Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. [Music] Let’s get into that nation. The New Orleans Saints have had one of the worst red zone offenses when it comes to scoring touchdowns in any team in the last decade. Right now, they’re 34.5%. is not only last in the NFL right now, but it’s 317th out of the 320 seasons that have been played up to this point over the course of the last 10 years. I’ve been harping on that point quite a bit over the course of the week because I do think that it’s an important piece to look at because if the Saints end up improving that, that’s going to be a big- time rut to get themselves out of. And they might not prove that or improve that here in 2025, but certainly going into 2026 if they’re a better team there, it is a big time improvement in terms of what we’re going to be looking at. So for the Saints going into this game against Miami, you immediately have a chance to find a way to maybe start to improve. The issue is that Miami is one of the best red zone defenses in the NFL. Right now they are on a streak of 04 in terms of red zones not converting for touchdown red zone possessions against them not converting for touchdowns in the last couple of games. But they’ve also only allowed 50% of red zone possessions to be converted for touchdowns. It’s fifth best in the NFL right now with these Thanksgiving games still pending of course at the time that I’m recording this. And so for the Saints, this is a real shot to not only show that you can improve, but show that you can improve against what has been a very good defense limiting the things that you’ve struggled to do, right? And so this is a chance for the Saints and maybe it’s just a little bit of creativity that ends up having to go a long way here. I went there and I watched a lot of the Saints red zone approach over the course of the last like three or four games and a lot of what it’s been is line up and go or it’s been kind of tricky things right the the sprint out by Taesm Hill on the throw uh the passing attempt to Devon that didn’t work out the Philly special approach in was that New England or against New England I think it was where they you know tried to go with Chris Olive throwing a pass and things like that like there were those situations where it’s like, okay, there’s a big difference between getting too create or being creative and being too creative. And so little things like uh you know, read options where you have, you know, a trailing running back with you and an opportunity to be able to have an outlet if you’re not going to be able to make it to the end zone as a running back or as a um as a quarterback, excuse me. Uh running some of these, you know, red zone route combinations. There’s very very popular red zone route combinations out there that we’re seeing across the NFL that kind of cross through the middle and run these sort of meshes but then also like dip out this tight end over to the outside sort of y league kind of stuff. And so finding those areas of the game where you might be able to take advantage of a little bit of the trends around the league and take advantage of the condensed field area that the defense also has to play in. By the way, we talk a lot about the field shrinking for the offense, but the defense has to manage that as well. And so, if you can create some collision points, some conflict defenders and things like that and sort of these condensed areas and then force them to run through traffic and stick with their guys and, you know, cuz you know, they’re going to be in man coverage. So, put them in trail and finding ways to do things like that, I think might end up opening up some of the passing opportunities maybe beyond, you know, outside of the 5 yard line and things like that. But in addition to all the creative things that you can do, one player that I’m really really interested to see in the red zone, particularly inside the five, is Audrey Estame. Audrey Est is a big physical big dude. I’m going to use big twice because it’s true. Um, but he is a physical between the tackles rusher. And so I’m very curious to see if the Saints just at some point line up under center and turn around and hand the ball off to Audrey Estate, give him a little bit of a running start in a single back formation, maybe even a lead blocker with Taesm Hill and then just see if you can power your way into the end zone and just line up and be bigger and better than the guys that are across from you. You can get creative and you can get flowery and but you run the risk sometimes of getting too cute like the Philly specials, like the sprint out with with Taesm Hill, all those other pieces and finding ways to sometimes just line up and say, you know what, we’re going to come out here and just be more physical than you are. That might be a good way to go, too. And so, I’ll be really interested to see how the Saints approach this. Do they do they call things down so that they risk not getting so creative that they outplay themselves and out game plan themselves? or do they get more creative and try to strike the balance of not out game planning themselves but out game planning their opponent? I’m very very interested to see how the Saints manage this, how Kell Moore goes about this as well because I do think that this is one of the games that can tell us a lot about Kell Moore. I mentioned earlier the adversity factor in all of this, right? We talk about players facing adversity, but when you have the amount of injuries on the offensive side that the Saints are now all of a sudden dealing with and now they’re having in practice injuries that could potentially cost, you know, star player availability go going into the weekend. That’s it. That’s some ad, you know, uh I was adversary, but that’s some adversity for the coach as well and for the coaching staff, the game plan, all those other pieces. And so finding ways to be able to take advantage of the talent that you do have and scheme things up I think is going to be big. This is a chance this game for me going to Miami is a chance for Kell Moore to kind of flex the muscle. And the muscle of course being the brain. Can you come out here and outsmart opponents when you’re down physically on the players that you have available and the talent that you have available that you can put out on the football field? Can you come out there and outsmart opponents? And Anthony Weaver, the defensive coordinator for Miami, he’s not an easy guy to outsmart. That’s a guy that wants to change the picture on you post snap, that wants to go too high and force you to run the football. And you’re going to have to find creative ways to do that as well, uh, up against a defense that’s going to be expecting you to run against them because they’re weak against the run. That always kind of goes, you know, that’s a two-way street as well. And so, uh, finding these sort of creative ways to go out there and maybe scheme something up that opens up opportunities that haven’t been there so far this year. And being able to take advantage of those on a timing basis is all great, but also in some cases, you just need to go out there and be bigger and better than the other guys. And can you go out there and do that? I think we learn a lot about Kell Moore in this game. Nothing final, right? There’s no finality for anything having to do with next season coming out of the 2025 season. uh when it comes to coaching staff and decisions and all those other things. But I do think that like there’s a lot to learn and Kell Moore did a great job highlighting that like he wants to see his players go out there and lead. Here’s an opportunity for you to do that against a team uh that should have some uh cracks in the foundation for you to take advantage of. All righty, fam. We’ll see you on the squad show after the game on Sunday. We appreciate you very much as always making us a part of your day part of your routine for saying yes to me and the show. As always, if you see me, please say hi. And if you need anything else on your New Orleans states in between these episodes, make sure you follow me on your favorite social media, Rossjackson Nol. Hit me up. They’re not a families doing them or how you living. Let me know how you moming them. And trust that Nation, I’ll holl at you. And of course, happy Thanksgiving. [Music]

Faced with key injuries to Chris Olave and Alvin Kamara, the New Orleans Saints must unleash their creativity against the Miami Dolphins’ stout red zone defense.

With a depleted offense and several starters sidelined, all eyes turn to rookie running back Devin Neal and young back Audric Estime, tight end Juwan Johnson, and versatile playmaker Taysom Hill. The Saints’ ability to innovate in the red zone and establish a ground game could prove pivotal, especially against Miami’s 29th-ranked run defense.

On the other side of the ball, the Saints’ pass rush faces a unique test against Tua Tagovailoa, who leads the NFL in quick-release throws.

0:00 — Saints Offense Injuries & Creativity
10:53 — Saints Defense: Pressure vs. Dolphins Offense
19:26 — Red Zone Woes & Solutions

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