Can TODAY’s OKC Thunder EVEN COMPETE with the 2017 Warriors & is Hartenstein better than Draymond

Can TODAY’s OKC Thunder EVEN COMPETE with the 2017 Warriors & is Hartenstein better than Draymond

If I’m OKC, I don’t want to see Minnesota early. Why not? They play the OKC. I don’t want to see care less who I see. I’m OKC. I don’t care who I see. Yeah. What you talking about? You see them boys and a healthy OKC team. They don’t care who you want to see the Nuggets in the first round. If you’re OKC, who it is? That’s crazy. Cuz if I want to see Nuggets, I want I know I go ahead and beat them. I’m straight all the way through. Exactly. I want to get some tuneup games in. Make sure we play off ready. You know, AJ Mitchell’s not playoff tested. Y’all quit. Y’all got to really slow the [ __ ] down a little bit. Why? Y’all got to stop. Why got to slow down? They won a championship. They defending champs. They are the defending champs. Why got the record is right now? They 20 and one, right? That’s what the clutch baskets. He was four for five. They 20 and one, Theo, why we got to slow down? Who’s the last team that was 20 and one? They’re good, bro. They’re good basketball. They’re not a great They’re not great. They’re really good basketball team. They not a great basketball team. I give them that. They’re a great basketball team, but y’all are acting like, “Bro, we already said a a team that like ain’t [ __ ] you can do with them is Steph, Katie, Clay, that Warriors team. They are not that they are not that indestructible. They They’re You telling me they’re guaranteed to win it if they’re healthy?” No, he’s right. They’re not as talented as they’re they are guaranteed to win a championship if they’re healthy. They not they are not as talented as that team, but they damn show more together. They damn show more team and to me that’s way more that’s way more way more dangerous in the playoffs in the playoff series. You got to see Steph Curry on at the top of the key and then Kevin Durant and Klay Thompson on the wings. Are you crazy? Stop right now. And Andre Egodala. I get it. They look defense. Stop stop throwing Andre Ekadala name out there like he Kevin Durant of them. Stop. I’m I get tired of you doing that. He is MVP. I’m get tired of you. I’m keep tired of that. No disrespect to Andre, but you throwing Andre Eadala name out there like he [ __ ] like you said Steph Clay KD and then Andre and Kadala like stop. What do you mean? You got to see Andre too, bro. That that whole team was elite. I’m not saying he wasn’t elite, but you going to sit here and disrespect OKC. You want me to start naming names over there, too? That’s what you just did. Who do chat versus Andre? Who? Chat and Andre. The same chat. Exactly. That’s their That’s their fourth player. No, that’s their Cad Chad is their third best player. Andre is their fourth best. Draymond Green might be their fourth best player on that team. Okay. So, who’s matching up with Steph? Shay. Who’s matching with KD? Come on, bro. You sit here talking about matchups offensively. If those team play against each other, that [ __ ] OKC team is a better defensive team. Fact. I don’t care what you say. That’s a fact. OKC is a better defensive team. I don’t know. They’re not a better defensive team, Theo. Yes, they are, Ray. Wow. You going to compare having Steph Clay? No, I do like Andreadala, but he’s sitting here talking about Andre Icodala on the level with Steph and KD. Iggy is elite, bro. No, I love Katie. I love Iggy. Iggy same age as me. That was no shot. Hey, Andre Icodala. So this, let me let y’all know this chat. That was no shot at Andre Icodala. I [ __ ] with Andre Gadala. But I’m having a real conversation right now. When you start talking about KD and Steph and then you throw Andre Gadala in there. Let’s just stop right there. But I but I did say and then Andre Gdala. Like there’s levels to this [ __ ] Wait a minute. So I could go to OKC team, too. But it’s not as talented as you can’t just throw Hornstein in there like he’s a [ __ ] bonafide guy. Double guy. Hernstein is just So you rather dude we’re going to put Hornstein on igot dollar type of level. No. So let’s stop. What are we talking about? You trying to You’re saying you’re saying Iggy like it’s Iggy. We’re talking about Hardenstein. I didn’t say that. Hold up. But Hearstein ain’t got nothing to do with this conversation. Yeah. I don’t know where Hearstein came. We’re talking We’re talking about if we go down the list, we got Steph Shay. Okay. Okay. Clay Jub. Okay. Who’s messing with Katie? KD and Lou Dor. That’s not a conversation. That’s not a conversation about who Lord is going to guard the [ __ ] out of him though. And then Draymond is going to guard him though. KD is going to do his thing. We know that he’s cooking Lou. He’s cooking Lou. Draymond and Harstein are not the same level. Hell yeah. Hell no. Not in that system. Not in that system. Comes to rebound and what they do for the team. Hold on. I’m not saying they’re in the same a talking about within the game of basketball. We’re not talking about careers here. We talking about they play against each other. What is Draymond going to do that’s better than No, no, no, no. Ray, I can’t I can’t let that I’m with Ray. I can’t let CV. I can’t let y’all do that to Dre. No, I’m not. I already said that about Dre. I’m putting him on the same level as Draymond when it comes after. But if they playing in the game, Haren is going to rebound just like Draymond is going to rebound. No, Haren plays just as well as does in the OK [ __ ] all the way down. No, he’s not. Shutting what? Shutting what down? What? So, how how did how did Hurstein don’t do nothing? And his float game. He’s just shoot. He’s just rebounding floers. Double double game. He’s not putting up He’s not putting on no buckets. Him and Draymond. Draymond is locking Hornstein the [ __ ] up. Are we kidding? Are we kidding? Are you kidding me? 257. But Hearnstein is not trying to get no buckets. That’s what we trying to get on the stage. Hearnstein’s not getting buckets. So, what do we That’s like Draymond. It’s like so you want your anchor to be Harrison just did a rebound. You want your your anchor to be Hstein or Draymond? Matter of fact, Haren’s better offensively than Draymond. No, he got a better floater. I’ll give him that. But [ __ ] didn’t Harin had like 30 something this year? Did he have a 30-point game? I had a 30-point game. I’m not even going that far with it. All I’m saying is we could put those two teams and it would be a [ __ ] game. Y’all making it seem like it’s not even close. So you think you going to tell me there’s a big difference? I’m sure a good game. You keep talking about 10. Hold up. There’s a big difference between Arstein and Draymond Green. Yes. In 2017. [ __ ] the 2017. 2025. No, bro. We’re talking about the 2017 Warriors, not the 25. I’m talking about 2025, right? I just did You see Draymond last night? He was 0 for nine. Hell no. He can’t [ __ ] do that [ __ ] now. He had He looked like some [ __ ] We’re talking about Pete Draymond, bro. Okay. We’re talking about We’re talking about the 2017 Warriors versus I know what you’re talking about. I know what y’all talking about. So, listen. I’m just throwing a train about right now. [ __ ] confused here. They say this even close. Like, put that team together and play against this team. No one’s [ __ ] with that 20 guys. Oh my god, bro. Y’all are killing. So, this this 2025 team’s [ __ ] with the Bulls. So, hold on. Let me ask [ __ ] with the Bulls because you said this the 2017 Warriors would at least give the Bulls a match up. This 2025 team’s giving the Bulls a match up. I don’t recall. Oh, look at Yeah, I don’t recall. No, no, they’re not, bro. They are not. What’s the difference between this team playing against Kevin? I don’t think neither one of them can beat the Chicago Bulls. How about that? I did say that. I said go to say Mike G. Exactly. You was on Golden State and now and now you’re saying Golden State can’t beat this OKC team. I didn’t say that. I’m just I didn’t even say that. I’m saying I don’t think it’s close either. Close. That’s crazy. A 2017 Draymond versus a 2020. I’m picking Harstein. Why? Because Har, Matter of fact, compare the stats. Compare the stats. Pull up the stats. Pull up the stats. Why are we acting like his impact is only in the stats, bro? That’s what I’m trying to tell you. And Hearstein isn’t Hearstein do not [ __ ] score. He rebounds the ball. He set good screens and he get them extra player. Exactly. Is Draymond a role player? Who’s a better role player than a Hall of Fame? Who’s a better role player? Hornstein or [ __ ] Draymond? Draymond is that’s what we talking about is it would not be close. It’s not It’s not close. It’s not going to be It’s They saying it’s not going to be close. It’s going to be close. In the playoffs, it’s all about talent. We know. Hold on. Hold on. I’m not 2025 or or Draymond. I’m still rolling with Draymond. I’m saying But what I’m saying is they saying this [ __ ] [ __ ] out of here, bro. They saying it’s not close though. That’s what’s that’s what’s bugging me. What up everybody? We are getting straight to the Baja. We are super excited to announce that we have officially partnered with Koshi. Koshi is the largest predictive market in the US. Koshi is rocking with the Baja. So, make sure you go support us by using promo code Baja. New users get a $10 credit when you deposit $100 or more. It’s available in all 50 states. Keep it simple and easy. You’re trading. It’s similar to stocks. You’re not playing against the house. It’s yes or no against your peers on events. And it’s not just sports. You have music, culture, and politics and a lot more. And my favorite thing about Koshi is that you can cash out at any time. So if you traded on the Kings and you’re up in the fourth and you can cash out if you think the Kings are about to trick off the lead. And predictive markets are here. It’s a great way to make some extra bread on events. Trade with Koshi today and support the Baja family and use promo code Baja. New users get $10 credit if you deposit $100 or more. Let’s get straight to it. It’s not. But why is not even close? The best team we ever seen. You can’t [ __ ] with that team, bro. Injuries are the only team to [ __ ] with. The team we talking about Draymond and Harstein. That conversation is not even very I’m not even I’m done having that conversation with you. Why? Because you’re not rolling. No, because that’s it’s just silly. We look silly talking about it, T. I don’t know. We look silly. We look silly having a conversation. Sh wanted OKC, didn’t he? Huh? Exactly. All right. Hold up. All right. We look silly having a conversation between Draymond and Arnstein. We look goofy. No, we don’t look goofy. We look stupid. No. No. It’s not close. We don’t. It is close to mine. It’s not close, guys. say that this OKC team is to this ain’t close ain’t close to this this this Golden State team is crazy to me. Okay. So, let me ask y’all this. I got you guys on the stats. So, when LaMelo when Lonzo Ball when Lonzo Ball played with the Chicago Bulls and they was like 20 and three, you was going to put them in the pedestal to beat the beat the Warriors because they had a very good record. OKC defending champs. C. Can I give you the stats so we can That’s the difference. So, let me ask you this. Let me ask you, let me ask you this. No, before you say these stats. Last year when they was in game seven with Denver, who had Denver? Damn near all of us except for probably him. I wasn’t believing in OKC. He didn’t believe. I’m the only one who believe and I still believe because them [ __ ] is 20 and one right now. And I converted. They going through the legal. And I converted. I converted. They think he’s a religion. I converted. You converted because of injuries beginning of the year. Who was my finals predictions MVP? I mean uh champ he did say okay. He’s been consistent with that. I converted. Ray convinced me in my eyes. I saw what they gave away. I don’t know how y’all got them so unbeatable like that. That 2017 was insane. Y saw it. Theo I didn’t say unbeatable. I didn’t say they would actually beat that Golden State team, but y’all two are saying it’s not close. That is diabolical. Wow. It’s not close. Wow. This wild crazy, bro. Not close. That’s crazy. But you know what’s crazy? Who’s going to be Did they win the championship? I personally think I personally think that not the [ __ ] when LeBron came back. They came back 2016. Does Iggy Does Iggy make it a little bit more tough on Shay for sure. No, he’s not stopping him. The only mismatch. So Lou Dort don’t make it tough on nobody. Not Not on KD. No. Alice Kuso don’t make it tough on nobody. I’m gonna I’m This is This is why Aluso make it tough. I’m gonna tell you what. Now, if you throw Alex Caruso in there, we win him for sure. Sean Livingston is better than Alex Caruso. See, now you add names that you don’t need defensively. Sean Living is better than Alex Caruso. Defensively, defensively. Sean, I don’t give a damn if he was. Hold on. Now you got wild. It’s a little bit more close. Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. Let’s talk about it. Let’s talk about it. You guys are acting like the Warriors play is ball like everybody else. The Warriors move the ball so well. How? Who’s guarding Kevin Durant? Lower your voice. That’s why they were unguarded. That’s why I raised my voice. Raise your voice. That’s why they were unguarded. Because it’s not like we saw what happened. They didn’t play iso ball. OKC got a [ __ ] roster of 12 dudes that they can throw in. I don’t give a [ __ ] We forgot to talk about these. I want to put the camera. I don’t give a flying [ __ ] who they got over there. They have a [ __ ] cheat code because that team moved the bro. They had a [ __ ] clip of them going like this. You’re good. You created advantage and you got three guys as in Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, and Kevin Durant pointing at each other. Pick your point. Switch the logo over. There’s no mis message on on that defense. They can switch. OKC can switch. They can switch one through five. They can. I’m not. Nobody in the world can [ __ ] gar Kevin five with Hornstein. I’m barbecue chicken in that [ __ ] All right, that’s cool. That’s cool. Barbecue. That’s cool. You think that’s cool? That’s the problem. Then we go to the other end. What we think? What you think OKC going to be? They going to find a mismatch on that end. You can find a mismatch. That’s what Cleveland did. Who Who they went at? And guess what? Who did Cleveland go at? Cleveland got what? What was the series? Boy, Cleveland won two. Who was the series? Don’t do that. Cleveland won two. Hey be does OKC beat that Cleveland team with Braun and Kyrie. Yo, hold up. No, get the [ __ ] out of here. Say they would beat Go. If they can’t beat Mikey got a great point. Mikey got a great point. The Warriors played like the Pacers but had way more talent than the Pacers that went to them in the seven. Heard you. I heard you. How’s it close? Not close. They’re gonna have to put some respect on OKC. They’re a good team. They are a great team. I’ll give them that. They’re a great team. They’re saying that it ain’t close is insane. And to say that they’re not going to win. It’s not even close. They run again. They ain’t going to run it back. Y’all really don’t think they gonna run it back. So, you ready for the stats, by the way? But, uh, Draymond Green, J. So, Dre averaged 10. Broken hand, eight boards, seven assists, led the league in steals with two steals a game, and had 1.5 blocks a game. Okay. Heard you. Happy for you. Isaiah had 12. He averaged 11 boards, one assist, one steal, and two blocks. Draymond has more stats. All right. You’re a numbers guy. I’m more powerful. Play it. Play it. He’s a numbers guy. He sounds stupid right now. Otherwise, he averaged 12 and 11. He averaged 12 and 11. As a role player, he averaged 12 and I was better than 10, eight, and seven. 10, and seven. I’m so confused. 10, eight, and seven. I’m confused, too, Charlie. 10, eight, and seven, led the league in steals. I’m so confused. How’s 10, eight, and seven not more than uh more than 11 and 12 and and two? How How’s that not more? Hold on. Hold on. You do not You don’t get 11 and 12 a night from Hurst on this team. Y’all are [ __ ] crazy. Hearstein averaged more points. [ __ ] conversation with Hong, man. Average more rebounds. Yes. Okay. So, now we going to steals. So, he averaged two more points. Wait, he’s averaged more points. So, we give it a Hearstein. Two more points. So, it’s two zero right now. Draymond. Now, steals. Draymond got more steals. Okay. 2-1 blocks. Who got more blocks? Hearstein. That’s 3-1. What? We talking about impact. Seven assists to one assist. Let’s add up all the stats. You want to add up all the stats? Draymond got so 3-2. No, let’s add up all the stats. Let’s see who has more stats. Want to add up all the stats. It’s not close. No. Let’s add up all the stats. That’s is beyond me. That’s what we saying. It’s not close. Come on, man. It’s not close. Y’all boys is watching. Okay. Okay. We talking We talking about We talking about two generational guys. Who the [ __ ] the chat thinks? Hold up. Hold on. Put it on the [ __ ] chat. Put in the chat. Start [ __ ] typing. Hold up. Hold up. How many How many points does seven assists eight Eight assists equal to? At least 16, right? He got more assists. Heard you. No. No. How much points How much points [ __ ] Steph Curry on the OKC and see how many How much assist does eight assists How many points is assist equal to at least 16? Probably 20 if you add threes in. Sounds good. So he So he’s respons go by that. All right. So how many offensive rebounds does he average more? How many second possessions that [ __ ] Hearnstein creates pass it pass. That doesn’t mean they shot it though. Heinstein doesn’t get That doesn’t mean they scored every time he gets an offensive rebound. Assist means somebody scored it. My god. Am I wrong? Yep. You’re right. Now he’s just arguing to argue. No, I’m not. Yeah, you are. The fact that you was like, “Yo, he’s not even close. I’m staying on when I’m staying on talking about the Harsty averages more points, more rebounds, more blocks, and somehow is not better than Draymond. It’s not better. They’re not even in the same stratosphere as cars. Is it Is it the same impact? Are you Are you going to go Are you arguing? I can’t argue with you. Are you going to say it’s the same impact? Next conversation. You got it. You won’t. He has to do he has to do so much more to be in the same we you weren’t even talking about Henstein until last year and now he’s in the same strategy as Draymond. The [ __ ] did good in New York. What do we say? He won a championship. He won a championship with who? Last year didn’t win a championship. Raymond has bro I’m so confused. The harsh was on the OK team.

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