Can St. Louis Cardinals FANS Withstand the REBUILD TORNADO that’s About To Hit?

Can St. Louis Cardinals FANS Withstand the REBUILD TORNADO that’s About To Hit?

Cardinal fans have been called the best fans in baseball. Well, we’re going to see how good they are if the team goes into a full rebuild. [Music] You are locked on MLB Crossover, part of the Locked On podcast network, your team every day. Hello baseball fans and welcome to a locked on MLB locked on Cardinals crossover part of the locked on podcast network. The number one sports podcasting network where it’s your team every day. I am the host of Locked on MLB. My name is Paul Francis Sullivan. Please call me Sully. Follow us at Lockdown MLB pods on Twitter, whatever they call it these days, and on Instagram. I’m at Sully Baseball Podcast and Instagram. Get a hold of us here on the YouTubes and make sure you use that hashtag everyday Sully. It helps us find your comments. But I said it’s a crossover. I’m a man of my word and we are not flying solo today. No way. We are bringing in No way. Jose Okendo are we flying solo today. Coming in coming in hot from the middle of America. It’s JD Haffron of Locked on Cardinals. How you doing, buddy? I’m good. We’re trying to uh stay warm here in the Midwest, bro. We’re getting hammered by snow. Uh we’re not prepared for it. Usually January, February is when we get smashed. Here we are. Started December. We’re already uh eight 8 in in St. Louis. Not cool. Wow. Well, just just to give you an idea, we here in Pasadena, California are also going through a living hell. I had to put on a sweatshirt. Uh and it got it got to the low 70s today. And it’s sort of it’s like the Revenant here. You know, it’s at some point you wonder, am I going to have to sleep in a horse? How cold can it get here in Pasadena? I may actually have to wear long sleeves tomorrow. Um, but enough about gloating at the weather here. Um, the St. Cardinals. Uh let’s face it, it’s not been a since losing that uh wild card series to Philadelphia a few years ago where they had the lead in game one. It looked like they were about to just turn it into all right Philadelphia afterthought. They were the last team in and we’re looking really good. And they got the band back together. They got Pooh Holse and all these players back there for one more glorious time. They fell apart in that playoff series and since then, um, the Cardinals have not been really relevant. I mean, they did have a winning season in 2024, but they haven’t been relevant. And they weren’t relevant in 2023 at all. They were actually pretty bad last year. They were the worst kind of team in that they weren’t bad enough that you should blow this up, but they weren’t good enough to get in or even be a factor in an expanded playoff. Um, this is this has been a growing concern for a team that had a marvelous 2010s. Um, tell me your thoughts. Is this team going to rebuild? Is this team going to make a run? You know, try and make a run for it. Um, what’s the what’s this what’s the strategy here? Well, the uh strategy, whether fans are on board or not, is that this is a rebuild. They don’t like using that word. Apparently, that’s a big no no. Uh they use things like runway last year to describe what they were doing. The runway they were giving younger players so they could see what they have uh in house already. But it is a rebuild. Uh the the Sunny Gray trade is something that obviously uh was you don’t do that if you’re trying to win. You don’t trade away your best pitcher. Uh so you wouldn’t do that. Uh Nolan Aronado is on the market as well for a second straight year. Uh Brennan Donovan has been shocked as well. Uh just kind of gauging what the interest in him. Uh it’s not one of those situations where they got to get rid of him or he’s going to be a free agent next year and he’s going to get away for nothing. It’s just like, hey, we’re just trying to get as many pieces as we can at this moment. We know we’re not in a win now window, which is very odd for for Cardinals fans. So, uh but they haven’t been in one, like you said, since 2022. really uh since the debacle that was 23, they’ve kind of had the writing on the wall where like, “All right, this is going down the wrong path and we need to punt. We need to move on from some of these guys.” And unfortunately, it took a little longer than I think some people wanted it to and now we’re here where Nado was still on this roster uh taking up space. Um, but hopefully things like that will will get changed this off season as opposed to last year when Sunny didn’t want to leave and Wilson Contrarus didn’t want to leave and Aronado didn’t want to leave and to trade to Houston. So, uh, things seem to be uh, moving a little more swifter this time around. I think one thing that also I mean I’m not going to speak for Cardinal fans but I do think something that has made these last couple of years really tough to swallow is to see after a you know basically two straight decades where they were pretty consistently a playoff team. They’re up from 2000 to 2009. they were in the playoffs if not every year then almost every year and then of course two thou between 2011 and 2019 they seem to be in the NLCS every year and they want and they picked up a couple titles couple other pennants along the way and so for Cardinal fans up in from basically from the year 2000 to 2022 with a couple of hiccups here and there it was pretty steady of contention. Um, and then you see this decade where, yeah, you had the the wild card loss to Los Angeles and to Philadelphia. They haven’t won a playoff game since losing the since winning the division series against Atlanta. They haven’t won a playoff game. And I don’t I know I don’t have to tell you that. And then you and you see some of the pieces they traded away like a Rosarena wins a Sai Young, Adoleis Garcia wins a, you know, is a playoff hero. Randy Rosena is a playoff hero. All these are Cardinal farm hands and you’re kind of looking like geez, you know, this is not looking great. And and I I’m sorry to I’m I I feel like I’m throwing salt in your wound here, buddy, but the two big honken moves to ensure a dynasty into the 2020s, Aronado and Paul Goldmid has is, you know, a bustinho and and isn’t their fault. It isn’t it isn’t because you know it isn’t because the two of them have stunk but it is you can’t deny the fact that you know what those two players were brought in to keep the glory going and it just it hasn’t happened. Yeah. And that that’s kind of what happened 2022. You have Goldie winning the MVP. You have Nado as a finalist for the MVP. You get Albert chasing 700 and just going nuclear in that second half. And then it all came to a a screeching halt with the uh loss against Philadelphia, which I’m going to call out Connor Thomas who does lock on Phillies because we were texting during that and he was like, “It’s over, man.” This was like seventh inning. He’s like, “It’s over. You guys are going to win this series.” And lo and behold, everything changed in that final inning. Um and then for whatever reason, both Aronado and Goldie fell off a cliff in 2023. Like everything just went, I mean, way south. It wasn’t like a gradual like, uh, you know, they still hit 30. No, it just went boom. And then they’re looking around like, okay, well, who’s our next two pillars that we’re going to we’re going to have, you know, to to to lead the charge here when both of these guys are gone. Uh, and those were supposed to be names like Nolan Gorman and Jordan Walker. And neither of them have panned out. None of their pitching prospects have panned out. And it really kind of got down to what made the Cardinals so good for so long was that they they had a very strong farm system and they were able to complement the pieces they would bring up by making trades for those big names, you know, the Matt Holidays and the Scott Rollins using Yeah. Yeah. Using pieces from the farm system to go get those big names, Jim Edmonds. And then they would kind of they’d lure them in almost and be like, “All right, let let’s lock you up. You had some fun here.” Right. That’s how they they worked it over the years and it just stopped working over the last like three or four years. Uh their their farm system fell way behind in the times. They weren’t producing enough prospects. Nobody wanted to trade anybody to them and it just kind of fell apart and it got to a point where John Mosak who was president of baseball operations, he decided to move on after a long long successful tenure. Although a lot of people uh in St. Lewis are still upset with the man, but he had a really good long successful run with the Cardinals. So, it’s hard to get mad at him for a couple of stinky bad years, but you you mentioned it. The the trades that they made did not pan out. The the move for Marcelo Zunas trading Alcantra and Zack Gallon did not work out. You know, they they made a lot of mistakes along the way and it’s finally caught up to him here in 2025 going into 26. And Tommy Edmond, by the way, there’s another former Cardinal who got who had postseason glory with another team there. Mosa like, you know, he’s he’s like the TV show MASH. He had it was a great run. It probably went on for about three or four years too long. Yeah. Uh but unfortunately, unlike Mash, Mash had a spectacular ending. And um yeah, it might be time to turn the page. When we come back, we’re going to talk about what the best route of turning the page is and why I think the Sunny Gray trade was actually one of those rare trades that may help out two teams. All right, let’s hear from our friends over at FanDuel. You know, JD, I’m telling you, NFL Sundays, they move fast. One big play and suddenly everything feels different. That’s what makes live betting with FanDuel so exciting. You’re not just watching the game, you’re reacting to it in real time. And with FanDuel, you can place bets as the action unfolds. Every drive, every momentum, swing, and every highlight moment. Oh, so good. Live betting is best when the game starts to shift and a receiver gets hot and a defense tightens up or momentum flips after a turnover and FanDuel let you jump in the moment. Live spreads and money lines adjust instantly. player props update as the guys heat up or cool down and you can bet the next touchdown drive results who’s going to get the next safety totals. 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I could do that for college basketball. could do that for there’s we have so many locked we are eventually it’s going to fold into itself and there’s going to be locked on locked on where there’s a podcast with a locked on podcast where they cover the other locked on podcast that will be the ultimate folding over the layer cake we can have okay I’m need to stop immediately I like the sunny gay trade for St. Louis and for Boston. Boston needs another good starting pitcher. They don’t need an ace. They have an ace. They need another pitcher that can go pan the ball to every five games and say, “Give us a shot.” He’s also doesn’t have a lot of years left in this contract. So, it’s not like they signed him to like a 19-year deal. I mean, it’s it’s a short-term move. And the Red Sox are trying to build upon the momentum of finally getting back to the postseason. Um, Richard Fitz played in the majors for the Red Sox. He’s a major league pitcher. You, you know, you’re shedding payroll in a rebuild. You got a young major league pitcher. Brandon Clark is a decent pitching prospect. So, they got a major league pro, you got a major league pitcher and a prospect to put into their system for a guy who’s not part of their long-term plans. So, I think that’s the kind if that’s the kind of move the Cardinals are going to make. If they’re going to start trading away some of their veterans, that is put a major leager on their major league roster and put a decent player in the system, then that’s how you rebuild. And if this is the way they’re going to pull some of these off, because they are going to have to trade Aonado, they are going to probably have to trade Contras. They’re probably going to have to trade Brendan Donovan while he has value. all these different players are going to be sent off. So, uh I I felt good. I felt good about that trade for both teams. What do you think? I agree. Uh we were pretty excited to to see what they were able to get in return. Uh sending $20 million. That was the one thing that was good to see that ownership goes, look, we get it. We got to eat some money here. If we eat a certain amount, we can get better players in return. So they sent 20 million to Boston as well, but they were able to secure, as you mentioned, a major league pitcher who should be ready to go in the rotation for next year on a very thin rotation for the Cardinals right now, but Fitz should slide right in. It should be one of those guys. And then they they are very excited about the upside that Brandon Clark has. Left-hander, triple digits, wicked slider, has some control issues, which uh you know, I’ve had some of the fans that have commented, they’re like, they’re like, “That’s not always such a bad thing.” I mean, we saw, you know, John Krook in the All-Star game turning the helmet. Lefties don’t want to face crazy lefties who have control issues. So, that’s something they’ll work on. He’s 22 years old. Still got plenty of time to uh to to get those things ironed out, which is going to put Heim Bloom’s uh you know, player development task force uh into motion. you know, we’re going to see what they can do with some of these guys and what they can do with them and mold them into hopefully, you know, major league players that impact this roster sooner rather than later. Um, as you mentioned, Aronado, I I don’t know how much they’re going to have to eat of his remaining contract to get much in return. That was the thing is Sunny Gray at least was in demand, right? He still had pretty good seasons with the Cardinals. Natto’s been going in the wrong direction for three straight years and most people have just given up on his bat. the glove still plays, but I I don’t know who’s all interested in uh acquiring that bat the way it’s been the last few years. So, it’s going to be tough. He’s also got the no trade clause, so that limits where where they can send him. But, uh at the end of last year, they they both kind of said it out loud without really saying it that, hey, we’re we’re we’re heading in different directions and what’s best for Aronado and the Cardinals is to split amicably. Uh Wilson Cater still appears to want to stick around. Uh he said he’d listen if there were any deals out there, but he kind of wants to be a part of this rebuild that St. Louis has going on. So whether uh he changes his mind at some point, whether you know he sees other pieces get moved like after Gray, if Bernard Donovan goes, maybe he decides, you know, maybe I I don’t need to be here anymore. But so far, he seems to be a guy that that does want to stick around. And as you mentioned, Bern Donovan, they’re they’re going to see what what people would give up for him. You know, he’s he’s a commodity that can do a lot of things. And uh you know, teams like like the Tommy Edmond trade, teams that are are ready to win and going to compete. They love to have that kind of Swiss Army knife that Brennon Donovan can bring to the table. He’s not expensive. He’s got a couple years more of control. So, there’s a lot of reasons why teams that are going to compete for a championship this year would want to get their hands on him. I think you also see with with a universal DH now to have a player who can play multiple positions. Yeah. And give a regular um a spot in the in the in the roster in the lineup. I mean as a DH I think that’s one of the things that like Maxy why he’s so valuable and Edund for that matter is so valuable with Los Angeles. By the way, I got to correct something here. Um and someone called me out on it. Um, uh, th Thursday is good said, “Did the Dodgers sign Turner? Can’t find any concrete news about it.” Uh, I made a mistake in yesterday’s show. I said that the Dodgers had reacquired Justin Turner. And apparently what had happened, I got the source of my information was a friend of mine who texted me and said, “Turner’s coming back to the Dodgers.” And he texted me that just before my show began. And um, I realized afterwards when I texted him, there was a question mark at the end of his text. coming back to the Dodgers as if to say, “Hey, what about that move?” And I reported it as if it happened. That’s why there is a move that just happened that you were going to uh report. Oh, yes. There is a move that just happened. By the way, I just want to say I know that the Cardinals have In fact, let’s get to that in segment three. But, um, you know, the Cardinals have some pieces. Mason Win is a nice player. You know, I mean, is he a superstar? I don’t know. But, you know, he’s a nice player. You’re hoping Jordan Walker, who didn’t have a good year last year, but you’re hoping he’s a talented player, can turn some things around. You’re hoping Victor Scott II, and if he doesn’t work, you go right to Victor Scott the third. Um, but and of course, the player that I want, you know, I I know he’s not a top prospect, the player I want to become, the next legend in Cardinals history, and that’s Jimmy Krooks because his name is Jimmy Krooks. That is the name. That’s a name of a gangster fil Jimmy Krooks is out there. But see, I mean, I we need I love names like Jimmy Krooks. And you know, he’s a catcher, young catcher. You he only played a handful of games for the team, but I want Jimmy Krooks to succeed because Jimmy Krooks would be in the gas house gang. You know, that would be be alongside Frankie Fr and Pepper Martin and you know, all those guys there. And of course you have Lars Nbar who I mean didn’t have a very good year last year but well I love that name. I absolutely I mean and he’s a fun player too. So of the players are going to stay on the squad um who do you think are the best building blocks and who do you think the best prospects are to to look forward to? Uh well Mason Win kind of took over. I feel like the role that was supposed to be like the new face of the franchise coming up was supposed to be Jordan Walker. He was supposed to be Batman and Mason Wim was going to be Robin. They’re best friends off the field and they were coming up together. And then Jordan Walker has had his issues which he’s working on once again this off season and is hopefully unlocking uh all of that ability that made him a first round pick and one of the the top hitting prospects in baseball just a couple of years ago. But Mason Win has his game has continued to rise. Offensively, he’s still kind of kind of getting up to speed there. uh you know, not great numbers offensively, but he goes out and wins the Gold Glove this year at shortstop. I think he’s a pillar that uh if you’re talking about young guys that you want to eat arbitration years and give an extension to, I feel like Mason Win’s got to be at the top of the list. He’s one of those guys that just uh he just exudes confidence. He’s just very smooth in everything he does, and I think the bat is going to get better as he uh continues his uh his career. Um, the one that stood out last year that nobody really saw coming, but all he’s done is hit throughout his career is Alec Burlson, who nickname, by the way, in case you’re unaware, is Biscuits. So, I think you would love that uh to have a biscuit. Biscuits and Biscuits, Nuke Bar, and Crooks. Try to tell me that’s that’s a private eye show from the 80s. Right. Right. And he’s a fun dude. Like, he is a character as well and keeps everything light in the clubhouse. He’s one of those guys. uh goes out and and wins a Silver Slugger award this year. Uh so he’s somebody that I don’t think they thought was going to be somebody that they can build around, but he all he’s done is succeed every every level that he goes to, whether it was in college, whether it was in the minors where he won a batting title, and now he’s doing it in the major leagues where he took a big uh leap last year where he he always hit righties pretty well and really struggled against lefties, but he turned that around this past year. So, uh, he’s somebody that has also been mentioned in trade talks because, you know, who wouldn’t be interested in somebody like that? But it, from what I’ve heard, it’s going to take a King’s Ransom. They’d have to be blown away by an offer for them to even think about moving Burley. Uh, but those are a couple guys. Uh, JJ Weatherhalt is their top prospect, and that’s kind of the reason why you’re seeing them shop Brennan Donovan and Nolan Gorman is because, and Aronado, they’re moving infielders around because they got to find a lane. They got to find a spot for JJ who had a monster year in the minor leagues last year. His first full season, made it all the way up to Triple A. Mashed there. He’s going to play second or third. One of the two. Whichever one needs a dude is where he’s going to go. Uh comes up as a shortstop. Mason wins there. So, you don’t need to have him play shorts stop. So, second or third, whoever gets traded away, if it’s Donovan and then they could move JJ to third after Aronado’s gone, or they have Gorman, they could play third and JJ goes to whatever it is, they’ll figure it out. But that’s a guy that I think a lot of fans are hoping will be on the opening day roster. If he’s not there opening day, he’s going to be up there whenever that first date is that you can start bringing guys like in April, whatever that that one date is. And uh we’re going to see him in St. Louis in 26 for sure. All right. When we come back, we’re going to talk about a signing that took place that caught me by surprise. All right, quickly, let’s do the trivia question uh from yesterday. It was, what franchise is the only one to never have a home run champion? And notice how I phrase it. What franchise is the only one to ever have a home run champ? Do you know what the answer is, JD? Um, I don’t. Okay. Well, uh, well, you know what? You and Jackson Vanhuser guessed the Angels, but no, they’ve had a home run champion, including Reggie Jackson at one point. Bigies guess the Padres’s. Nope. Nope. They had one recently. And um with uh Jez, what’s Wait, I almost said Machado. Um, no, it was Tatis and um and also they had had um uh Camoniti. Uh a lot of people guess the Nationals Expose. Bryce Harper would like a word with you. Um, but Gavin L. Lulu Luhos 2994 is everyday Sully says the the answer go the Houston trash and that’s correct. There you go. That’s the answer question. Houston’s never had one. Never had one. They they’ve come close. They’ve never had one. Hey, um Devin Williams went to the Yankees last year and had a disastrous season. Uh, so much so I did a whole podcast comparing him to a critical subplot in the film Citizen Cain where Charles Foster Kane kept pushing his wife onto the stage to be a great opera singer even though she didn’t have the talent and Brian Cashman and Aaron Boon kept pushing de Devin Williams onto the mound to be a closer even though he clearly couldn’t handle it. his ERA. He lowered his ERA to 4.79, which means after he had a very good month, he lowered it so he was only letting up more than a run every other inning, which you don’t need as a closer. He obviously did not fit in New York. Obviously, the bright lights of the big city were too much for him. So, naturally, the Mets said, “Give me some of that.” And rewarded him with a three-year deal. I thought he was gonna get a one-year deal from someone saying, “Hey, he had a fluke bad year.” And a team like the Padres’s or a team like the Royals, a smaller market team, would say, “Hey, you get out of the bright lights.” But no, the Mets took one good look at that and said, “For the next three years, that’s our guy.” Um, for a team that spent money like Richard Prior and Brewers millions last year and couldn’t catch the Cincinnati Reds for the final spot in the playoffs. Um what I know I know that uh Sterns who who runs the squad knows him from his Brewers days and probably say ah I know he’s better than that but three years after that year and closers flame out really fast. Uh the hell what do you think of this? I I’m a little confused by it as well. the three years thing with no opt outs, no like security blanket for the Mets to get out of it if they need to or for Devin to get out of it, make more money if he needs to. That’s like unheard of these days, right? Everybody signs multi-year first year opt out. Is that the rule? I thought they had to do it these days the way things are going with the contracts. But, uh, yeah, a bit of a shocker. I I was on board with you as well, thinking that he was going to go to a smaller market team perhaps, someplace a little more cozier, a little more comfortable, and uh to to stick around in New York, man. Uh look at the coonies on Devin Williams, man. He says, “Give me I’ll try it again. Why not? Give me three years of this.” I you know, I think I can’t remember where I predicted he was going to go. I think I predicted he was going to go to like I thought maybe San Diego or I can’t see. I can’t remember. I got to go back to that episode. But my thought process was he’s gonna get a one-year deal because some teams probably say, “Look, he’s not as bad as he was the first half of the season.” So, let’s sign him to a one-year deal so he can prove it. And if it is, I because we’ve seen how fast flo closers can flame out. They I mean, you look at, you know, if you if you have a list of who like the five or six best closers are in any one year, go to five years down the line and do that process again, you’re going to see one or two names show up. The pitchers like I got one for you right here. Ryan Helley last year he was the NL reliever of the year for the Cardinals in 24 last year starts to fade away a little bit goes to New York isn’t a closer anymore and gets shelled for whether he’s tipping pitches or whatever but it happens that quick all the time you’re absolutely correct I mean think about coachar whom I loved when he was a pretty good reliever for Texas and everything he comes to the Red Sox and he is an has one of the great runs becomes a great postseason hero and three years later he’s gone Yeah, you know, it’s like it it really it’s it’s a Rubik’s cube. It happens that fast. Friend of the podcast Shawn Doolittle had, you know, sparked with the A’s and then with an, you know, in 2014, he uh he really arrived as an all-star closer and was a stud for them when they won the world the the nationals, won the World Series five years later. Yep. And and I adore you Dittle, but you know, after that it was pretty much over. And so Williams is one of those pitchers who had a I mean his run he had in Milwaukee was was fantastic and last year he obviously had the grotesque start to the season. Um but uh to think oh I do I think I think we got I think this is three years worth. Um for a franchise that’s trying to show that hey I know we’re going to spend money smart this year. This is a big gamble because I have a feeling he wasn’t getting many three-year deal offers. No, I agree. I I wouldn’t suspect he was either. Like uh again, most of the stuff when it comes to closers shortterm because of how volatile it can be in in that particular role. So, it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to lock people up that long. And um you know, to move on from Edwin Diaz, who we think will sign somewhere else. I saw the report. I think he’s going to LA. I think he’s going to go I predicted he was going to go to LA. I think he and it makes a lot of sense considering how much how many issues they had this year with their bullpen and uh yet they still go on to win a championship. No biggie. Uh but yeah, it’s uh it’s just, you know, when you got all the money in the world and it doesn’t really matter. Uh I guess it’s easy to make those decisions to give out three years. It’s not something the Cardinals are going to be doing anytime soon, Sully. But you know what? It probably shouldn’t. you probably shouldn’t. So anyway, well, look it that one really that one really uh uh I had to do a double take. And this was by the way a day after I said the Dodgers signed Justin Turner. I didn’t want to say though. This was legit. This was I I double I quadruple checked it. Jeff Pass from ESPN and John Haymon of the New York Post both report that. So don’t blame it’s not my friend texting me and I didn’t see there’s no question marks after either. It looks like it’s all real. Oh, there. Oh, there are question marks. There are many, many question marks. All right. Hey, uh, thanks so much for making Locked On MLB and Locked On Cardinals. We’re both part of the Locked On podcast network, which is now the number one sports podcasting network. I’m going to I brought about a trivia question here, one that has a little bit of sarcasm to it, and it’s Cardinal related. So, I think, but don’t answer if you know the the because this is for tomorrow’s audience here. Okay. How did the Cardinals reward superstar and manager Rogers Hornsby when he led the team to their first World Series title in 1926? That’s right. When he was when he led the team to their first ever World Series title as a player manager, how did the team reward him? Put your answers right down here below. JD, tell people where they can listen to your great show. All right. Well, you can find us uh anywhere you get your podcast. Uh l_cardinals is where you can find us on the social medias. You can also follow me at JD Sports Radio on the social medias as well. But uh yeah, we’re we’re all over YouTube. We’re we’re everywhere you get your podcast. Uh Instagram, Tik Tok, all of it. We’re we’re we’re we’re right there with you. If you’re a Cardinals fan and uh you’ve got some interest in what it’s like for Cardinal Nation right now as they struggle through this rebuild, uh we’ve got you covered with all the info. MySpace Friendster are probably on there too. Follow us at lockdown mob pods on Twitter or whatever they’re calling these days and on Instagram. And I’m your pal Simon baseball podcast on Instagram talking about the St. Louis Cardinals doing that unbelievably terrible thing which is rebuilding which is what they probably should do. This has been Oh yeah, sorry. Sorry. We’ll bleep that out later. This has been a locked on MLB. Locked on Cardinals crossover. He’s JD Afron. I am Paul Francis Sullivan. Please call me Sully. I didn’t butcher your last name, did I? I said half. Right. Nailed it. Nailed it. Okay. That’s why that’s why we’re the number one sports podcast. We know each other’s last names. I’m glad it’s not Zebinsky.

St. Louis Cardinals face a turning point, entering a rare full rebuild after decades of playoff contention. Will fans stick by their team as stars like Nolan Arenado and Sonny Gray hit the trade market? Paul Francis Sullivan (Sully) and JD Hafron spotlight the moves shaking up the franchise, including the blockbuster Sonny Gray deal to Boston and open discussions about trading Brendan Donovan.

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3:19 — Cardinals’ Trade/Rebuild Strategy
13:50 — Devin Williams Mets Signing

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