Does A Domantas Sabonis Trade Make Sense For The Bulls?
The trade rumors are heating up around the Chicago Bulls. They’ve been once again mentioned as a team that could pursue demonis at this year’s trade lit deadline. Does that make sense for the Chicago Bulls? We going to talk about it all and more. And Pat, I need you to hit the intro button because my thing froze again. Oh, shoot. Hold on. Uh on today’s locked on bulls. Locked on bulls. You are Locked on Bulls, your daily Chicago Bulls podcast, part of the Locked On podcast network, your team every day. Thank you for tuning in to Locked on Bulls, member of the Locked on Podcast Network, where it’s your team every single day. I use that time with Pat button to refresh my computer. We back in. vast math and designer, host and creator of the Winnie City Breeze and host of the Chicago over ESPN 1000. It’s just gone. Host and creator of Chicago Bulls Central and Chicago Bear Central. Today’s episode is brought to you guys by Game Time. Download the Game Time app, create an account, and use code locked on NBA for $20 off your first purchase. Pat, late last night. No, not late. It wasn’t really, it was more towards the evening. Yeah, Winebach uh pointed out that the Bulls could be a team that’s interested in in Demon Sabonis. Yeah, how you said it. It was just it was like a disdain for We got Winebach over here. Oh, no. There nothing for him. I mean, he’s just reporting on what’s what what he’s heard. I have I have no disdain for him at all. I just wish the rumors were stopped that what you heard in my voice is more so these rumors. Demanis a bonus, bro. Like I I I I want to talk I think the place that we need to talk about it is cuz I think we’re both going to have the the same mindset on it, but like what could be some of the positives, what could be some of the negatives, what we sit on it. And one of the positives that I do see about Demon Sabon is he is one of the best defensive rebounders in the game of basketball. And with the Bulls giving up so many second chance points, the defense that he could potentially bring could be huge. Also, he’s not averaging a lot of assists this year because his teammates are Demar Rosen and Zack Lavine, but he’s averaged nine, eight, nine assists per game over the last couple of seasons on top of that. Like, he is a legit triple double threat. And to have two of those guys on the court in in Josh Giddy and Demanis Sabonis could open up a lot of things for you offensively. Just sticking on the positives right now, Pat, because I think we’re both going to have more negatives, but what are some of the positives about potentially trading for Deon Sabonis? Listen, Sabonis is a younger version of what you currently have in Vu. I think he’s a little bit better of a defender. He’s he’s I mean he he’s gotten back to quiet as is kept some of the defensive skill set that we saw from him um when he was with Indiana. Now, it wasn’t elite defense, but it was it was uh uh you can tell that this team that the team around him has been more focused on run and gun scoring type and now maybe they’re playing a play style that fits his game a little bit more and he can lock in. Uh but with all that being said, um I I I look at him as somebody who consistently can get you a double double, who uh can facilitate extremely well, is one of the best passing bigs in basketball, has been for quite some time now. And and honestly, somebody who when a guy like Josh Giddy is off the floor, you truly could run your offense through uh completely and be happy and and and feel very content right there. But, you know, the likely scenario here is you’re getting a player back who even if he reaches his highs of highs is very similar to what you currently have in Nicolus with a little bit younger age, which I guess getting younger in that sense is not a bad thing. Yeah. Six years younger than Vu. Um, in that case, I tell you what though, this kind of when we traded for Vu, she was 29 years old. This would feel very similar when we traded her for Vu in a lot of areas. So, bonus is better. I want to see. We got a point guard now. It’s different. We got a point guard point guard. Yeah. And so it’s it’s it’s it’s he’s better. But that leads us to the negatives. Pat, he gets paid twice as much as Vu, which is $40 million, which if you’re using some of your expirings that of players that you think may not be like, for example, if you traded Zack Collins and Kevin Herder for Demon Sabonis, I’m not necessarily mad at that. Now, I do think it’s going to take more than that. It’s going to take some draft capital, but I’m not necessarily mad at that. But adding $40 million to take off a little bit of your flexibility of next year is a question. Which then brings the question of keeping Io and Kobe, which you know people are already questioning. And he does nothing for our defense really. Like you said, he’s a better defender than Vu, but not by that large of a margin. He does nothing for rim protection. Vu averages a block per game for his career. So bonus, I think, is like a half a block per game for his career. So he does nothing for the rim protection aspect of it. It would very much so be taking what you’ve already seen and just getting a better, more refined version of that, but it really wouldn’t do much for the defensive limitations that we’ve seen from the Bulls. And the Bulls have slid all the way down to they’re like the second worst defensive team in the league now. That would be one of my biggest concerns. What about you, Pat? Yeah, listen, I mean, it’s I think his defensive rating right now is around 117. He’s actually had a defensive rating uh he had a defensive rating last year of 112. uh which is not, you know, that’s not bad at all. It’s not it’s not a bad defensive rating at all. Um but the one thing I will say, and I do agree with you, I I think that it doesn’t do anything for your rim protection. Um but as far as being an improved defender, the one thing that we can say, at least how it had been going, uh it seems like that’s falling off a cliff when guys just don’t give a dang on the on the court no more. Um, but Billy Donovan usually gets the most out of a player defensively with with style of team that he runs. So, could I see Damonte Sabonis coming over here and being maybe a little bit better defender than we’ve seen him be throughout his career? I could see that happening. And I think he was more of a defender in his time in um in Indiana. But it’s again, it’s not rim protection. like you had Sabonis and you had Miles Turner on the floor because Miles Turner did all the blocking and Sabonis basically provided the body before Miles Turner needed to go up and block a shot. Um what I will say about the about it bottom line for me is is this I don’t think that this changes your team enough for you to give up draft capital. That’s really what it comes down to me. Like you have to if you’re giving up draft capital G and I think that’s a given that it has to be given up unless we’re talking about like All right. If if we’re talking like the weird what we’ve seen in the past, I’m giving up 11 second round picks. I don’t you mean like Okay. So even the Portland pick though, Pat, if it’s if it if it’s let’s say that they want to clear this salary, they’re they’re they look at they just want an additional first. If you give them expiring matching salary, so it’s off the books because Sabonis has three years left. What would that change if it’s the Portland pick, which does look like it’s going to convey either this year or next year and expirings? Would that make you more in on on on the Sabonis trade? I would rather have a bird in the hand than two in a bush. Okay. I would rather if it’s the Portland pick and I know like now it’s finally like it’s going to finally convey, but it is a first round pick that probably that would have to be outside of the top 18, right? So, you’re talking about a 19 through 32 pick. Um, you can find really good players there. I think you can find a rim protecting big there, but I don’t know if you can find a better center than Damontis Sabonis there right now. So, if it’s expirings in the Portland pick, I would be fine with that. I wouldn’t trip on that at all, especially if you’re keeping your own pick. Yeah. Yeah, I mean that’s that’s a good point there, too. Or maybe you can do it to where it’s the the the least favorable between where the Portland pick and the and the Bulls pick sits. Maybe it’s something like that that you that you look at as well. Yeah. Um would uh can I trade the Portland pick for Danny Wolf and just get that pick? I want Danny Wolf, though. We know you want We know you want Danny Wolf. Just letting him sit there. Me and you are both kind of not as big on this Sabonis trade. No. How much more will we like it if because keep in mind when we traded for Vu, the thought process then was P. Will is going to turn into the defensive power forward next to Vuch to overcome some of his defensive limitations. How much more of an onus did that put on Noah Essen to develop into that defensive power forward? And then do you trust that that like No’s rim protection could over the next three years we would have Sabonis be enough to overcome some of uh Sabonis’ defensive limitations? Um, I I can’t trust anything with no SN. I don’t know what he is. Like, we we know what he was in France. We know what he is in the G-League. That don’t mean he’s he’s going to be that at the NBA level. Like, I I can’t trust anything right now with where Noah Singay is because one, is he going to weigh enough? Two, is he is he going to be uh consistent enough defensively? Is he going to be able to slow things down? Is he going to be able to match up in a double big lineup? There’s a lot of teams in the NBA right now that are going back to a double big lineup. Like the size is coming back to the league. Um, but it’s funny because it’s still it’s still like you look at Evan Mobley in Cleveland. Like yeah, they’re using double bigs, but Evan Mobley still handles the ball like a guard. Like the NBA is about to get real scared. If you have these big players that are adding traditional size back, but can still do some some ball handling like guards, bro. It’s about to be real crazy around the NBA, bro. And and you see like I mean that that truly is like that’s kind of what you need. It’s why I wouldn’t be out on Sabonis. I do think it raises the the bar on Noah Essen where you it has to hit or on Modis Buzzelis who who I mean 6’10. Hey buddy, maybe play like these last couple of games. But uh I just I I look at it as a situation where you have to start asking real questions on okay the guy that is next to Sabonis, how is he able to make up for the deficiencies of Sabonis? Like you said, I think where where you lack with Evan Mobley, you get it all back in Jared Allen. Where you lack with uh um Bam Adabio, you get some of that help defensively with a guy like Khalil Wear who’s very defensively he all right, but he’s starting to get a little Hassan Whitesidish to him. The more I’m watching Khalil Wear, I’m like that’s that might be Hassan, bro. Bro, and you’re gonna And that was on the Heat, too. You gonna traumatize Heat fans, bro. you going to traumatize. Like it’s it it’s interesting to me to it will be interesting to me to see how the Bulls would build off of that. Very similar to what you said. Like it was supposed to be P will now it’s supposed to be modest. Yeah, bro. What if they trade V to the Kings? Please for the love of God make that happen. Moose going to the Kings to be there with Demar Rose and Zack Lavine would be the Hey, Vucha finally Va finally be bro. Va finally be for real and be like buy me out buy me out, bro. I’m not out of here. But with that said, man, we’re going to continue the conversation talking about uh the trade aspects and do the recent kind of losing and stuff like that. Does it make it more likely or less likely that the Chicago Bulls do make a trade? But first, we got to get to a message from Game Time. Basketball season is officially here, and nothing beats being in the arena for those opening games. But let’s be real, getting tickets can be a total headache. 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So, with all this trade talk, there’s also some trade talk around Trey Murphy. We’re going to talk about that tomorrow cuz I think Trey Murphy is one of those acquisitions that I would not beat mine. The Bulls going all in them, but we’ll we’ll save that for tomorrow’s episode. Yeah. Um but let’s talk about just the generalities around trade. We’ve talked a lot at Nauseium over this offseason about all the assets the Bulls have. 90 million in expiring contracts, 20 million in trade exceptions, all your first round picks, the Portland pick. You have you have probably the most assetrich trade deadline that the Bulls have ever had if they do want to get. It’s a big if though. Do you think that they are more or less likely with what we’ve seen now recently to make a trade? Did you hear IO’s comments yesterday? Yesterday? No, I did not. Yeah. No. Uh, was it yesterday? After the game? Yes. IO’s comments after the game. I don’t know how you can when, by the way, literally just absolved his head coach. I don’t know how you can when you have so many players who are vocal about literally the team just not doing what the coaches are telling them to do and doing their job. Mhm. How you can keep guys like that around? Like you literally have Nikolus. literally have IO Duma who I mean two leaders of the team are are they the probably the two leaders of this Bulls I would say so yeah literally going Billy tells us what to do we run out on the court guys don’t do it how do you keep those players on your team I I I think the losses and the team opening up in that manner if you’re AK you got to look in the mirror at some point and go, “These guys might not be it. The guys that we want to pay might not be it. The guys that we have paid might not be it.” Like that. That is such a damning It’s not even a report statement from your two biggest players on your team. IO literally said, “Yeah, you know, they they tell us what to do and we just choose to do the opposite.” What that that is putting all the onus on the players. How do you continue to ride with that with that kind of team when it’s the same issues that we’ve been talking about for what since 2021? Yeah. I’d be surprised if we see no moves because of these losses. Yeah. I mean, one of the words that AK I know everybody and myself included has taken AK’s words when he said, “We’re not skipping steps.” And that’s great. But there was another part in that that he said is that we’re evaluating the players on this roster for longterm fit. So that tells me is that anybody that they see as whether it’s personality, whether it’s skill set, whether it’s the vibe with the coach that isn’t a long-term fit at that point in time, if you’ve identified that or question even if you question still that they’re a long-term fit by January, you should go out and get a guy that you feel like is going use them to go out and get players that you feel will be long-term fits for whatever that is. Right? So I I I know that AK has not been a very active GM for years, right? and and he he spent a long time not making some some big and key moves. I just think that with everything that’s at their disposal now, it’ll be damn near malpractice to not like with some of the names that we hear that’s available out there, stuff like that, like I’m not saying that just because the names are available means the Bulls can put together the best package. But for any team that’s just like, listen, we don’t want long-term salary back and we want to pick. The Bulls should be right there at the top of that because they can match just about any salary and it not be a long-term burden to whatever team is do is taking them unless they’re trying to put P. That would be like the AK thing. It’s like we want expiring salary and AK’s like PP will expiring salary. We got this guy named Patrick here. What about that Kevin Herder guy? No, no, no, no, no. Patrick. Then he signs Kevin Herder. Yeah. Then he signs Kevin Herder. So then he trades him for his own pickback. Uh but no, like I I I think that this to me should be the trial run of do you have pieces here that are worth building with. Like that’s what the beginning of this season should be. And yes, this team usually catches it it its uh um I don’t want to say fire because I can’t say that, but they they usually hit a nice little stride usually going into December, going into January, right? We see the Bulls start to play a little bit better. So maybe that’s what you’re waiting for. But I’ll be honest with you, as you as you start to approach this year’s trade deadline, like continuing down the same direction with the same pieces is insane. And your main pieces for the most part, your big names for the most part are the same pieces that have been here for years. I know that now it’s a different iteration of it with Kobe, with IO, with uh um you still got Vuch on the team, but you’re kind of still running that same let’s see what we can get out of these guys that have been here the entire time that this team has sucked. That’s kind of insane. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen, it it’s it’s one of those things where as the GM like you have to have your finger on the pulse there and you have to be honest with yourself about where you see these players that are currently on your roster like being after this off seasonason like and and even then you not only if your desire to keep them but like what’s the reality that they’re going to want to stay like if you get any in England for example that Collins and Kevin Herder are like listen we proved ourselves we can be really good role players on this Bulls team we want to go join the championship team’s bench trade them now like like trade them now like not to say that they can’t help that they aren’t good players for us because they have been. But if you get any inkling that hey, these guys may go look to cha to to chase rings, which is their right, get rid of them. So is is this I don’t want to I don’t want this turn into like a a a meatthead conversation, but like is this a situation where it’s why you take a chance on somebody who would be a big contract player that maybe you could find a way out of, right? a a Zion Williamson a I don’t know if it’s actually going to happen. I saw Kawawaii rumors popping up like like where cuz there’s there’s no world where AK bottoms out, right? Like that’s that’s 100. We we all know that there’s no world where we tank, right? Is it a situation where if you’re not going to tank, the best case scenario is for you to go star hunting at this point and take a chance on somebody who, yes, is going to take up a lot of your cap, but if you want to throw a John name in there, there is not a player that is as talented as John on this team. If you want to throw a Zion, there’s not a player as talented as Zion on this team. if you if you want to go with one of the older stars like because I don’t see another avenue that makes sense for this team. So my my thing with that has always been Pat is that I and I want to be clear I get what you’re saying in this in in that completely but like I always have had the feeling like you got to become a playoff team first before you go star hunting because the last thing you want to do is give up a bunch of assets to get a star here just to just to become a playoff team and then now now you’re strapped. You don’t have anything else to get you over that hump of just being a playoff team. That’s kind of been my mindset. But then again, to your point, like you got Josh Giddy averaging damn near a triple double. You got Kobe White coming in averaging basically 25 points on decent efficient efficiency overall from the field. The the last game from three kilt his efficiency from three. You got you got your your two young pieces in Modis and and Noah Essen that you hope are going to develop and hit new strides. So like if you’re able to keep the the difference is when the Bulls tra brought in Demar and Lonzo and all those guys, they didn’t have that young player in the wing. Well, they had Pee Will and it didn’t work out. But now that you have Modis and Noah, my appetite for giving up picks is a little bit increased just because if you really believe that these guys are at least going to be competent starters and maybe more than that, you got those young guys that could develop if you do make that move for a star that could then potentially take you over that hump. So, I mean, it’s an interesting. I wouldn’t be mad if he does it. It It’ll be the most aggressive thing AK has done here. I just still don’t know if he will do it. It’s it’s so tough, too, because it’s like all the stars that that are available or players that have star talent, it’s like, you know, John may come with a gun charge. Freaking, you know, Zion may, you know, single-handedly shut down Portillos’s. Uh, it’s like there’s not a great option for you to go big star hunting. And I I get he keeps saying this summer of 26. I don’t know what he see. He got some magical names that’s available. Well, I mean, I think I think he I think personally I’ve always taken that as if you look at the restricted free agents, there’s some really good restricted free agents, which means that AK may be ready to sign a big offer sheet. So, that’s the thing that I’ve always looked at because yeah, just the unrestricted free agents, there’s not a lot of great names there at all. There’s some names I’d be interested in. Like, I’d be interested in a Mark Williams, but he can’t be he’s not healthy enough for for me to feel confident he’s your center of the future. If you just want to change your style of center where you find your center of the future, I’d be interested in Mark Williams. Walker Kesler is still a name that I’d be highly interested in. Jaylen Duran was somebody that I had on my restricted free agent list, but with how he’s playing now, there’s no way the Pistons are letting him go. No, no, no. There’s no way. Jay Ivy may let Jayen Ivy walk in restricted free agency before Jaylen Duran at this point. And I’m kind of I got Jayen Ivy at home. I mean, I got that’s kind of how I feel on that one. But hey man, uh we’ll keep the con conversation moving on the other side and always of course got to talk about this Zack Collins return update. Good to good to get Zack back eventually. Eventually eventually he’s not going to make up for 25 rebounds though. Must be like wait till we get Zack Collins back. He going to turn into the greatest rebounder of all time. Like what? That’s hilarious. 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Zack Collins is slated to return to full practice for the Chicago Bulls at the end of this week, which then puts him back uh AK I’m sorry, not AK, Billy Donovan said they’re aiming for him to try to make his return that first week of December. I think that’s kind of both what we kind of looked at as well. So, take it this the rest of this week off, come back to practice towards the end of this week, and then maybe try to get back out there on the court uh next week sometime that first week of December. How do you feel about getting Zack Collins back? Listen, I think it does help. I think it it added a toughness that the Bulls were lacking last year and and maybe it’s a toughness that this team needs. Um, again, when you listen to IO Dumu’s comments, it it just sounds like a team that more times than not has given up and hasn’t been able to push through uh um you know that that wall of I guess toughness, if you want to call it that. Um the biggest thing for me with where the team is at right now and and you know what what they need is an ability to combat um some of the two big lineups that you’re going to face. And like I said earlier, there’s a lot of those around the NBA starting to pop up and a lot of them that are getting pretty good. I mean, you look down in Houston. Uh you look at what they’re doing in uh of course when they when they play Isaiah Stewart and Jaylen Duran in uh in Detroit, you see what they already have in Cleveland. You see, like there’s there’s a bunch there that there’s a bunch of teams around the league that you’re going to have to match up with. I like the opportunity to get Jaylen Smith and Zack Collins on the floor possibly at the same time. um because I think it gives you two bigs that have a little bit of mobility while still being able to go out there and compete defensively and offensively. Um and I think that’s something that the Bulls are going to have to find a way to make work, especially depending on what you do at the trade deadline. So I it’ll it’ll be good to get Zack Collins back and hopefully he’s able to uh provide some of the stuff that we’ve missed. But listen, quiet is kept. Jaylen Jaylen Smith has done a really good job in Zack Collins absence. Yeah, for sure. For sure. And and I like I do like the fact that Billy’s already talked about like once Zack Collins comes back, that’s when they’re going to be open to using more double bigs because he does want to find a way to keep Jaylen Smith’s minutes as close to the same as possible with the way that Jaylen’s performed. And shout out to Billy for for recognizing like, hey, Jaylen’s playing really well right now, but and we got to find a way to keep him on the court. But Zack Collins does bring a little bit more room protection, a little bit more defense and toughness as well. Um, and so I’m actually interested to see what what those two guys can look like out there on the court together. So, uh, just getting your guys all back. You want your your to take a full evaluation of your roster. Getting him back here at the beginning of December would give you basically two months. All of December, all of January to evaluate before the trade deadline on what the where you feel this team is, where you feel the holes are, and then again for that long-term fit that AK talked about. Yeah. Listen, and and that’s what you got to find, you know, you got you got to start to find some long-term fits. And right now, you got long-term questions. Yeah. A lot. You got guys that have been here. You got guys that have been here five years, six years, and you’re like, I don’t know if he’s an answer on this team. I don’t like we we got to start finding stuff. You should know AK by now. He’s been here five years, AK. Um, we’re five years into this. He’s like, is Kobe Wade really a part of the future? That should be an answer we have. Kobe’s been on this team since 2017. Yeah, it’s crazy. It’s crazy. Kobe has almost been on this team 10 years. Yeah, bro. That’s wild. It’s wild, bro. Think about it this way. Some people like younger fans, Kobe White is is the player that they remember in a Bulls uniform the most. Either Kobe or Zack. Think about it. He got drafted 19. He got drafted 19. Larry was 17. Okay. Be like, “Has Kobe White been here 10 years?” But that’s crazy, bro. Still, even then, that’s still a long time, bro. Seven years. Yeah. So, it’s it’s a it’s a long time that these guys that Kobe’s been here. So, you know, we’ll see what AK ends up doing, man. I think it’ll be interesting trade deadline. And I I do think a move is going to be made. The size of the move, I don’t know. But I do think AK makes some type of move this year at the trade deadline. Yeah, I think so. I think I think you’ve kind of if you continue to play this way, um you’re going to lose Vuj. And it seems like he’s kind of irritated with the situation as it is right now already. You got to imagine he’s tired of losing. is probably going to come to a point where Vu has to go to like Vu has to go to AK and he’s like, “Please put me out of my misery. Put me down.” That is funny. Let me out of here. Um, but no man, we’ll see what ends up happening. Appreciate y’all for tuning in and show love as always. Hit that like button, subscribe to the page, leader five star review. You know what to do. Follow us on everything at Locked on Bulls. You can follow me on everything the designer. You can follow me at CEO Hayes. Locked on Bulls is free and available on every podcasting app and platform of your choice as well as YouTube, the Odyssey app, Amazon Fire TV, Rokco TV, and Fubo TV. Basically, anywhere you want it, you can get it. We’ll catch you guys bright and early tomorrow morning. 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The Bulls are sliding, the noise is growing, and the trade rumors are heating up. In today’s episode, Haize and Pat dive into the growing buzz around a potential Domantas Sabonis trade, breaking down why Chicago has been linked to the multi-time All-Star and what a realistic package would even look like. Would Sabonis fix the Bulls’ biggest weaknesses, or just shift the problems elsewhere?
Then we take a hard look at the Bulls’ recent losses and what they reveal about the front office’s mindset. Did this latest stretch push the team closer to making a move? Are the cracks too big to ignore now?
Plus, we provide the latest Zach Collins return update, breaking down how his availability impacts rotations, defensive schemes, and the frontcourt depth the Bulls desperately need.
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Nah, If it was earlier when he was in Indiana then yeah.
I appriciate early videos to watch at lunch time
Trade vuc move collin to start sabony can play pf
i want ad tbh
Do these trades make sense? No.
Is Sabonis a good defender?
Just trade Vuc, PWill, Portland's 1st and a couple 2nds. It'd definitely be Bulls West. LMAO
Coby returns and our defense plummets. Coincedence?
I would die laughing if kings ran the demar zach vuc lineup
That Dunk In The Summer League Knocked All The Spunk Out Of Noa 😂
Although Haize is an asshole and I don’t like him, he is totally right. We are not ready to go star hunting yet. We need to develop and stack talent right now. He’s spot on.
Only if we truly believe Coby and Giddey are All Stars. Then we make moves like this too build around them for the right price
NO! 90% of the Bulls organization decisions make no sense.
I would make this trade because he can get rebounds something da Chicago bulls are struggling.!
HAHAHA BETA MALES SPORTS 😅
Sabonis? Please, NO! Yeech! WTAF! You gotta be kidding me~ Essengue a year away from being a year away. Buzelis should keep his mouth shut – he created a lot of this hype, and he isn't living up to it. He needs to keep the main thing the main thing, as well as some honest self-awareness – you can not speak shit into existence. He has skills, but flaws as well, shot creation, creating for others, finishing at the rim, developing a more varied bag beyond trying to dunk everything or settling for threes. in my opinion his single biggest flaw is the upright stance he plays with on both ends. Obviously he needs to put on weight – in the form of muscle, and gain the strength needed in this league, in-fact, after watching him since the G-League, I'd prefer to see him as a 3 and not a 4, and NEVER at the 5! Needs to use his quickness more, while also improving his handle a bit more. But the upright stance thing is a real thing, he gets bumped off by guys shouldering him, because they can and more easily when is so upright, and on offense he loses his own ability to bump guys off on the drive with his own shoulder power move, which is pretty weak due to the stance. Jaokim Noah was taller than Matas but go back and look a the defensive crouch stance. Before you dismiss it, Noah won Defensive player of the year and was among the best defensive players in Bulls history using that stance.
If I could only move Vuc , Pat’s contract and Portland pick for Sabonis I’ll prob do that deal.
What sense?
Tanking for the draft is the best choice. Don’t overpay for talent.
Sabonis to bulls perfect center… If Coby is the prize no problem
No way….
Sabonis is not young, not a good defender, and not a good shooter…
First, this is an injury, rotation crisis. The Bulls haven’t figured out to maximize their roster. Second, if you are going to acquire talent, focus on alpha, ie a league level advantage. A new player has to project to offer a skill or skills that out perform a majority of the league. So if you add an average player even if he would provide an upgrade, you pass until you have a player that will add a league level advantage (alpha) to your team. Walker Kessler seems to fit that category. There is another aspect which is our youth seems to be very talented but very thin. Refs don’t protect thin players and seem to call ticky tacky fouls. Even Pippen and Jordan needed to bulk up to overcome the Pistons. Matas and Noa haven’t even finished growing up.
BULLS: Ayo, K.Huerter, P.Will, z.collins
get: Sabonis, J.Isaac, Keon Ellis, dev.carter
Magic: J.Isaac, Tyus Jones, jett howard
get: K.Huerter, D.Saric, mcdermott (all 3 expiring)
Kings: Sabonis, Keon, d.saric, dev.carter, mcdermott
get: Ayo, (P.Will), Tyus Jones, jett howard, z.collins
Kings find no other takers for Sabonis's 2yrs $94m contract,
forcing them to accept P.Will to get it done.
2027: Sabonis 45.5 + Dev.Carter $5 = $50.5m vs P.Will $18m…still saving $32.5m
2028: Sabonis 48.5 + Dev.Carter $7 = $55.5m vs P.Will $18m…still saving $37.5m
NOTE:
Kings could add GST as 4th team to get Kuminga (via Ayo & jett howard for example).
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BULLS
SABONIS, J-Stix, Essengue (kept Vook too in this scenario!)
Jon.ISAAC, Essengue
Buzelis, KEON
Giddey, KEON
Coby, Tre Jones, Dev.Carter
=
WHY do this trade? bc lack of FA's….
so get a 6yr younger/better Vook in Sabonis that has lead the NBA in Rebounds 3 straight yrs currently.
(fyi he has Lithuania roots like our GM & Buzelis).
also, pair him with elite defender with a great NON-guaranteed contract:
JON.ISAAC to mentor Essengue (his durability issues force Billy Donovan into more minutes for Essengue!)
KEON ELLIS = Elite young 3-and-D stud (better 6man than Ayo & okoro COMBINED)!!!
PLEASE understand
BUZELIS is basically maxed out physically, he's a SF
no shoes at draft combine: 6'8.75-196 lbs
but more importantly a tiny wingspan of 6'10 = a "net wingspan of only 1" inch.
add 14lbs….
6'9-210 lbs
compare to:
keith van horn 6'10-220 w same tiny 1" net wingspan (became 235 lbs)
James Worthy 6'9-225 w net span of 3"