Make no mistake about it, the Pats attempting to injure a man last night. Gunner Olszewski wasn’t tackled. He was assaulted. The played dirty.

Elliss was attempting to hurt a man. Ruin his career. Players are taught to safely tackle, to not lead with the head but with the pads. Elliss laughed and grinned after the hit.

The officials? No call. No unsportsmanlike. Completely ignored the hit. Awarded the ball to the Patriots when Gunner dropped the ball semi-conscious.

The officials preach safety? Integrity? From the hit on Dart who was clearly headed out of bounds, to the intentional spear, those officials should never be on any football field, ever again

Don’t want to hear any bullshit about them missing calls. You don’t miss a guy getting knocked out

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  2. I was fine with the Dart hit, but on the hit during the kickoff, Ellis clearly leads with his head the entire way through that play.

  3. This play seemed bad but the Dart hit was 100% legal. He was in bounds and the defender led with his shoulder and didn’t hit Dart above the neck. Dart needs to get out of bounds 1-2 yards earlier.

  4. Why is nobody talking about this?

    Every single defense of it I’ve heard (from youtube comments lol) is about how the Giants are too soft or how this being a penalty would make the league too soft.

  5. I mean I read his head did move from the hit from the first guy…but the pats dude still led with his helmet. If it’s a mistake or not, you have to throw that flag there. Crazy.

  6. If that was a hit at one of the league’s stars, it would be an auto ejection. The broadcast gaslighting us into thinking that was fine was crazy work.

  7. Dart hit was legal, but still dirty. It was a 150% tackle like the a Super Bowl victory is on the line. Just push the guy out. The QB doesn’t require a rage-fueled missile launch of a tackle to stop. The Gunner hit was ILLEGAL. Shambolic refereeing. The league is bending over backwards to protect the players, but this is OK? Makes no sense. I wouldn’t be shocked if the guy’s helmet cracked in two. Would that have resulted in a penalty? Who knows.

  8. I remember everyone going nuts a few years back saying it was going to destroy the game when they implemented the helmet to helmet rule that applied to defenseless players to ball carriers as well. Now I feel like this rule is barely ever called, players are mostly fined after the fact.

  9. I wish our defense would’ve retaliated and did the same thing to their offensive players last night. If they’re not going to call that, play by the same rules and do the same thing.

  11. For anyone who needs to shut up one of the idiots claiming it was a legal hit:

    > Expands Impermissible Use of the Helmet, making it a foul for players to use their helmet to “butt, ram, spear” or make forcible contact to opponents’ head or neck area in any way. This builds on the existing Impermissible Use of the Helmet rules which prohibits a player from lowering his head to initiate and make contact with his helmet against an opponent.

    This is from the official NFL site, under “Rules Change” in 2023. The Impermissible Use of the Helmet it’s referencing was established in 2018.

    It was not a legal hit. (Duh)

  12. The Dart play was 100% clean. It’s on Dart trying to get the extra yard instead of stepping out.

  13. You can’t judge intent from a bang/bang tackle. Jesus. Calm down. I think it should have been a penalty, sure but you sound like a crazy person.

  15. How is leading a tackle with your helmet any different than absorbing a hit with your helmet? I so often see runners putting their head down going into being tackled. Serious question here. It seems we criticize defenders, but not the player with the ball. Looks like they both went into the hit with thier helmets.

  16. I don’t even understand what the purpose of a big hit like this is, aside from trying to pop the ball out or just to lay a big hit.

    I’ve seen so many NFL players TRY to lay a big hit, but fucking miss. Why don’t players actually tackle? You don’t need to leave your feet and spearhead a guy to bring him down… grab his waist or lock up his legs and gravity does the rest. Less injury risk for everyone involved.

    Truth is NFL created this issue a long time ago and did nothing to fix it. Legion of Boom, ESPN big hit highlights, players in the NFL rn grew up watching that shit. If the best defense in modern history got there by laying the shit out of everyone, why shouldn’t they try to emulate it? If NFL cared about player safety they’d enforce actual tackles, not “let me throw my body at this guy and hope he falls down”.

  17. this is overly emotional and inaccurate. Ellis went in for a tackle and gunner had already been hit and brought somewhat down, hence his head moving to where Ellis was striking, this wasn’t himhunting the head, hence it not bein a penalty. Gunner had already been hit

  18. Yea I mean you can even take it back to the iffy tackle that ended Skatt’s season. The game is so wishy washy with calls and honestly the game is suffering cuz of it. League has to clean up on a lot of bullshit. And trust, I get it’s football and there’s injuries but for stuff like this it’s amazing how they contradict themselves.

  19. I was going to bring up the issue of injuries–look at the team injured lists–just amazing how many top notch players have bit the dust. These owners are still so greedy they refuse to pay for full time refs and allow these weekend refs put players in jeopardy. It’s hurting the product, but I guess people like football so much they will continue to go to games and watch on TV

  20. Defender leading with the crown of the helmet is a penalty afaik.

    There’s also one about not hitting a player low and high at the same time. I don’t know if it applies to runners though.

    Don’t know how it didn’t get called but the broadcasters really made it extra slimy.

  22. Dart was a clean hit, need to see more like it. Clearly, a bunch of the patriots defenders were targeting.

  24. Ellis is a terrorist. But he’s also doing exactly what meathead Vrabel wants. Last night was my “this league is a joke” moment regarding officiating. Just absolutely over it.

  25. I personally feel the New York Giants should’ve handled the situation similar to what they do in baseball. If you throw at a star players head your pitcher will go out there and do the same to the other team’s star player. Stefon Diggs or Drake Maye should’ve been on their way to concussion protocol after what happened. I’m sorry, but the New York Giants defense and coaching staff look absolutely weak and soft as fuck.

  26. You can’t mention the Dart hit like they did something wrong there. I wish our D played with their intensity. The only one I see playing like them is Brian Burns as far as intensity goes.

  27. Given the way the Pats played the rest of the game and Elliss specifically, it was very clearly a bush league play. when elliss hit dart it was legal by the book but he very clearly lowered the shoulder looking to make a statement hit, not just end the play. I don’t necessarily have a problem with that, but when he does that and the rest of the team is playing overly aggressive too, Im not buying that it was just a regular football injury. I get that the league wants to let them play without flagging everything, and Im fine with the concept of playing hard/aggressive. But if you play that way and directly cause an injury as gruesome as Gunners there has to be repercussions because thats not hard football its just plain dangerous

  30. I was there in person last night all the way up in section 326. You could hear the hit and I could tell from up there it was a dirty hit.

  31. There’s no way to make football a safe game. We all know the NFL tried to cover up the brain injuries until they couldn’t anymore, and then they did the absolute minimum until they had to do more. The NFL doesn’t give a shit about the health of their players, they never have and they never will.

  33. This same crew also did not review the Kyle Williams TD, which to me, absolutely looked like an incomplete pass. At the very least, it needed to be looked at more closely.

  34. On top of everything else, was this also not a high low tackle? There’s someone draped around his knees and he gets slammed in the head.

  35. The hit on Dart is a linebackers dream – it was clean because Dart was trying to make a first down. What Dart needs to learn is that if he steps out of bounds and gets hit like that is he gets 15 MORE yards on the play on the penalty.

  36. On top of that the announcers said it was not a foul. Of course it was. Ridiculous!

  37. I was legitimately fucking livid last night. Raging over this. I was beginning to somehow enjoy the pats after having endless Brady hatred but after that I will never support that team. Disgusting all around. Everyone was trying to genuinely hurt the gmen.

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