What does future hold for Joe Schoen and Giants amid coach search? | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC

What does future hold for Joe Schoen and Giants amid coach search? | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC

THAT’S WHAT WE’RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON OUR PROCESS TO GET THIS ORGANIZATION BACK WHERE IT BELONGS. AGAIN, IT’S THE GOLD STANDARD IS STILL THE NEW YORK GIANTS AND THE GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD FLAGSHIP FRANCHISE. GREAT OWNERSHIP YOUNG QUARTERBACK LIKE I’M EXCITED ABOUT IT. ARE HERE. MISTAKES? ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY, BUT I’M NOT GOING TO MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE TWICE AND WE’RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET BETTER. WELL, HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU’RE NOT GOING TO MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE TWICE? AND REALLY, IS IT EVER THE SAME MISTAKE? LIKE LIKE I MEAN REALLY HOW IT’S NOT LIKE ANY GM IS IN THE JOB LONG ENOUGH TO MAKE THE EXACT SAME MISTAKE TWICE, IT’S A DIFFERENT MISTAKE. THERE’S 53 ROSTER SPOTS. YOU MAKE A MISTAKE ABOUT THE QUARTERBACK. YOU MAKE A MISTAKE ABOUT THE LEFT TACKLE, YOU MAKE HIM MAKE A MISTAKE ABOUT THE AND AND I KNOW THERE’S PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT HE’S NOT ENTIRELY SAFE, AND I COULD SEE AS PART OF THE EFFORT TO FIND A NEW COACH OWNERSHIP GETTING INVOLVED BECAUSE THERE MAY BE A CANDIDATE. THE OWNERSHIP WANTS THAT THAT THE CANDIDATE. YEAH SAYS, I DON’T WANT THIS AS MY GM POSES. A THREAT, RIGHT? RIGHT. YEAH. SHANE MAY NOT WANT HIM BECAUSE THERE THERE’S AND THIS IS PART OF THE VERY REAL POLITICAL FOOTBALL TEAM. YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE GENERAL MANAGERS WHO ARE SHYING AWAY FROM CANDIDATES, WHO WOULD WANT TO COME IN AND TAKE OVER. YOU KNOW, WHEN BILL COWER WAS KIND OF ON THE PERIPHERY OF MAYBE COMING BACK. WE ALWAYS KNEW HOW IT WAS GOING TO GO. IT WAS GOING TO BE BILL. COWER OMAR KHAN, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OTHER AND BOOM GET THE BAND TOGETHER AND OFF WE GO. AND YOU KNOW, REMEMBER THE JETS HAD INTERESTED IN THEM AT 1 POINT BUT THEY WEREN’T AND SO THEY DIDN’T GET BILL COWER. IT’S HOW IT GOES. NEW YORK’S, BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD BEFORE THERE MAY BE A CANDIDATE. THEY WANT OUT? AND IF THEY’RE NOT GOING TO THAT CANDIDATE. THAT’S A VERY REAL DYNAMIC FOR THE GIANTS GOING FORWARD. OH, IT DEFINITELY IS. I MEAN IT IT IT’S DEFINITELY A BIG DYNAMIC GOING FORWARD AND AND AND I’LL BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS THERE. YOU KNOW, I GET THE SENSE RIGHT NOW THAT IT FEELS LIKE THERE. YEAH, THEY’RE GOING TO THE GM BUT MAYBE THEY’RE NOT, MAYBE THAT’LL CHANGE WHEN THE SEASON’S OVER. BUT YEAH, HE’S GOING TO MAKE THE, THE CALL HERE ON THIS OR AT LEAST BE A BIG PART OF THE CALL. AND AND, YOU KNOW, I I GET IT. I THINK YOU AND I ARE BOTH IN AGREEMENT MORE TIMES THAN NOT, AND YEAH, I’M A LITTLE BIT MORE IN FAVOR OF NEW HEAD, COACH NEW GM WITH THEM TOGETHER WORKING TOGETHER AS A TEAM, RIGHT? AND WAIT, GM’S BEEN HERE, OKAY? AND LIKE YOU SAID FOR A MONTH OR A BUNCH OF REASONS HE MIGHT NOT LIKE THE MOST QUALIFIED GUYS BECAUSE OF WHAT IT DOES TO HIM PERSONALLY. SO THEN HE GOES BACK TO GUYS, HE JUST LIKES THAT KNOWS LIKE HIM BACK AND I DON’T KNOW IF YOU NECESSARILY GET THE BEST CANDIDATE THAT WAY. WAY, THAT’S WHAT YOU WORRY ABOUT. IF YOU’RE A GIANTS FAN JOE SHANE’S DONE SOME GOOD THINGS. THERE’S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, RIGHT? THERE’S SOME GOOD YOUNG TALENT ON THE TEAM WHICH HAVE BEEN PERFECT. NO, AND HE JUST TOLD YOU THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME I THINK THIS IS 1 LIKE WHERE THE THE THE GIANTS OF JOB IS GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT APPEALING. BECAUSE YOU GO, WAIT, QUARTERBACK GOT IT. ALL RIGHT, MALIK NEIGHBORS COMING OFF INJURY, BUT DAMN, STILL GOOD. RIGHT? YOU KNOW, OFFENSIVE LINE. THEY’VE AT LEAST FIGURED IT OUT TO WHERE THEY’RE NOT A DISASTER. NOW, THE DEFENSE HAS SOME REAL PLAYERS ON IT. THEY GOT SOME YOUNG PIECES IN THE SECONDARY SO THEY’RE NOT FAR OFF AND WITHIN THAT. YEAH, YOU WOULD THINK THAT BRINGS SOME MAYBE ESTABLISHED TYPE COACHES TO THE TABLE, BUT THEY MIGHT NOT LIKE, WAIT, I’M GOING TO HAVE TO GO WITH THIS GM. MY OR WHATEVER VISION IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAT’S WHAT YOU WORRY ABOUT RIGHT NOW, WITH THE NEW YORK THEY’RE IN. AND THIS IS AN INTERSECTION OF THE OLD SCHOOL APPROACH, WHICH WAS THE GM WAS IN CHARGE. YEAH. AND THE GENERAL THINKING WAS THE GM GOT TO HIRE 2. MAYBE 3 COACHES, BEFORE THE HOT SEAT, YOU’VE GOT SITUATIONS NOW WHERE IT’S EQUAL OR THE COACH IS IN CHARGE AND EVERYBODY GOES OR EVERYBODY STAYS. I’M A FIRM BELIEVER IN HAVING A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE GM AND THE HEAD COACH. YEAH. WHERE THEY BOTH THRIVE OR THEY BOTH GO THAT AVOIDS, THE DYSFUNCTION WAS FROM THE IDEA AND THINK ABOUT IT, THIS WAY. THINK ABOUT IT THIS WAY. IF IF THIS SHOW WASN’T LIKE YOU AND ME TOGETHER IF THERE WAS A CHANCE, IF THINGS WENT SIDEWAYS, IT WOULD BE OH, 1 OF US IS GOING TO STAY AND 1 OF US IS GOING TO GO, IT CREATES ALL SORTS OF TEMPTATIONS. TO SAY, HEY, HEY, IT’S HIS FAULT RIGHT? RIGHT IN THE RAIN. IT’S HIS FAULT. IT’S NOT MY FAULT. IT’S HIS FAULT. AND THE GM’S, THE 1 SITTING UP THERE WITH THE OWNER SAYING, HEY, HEY, SEE WHAT HE DID, RIGHT HERE, SEE THAT THAT’S STUPID. GOING TO BE THAT BLUNT, YOU WANT THE COACH IN THE GM TO BE IN IT TOGETHER? THE OLD 3-LEGGED RACE THEY’D RUN AT THE COMPANY PICNIC AND THEY’RE EITHER BOTH GOING TO FALL DOWN OR THEY’RE GOING TO KEEP RUNNING. THAT’S WHY I’M NOT A FAN OF THE HALF, MEASURE OF LETTING 1 GO AND KEEPING THE OTHER. AND NOW YOU HAVE INTRODUCED THIS DYNAMIC WHERE OH, HEY, THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY GOOD COACH. BUT HE DOESN’T WANT TO COME HERE BECAUSE HE DOESN’T WANT TO WORK WITH THIS GM. THAT’S REAL. THAT’S REAL ON THAT POINT. GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST SAY, WELL, ON TOP OF THAT, TOO. WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU WORRY ABOUT IS, IT’S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN LAST YEAR, TOO. WHERE LAST YEAR, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I WAS HERE, YOU YOU? I DON’T THINK YOU WERE FAR OFF, BUT IT’S LIKE BEN JOHNSON WAS THE MAN. THAT WAS THE, THE GUY THAT WAS THE MAN. WE KNEW VERY BOWL, WAS OUT THERE AS THE MEN, BUT I’M JUST TALKING ABOUT YOUNG COORDINATORS RIGHT THAT WE WENT. OOH, AND BEN JOHNSON WAS LIKE, OH, AT LEAST FOR ME, AND I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE. LIKE, MAN, I HAVE NO DOUBT, HE’S SPECIAL WHAT HE DOES ON OFFENSE IS SPECIAL. LIAM CON I THINK WAS THE SAME WAY THAT WAY. YEAR RIGHT NOW? RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT KIND OF GUY, I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE WILLING TO I I NEED A JOB. I WANT A JOB, THIS IS 1 OF THE GOOD ONES. OKAY, THAT’S THE GM. ALL RIGHT, I’LL I’LL DEAL WITH IT. THERE’S 32 OF THESE THINGS AND IT’S THE GIANTS AND THEY GOT SOME THINGS. I LIKE I’LL DEAL WITH IT, RIGHT. BUT YOU GET INTO AGAIN, MAYBE WE TALK ABOUT A MIKE MCCARTHY, WHICH HAS BEEN THROWN UP HERE OR, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE FAN BASE AND PEOPLE THINK THEY NEED SOMEBODY ESTABLISHED BECAUSE THE FIRST TIME COACH HASN’T WORKED MIKE TOMLIN, LET’S SAY THEY FIRE HIM AND ARE THE GUYS, RIGHT NOW THAT IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE THE GIANTS WOULD WANT. AND WITHIN THAT THOSE ARE THE GUYS, I WOULD QUESTION WHETHER THEY AND THAT’S GUYS RIGHT NOW THAT IT LOOKS HERE. HERE’S SHANE FROM YESTERDAY ON THE CURRENT STATE OF THE GIANTS AND THE UH, HEAD COACHING SEARCH THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR SEVERAL WEEKS NOW. 2 WINS IS NOT WHERE WE WANT TO BE RIGHT NOW. IT’S NOT GOOD ENOUGH. UM, I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION FROM FANS OWNERSHIP, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE INSIDE THE BUILDING AND NOBODY’S MORE FRUSTRATED THAN MYSELF AND IT STARTS WITH ME AND I’M TASKED WITH TRYING TO GET THIS ORGANIZATION GOING BACK IN, YOU KNOW, THE PROPER DIRECTION I DO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN OUR, OUR ABILITY AND OUR PROCESS TO, TO FIND THE NEXT COACH TO LEAD THE ORGANIZATION. AND, AND AGAIN I I TRULY BELIEVE IN THAT PROCESS AND UM YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE’RE GOING TO GET IT, RIGHT? I DO BELIEVE THERE IS A GOOD YOUNG CORE. UH, TO BUILD AROUND HERE AND IT WILL BE AN ATTRACTIVE JOB FOR FOR MANY COACHES AND UM, YOU KNOW, I’M EXCITED TO GET THAT PROCESS GOING, YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THEY NEED A PROVEN COMMODITY, THEY NEED A GUY WHO HAS SHOWN THAT HE CAN WIN. I DID A LITTLE DIGGING ON THIS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND THEY HAVEN’T RULED OUT TRADING FOR A COACH. THEY, I THINK ARE GOING TO WAIT AND SEE WHO GETS FIRED. AND THERE’S ALWAYS A SURPRISE, MAYBE SOMEONE’S GOING TO BECOME AVAILABLE THAT THEY YOU LOOK EVERYWHERE, YOU DO A BROAD SEARCH, BUT YEAH, THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE AN IDEA WHO THEY WANT. THE, THE PROBLEM IS, IF JOE SCHOEN IS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT PROTECTING HIS TURF THAN HIRING THE BEST COACH, IT’S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM AND THE SITUATION, THE CIRCUMSTANCES MAKE IT REASONABLE FOR HIM TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT IT. THAT THAT’S WHAT HAPPENS WITH A HALF MEASURE AND I’M I’M NOT SAYING SHANE SHOULD BE FIRED. I’M NOT SAYING THAT AT ALL. I’M JUST SAYING WHEN YOU CREATE THIS SITUATION, YOU NECESSARILY ARE GOING TO LIMIT YOUR OPTIONS BECAUSE THERE’S GOING TO BE THAT COACH OUT THERE. THAT WANTS TO COME IN AND TAKE OVER. AND JOE SCHOEN IS NOT GOING TO THAT. THE BEST COACH FOR THE GIANTS. IS THE GUY THAT WANTS ME OUT, RIGHT? HE’S NOT GOING TO COME TO THAT CONCLUSION, NONE OF US WOULD WELL UNLESS UNLESS HE’S GOT THE BACKING OF THE ORGANIZATION RIGHT TO WHERE HE FEELS LIKE NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES, HE’S THE MAN AND HE’S THERE AND THAT YOU KNOW AS HE WORKED HIMSELF UP TO HOW HE ROSEMAN’S STATUS TO WHERE HE. BUT, BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT THE COACH WON’T MEAN YOU’RE RIGHT MAYBE I MEAN MAKE THE ULTIMATUM. YOU GET RID OF HIM OR I DON’T TAKE THE JOB. THAT’S THE YEAH, I AND WE’LL SEE, ARE WE GOING TO BE AT THAT POINT WHERE THERE’S A COACH OUT THERE THAT MAKES THAT DEMAND BUT, YEAH, MORE TIMES THAN NOT. I’M, I’M IN THE BOAT WITH YOU, RIGHT? WE SAW SHANAHAN AND LYNCH COME IN THE DOOR TOGETHER. WE SAW MCVEIGH AND LES SNEED COME IN THE DOOR TOGETHER, RIGHT? I MEAN THAT, THAT SEEMS TO BE WELL, NO, NO, NO, STEVE WAS THERE A YEAR BEFORE YOU’RE RIGHT. YOU’RE RIGHT. HE WAS THERE WITH JEFF FISCHER, SO I BUT I STILL WILL FAVOR THAT FORMULA MORE THAN THE OTHER WAY AROUND. CHANNAHON. GOT HIRED FIRST. ALL THE JUICE AND THEY COULDN’T HIRE SOMEONE FROM ANOTHER TEAM’S FRONT OFFICE WITHOUT GIVING THAT PERSON FINAL SAY, RIGHT? SHANAHAN HAD FINAL SAY, RIGHT? SO THEY HAD TO GO FIND SOMEBODY WHO WAS COMPLETELY DISCONNECTED AND THAT’S WHAT LED SHANAHAN TO LYNCH. IT ACTUALLY HAD LYNCH SAY HEY HEY HEY KYLE OVER HERE. HERE’S, YOU KNOW, YOU DON’T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GETTING PERMISSION FROM A TEAM FOR ME TO COME WORK FOR YOU. SO THAT’S THAT’S PART OF THE PROBLEM, AND THAT’S PART OF THE CHALLENGE. BUT I’M A BIG BELIEVER IN EQUAL ACCOUNTABILITY. I THINK WHEN YOU START CREATING DIFFERENT STANDARDS AND

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