Evaluating Mike Tomlin’s future with the Pittsburgh Steelers | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC

Evaluating Mike Tomlin’s future with the Pittsburgh Steelers | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC

THIS FOR BOTH SIDES AS TO THE PENN STATE THING? 4 YEARS AGO, MIKE TOMLIN WAS ASKED ABOUT THE USC JOB BECAUSE FOR WHATEVER REASON SOMEBODY THREW HIS NAME OUT THERE AS A POTENTIAL CANDIDATE FOR USC AND HE SAID NEVER SAY NEVER BUT NEVER AS IT RELATES TO COLLEGE FOOTBALL THAT’S NOT HIM THE BOOSTERS DON’T HAVE A CHECK BIG ENOUGH. WELL THAT’S JUST NOT IF ANYTHING THIS YEAH YEAH. YEAH. IT HAS NO INTEREST. HE’S NEVER DONE IT AT THE NFL AS HIS HOME. NO. RIGHT. AND HE’S HAD, HE’S HAD COACHES, HE’S COACHED WITH THE 4 WHO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE CROSSOVER IN TAMPA, RIGHT? ALL THOSE GUYS WHERE THEY DID COLLEGE FOOTBALL AND HE, HE HE HE’S 1 THING, WE KNOW MIKE TOMLIN. LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT, HE WANTS TO GO, HE LIKES TO PROCESS. HE WANTS TO COACH, HE DOESN’T WANT TO CALL JIMMY, JOHN’S DADDY, AND MOMMY, AND GO. HEY, OH, I DON’T KNOW. I MIGHT HAVE TO BENCH HIM THIS WEEK, AND WOULD YOU PLEASE COME HERE AND THAT AIN’T HOW HE FLIES. HE JUST WANTS TO COACH BALL. SO THAT’S THERE’S NO WAY HE’S NFL THROUGH AND THROUGH I WOULD I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF IT EVER COLLEGES ENTERTAINED THAT ANY CAPACITY SO, IT WOULD BE ANOTHER TEAM AND IT’S ALL SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO PLAY OUT. A TRADE IS ALWAYS POSSIBLE AND THE GIANTS HAVE BEEN LINKED JUST BY RIGHT, AWKWARD, BIG PICTURE DOT CONNECTING, BUT THE THING TO REMEMBER ABOUT, THE POTENTIAL FOR A TRADE OF A HEAD COACH. THE COACH CAN CALL THEIR BLUFF. YEAH, THE COACH HAS TO WANT TO DO IT RIGHT, THE OTHER TEAM CALLS THE STEELERS AND SAYS, IF WE WERE TO HIRE MIKE TOMLIN, WHAT WOULD THE COMPENSATION BE? AND THE STEELERS EITHER HANG UP THE PHONE OR THEY ENGAGE IN THE CONVERSATION AND IN THEORY REACH. WHATEVER IT WOULD BE ONCE THAT’S IN PLACE, THEN THE TEAM IF IT WERE THE GIANTS OR WHOEVER THE COACH RIGHT NOW. WHOEVER IT SAY THAT. BECAUSE APPARENTLY BACK IN 2007 THE VIKINGS PONDERED THE POSSIBILITY OF FIRING. BRAD SHOULDERS AND ELEVATING MIKE TOMLIN BEFORE THE STEELERS COULD HIRE HIM. SO I STILL HAVE A RAW SPOT ABOUT THAT, BUT BUT I DIGRESS AS I OFTEN DO, THE COACH IS THE 1 WHO CAN ULTIMATELY SAY WHEN THE GIANTS? OR WHOEVER CONTACT HIM. NO, I DON’T WANT TO DO THAT. I DON’T WANT TO DO THAT. SO IT’S NOT A TRADE AND EVERY COACH HAS A NO TRADE CLAUSE BECAUSE ALL THE COACH HAS TO SAY, IS NO, I DON’T WANT TO COME WORK FOR YOU. I’M FINE WHERE I AM. AND SO AND ON TOP OF THAT, ON TOP OF THAT TOO. WELL, LET’S JUST SAY THIS TOO, JUST TO BE BEFORE YOU FINISH ON TOP OF THAT, TOO. MOST COACHES DON’T WANT THAT FORMULA. OH, WAIT. I WANT TO GO TO A NEW TEAM AND THEY TRADED PICKS FOR ME SO I CAN NOT BUILD THE TEAM, THE WAY I WANT TO, BECAUSE THEY HAD A THEY WOULD THEY WOULD RATHER BE FIRED. SO THAT THAT’S THE OTHER ASPECT TO TO JUST, YOU KNOW, PIGGYBACK OFF WHAT YOU’RE DON’T WANT MY NEW TEAM TO HAVE TO GIVE UP ALL THIS STUFF TO GET ME. JUST FIRE ME AND THEN THE QUESTION WOULD BE WITH THE LIKE YOU GET INTO A, A, A STARING CONTEST LIKE PLAY NOW AND DID GEORGE STANZA. AND ARE YOU GOING TO QUIT? ARE YOU GOING TO GET FIRED? ARE YOU GOING TO STAY LIKE WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN? AND HE BASICALLY BE DARING THEM THEY’VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT POTENTIALLY TRADING HIM. HE JUST DIGS IN HIS HEELS AND FORCES THEM TO FIRE HIM. AND, YOU KNOW, I I I DO THINK LIKE A WEIRD DYSFUNCTIONAL PART OF THIS IS THE STEELERS. DON’T WANT TO GIVE UP THEIR HIGH SCHOOL HAIRDO. YEAH. THEY DON’T WANT TO GIVE UP THEIR JACKET THAT THEY’VE BEEN WEARING THE JACKET. THEY DON’T WANT TO 3 COACHES SINCE 1969. THEY’RE CLINGING TO THAT. THAT’S THEIR THING. WE DON’T WANT IT TO BE FOR COACHES SINCE 1969. WE WANT TO THEY’RE STILL THE LEADER HE JUST DIGS IN HIS HEELS AND YOU’RE RIGHT. HE JUST DIGS IN HIS HEELS AND THERE’S STILL THE LEADER STILL IMPRESSIVE BUT BUT THEY, THEY, THEY GOT, THEY GOT TO GET PAST THAT BECAUSE BEFORE THEY GOT CHUCK NULL, I SAW SOMEBODY TWEET LAST NIGHT. THEY’VE ONLY HAD 3 COACHES IN THE HISTORY OF THE FRANCHISE. NO, NO. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. THEY WERE RIPPING THROUGH COACHES LIKE ANY BAD TEAM DOES THROUGH THE 60S, IT WAS A REVOLVING DOOR. THAT’S WHAT MADE THE STEELERS ASCENSION OF THE 70S. SO STUNNING, RIGHT? THEY HAD BEEN HORRIBLE FOR 42 YEARS, HORRIBLE FOR 42 YEARS, THEY HAD NO POSTSEASON WINS. NOT THAT THEY HAVE A FULL-BLOWN TOURNAMENT LIKE THEY DO. NOW THEY HAD BEEN HORRIBLE FOR 42 YEARS AND THEN BOOM, CHUCK NULL COMES AND EVERYTHING CHANGES. AND THEY’VE HAD 3 COACHES SINCE THEN. SO I THEY’VE GOT TO. THEY’VE GOT THAT THAT PRIDE, THAT EGO, THAT’S TIED UP IN THAT. THAT’S GOT TO GO AWAY. THEY GOT TO THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE. BUT AGAIN, I I KEEP COMING BACK TO THIS THING THEY’VE SETTLED INTO CHRIS, WHERE EVERYONE’S HAPPY WITH THE WAY THAT AND AS LONG AS THE FANS AREN’T SHOWING UP WITH PITCHFORKS AND TORCHES OR NOT SHOWING UP AS THE CASE MAY BE NOT SHOWING UP. YOU KNOW, THERE’S A MONDAY NIGHT GAME COMING UP, DECEMBER 15 AGAINST THE MIAMI DOLPHINS. AND I’M, I’M LOOK, I’M NOT SUGGESTING THAT. THE FANS SHOULD BOYCOTT THE GAME TO SEND A MESSAGE, BUT THEY DON’T NEED ME TO TELL THEM THAT. THAT’S AN OPTION. WE’RE JUST NOT GOING TO THE GAME 10 DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS FREEZE. OUR ASSES OFF TO WATCH A TEAM THAT’S STRUGGLING, ESPECIALLY IF THEY LOSE TO THE RAVENS, THEY LOSE TO THE RAVENS AND FALL TO 6 AND 7. IF I WAS A SEASON TICKET HOLDER, I SURE AS HELL WOULDN’T GO OUT THERE AND FREEZE. MY ASS OFF ON, DECEMBER 15TH FOR A TEAM THAT THAT IS ESSENTIALLY DONE NO WAY IN HELL. NO I I I HEAR YOU THERE MIKE AND AND AND, YOU KNOW, I I THE WHOLE CONVERSATION IN ITSELF, RIGHT? AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE STEELERS AND 3 COACHES EVER. MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WE’RE GETTING TO THAT POINT WHERE THEY’RE READY TO GO TO THE FOURTH COACH AND YOU KNOW, THE HISTORY OF THEIR FRANCHISE AND THE SUPER BOWL ERA. MAYBE WE’RE GETTING THERE. THEY MADE SOME OF THESE DESPERATION MOVES IN THIS OFF SEASON THAT WE’RE NOT ACCUSTOMED TO SEEING THE STEELERS MAKE. BUT LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT MONDAY. YEAH, NONE OF THEM WERE WORKING. I MEAN, YOU SAID IT ALREADY DK ROGERS, RIGHT? I MEAN, CAM HAYWARD’S ON HIS LAST LEG, GOOD THING THEY DIDN’T EXTEND HIM AND GIVE HIM ANOTHER YEAR. SOME OF THEIR DRAFT PICKS AREN’T WORKING. PATRICK KINA, QUEEN AIN’T WORKING. DARIUS SLAY JUST GOT CUT JAYLEN RAMSEY, THEY BROUGHT HIM IN TO BE A SHUTDOWN CORNER. HE CAN’T PLAY TO SAFETY BECAUSE HE CAN’T COVER ANYBODY ANYMORE LIKE THAT. SO IT’S, IT’S IT’S A LOT OF AND THEN THERE’S THE ON TOP OF THAT. WHO’S THE BLAME FOR SOME OF THOSE MOVES IN THIS NEW ORGANIZATIONAL APPROACH, RIGHT? I MEAN I’M SURE TOM AND OF COURSE, AS PART OF THAT BUT AS WE KNOW HE’S GOT A GM TOO, THAT HE’S WORKING WITH THERE AND IT’S JUST NONE OF IT’S GOOD AND I THINK WHERE WE’RE AT BECAUSE 2, LET’S LIKE TAKING LET’S WE’RE WE’RE WE’RE THAT IS 6 AND 6, RIGHT? WHICH IS CRAZY THAT WE’RE JUST LIKE, YEAH, MAYBE WE SHOULD FIRE HIM. IT’S 6 AND 6, BUT IT’S THE FACT THAT WE’VE BEEN IN THIS SAME BOAT FOR A FEW YEARS NOW AND IT’S KIND OF FELT LIKE, WAIT, THE TEAM JUST ISN’T GETTING OVER THE HUMP AND I’M NOT GOING TO I’M NOT GOING TO BLAME MIKE TOMLIN FOR ALL OF THAT. THERE’S A LOT OF ISSUES THERE THAT I THINK ARE A PART OF THE ORGANIZATION, BUT I THINK WHAT’S DIFFERENT THIS YEAR. AND THIS TIME AROUND IS THE MOVES THAT YOU’VE ALLUDED TO SO MANY TIMES. AND THEY’VE LOST 5 OUT OF 7 AND OF THOSE 5, THERE’S SOME REAL UGLY MOMENTS LIKE REAL UGLY MOMENTS, RIGHT? I MEAN THINK ABOUT OUR CHARGERS SUNDAY NIGHT GAME. WE HAD ON NBC THAT WAS A DISASTER. I MEAN THEY DIDN’T EVEN LOOK LIKE THEY KNEW HOW TO PLAY WEEK? THAT IS 6 AND 6, RIGHT? WHICH AT THAT GAME. HOW ABOUT LAST NOT TOO MUCH DIFFERENT THERE? THE SECOND HALF OF THE PACKERS GAME WHERE THEY WENT INTO HALF WITH THE LEAD AND THEN JUST GOT KIND OF ANNIHILATED IN THE SECOND HALF OF THE FOOTBALL GAME. SO AT I THINK ON TOP OF THAT YOU GO. WAIT WHAT? WHAT WHERE’S THE BRIGHT SPOT FOR THE FUTURE, WHEREAS THE YOUNG NUCLEUS THAT’S GOING TO WE WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO WHERE, WHERE THE HELL IS? THIS TEAM GOING AND I THINK THAT’S WHY WE’RE AT BEN ROTHER AND YOU’RE STARTING TO HEAR OTHER EX STEELERS, START TO SAY THESE TYPE OF THINGS. AND EVEN PEOPLE LIKE US, WHO ARE TALKING ON TV WHO HAVE RESPECT FOR MIKE TOMLIN, BUT I THINK THEY’RE ALL LOOKING AT IT GOING MAN. MAYBE THE TIME HAS COME FOR WAYS. TOM LANDRY 29 YEARS AT THE COWBOYS CURLY LAMBEAU, 29 YEARS WITH THE GREEN BAY PACKERS DON SCHULER, 26 WITH THE DOLPHINS. BILL, BELLICH, 24 WITH THE PATRIOTS. CHUCK NULL 23 WITH THE STEELERS AND NO 1 FOR SUPER BOWLS. AND THIS IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE HE’S NOT OLD LIKE THEM. I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU. I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU. OKAY, GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU. OKAY, GOING. WE WE WE’VE BEEN TO GET MAYBE WE’VE BEEN TOGETHER SO LONG. IT’S TIME FOR WE WE THINK TOO MUCH ALIKE BUT RIGHT BUT CHUCK KNOW, FOR SUPER BOWL WINS. ETC. CHUCK KNOW LIKE I SAID 23 4. SUPER BOWL WINS ETC. MIKE BOWL. WIN ANOTHER SUPER BOWL APPEARANCE, MIKE TOMLIN’S, ONLY 53, RIGHT? HOW OLD WAS CHUCK? NULL HOW OLD WAS CHUCK? NULL WHEN HE WAS PUSHED OUT THAT’S YOUR FOOTBALL HISTORIAN TRIVIA QUESTION OF THE DAY, OKAY? I’M GONNA IT’S IT’S IT’S NOT 70 OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BUT I’M GOING TO SAY LIKE 68 HE WAS 59, WAS HE REALLY DAMN? THAT’S UNBELIEVABLE. WAS 59, THAT’S AMAZING. NOW, THAT WAS BACK IN THE DAYS WHEN 59 LOOKED LIKE 68, RIGHT? OR OLDER. YEAH, BUT HIS NAME NEVER CAME UP AGAIN, RIGHT? AS A POTENTIAL HEAD COACH ANYWHERE ELSE AND HE WAS 15. HE WAS STEELERS KIND OF SAID, OKAY, THE TIME HAS COME, BUT TOM IS NOT THAT FAR AWAY FROM IT AND THE WORLD HAS CHANGED EXACTLY S***. I’M 60. TRUST ME. THE WORLD HAS CHANGED. YOU OLD. WHEN I WAS THAT AGE. I STILL. YOU KNOW WHAT’S FUNNY, THOUGH? AT 60, I HEAR 59 AND I THINK DAMN, THAT’S OLD, ISN’T THAT FUNNY? BECAUSE YOU KNOW I I I’M WITH YOU. I KNOW. I’M AT THAT POINT TOO. I HEAR SOMEBODY THAT’S 48 AND I GO. DAMN, THEY’RE KIND OF OLD AND I’M LIKE, WHAT? I’M ONLY 3 YEARS AWAY, WHAT THE HELL AM I TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, BUT HE SEEMS LIKE HE STILL HAS A LOT IN FRONT OF HIM TO YOUR POINT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE CHUCK NULL THING IS SURPRISING BUT YOU’RE RIGHT. THAT’S DIFFERENT TIME, DIFFERENT ERA, TOM LANDRY. I DON’T I NOT SURE HOW OLD HE WAS, BUT IT FELT LIKE IT WAS THE END, RIGHT FOR HIM, AND THAT THE GAME HAD FINALLY KIND OF CAUGHT UP TO HIM AND PASSED HIM BY. SO, YEAH, AND DON SHULA KIND OF FELT THE SAME WAY. I I DON’T FEEL LIKE THAT WITH MIKE TOMLIN. THIS HAS MORE OF THE FEEL OF THE ANDY REID THING. THAT’S WHY I KEEP SAYING THAT I COULD SEE THIS ELSE ANOTHER 10-YEAR RUN SOMEWHERE AND, YOU KNOW, REINVENTING HIMSELF AND HAVING 1 MORE, YOU KNOW, GREAT PUSH IN HIS CAREER. I DON’T THINK THAT’S OUT OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE THE QUESTION HERE FOR A GUY LIKE MIKE TOMLIN AND HIS AGE AND HIS ENERGY. AND I DON’T THINK HE’S THE TYPE OF GUY THAT’S GOING TO RETIRE AND CALL IT QUITS BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I THINK HE’S A PSYCHO AND IF HE DIDN’T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO, HE WOULDN’T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH HIMSELF. HE WASN’T COACHI

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