Giannis Is DONE With The Milwaukee Bucks!!
How concerned should the Bucks be with Giannis grubbing his social media? Uh, I mean, we all have crash out moments when we want to delete things. Um, I know I do all the time. So, I don’t really pay too much attention to that. I think the real concern is the Bucks just trying to find ways to win. Um, I mean, whatever is going to happen is going to happen at this point. Um, you know, with with the Bucks, I mean, they already shot theirel in the foot when they got rid of Drew Holiday. I feel like that’s what started it. Um then you get rid of uh Griffin when he came and they were winning they were third or second in the East. So uh yeah it’s been I mean you know it’s been coming coming to this point. Um you know dealt with injuries. Kevin Porter Jr.’s been out. He’s just getting back. So it’s just all over the place right now. Um and the team is just not good. You know like I said before Giannis is 90% of the team. 95. So, you know, I think more concern is the Bucks trying to figure out what’s next and their future. Giannis franchise player. Bucks have made some interesting moves these past few years. Fired Benhoer obviously led them to the first championship in 50 years. Brought in Adrien Griffin. He lasted about 40 games. He was replaced with Doc Rivers like you mentioned. Yeah. The Dame trade which it’s so hard to say goodbye to yesterday. No, no, no, no, no. Hey, there’s a lot of [ __ ] going on in your world, man. Everybody you supporting just gone. They just getting out of there. Curry got out of there. Who? Curry. Uhhuh. Got out of there. Right. Going to wear I know he don’t win. He’s a welcome. Free agent. Free agent. Uhhuh. And then Yiannis. What? Hey, I I keep saying it. Detroit hates me when I said it. And I’m saying them faces, them them signature shooting, they them guys right there that Nike be saying you are that guy. They move him. They they move him. They don’t sitting in them cities long like that. They they moving him. He going up the road somewhere. So uh he done he done ran his course over there in uh Bucktown. So, and you should be grateful. I mean, youn the Bucks have a lot to be grateful for. I know they know this snow. It’s I mean a chip 50 years waiting. I mean, he’s he’s done everything he’s you know, he could do. I mean, at the end of the day, so you know, like I said, the Bucks concern is moving forward and what’s going to happen with them. Well, don’t worry about that. We know what’s going to happen. So, it’s so Yeah. What? It ain’t over. But uh what is this? But I guess whenever you erase everything, I everyone everyone looks at it, right? You know, everyone pays attention. So they said he did it like two weeks ago, though. Yeah. I mean, you know, they said late November. So initially everybody after that Wizards game was saying he had scrubbed it. Then obviously people, you know, you got the internet sleuth. We’re not monitoring Giannis’ social media. They monitor. They don’t care. Late November. The fact that you can go back all the way to them tweets is crazy though. That sucks. But deleting them one by one like like you know how Twitter works. So every you got to go all the way back down to find somebody. Deleting one by one just all my history just just me just I don’t want it. Like Instagram Instagram is you can delete the picture. But Instagram you can archive, right? So you can just hide it from hide it for a little bit. Twitter I believe once it’s gone it’s over. Yeah. You can’t. I mean, I’m just saying. 44 posts left, I believe, on his Twitter if he hasn’t added any recently. Let’s move over this side. Sean, what do you think about Giannis deleting the bulk of his Bucks related content, just keeping it championship centric 2024 NBA Cup 2021 championship? Um, I think a lot of uh my worry is him being with that one organization for his whole career. I’ve always liked when players do that, fight it out, you know, figure out how to get with the management and make [ __ ] happen for his benefit and theirs alike. But I mean, at this point, the way the NBA is being formatted and the way it’s functioning, they doing what’s best for business. Everybody’s getting all this money coming in. And if you really look at it, the Bucks ain’t using their money to pro they paid the coaches more than they paid the players. So, you look at the players on that roster, you look at what Giannis has been asking for to get rid of Chris, get rid of Drew. Do you feel like Giannis has been doing I mean I’m not saying he’s doing it but he’s at least known that yeah he’s aware of all of these moves based on just like any other star wanting better talent you know he’s like yo get us some real talent in here to get us back into a competitive mode and that not happening leaves you to like really think do I want to be here with this energy when they they not listening to me type [ __ ] So, I think wherever he do go, it’s going to shake some [ __ ] up and he going to have more pressure wherever he go cuz he going to have to win cuz there’s no reason to lo to leave and not win and just be out there, you know, patting packing the stats and all that type of [ __ ] But I think it’s going to be a sad day for Milwaukee cuz the Bucks stops here. What? Uh, so them getting Dame that wasn’t real talent. I don’t think they I don’t think they wanted home talent. Yeah, I don’t think they wanted that deal. I think that deal had a lot of legs based on Miami not being able to take advantage of that deal. They needed to do something. They got it done. Definitely didn’t look like Dame wanted to be there. Yeah, I think it was the wrong talent. The wrong talent. He needed help. He definitely But I don’t think they should have like just from the beginning, you shouldn’t have traded Drew like you like you said like like we said, you should have never traded Drew from the beginning. Treat Chris Middleton that way, right? guys who helped you win, right? They they were a part of what Giannis helped do. So, you defeat them guys that way. They’re just coming back to roost. You don’t think they had to to get rid of Middleton was hurt? No, he had just came back like he like he played in the playoffs hurt playing on one leg and Yiannis was out that he played well. Yeah. Like he played well in that playoffs when Yiannis like he was the only one out there. He played well and then he got healthy, right? But he had the bilateral ankle surgery. Yeah. But he made it back from that and was playing well in that playoffs and then you do that like and then Drew wasn’t scoring and they figured scoring. He wasn’t scoring when they wanted. He was the same player when they wanted. That ain’t what Drew Holiday is built on. But for you to go out and do that then the damage then it backfired. Then Drew go [ __ ] Boston went into champion. So, it just backfired all around and now this man has been asking like, “Hey, I’m trying to be competitive in the NBA as a team. I’m trying to be competitive as a team. I’m already competitive as a person.” Was it the wrong talent or was it just that they got hurt the wrong talent with with Dame? Him and Graham can’t play together. By heard a lot during contrast style cuz wasn’t they number two? It was number two in the East. So they were winning. Yeah. But when he got I just didn’t I don’t think I think that styles contrast. But Giannis been hurt past few postseason. Use better a different player there. Yes. I just think the styles contrast didn’t know they can’t run the pick and roll together really cuz Jiannis Yeah. You don’t know whether the pop was on roll. So it was it was a conflict at times. Yeah. Both hell of a basketball players in their own right. I think they both need You think if they keep Griffin, you think it’s a different story? Yeah. Okay. I do. All right. I think I believe that too. Coming from a hooper, coming from someone who like really was like I don’t know. I don’t know. Cuz when you look at the game, when we watching them play, specifically them two when Griffin was the coach, they was they was winning. Mhm. You could tell one other wasn’t happy with what was going on. Yeah. There was some more. You could feel it. It’s new. It’s something different though. It No, I get it. And that’s what I was saying about Dame. I was I was saying to Dame, he has to adjust his game because you’re no longer the number one alpha in a small market. If anybody should now, you’re coming here to a championship team that’s formulated a a certain pedigree. You got to adjust to him. Yeah. Right. And the adjustment wasn’t immediate. It was gradual. But Adrian Griffin trying to hold him accountable was another thing that was getting in the way. Think it was working. I mean, you know, and then it’s like it’s something different. What we talk about, she didn’t let Dame be Dame. But what we talk about when you pick up Dame and you lose Drew, what does Dame have to pick up? The defensive side. The defensive side. What does Giannis really pride herself on? Defense. Being a defensive player of the year type [ __ ] right? So if you giving up certain things that’s breaking us down, but you just want to come down and shoot, that’s going to wear on you. But it’s not necessarily they going back and forth with it. It’s just something in the back of Jana’s mind like, “Bro, your dude got 25. Drew not letting that happen, bro. This the reason why we was winning cuz things are always but things are always uncomfortable in the beginning. Like like when it’s work when there’s something different like even when I played with Stan Van Gundy, it was it was uncomfortable, but it it was working. It’s working, you know? It’s working. So you 40 games in, it’s still kind of ah uncomfortable, but you figuring it out. We figuring it out. And you got somebody over there, I think Adrian Griffin, who who who would have figured it out on how to intertwine with both of them dudes. But it’s unfortunate they are where they are right now, man. Like Yeah. I feel like we always talking about Giannis leaving our stay. It’s about time he just go too. It’s going to be another conversation next year what Giannis going to do. Um, I think they bring in the wrong coach for sure cuz you see the players that come in. They they don’t play the same even from KM the So, let’s just look at the Bucks. Like, he’s not even out there yet. Look at the Bucks these past few seasons. So, 2022 2023 season number one in the East. Mhm. Lose to the Heat. Giannis hurt for a few of those games, right? Fire Benhoer. Yeah. Bring in Adrian Griffin. I think started out 30 and 13 before relieving him. It was a 30 and 13. Made the dame trade, but right before the season, but it was 30 and 30 and 30 with Dame in the lineup. Dame missed three of those games. He did that they lost. So they were 30 and 30. I mean 30 and 10. Yeah. With Dame. But obviously before they switched some dissension with the players in Griffin and kind of his coaching style obviously led to his ouster bring in Doc Rivers. So finished third in Dame’s first season, lose to the Pacers first round. Giannis obviously hurt again. And then 24-25 again lose to the Pacers. Jiannis’s got to do too much. That’s why he always bring in Miles Turner. Giannis supportive of that move. Still talk about did he know, did he not know that would mean Dave was going to get wave and stretch to be able to accommodate Turner on the roster, but sign Yiannis’s brothers. Now obviously first team with three brothers on the active roster together. So it seems like this team has done a lot to try to accommodate Giannis and what he’s looking for. But at what point except get players that can help to win. Yeah. Is it is it Doc’s players? Is it Doc bringing in his his supposed formula to winning? What is that? Certain players that run in the system that we think that he has in his head. Think about the Clippers. Maybe you should tell somebody. Think about the Clippers. When the Clippers played, JJ was the shooter, AJ Green. You had Blake. You had DeAndre, which supposedly could have been Brooke and Giannis. Then you had your utility guys. You got your CP who was supposed to be Dame. It’s a different player. It’s different. Completely different player. So you don’t got a a CP setting up a JJ even with Rondo too. Even with Boston, early Boston. So you looking at a formula where he’s expecting certain players that he implement, he bringing in that just don’t work cuz those players don’t got the talent. It ain’t the same talented guys. They don’t. Yeah. They don’t do the same. They don’t do the same thing. So now you’re looking at a shell of a formula this [ __ ] got in his head like yeah give me these guys and we can work it like this and it’s like you got Koozma, Bobby Porters, you got Kevin Porter Jr. and Rollins and they not as proven as the other guys for sure. Not. But what do you do if they get if they fire Doc and they still do the same thing though? Oh no, just swamp. They should put them in the Clippers. Bringing Tailoo in. Yeah, go. Yeah, just trade coaches. Do the coach trade. Just do the coach trade. Send Doc back down there cuz they they [ __ ] is all raggedy over there, too. And ours is trying to figure it out. So, let’s just go ahead and do this real fast. Oh, that’s nasty. So, raggedy for raggedy. No, no, not both teams right now back anyway. Is coming back anyway. How long is he out for? Are they going to make the playoffs? Is that Kevin Porter kind of hurt them being out? Yeah. No, it did. It did. But that happens every year, I think, with us. And that that happens every year with the B. That’s been happening with the Bucks every year since the championship. It’s either in the playoffs or it’s earlier in the season. Somebody’s always going down. Jiannis’s got to do too much then be hurt before the playoffs. I mean, but now I I mean, but now looking at Giannis situation, I really like I don’t even man like I don’t even blame Braun for leaving Cleveland. So, it’s like back then like like No, back then when they time to go. Giannis Giannis had more help trying to put a team together in cle I mean they they went to the finals. LeBron went to the finals. No, but versus what was coming in Cleveland. Yeah, but LeBron went to the finals though. So, I understand after that like when I get to the finals, I get swept like I I got to. So, we have some breaking news uh coming from Sham Shania. tweeted just about 3 minutes ago said Giannis and his agent Alexis have started conversations with the Milwaukee Bucks about the two-time NBA MVP’s future discussing whether his best fit is staying or elsewhere. A resolution is expected in the coming weeks. And we had a win that discuss yeah why why did they just say that? You added you added a piece in. I’m like what was that piece? did not add saying if he going to stay or go. We know he leaving. So, it’s just a matter of where. And there’s another report obviously uh that the Knicks and Bucks were discussing a trade, but I don’t think a lot of people realize that Giannis apparently asked for that trade request for those conversations to go. Winhorse talked about that earlier today. Yeah. So, saying that this the scrubbing of of the social not necessarily surprising. He did say that he was committed to the Bucks and all that stuff, but about to be a billionaire. Who wants to be a billionaire? You go to New York, it’s time to go. It’s time to go. The Knicks are one option option, but uh according to reports, the Lakers could try to make a move for Giannis if he decides to request OKC. We talked about on the show yesterday, OKC having the ability to make [ __ ] you trades. The problem is they, you know, it’ll be some tough decisions and likely have to break up some of that big three for some of the money. Yeah, just to stand on that apron and Ruie for So, let’s just talk real quick. reports now, not confirmed, but that the Lakers uh if Giannis did request a trade, we’ll try to go all in to get him as they look to pair a superstar with Luca for the future. So, after the Luca trade went down back in February, Giannis jokingly had this reaction to the blockbuster deal. I know what I want. I want Luca to the Lakers. I want uh Joic to the Knicks. Uh I I want all the Europeans to go to all the big markets, you know, to see something uh incredible. This is what I want. This is my dream. This is my dream. This is my dream. So now again, this is my dream. Again, that was a joke. This is my dream. No, that was You’ve been here long, too. His English ain’t getting no better. This is my like he work at a 7-Eleven or something. So Giannis said that was a joke whether whether believed to be or not. But what he said right before that definitely was not a joke. It goes both way. We cannot have a double stand standard here. You know, when teams make the best moves for them and they believe that they can get another player to win. Now when an a player believes that he can go to a different team and um he believes that he can have a chance to win a championship, we cannot crucify the the person and say that he’s not loyal and he’s he didn’t do the right thing and he let everybody down because um the history I’ve showed you, you have to do what is best for you and your family and you have to do what’s best most important, you know, to win. You don’t have to say all that. Jiannis is eligible for an extension next October. as a player option in 2027. That [ __ ] up again. This nigga’s always up. Will Yiannis be a good fit? Doing it. Damn. Was he signing only two-year deals? Uh, doing the Bron and KD cuz I was going to say, yeah, didn’t he just sign his deal? So, what he’s doing right here is is actually he’s he’s meaning it, but he’s up again. So, okay, there we go. 2027 uh be very interesting. No, you said this this No, he elabus for an extension October. October next next excuse me next year 2020 leading into the 2027 summer sorry. Oh so under contract this year next year and then player option that summer excuse me for miss speaking but uh Gil resident Lakers fan. Will Luca be a or would Jiannis be a good fit with Luca and the Lakers? What that be ain’t about Luca and the I mean it’s not about the Lakers. It’s about can he fit with Luca style? Can they mesh together? Um, that’s that’s between those two. I don’t know they relate. I don’t know. But uh, but you think it was a joke when he said he wants all his Europeans in a big market? He said he was joking. He’s not joking at all. Everybody wants to be in a big market. They know they’re not dumb. They know if they’re in big markets, they’re going to be pushed out of this world. So there’s a reason he named the other two, we need to be in big markets, the euros. And he said what? It’s going to be something amazing because they already know that they’re going to be pushed to the next level and they’re going to get the respect and the the accolades that just comes with being in the big market itself. Just being there get you advantages. So they want that. You think Yoki is sitting there with a [ __ ] triple double every goddamn every goddamn night and nobody talks about him and if he was in New York he’d be God. But do you think Yoki cares? He’d be God. Everyone cares. You think [ __ ] practice every day not to care? We say that [ __ ] Yeah. I I don’t care about being no goddamn AllNBA player. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We do. We say that [ __ ] when we don’t get it. We do. We looking at the list too like why is he here? Why is he here? We We care. We train cuz we care. Be humble. So, you know that like we always say, Joish don’t care because he don’t he don’t talk about the game as we do, but he’s in shape every year. His skill levels there every year. He hasn’t dropped. He’s putting boot to ass every season against every opponent. So, obviously, this man is training more than we think. So, yes, he cares. And I’m pretty sure he knows if he was in a bitter a bigger market, he would be treated like what his stats say. Y’all, at the same Do you really think Joker care? Cuz he don’t talk about that type of stuff. He just care about his horses. Yeah. Yeah. Like n he could have been left. Y’all think it’s possible that the league has something to do with pushing players, the best players who are in the small markets to the bigger markets for the reasons of the broadcasting deal. See, now you asking, now you asking the questions, boy. See, it’s the AI. See, now you asking the questions, man. I’m just saying new TV rights deals been a lot of stuff going on this. Just think about what we talk about. We we sit on here. We talk about the Lakers all the time. Yep. We don’t talk about Detroit. Don’t talk about the small. So, we have talked about Detroit. I’m just saying not not to the extent. Okay. We all not to the glazing extent of we had tier two Tuesdays that we’ve been workshopping. I’m just saying like we all know like when you pushing the bigger teams, it’s better for the viewership because everybody wants us to hear about certain players, certain teams. Legacies, Boston, we’ve been pushing this [ __ ] for a long time, right? But then you look at the players who are in those other markets that are performing and not they’re not being left out of all NBA and none of that stuff, but it’s like he’s saying the marketing push, the NBA partnerships that are all connected from TV deals to the shoe companies, everything is there. Like he said, Nike not going to let they they player get buried in Milwaukee. So, let’s send them to New York. Okay, let’s send them to Boston. Let’s send them to Atlanta. Let’s send them to Miami. Let’s send them somewhere where we know our visibility is going to be bigger. But what’s going to cover that? Sending them to the finals. Getting them into the third round of the playoffs when it’s time. These are things I feel like are set up already. It’s predetermined. Back in 2011, they talked about contraction. the word contraction. Bringing all of the big market teams together and having them actually be the one little pool of teams that we all gonna look at. And all the small market teams are going to be the ones that be like, “Yeah, we’ll have you on TV, but not like that.” Yeah. All y’all going to be here. And once you look at that, all the powerhouse, you look at the super team started forming. These guys start going here. These guys on TV a lot. This is just what’s happening. A lot of guys gonna have to move. Like he said, Joker to New York. That’ be crazy. Joker to New York and uh Giannis to LA. I feel like that’s insane. It’s called good business. Yeah. Well, NBA new TV rights deal, but you got the NFL that’s also been pushing in on the NBA’s corners now with Christmas games taking more of that market share. So, you think Adam Silver and the league are feeling the heat of that and saying we need to get these numbers up? No, I mean, listen, I I’ve I’ve heard this by owner a long time ago. Yeah. He said, he said, “The NBA, not your team, the NBA itself thrives.” Like, when you’re talking about big business for the NBA, when the NBA is rocking globally, Lakers have a superstar. Chicago has a superstar, they or they winning. Boston has a superstar, they winning. Them three teams, there has to be a superstar in those three teams for the the the league to thrive for sure. So if you got all three of them with superstars at the same time, the NBA’s on fire as as a as a global group. So that means they can go out and go get big business deals if those three hubs are are are held down. He ain’t even got to move. So are you saying Thunder Pacers? No, no, no, no. He ain’t got to move. He can just walk down the street. He ain’t even got to move. He right on the highway. Go to Chicago. Y do you if he goes to Chicago? Yes. But do y’all think if OKC like become a dynasty that become like a big market? No, the market. So I think coming dynasty. The market’s population style. The market’s population style but Oh, like the Warriors wasn’t Nobody wasn’t checking for the Warriors until But major market though is their major market. Remember they’re still in California. They were just saying it’s your market is where you live. I know. But OKC being that team to me like when KD was there, they felt like a big market with KD and Russ was there. They was always on TV. Everybody liked them. No. KD and them were big. That’s what I’m saying though. No, no, no. KD know KD and Russ the city I know the team but the team college town though but the team was always on TV that’s what I’m saying yeah Christmas if you win say they win three they don’t help the NBA like they can’t be like so they can’t help the city like the Chiefs don’t help the NBA like the Chiefs football’s different though right cuz they only play once a week right so I understand what you’re saying that’s what I’m trying to become like a dynasty you don’t think but it’s a little harder in the 82 games no matter because no matter matter how many games right now if we go there they’re what 20 and one uh 21 and one beat the word 21 and let’s go check the the ticket prices because they ain’t move Detroit was a big what I’m saying is they not moving they but I know but what I’m saying is their ticket their tickets is set at a price here LA OKC can come here we can charge 20,000 front row they’re going to pay for it because the market itself don’t you You think winning changes like a a team organization though like multiple checks but Bulls is a big market city. It’s a big city. Listen the Bucks the Bucks championship and everything right. You know how much it cost to sit corag is just trash though. No, but I’m saying it’s about the demand. The demand the demand. It is right. The the man in OKC is going to be smaller cuz it’s not a big not necessarily a big city. Let’s just say it’s a college town. It is. Oklahoma Sooners are bigger than OKC based on longevity. Yeah, that ticket is going to be more for them. I mean, what is it? Is it the Seattle SuperSonics? Is this the team that came down? Seattle OKC, right? Move from Seattle to OKC. That move alone was a power move based on them not wanting to do some [ __ ] business in Seattle no more. We going to do this and we’re going to own the team NBA. We own this team down here. They not trying initially. We ain’t trying to make no big money off this team cuz it’s a small place. But guess who we got? Kevin Durant picked up Russell Westbrook. Picked up James Harden. We didn’t plan this out. Next thing you know, we’re in the finals. Mhm. Now we got to play these guys all over the place and billboard. But then what happens? Where does KD go? Much bigger market. He went and where did James Harden go? What was they calling a bigger Houston? Houston is a big market. What was they calling Warrior fans when they was winning? Warrior fans. It was a different name. People just start coming after the wood like that’s what I’m talking about. I know it’s California still. When I was in, but people don’t check for Chicago now. When I lost when I was there and we was losing it was sold out. I’m not watching the Bulls. But no, what I’m saying in Golden State, we believe. Do we believe Warriors? They were there. You didn’t go. You didn’t go back for sure. Go back with BD. We believe it was came to see Bobby Sur. Nobody was coming to see Bobby Sur and Antoine Jameson. So, and you that’s all right. Your games was sold out. But I’m trying to say like you don’t check for the Bulls right now at all. But Bulls is a big market. If they had a superstar there, they’re back on TV. Yeah. If Giannis went there, they just turn it’ll turn overnight. It’ll turn over. But I’m telling you, if Giannis went there, if whatever TV games they got now, they went there, that whole change. That whole [ __ ] will change. So, depends on the superstar though. So, if Shay went there, you think OKC? [ __ ] yeah. Hell yeah. He’s a MVP candidate. You’re not like Derek Rose exciting. No matter like the Timberwolves, people watch the Timberwolves metric cuz Ant-Man like they’re a big team. He’s exciting, but he’s also No, no. He’s also all NBA [ __ ] but his plan Yeah. No, what you’re saying is Ant-Man’s play is Yes. But Shay’s name But Shay’s game and his accolades, he would be pushed as a superstar. That Bulls jersey. Look, you got Zack Lavine and Demar De Rozan on the same team in Chicago, right? One is exciting, the other one is uh precise. He he he’s consistent. Dear was like almost uh like he was in the MVP racing when he was Jamar was De Jamar he had it on but them there together didn’t do no justice cuz they wasn’t all NBA just so you know they won how many championship game winners? I remember that they got five championships in the world. Make it bigger. My San Antonio got five championships in the organization. But they was boring. But look, no, no, but but look who’s in front of him. The Wizards because the market’s bigger. So no matter how many championships OKC wins, it depends on the play, too. No, what I’m saying is that don’t it doesn’t matter how many championships your organization wins. OKC can win 10 championships in a row. They not going to sell more than New York, Boston or Lakers when they go to sale. I’m just saying like them. You think Cleveland was a big market when Braun was there? It was on but of course it’s Braun. They’re not a big people. It wasn’t a big market, but they was on TV every because it depends on the if the players exciting. What’s crazy Miami and Cleveland 17th and 18th largest market. So he literally went from Cleveland to Miami. Two middle tier markets. Yeah. But that’s just LeBron, longevity as we call it. People watch the Timber Wolves all the time. I feel like But back to the Giannis Lakers discussion because if you talk about Giannis uh wanted to go to the Knicks, that would be huge for the league. Knicks are already big time. But with Giannis on that squad, you talk about Giannis pairing up with Luca, two of the best Euros in the game right now. If you’re the Lakers, who is off limits on that roster besides Luca? And keep in mind, LeBron has a no trade clause this season. Thanks for wait got to go there. Why he can’t go the Knicks? That’s just the Lakers would be aggressive and trying to find they’re trying to make big moves. Mark Walter came in pushed the bus family out. You’re right. That’s many big bread. And they never seen San Francisco. I mean they never seen a players got you guys in there. Jack Hayes got to be or we not doing it. Golden State. I mean it’s if it’s a big market I know I know all of them are going to be trying to throw everything they can. Do you think they’ll do right by Jonathan? Send him where he want to go though or they’ll be like I think he earned that but but if you still feel he has power in here because if you try to pull that well I’m just going to opt out and go where I want to go in 2027. So whatever you’re doing right now he’s going to be 35 36. He’s Greek though. Greco Nigerian got different going up still. Clippers ain’t won a goddamn game. Look where they franchises were. I said I know the I’m just saying don’t the players sometime make the team. They mean the team they make the team visible. That’s what I’m saying. I’m not saying that OKC going to be bigger than I mean. Is he getting better or is he has he reached his peak? 30 points per game on 60% I believe is heading for three straight seasons of doing that. Yeah. Are we going up or are we going down from here? If this is the peak three years in a row, can we go up like Joel Embiid? He went up when we when we thought he was at this like come back next year. big fella get in shape. Wow. Wow. He averaged what? 32 31. He went up a couple points and he won an MVP. But now, you know, then he got hurt. 34, right? Yeah. So now it’s like for Giannis if he come like if this is the peak he gets traded, is it going to be all right, we’re going to outperform now. We’re going to show that this new place that I’m in help me get to these new heights. Or are we going to be at this place where we’re like, “Damn, Giannis production went down, but they’re winning more.” Okay. I mean, that means that if I bring this 31 and 13 and seven somewhere. Mhm. And you put me with some pieces, we got a [ __ ] chance to win every time. Like, what if I don’t put you with no pieces? We just put my 31 13 and seven ain’t good enough then. That’s what I’m saying. It ain’t going cuz it goes down. No, dude. They send I don’t think his production goes down. Giannis turns 31 on Saturday just for I don’t think his production goes down. He’s only 31 years old. God damn. I don’t think his production goes down. You just got to change the way he play if he play for the Knicks. You got to change the way he play. They play in the half court. That ain’t going cuz Jaylen Brunson still controls the pace, right? So So his number you think it’ll go down a little if they if you play if he has to play in the half court where he’s not the focal point. Go down for sure. Winning though. But I mean but the thing at the end of the day him averaging 25 13 six ain’t the worst thing. No, it’s not bad. If they’re doing that and he’s you got a Jaylen Brun who’s controlling the pay somebody like that and he’s averaging that. Yeah. The production might go down. Let me No, no. He getting up off that ball. Yeah, that’s the thing. He’s he don’t have a choice. Hey, little man. Get up off that ball. Yeah. Get a little [ __ ] because you got number eight. Get off that ball. No, you got two different Kobe. You got the eight Kobe and then the mature 20 like you know what I’m saying? like you can still if you put him in I’m saying if the injuries that Giannis has suffered in the playoffs is because he plays basketball a certain way. Yes. Right. For sure. He’s running downhill, he’s rolling ankles, he’s running over people, bumping knees, all those things, right? In order to avoid something. We all know injuries are all part of sports. Let’s not see that. But if he changes the ways he plays, instead of 50 possessions, him doing this [ __ ] you cut that down to 25. So you saying become But he still he’s still going to get them same buckets. He’s still It’s just going to It’s just going to look different. That’s all we saying become a more of a half court player? I think he can. That’s his game. And that’s fine because now we’re getting to another element of his game and that’s the part of maturing, right? think he got back. I don’t He has the He has the ability and the body and the skill set to I ain’t saying change to go go back the way the NBA used to play with Shaq and go throwing the ball down. I ain’t saying go back to that, but he has the ability to implement it a little more because of his skill set. Let me ask you this. Throw him the ball on the block, action on the weak side, and let him go to work. You still doing the same [ __ ] You can still get the same looks if they decide you got the guy coming out the I’m saying you got the dude coming out the corner. You still get the same threes, same looks if you put him in the let him play in that Joel area. Joel did it. What the [ __ ] is going on? He can get foul, right? He draws fouls, right? He draws fouls. You put him in that Joel area. Catch it, go to work. He has to work a pass through. Joel’s more skilled with this [ __ ] Catch it, go to work. Listen, my question. Hold on. Hold on. My question is this. spin out. What team is he going to go to where they’re not going to have a dynamic point guard like like a Lillard that want the ball, want to shoot, and that want it in his hands all the time? What team? There’s plenty places you can go. Huh? What good team? Listen, the Knicks are good. No, I’m That’s Jaylen Brunson. Okay. And And yeah. Now, what happened with him? Players, too, that play decim. The style of play you’re talking about pick and roll play, but they moved into a halfcourt game. They slowed the ball down to see if they can play like Dane’s not a pick. That ain’t what he do. But they was giving but they was giving uh Giannis the ball in that mid post and letting him work. The thing was they was sagging off and they was making him do other things and that’s what it couldn’t it wasn’t feel good for Dame cuz Dame was like well damn my [ __ ] go to work. We giving you the ball you ain’t going to work. Yeah that’s what I’m going to say. Yeah, we living with living with Jiannis. The whole game post for sure. I’m living with that. I didn’t say that. Yes. But what was like LeBron back in the day? Him getting a rebound and pushing that [ __ ] 50 times, which he doesn’t cut it down to 25. What you running for him? What you running for Giannis in the half court that’s going to make him effective? He needs a coach. That’s what I’m saying. So if we’re not if we’re not giving him 50 of these and we like to play your way, right? And we like, “All right, let’s me and you. Let me go. I’m going to give you something.” Defensively, we get back in transition all the time. Enough. We get back in transition enough to force you into half court. Okay, cool. We put Giannis on the [ __ ] wing. We run a back screen for him. Either what you going to do for it? Slice cut. You run a back screen for him. You going to switch it? We have to peel and post right there. Throw the ball. Do you switch it? Throw the ball the side he came from. Peel and post. Doubling on the kick. Throw that [ __ ] doubling on the case. He’s under the [ __ ] We’re switching right away. We’re switching right away. He going back door. You got hold him up. Switch. I’m going to be honest with you. It don’t matter how many people you put on. Oh, this [ __ ] G. Yeah. This [ __ ] over here think the way the way we used to play basketball, right? That [ __ ] said, “Hey.” Yeah. That [ __ ] said, “Hold him up when we switch.” As soon as we switch, [ __ ] said, “Hold him up.” No, that No, [ __ ] He’s free. There’s a free run to where he want to get to. Ain’t nobody getting those kind of seals in the league right now. draw. Zack Edy might be the only one to get a seal like that. So you just ask 327. So you just ask what we running for him, right? I’m giving you I’m giving you sets. If you want to if the if listen, if I’m coaching Giannis and I want to get him different looks and better situations, I put him in those situations, right? I run things different for him to get him easier looks is what I’m saying. He catch the ball. He buffing. Go down that [ __ ] Peel open. He wide open and you don’t throw it to him and you fire a three. I got a problem with you. No, for sure. He peeling post. You trying to fight with him to get position, it’s a foul. Right. Right. He’s a more aggressive than [ __ ] 85 90% of dudes in the league offensively in that area that I’m speaking of 100%. You throw that [ __ ] down, he hook dunk. He hooked dunking that [ __ ] with his left hand. But what’s a few seconds? You just told me that side. I’m telling you how we would guard it. This is how we would guard it. the NBA. I’m going tell you who did though. They guarded it. Uh San Goon and those boys guarded Greas and them over there the same way I’m talking about. And he said, “Listen, as good as Jiannis is, he’s a terrible passer. He don’t know how to pass the ball. So we pressure him in the double team situations, he’s not going to be able to make that play.” Cuz you know why? He didn’t have the players. But he ain’t been put in them situations. That’s why we would do that to your to your offensive set. We would do that until he adjusts. So, so the adjustment would be it ain’t you just pull this [ __ ] out your ass out of a timeout, right? You p you would you practicing. You were supposed to train. This is we going to put this this is the this is the Giannis package. Pause, right? Damn. Good job, Ken. Wait, wait. Be mindful. This is the Giannis offensive the [ __ ] play sheet. Right. Giannis got 10 halfcourt sets. I ain’t saying it got to be 35 of them [ __ ] 10 different ways to get Giannis to touch on the block, on the elbow, with the scoring point guard you seen. Yes. All whoever you want to have on the roster, whatever it is with L, put him on the Lakers, whatever. JJ Renick with Luca. I’m just throwing this [ __ ] for shits and giggles. We know the way Luca controls the pace of the game with every possession, this, that, and the third. We know that. You got 10 plays. I ain’t saying you get to all 10 every game, but we got 10 to get Giannis touches close to the rim, which push pressure on the defense. We all know that. You put him in those situations. I ain’t saying you get to all 10 every game. You might only call [ __ ] three of them. He might have got scored. He might got fouled. He might put pressure on the defense. Now you’re getting wide open threes. That’s all I’m saying. you put him in better situations to help him because he’s proven what he is going to do when he get the ball in his hand off the rim. He’s proven that. He getting that [ __ ] He is going with it. So if 50% 60% of his scoring output is that, that means the 40% we’re going to bake on 40% of you in the half court and then that we’re going to cut that 40% into 20 because we know you can’t shoot the jumper as effective as we as you should and you really don’t like playing with your back to the basket. So got that LeBron. We’re at 20% with Giannis saying, “All right, we’re taking away 60% of your fast break offense. We can actually play this question for the coach.” I hear you, but that’s the way we played in NBA and the way we game plan [ __ ] I hear you. Yes, that’s not this NBA. There is no [ __ ] resistance around that paint area. 15 16 feet in. There is no resistance when Giannis under Dupo makes his mind up that he’s going to attack. That’s coffee. There is no resistance in those areas whatsoever. One move. Listen, trust me, from a [ __ ] who I lived on one, two dribbles, 16, 17 feet in. I’m going left, I’m spinning back right. I’m going right, I’m spinning back left. He has the ability to finish with both hands around the rim. He’s long, athletic. He’s dunking the ball from areas that most people can’t reach. He’s getting fouled. He’s shooting [ __ ] 13 free throw. So, put him in those situations. Like, I hear you with the percentages and all that, but that’s the way we would have guarded him. I guard him right now. Yeah, but you s over here with me. I’ll guard him right now. Question for the couch now. You got in the NBA ain’t doing that big cuz they don’t know how. You got trying to go to a better situation, right? Say you want to win a championship. I think that’s been the main thing he said repeatedly. But you talk about making these trades, you got to think about what all these teams going to give up to get him. Is he gonna find himself right back in a similar situation with Milwaukee and not being on a contending level team? So when you look around the league, what other teams give Giannis the best chance at being on a championship contender? What’s the the first time he gets when he gets traded there? What’s the rank? You’re going to have to, you know, you’re going to break your team up to get him. So let me throw some names. Then you have to make a deal. San Antonio. Does that make them? Do they have enough money? Who do they have? They’re going to have to get rid of what? They have players to trade on trade. I mean, but what does it but just him and Wimi? At some point, they’re going to win the championship. It would it wouldn’t be just him and Wimi. I was about to ask it be just him and Wimi for that. What’s the window next year? And then from there, they can find anybody at the window. That’s the saying. Like two years, two and a half years. Two, three years from now. People with this three years from now, they add pieces. Yeah. But you talking about but defensively they shutting everything down. They have pieces. My point they would have to give up some of those but you’re talking about a combination of Castle Dart. Okay. What I’m saying matter they’re winning right now without you put him and Jokic it don’t matter who you put him and Luca within two to three years they’re winning the championship. Um him and Wendy will be I mean we can talk about what our defense looked like back in the day. Like King said that’s not our defense today. He’s averaged 30 points a game, 11 rebounds, six assists for the last five years, 29 for the last seven years. Right? Which means whoever is out there for the last seven years couldn’t do nothing with that [ __ ] Okay? Right? They they couldn’t do nothing with him. So you put him with someone else that can put the ball in the basket at a very large rate, he’s unstoppable. Because right now he’s playing one on five and he’s averaging 30 and 11. One on five. We know who’s coming down. He’s 90% of the offense, right? 90% of the defense. You put him with anybody who can put the ball in the basket who’s a threat in trouble. You put him with Brunson like Dame Lillard, but you don’t like his You put They were 30 and 10. I know. 30 and 10. That’s what I’m saying. Like Dame, they were 30 and 10. They got hurt. But they were 30 and 10. I’m I’m I’m saying I’m pro I’m saying to your point I’m saying to your point they were playing well they were playing what I’m saying to your point but it didn’t sustain they changed the what’s the name but they changed I think it got to be more than just a guy that puts the ball just a little bit more a dominant point guard Holiday point guard he got to have a point he average with Dame oh it don’t matter 30 he play but what did Dame taking 26. Yeah, I think they were as Are you talking about 30 point a night score? Yes, they that’s what they were. They were 30 and 10. That’s what their actual record was. Are you saying like the other player traded? Does the other player need to average? Okay. Can I ask you something? Is 30 and 10 a good record? Yes. Okay. Yes. I don’t think he has that. We’re we’re we’re we’re looking at what happened after the after they fired the coach. Now, that was different coaching. No, but I’m saying that wasn’t unstoppable when he was with Dane. They were winning, but he wasn’t no unstoppable guy. They were still figuring out how they needed to play together. That’s what I’m saying. The longevity of them two playing together. I don’t feel like game scoring output went down. He stayed the same because he ain’t changed his game. Nothing changed. Jiannis style of play is tough for a Bronson or a guard point guard like that or Maxi or something like that. Like, bro, I got her game changes, but they both but they both had a chance to try to win it. But they playing like this. So like honestly like the women they’re looking at. So So like the production I mean at the end of the day if Dame if Dame numbers is going down and Giannis is going up we’re going long as they’re winning what difference does it 40 42 21 31 33 26rew Drew they won a championship back to back. Drew’s output wasn’t no 20 something. Right. Right. Right. Right. No it was both both both sides of the floor. He was Giannis was able to take over when he needed to. It was it was all dependent on him. Drew and and Chris, y’all come in and y’all y’all Middleton was no [ __ ] slouch. I mean, I’m like I’m about to say Chris Middleton was hurt. I mean, yeah, PJ Tucker over other people over there. You needed a a whole conglomerate of But but now looking back though, like yes, I didn’t like the Dame like trade, but for Drew, but if they’re 30 and 10 and they both averaging 30, I mean, we didn’t really get a chance to really see what could really happen. with Trey like like that’s not fair either and then then you fire your coach and then it’s just like they winning. I I like that one though. Do they take it all the way? I like how many years. Where they at? Yiannis. Yeah. No. Gonis and Trey. If Jonas and Trey He not going in Atlanta. He not going to Atlanta. That’s He not going back to the basement. He’s not going to Atlanta cuz I know one thing he knows. We ain’t give it a try. He knows if he goes to Chicago, he knows if he goes to Boston, he goes to New York, or he goes to LA, he can recruit better. So, what about Chicago? Giddy. Giddy about Giddy Gone. Giddy gone. Giddy. So, who you going to bring in? Don’t do that. J. No, you got to remember. So, what about J? What I’m saying is he can recruit anything. All them guns and [ __ ] in Chicago. You going to put him around that? Jiianis in Chicago. There’s more Yiann in Chicago than it is Memphis. That’s what that [ __ ] is. What about LaMelo? LaMelo. I was going to say LaMelo. LaMelo and Giannis in Chicago. It all depends. What I’m saying is easier for him to recruit in Chicago with the Chicago backing and bag than it is to tell somebody to come down to Milwaukee. I’m just thinking of the guy. We know damn well if we got that call from Giannis, hey man, I know you sitting in LA right now. I’m going to come on down to Milwaukee. Clicker. You going to click? You going. Is it a festival? I’m You got a festival going on? You got a cherry invitation going on? Are y’all doing it in Chicago or you doing it in Milwaukee? I like cheese. You know what’s so crazy? The drive is only an hour. An hour drive is for sure like how many players are capable right now in the league that could do what you’re saying to have that other side of Giannis that can contribute those points and win play winning basketball. How is it on you could there’s one team that can actually like five guys maybe you can throw Ant in there. You think he’d be nice to Kate? K. I thought about Kish. I thought about no Kate but they they will have to break up that team a little bit. The only team that can sustain eight is nice. I like Kate. Golden State I just what I just Golden State can actually move pieces. But what are they giving up to? They can give up Draymond Green. They can give Kaminga. They can give Draymond Green, Kaminga, and Pazinski. I’m not doing that trade if I’m Milwaukee. Yeah. Unless you not doing that to Milwaukee. They make a team. Nah, you make a team like the Wizards. be the wizard. So, we actually asked the chat best nonlaker landing spot for every game. Let’s go back. Let’s go get that point. I hope y’all didn’t put Miami in it. We asked the chat best nonlaker landing spot for Giannis. 30% said the Knicks. 29% said the Warriors. 20% said the Spurs wanted him. I forgot about that one. Him and Steph could play that face. Didn’t go through. I forgot. I saw them at the party together. Hope they all We will monitor the Giannis situation. We got a lot more to discuss in the show. So, let’s keep what the [ __ ] Spurs OKC rocking. The [ __ ] is not going to OKC the same offense. God damn. He seen what happened to goddamn Tiff Dun. Y’all don’t respect that man. God damn. He can rock. He’s going to a big market. So, I didn’t use OKC nor did I use the other team because he’s not going there. All right. Well, let’s keep this thing moving. So you know them.
Giannis Antetokounmpo Is DONE With The Milwaukee Bucks according to Gilbert Arenas as Gil & The Gil’s Arena Crew react to Giannis scrubbing his social media accounts of a majority of his Milwuakee Bucks related posts and debate if the Bucks should be concerned about the hapiness of the Greek Freak as trade rumors continue to swirl as he looks to move to a bigger market with championship aspirations like the Los Angeles Lakers, New York Knicks and Golden State Warriors.
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44 comments
" Maybe he should tell somebody"😂😂 low key
I would love to see Giannis in Golden State. Move Draymond, Kuminga, Podz, and picks.
Thanassis Seen Giannis Get Injured And Watched His Career Slip Away
One day we are going to have real conversation about Doc Rivers. Ive never seen a coach have so much talent and only have 1 chip.
Gil stop speaking for us in Oklahoma! Our prices have definitely went up, stop talking about us when you’ve only been here to play a game and leave and it’s been a long time at that since you’ve have
17:10 pause Gil😂
27:39 nick is slow af
Only McCants can wear a Bama hat and Georgia jersey 😅
It’s crazy how the Greek freak has already played 13 years in the league and yet he’s only 30 years old.🤯🤯
If Giannis was smart he would stay. He probably has the best pr in the league. Already Won a chip. Stayed loyal to a small market franchise. Likeable personality.
Mmcants the hypocrite now its cool for the player to leave his kingdom 😂😂😂 from what he was saying you never leave your kingdom man stfu 😂😂😂
He can come on to the heat
Giannis has championship pedigree. Dame had star player on bad team mindset. You have to be committed on both sides to win.
Kenyon Martin is the most sorry number 1 pick ever. The only thing he did was rebound and dunk on a put back… he was actually trash. He can’t shoot he couldn’t even post correctly.. weak ass nigga…… KMart is a lame sad ass nugget wishing he had the same opportunity like Nick. He’s an old head that’s BS.
Joker in NY would’ve been the GOATly (Godly+ GOAT) & prolly got atleast 1 more MVP
Giannis going to lakers when LeBron retires
Bandwagons? 26:45
how you wearing a bama hat wit a Georgia jersey lol
The Detroit Lions ticket was cheap when they was horrible now the cowboys Lions and chiefs have the highest tickets , Gil just be chatting sometimes 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is what killed the NBA… I remember a time when there was a superstar on every team but these new soft players changed the game by joining together and making superteams and this is the result
Giannis please go play with Steph. You won't regret it. Hell, they'll take yo brother too!!!!!
He can go to Dallas give up AD PJ and Klay
His body is showing wear and tear. The management of the Bucks has shown that it cannot solve problems and use the resources to build around him effectively. A decorated vet that has more years behind him than in front, is going to want change because he is staring at mortality.
That musical chairs head coach stuff that started when Budenholzer was fired that the first indication of this whole thing going left. Star players want stability and the Bucks have been anything but stable since the chip.
The best destination for dude is hard to determine because of his playing style, contract and the personnel on board with the new team. If it's a two team trade, all of the guys Giannis needs would be going to the Bucks for him. A massive 3-5 team trade would be needed IMO.
This is what happen when yhu try to pay for chip nd sell all yhur chips for stars to make ginnas happy its only one way to build a dynasty thru the draft thats why its so hard
They championship windows closed cuz of injury and that was all ginnas he been injured in the playoffs since 2021 literally and they blew the team up for dat
He not leaving Milwaukee
BEANDON JENNINGS IS HORRIBLE AT THIS! Get rid of him man! He’s a yes man, to Gilbert and he provides no take where I’m like oh yeah that a great pov
Think he going to the sixers
25:41 This when I tune out. OKC loves basketball. They moved there cause the new owner at the time and the city had been wanting a ball team since the hornets where there temp. Because of Katrina. Small markets can have real fans just like any team. It’s just the big markets have more people that’s it
Lamelo and Gee to clips would be scary
Buyer beware. The notorious strained calf has happened.
Giannis to Bulls with Giddy? Thoughts? @TheArena
Lmao McCants a fckn hypocrite 😂 .. so Gianni’s gets to leave after having no help … but you don’t like LeBron for sitting in Cleveland for 7 yrs n leaving cus they weren’t willing to build around him 😂😂😂 fckn clown
He’ll be going to Chicago
2:49 whats this song?
dame n giannis wasn’t gonna work as a duo, mccants right, u need a duo like luka n austin, where both are able to go for 40 but they both know who gonna take the last shot in the hypothetical nba finals big time moment
38:28 he just had 18 assists?
Bro they signed 2 of your brothers. They fwy too hard
He’s not going to the LAKERS
He’s not going anywhere
He’s from another country he would love Chicago
Josiah need to stop lying they do not talk about pistons like they talk about the lakers. Every few episode you hear josiah calling luka “slovenia jesus” top tier glazer
Giannis needs to go Charlotte hornets, him and lamelo shaking things up
Giannis to the Warriors