I was a little disappointed after the draft that we weren't able to get Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter, but all things considered the Campbell pick looks amazing now. It sucks that he's injured, but hopefully he'll be back for the playoffs.

The rest of the top end of this class has looked solid, but slightly disappointing. Hunter wasn't looking like the generational prospect he was built up to be before his injury. Abdul Carter has had off the field issues with mid production. Cam Ward and Jeanty are hard to judge because of how bad they're teams are, but so far it hasn't been great. Mason Graham has actually looked pretty good, but I would still take Campbell especially because OL is a bigger need for us

But that's just how it looks right now, obviously its still too early to judge these players and I'm sure a few parts of this post will look silly just a year from now.

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  2. >Abdul Carter has had off the field issues with mid production.

    He’s getting tons of pressures. The sacks arent showing up, but hes more productive than the sack stats say.

    And I firmly believe a team with more discipline like ours would be able to help in regards to the off-field issues.

    I’m happy with Campbell (if he stays healthy) but idk if I can agree Carter is mid, at least if you look at only what he’s doing on the field. It’s only a matter of time before those pressures turn into sacks for him if he’s able to do that.

  3. I don’t think hunter was labeled as generational. People were very clear that he likely cannot play both sides of the ball and didn’t believe Jacksonville when they said they’d try it out. He was starting to really find it as a Wr before the injury too.

    Very glad we took Campbell. Big time eating crow on that. Pats have been lucky to have 66 out there being a dawg

  4. Little bit curious how it plays out if we got Jeanty.

    With Maye playing as well as he is imagine if teams had to worry about Jeanty as well.

  5. His performance has been stellar, but I also appreciate his attitude off the field and the work he puts in early. Cool story: “[Will Campbell’s 4AM Routine/ The Moment Mike Vrabel Realized This Rookie Could Redefine Patriots’ Culture—And Why Fans Are Talking](https://i.imgur.com/tRId4ZP.png)”

  6. The draft overall was a masterpiece. Yes the schedule has been easy, yes Maye is him, yes Vrabel is coaching up the defense, but I’m not sure any of this is happening without one of the best drafts the franchise has ever seen

  7. I felt like many did with this pick. But I learned my lesson.

    We’ve been conditioned into a superstar league, and sort of forgotten what it’s like to build a team since the end of the first dynasty. I’m truly floored as to how quickly we progressed.

    Our only possible failure point is next year’s schedule which will likely be insanely difficult. I hope we don’t stumble like the Texans did in CJ’s second year and Washington did this year.

  9. It’s always too early to tell with rookies in general. To me it isn’t until rubber hits the road on 2nd contract details before I say what went well and what didn’t.

  11. Pats/Browns crushed the top end of the draft.

    Browns will mess it up somehow, and we’ll get super bowls.

  16. Hunter man not have had huge stats but he was actually playing at a high level on both sides of the ball. He has key PBUs and catches and really seems to be taking form until his injury.

    Abdul Carter is the only one I can definitively say looks like a miss.

  17. It’s almost poetic now knowing that we beat the bills last year week 18 apparently ruining our draft position but in turn we screwed them out of the playoffs made them lose to KC again ended up getting the best player in the top five anyways and now are ahead of them in the division. Bills really are poverty.

  18. Carter has always come off as though he has an attitude problem. Even before he broke any rules, he always seemed sullen and angry. Probably not a good team guy or locker room guy

  19. So, I think, at some point, people need to take into account destination. First round picks, 90% of the time, have all the tools necessary to succeed in the NFL. If they land on the Jets. If they land in a scheme that has a complex playbook and a strict culture of personal responsibility, they may wash out.

    I wonder how many QBs have perished on the shores of terrible franchises. I wonder if N’Keal Harry played like AJ Brown, and if AJ looked like trash if all those players swapped places on draft day. Maybe Chad Jackson was an all pro and Greg Jennings a bust if Belichick grabbed him instead of the former.

    Point is, Abdul Carter, specifically, is a beast. The Giants defense is a fucking horror show. Their vets were cheering firing the coach. Hunter was a lame pick to begin with so, whatever on that. Cam Ward, could he be good in a better situation?

    Anywho, I am so glad the Pats got Campbell. He is a fuckin stud.

  20. I think my bias for Will is hard to get past, but Carter and Hunter are no slouches. I think with Vrabel either of those would be great as well. Fortunately for us, WR, CB AND LB are all playing great so we absolutely needed Big Country.

    I feel bad for Titans fans though. Ward does not look like the answer. Even on a poorly coached team last year we could see flashes of Drake Drake Maye Maye.

  21. I’m so happy we have Campbell & really wouldn’t have it any other way if the draft happened again.

    Irrelevant rant to the Pats incoming:

    I still think Travis Hunter is an elite player & has JJ level talent. The Jags management is just way too young. They have no idea what they’re doing with him. Between trading a haul to get him & then giving in to his desire to play both ways out of the gate, they really fucked that situation up as much as they could.

    As great as I think he is, only a QB that you absolutely love is worth giving up a haul for (panthers aside, it’s gotta be for a prospect like Caleb or Maye). And then to believe that he would be able to adjust to the NFL while playing both positions is just foolish. He should’ve been a WR out of the gate & only that. Then the following year give him some reps on the other side of the ball.

    He looked incredible when they finally started focusing on him playing WR. He should’ve been doing that from the start.

  22. Im glad we weren’t in the position to take Carter.

    He seems to be a problem off the field already.

  24. I love taking boring picks in the first round. Usually you look back 6 months later and are very grateful. Delayed gratification.

  25. I’d like to preface what I’m about to say with Campbell is obviously the best out of these picks shown.

    Ward is on a terrible team and has still shown promise, especially against the Seahawks.

    Did we really expect Jacksonville to utilize Hunter perfectly? Not at all.

    Carter has actually been good and being late for meetings isnt the worst thing in the world, depending on why he was late.

    Graham hasn’t been talked about at all but is getting enough attention for Garrett to possibly get the sack record this week against the Titans.

    Jeanty is behind the worst OL in football right now and has shown flashes.

    All of them still have the talent to do well in the league, Will has just been the most apparent upgrade out of all of them.

  27. Thrilled with the Campbell pick but I see TMac cooking in Carolina and truly wonder if theres ever a way we can get an elite guy like that without sucking again

  28. I remember this sub was distraught we missed out on Hunter and Carter, both of them have been disappointing so far

  29. I could have cared less about not getting Hunter. Didn’t pass the eye test for me. Jax was insane to give up what they did. I was sweating not getting Carter hard though and cursing Mayo. Sometimes things work out though.

  30. I like Will Campbell but I wonder if Membou won’t have a better career. Time will tell.

  31. 1) Ward: Struggling hard and doing worse then Levis did in the same position

    2) Hunter: Looked ok, not second pick good

    3) Carter: Looks like a potential bust not because of skill

    4) Campbell: Franchises Left Tackle for years to come

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