JJ Watt ADDRESSES THE DRAMA over social media debate with Greg Olsen 👀 | The Pat McAfee Show

JJ Watt ADDRESSES THE DRAMA over social media debate with Greg Olsen 👀 | The Pat McAfee Show

He is a future first ballot professional football hall of famer. He’s already in the bull ring of honor. He’s an incredibly non-biased commentator for CBS currently. Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Wall Connor, I would be happy to have you as my special teams quality control grabbing the coffee intern. That would be great to have you on staff. Okay. Once again, yeah, the price starts at 3 million. So, if that’s what those coaches make, that’s where I would like to enter. But again, we can negotiate that two and a half with a lot of maybe a house, you know, like we we can go and kind of discuss that depends on how many cookies they sell in Pennsylvania. What is that? I don’t know. You’re talking about I mean $3 million for a coffee getter. We need We’re going to need a lot of big bags. Well, yeah. But he already told you what his price is. You’re the one that gave him the job. I don’t know what AQ’s giving. Well, what are you are you um tough to get when you’re Are you throwing your name into the into the bag here? Because you could make five, six, seven million a year. I I think obviously if they were to get a huge name, they get a huge name. It’s like what 10 million is the the price is basically what coaches are getting paid. So at Penn State at this stage, I think they lose a lot of leverage. Probably a new head coach for college is what we’re thinking probably at this point unless that rumor about the Alabama Kin Dor situation is anywhere near real, which we don’t know, but that would be crazy if he was to do that. So it’s probably somewhere between Kelly. How do you how do you feel about it? Do you think he would be a winner up there in Penn State? What do you think? I mean, I I don’t I don’t know what the pool looks like. I There is First of all, you’re creating one. You are maybe in it. Well, then then yeah, then then check. He’s a He’s a head coach that first qualification made. He is a head coach who could do the job. Um no, college football has kind of lost me. Uh it’s it’s I’m kind of with everybody, man. It’s it’s uh there’s not not because players are getting paid. I think that’s absolutely right. I think uh you No, you bring us in, don’t worry. But it’s just there’s just it’s they got to figure it out, man. Just figure it out. Like you can’t you can’t be trying to get a national championship and have a chance to actually do it and then leave for a chance at national championship. It’s like, oh, that’s pretty wild. I don’t know. Just figure it out. Yeah, it doesn’t make much sense. You know, uh the calendar is insane. Uh head coach Joey Magcguire from Texas Tech who announced an extension immediately upon getting off of our show yesterday. Could have been cool to leak that one just about 10 minutes earlier whenever he was talking to us. But we are happy for him. Coach Signetti, same thing happened to him. Uh whenever he was on the show, about 10 minutes after he got off the show, announced a mega signing for another deal. Also, Coach Rule, Coach Matt Rule got an extension about 10 minutes after uh he came on our show. So, that was a good announcement. So, JJ, what we’re saying is you could potentially get a massive deal with Penn State if you wanted to give your 10 minutes from now. Could be 10 minutes from now, guys. You have no idea. If I do, I’ll call back. I’ll let you know. Just Thank you. I mean, we had a coach on this show that got signed to be a senior assistant in the NFL and didn’t even find out through somebody else’s tweet. It was like, could I have got a heads up, baby? Could I could I have got like a heads up before reading this on there? Listen, I didn’t know if I was going to It was a conversation. It was uh I didn’t make my decision. Yes. The old school guys are different. Yeah. We’re in the new age. Everything leaks out a little early. Old school, they wait till the ink is dry. No, I also think the old school guys say it. Somebody’s leaking this, right? Yeah. Shaft is going to do it. Got it. All right, we’ll just let him do that entire thing. Old school games because Chuck Chuck is in the booth next door and he just knocks on the windows. JJ, we give a little head. He’s He’s great. He’s got such good energy. Obviously a legend. This year is not going how we thought it would go for Baltimore. I don’t think how Baltimore thought it would be going for Baltimore. But let’s pivot to another team in the AFC that just got a huge win. Okay, just got a huge win this past weekend. I don’t know if you saw on Monday, people on the internet were making despicable images. They had uh Lucas Oil Stadium and then they were putting they were calling it the Straoud House. Okay. Which it’s called the Loud House. You heard it when you were in there. What was your take away from the game as you were calling it? And uh I feel like the Colts are in trouble and I love the Colts and I will be at the games. I’ll be supporting the Colts, but 40% of our offense, I think 35% of our offense maybe is really dependent upon at least the threat that Danny Dimes could run. And now we’re at the point with this fractured fibia that he can’t really move much. Now Houston’s defense is remarkable, but I am very worried about this Colts offense, which has been a wagon for us going forward into the most important games as we have a very tough stretch. And on the flip side, feels like Houston, CJ, that defense maybe clicking at the right time. What What is your takeaway from the game? Yeah. Uh, first of all, it was really cool to see you and McKenzie there get going crazy in the in the suite. That was very sweet to see uh up close and personal from the booth. The loud house. Um there were definitely moments where it it got loud and they were into it. Uh I think the loudest was the booze. I mean certainly there were a couple calls that you know everybody knows were were difficult calls and the fans let them know. So that was definitely loud. Um but the Colts offense it’s it’s so clear right now that if Jonathan Taylor does not carry this offense, they will not win the games. That is just what you are seeing play out in real time. It’s when he has over 90 yards rushing, they’re six and0. When he doesn’t, I think it’s two and four. Um it’s just any stat, any way you want to slice it. If he does not run the ball well, they don’t win. They can’t do what they want to do. And it all comes down to first down. Shane Stiken will tell you that. Daniel Jones will tell you that. If they can’t keep their playbook wide open, if they can’t run their RPOS’s, if they can’t run their play action pass game, their screen games to Tyler Warren, if they can’t keep the defense off balance, they are not successful right now. And that’s the truth. And yes, Daniel Jones has the fibula or whatever it may be. Um, but I don’t think that that fully explains where the RPO game has gone to keep the linebackers off the line of scrimmage, to keep Jonathan Taylor’s lanes open. Um, so they they I mean three of four is tough and they’re dealing with that right now both mentally and trying to find a way to win. Wall Sauce is now out for a little while before Buckner is still out. Um, this is a massive massive game. I mean technically the Jaguars are in first place in the AFC South right now and the Colts have the hardest remaining strength of schedule in the whole NFL. So they have to go into Jacksonville and win this game. I just learned that. I I mean I looked at it and I said that looks really hard. I I didn’t look at everybody else’s road. We do have the most difficult path uh down the stretch here. Is that what you just said? I believe that’s what I was reading in my notes this morning. Yes. I believe you have the technically hardest strength of schedule and the stats for the Colts verse teams that are currently over 500 and teams that are currently under 500. Don’t need to hear is not uh not great. Thank you, J. Let’s move to Houston. Uh let’s move to the Houston Texans. Team above 500 and certainly looking good. CJ made some throws that reminded me of like very good CJ. That is certainly possible out there on the offensive side. Colin seemingly available. Offense had some misdirection stuff and we have a couple injuries obviously which is not great, but I thought CJ looked good. I thought the Texans offense looked good as well. What’s your takeaway on where the Houston Texans can go this year? Yeah, I mean I think CJ, he said it himself. Demo said it himself that he’s still knocking off some rust and there’s a couple throws obviously that interception that he’ll want to have back, but overall they ran it well. Uh they got in down in the red zone which they have struggled with all year long before CJ during that three-game Davis Mills stretch. They started to figure it out and I think they’re continuing that down there in the red zone. Um but the defense like the defense is unbelievable. I mean you got to see it up close and personal. It’s just the speed and the violence and the intensity that they play with and you look at it. They don’t even do anything that crazy schematically. I mean, they had a couple cool things drawn up this week where they had Will Anderson off the ball over the center and he just kind of ran straight down the tracks. Um, but other than that, like Derek Stingley’s unbelievable. Kamari Lacader, Aziz, like these guys, they just fly around and Matt Burke has that defense humming. So, it’s very, very tough. I mean, the Colts had not scored under 20 points all year long as the most potent offense in the NFL, and the Texans hold them to 16. Now again, I I’m I very rarely am going to bring up refs in a game cuz obviously the Texans had some too. They had a uncatchable ball and a pass interference that certainly who says it’s uncatchable. You say it’s uncatchable. I’ve seen Michael Pitman go up and get something like it. I I don’t disagree. I think the angles on that are interesting one camera angle that the ball lands in a garbage can 15 yards where we were sitting. Yeah, we had a good angle on that definitely not being catchable. But Bill Bich has told us, I think at the draft, that the NFL feels very terrible saying something’s not catchable because then we show some highlights of guys making catches and somebody’s like, “So you’re telling me that maybe he couldn’t get it?” So what they’re saying is that thing has to go into the stands basically for it to be not catchable, which that one almost did. That one almost did to be clear. I do have to give credit here because we I mean the pass interference, the delay of game, and the field goal that went or the extra point that went over the upright. uh we brought in Jean Sarur and it’s very difficult for these rules analysts to come on here and and say that a call was wrong because those are their officials brethren like those are the guys they’ve been out there they know how hard this is they know how hard that job is and so for Gan to come on with us and be honest and open about what he was seeing was great and I very much appreciate it because I think it does help us in the honesty and trust with the viewers that we’re just calling like we see it. I mean that extra point like in the moment it was just an honest reaction of whoa how did they call that good uh and then you try and slow it down and try and explain all the angles and everything but I I get it the ref’s looking up directly at it so he saw something there u but at in the moment live on TV for us it was that was tight well especially with the timing of it all to your point I mean the delay of game non call into the phantom pass interference into the touchdown into the missed extra point you call good it’s like those are three calls all wrong in a series of like four different plays that lead to them scoring a touchdown and taking a huge lead uh in the fourth quarter. Yeah. So that’s why you heard the stadium and Shane Stiken. It was just non-stop. I mean it was through the commercial break. It was through the next stop. It was an entire thing. I was actually pretty proud of the Loud House. I was like hell yes. This this is what it’s supposed to do. This is what you’re supposed to do to these people. And now the refs say we’re humans and yada yada. It’s like well you got I love that stadium, man. It’s a great stadium. Everybody in Indianapolis is awesome. I mean, they had a great little the Chamber of Commerce or whatever it is. I assume it was you sending it. Uh, no, no, they’re a good group of people though. Visit Indy’s good group of people. They’re good. They are. I mean, I had I had stuff for KA and Nico in the hotel room when I got there. Everybody there is phenomenal. But there is a guy I don’t know if you know this. I I and Eagle knew this and I didn’t. So, maybe it’s just common knowledge and I wasn’t aware. There is a man downtown Indianapolis that plays drums on a bucket non-stop all day forever. Yeah. Well, I don’t know if it’s all day forever, but yes, there is a bucket drummer downtown who has made a lot of money off of, you know, uh what’s it called? Um busking. Busking or whatever. Yeah, I he has gotten plenty of drunk money from me, I will say. But uh it’s not all day every day. I mean, he takes a break, I think, whenever there’s not a lot going on. I mean, I I my hotel room was in direct earshot of him and I don’t know if there were breaks. I didn’t catch many of them uh until midnight after when I was watching the Cal SMU game and saw that was a wild ending there. But, uh yeah, I was I was up late thanks to him and I got to watch college football that I had not been planning on watching. Hey, shout out to him. Shout to you watching more ball. It’s good for your soul. And uh I I feel like you probably got a lot more information through a little bit of uh heated exchange. Let’s go to the tail of the tape, please, can we? Um Oh, this is good. So, this is Walk versus Olsen. Yeah. 40 and 36 years of age. Uh 6’5, 6’6, 255, 288. Is that accurate weight for you? Uh no, not now. Now I’m like 272. Okay. Not to be too exact. I’m on a scale. 272. Greg might be a little slimmer, too. So maybe 235 to 272 right now. Whatever the case, a little bit more ripped. Three Pro Bowls, five Pro Bowls, player of the year, three of them. Super Bowl appearances, one uh opinions on stats. Loves them, likes them. Okay, so let’s go ahead and uh let’s get into this a little bit. Okay, Greg Olsen is talking about the modern world with the modern information that we have with modern strategy. And I think what you saw, what a lot of people saw is him saying it’s not debatable at all. Okay. And then you auto automatically come in like okay analytically it’s absolutely correct but let me debate you here now this obviously spurred a massive amount of conversation which stats and football people have been happening over the last few years. Where do you stand on all of it right now? And uh how is the timeline or the mentions since all this has started? I mean I the the thing that’s funny about this is that I agree with his stance. Like I the analytics and the stats do tell you that I am saying that that is absolutely correct. All I’m saying is that there are people who offer counterpoints to that. So I I think the non-debatable part is the part now an numberswise analytically sure if you can you can say that the numbers prove provide no debate. You cannot debate the math of it. All right that’s fine. But I’m just telling you, the reason that I put that out there was because there’s obviously a massive faction of the fan base in the NFL that would like to debate that or at least offer a counterpoint as to why. And that’s all I was doing. I’m not It’s just, you know, the analytics and everything while maybe 100% accurate and factual, it’s 100% hard. That’s the issue is it’s not 100%. So nothing is 100%. So therefore, it is debatable. And even something that is 100% that maybe we think could become a nonund% it is debatable. I think that’s what you’re thinking about. And the stats people and you know stats obviously have been involved in the real world for a long time from what I’ve been uh told now. It’s happening in sports media coverage. And the stats people have a natural instinct because they’ve been taught this and this is how their brain functions that the stat is the end all be all. But every side has a stat somehow. I I’ve realized that every side can pull a stat that makes their argument better, no matter what it is. So, it can’t be the end all beall ever, which is what got everybody pissed off is when Greg Olsen says, “This ain’t debatable.” It’s like, “Greg, are you doing that?” Because humans and momentum and vibe and everything matter like that matters in real life. In theory, it doesn’t. In numbers, it doesn’t. But Greg, you know, in real life that matters. So that’s why I think everybody kind of got mad at Greg like Greg you can’t be this this can’t be who you are because you know the humans matter. But on that note, the stats people have added a lot of information for us. Go ahead JJ. Yeah. And I agree like on a broadcast you should at least mention why they’re going for two there and that the numbers support it and that the analytics support it as well. But I also think that you can mention the opposite side of it and what fans at home might be thinking in that moment and the emotion and the adrenaline of a game etc. I mean, at the end of the first half of the Colts Texans game this this week, the Texans decided basically that they weren’t going to push down there for points and instead were just going to kind of settle and ended up getting nothing out of it. When they had the ball with like a minute and 38 seconds left in two timeouts, they very and they got a successful play on first down. They very easily could have pushed the ball down the field. And I discussed that on the air as to why I believe that that would be the right thing to do to move the ball down the field, try and get points because of everything in this game and how much you trust your defense. Demo Ryan believes that that’s not what he wanted to do. He wanted to play it safe and conservative, trusting his defense and going into the half on a more safe note. He said as much at halftime to Evan Washurn. That’s fine. We disagreed with how we saw that and ultimately he went his way. But like to to to for me to stand up there and say this is the only way possible to do it. I mean, come on. Like, there’s a billion different ways things can go down and there’s a billion different reasons why people do things. But we would like to let Greg Olson know we love him. Oh, yeah. Like, love Greg Olsson. We Greg Olsson, we love you. We appreciate what you’ve done for ball. Let’s not forget that you’re a ball person, though. Okay. This isn’t video game. This is human. Yeah, nerds are getting to them, man. No, no. The nerds are good. The nerds are good sometimes. Well, I guess anybody can be good sometimes. So, it’s not just a nerds thing. But nerds are good. They have been good for football, I think, and good for the sports world. And some people suck all the time. It’s a good point, too. Like who? Yeah, you’re right. There are some There’s no need to pause. He educates a lot of people. I learn from Greg. Good stuff. Yeah, he does a lot of great stuff. But we saw that tweet and we’re like, Greg, come on. Yeah. If you if you end it with the not debatable, just mute the tweet and then have everybody else debate and then you you just started a great conversation. you didn’t even I did see that he was responding so therefore there was debates happening so it was technically I guess debatable is what people it was an Ipso facto situation but we would like to let Greg know we love him and we think he’s incredible in the booth and we’re he was part of my retirement video that’s right so I love Greg Olsen former team but we see this exact for debut down there in Carolina so we read this tweet and we’re like greg Greg momentum’s real too Greg don’t even tell me it’s not I don’t need you to because that’s what the stats They got numbers for that though. They got numbers for that. What’s that? They they got numbers for momentum. They There’s no They say they say momentum is not real. Does not exist. Well, no. On they they have Okay. They have numbers. I I They presented me with them and I read it all. I I read it all cuz I want to educate myself. Maybe I’m messed up. No, cuz you want you read. Yeah. Go ahead. They have numbers for what happens to an offense after in each situation. Do they perform better with more pressure on them or do they perform not as well? Like they have a number for every single thing that you want to try and throw back at them, which is great. That’s fine. That’s good. You and I, we’ve all been on a sideline. We know what it feels like on a sideline. We know what it’s like in the locker room. We know that you could present us with every number, reasoning, rationale in the entire world for why a decision is the right decision and the wrong decision and still not get it through to us. And it still won’t matter in the heat of battle on the moment on the sidelines. So humans we’re human the humans are doing this and these these numbers are coming from humans and yes you can look back on a thousand outcomes and say that but each individual situation is situational. I mean that is that is an actual thing that is just kind of the difference between in theory and reality and that’s kind of in everything not just in sports. So we would like to tell the stats people like we appreciate what you’re doing but that’s theory. Everything you’re operating in is theory because of outcome prediction. This is reality is what we’re telling you. Can have really good insight on this, but each reality is its own thing. You might have uh for just my position, you know, kicking, putting, there was games out there during seasons in which I made Pro Bowls in which you didn’t see me hit uh many shanks at all where I thought every time I was going on the field, I was going to hit a shank. Imagine if I hit two shanks, give a short field to the other team. What’s the stats on our team winning or losing? and I’m just one tiny piece of the the entire puzzle, let alone like everybody else having a good day or bad day at positions that matter, you know, as opposed to what stats are telling you. So, we’re just trying to say, let’s leave it. The thing is, I know I don’t know all the answers. I know I don’t have them all. All I’m going to do on the broadcast is try and present to you the options and we’ll all watch it together and see what happens. You have a good energy in that booth. Yeah, it does feel like you’re having a good time, which we love. Don’t get jaded in there, JJ. Even if stats people are trying to take you down now, you can be generous. Nice booth in Indie. Halftime food. Very good in Indie. Very good. They had shrimp with St. Elmo’s sauce. Phenomenal. And then did not see this coming. Barbecue board. Phenomenal. There was sausage. There was brisket. There was burnt ends there. I mean, it was fantastic. Ltheathered in sauce. Not the best thing to eat while wearing a suit before going back on the air, but didn’t stop me, brother. So, Indianapolis uh Indianapolis appreciates everybody coming through here. You know, you talked about visit indie people leaving stuff. I assume like the Indianapolis Sports Corp Corp or whatever also a part of that like very much love ball and sports here and very much set up to host it. You know, hotels very easy and close. All the restaurants and [ __ ] are all in the same area. The arena’s here, the stadium’s here. like we are and the city loves ball. Like that is they’re trying their best. So I appreciate hearing that from you and no, it wasn’t a gift from me. I want to leave you a bag of flaming poop at your door again this week. So you’ll be able to watch it. You’ll be able to watch it on Sunday. I got them at the Jags this weekend. Going to be a good one. Very good one. Jags run defense. Phenomenal. Oh no. Who? For Jacksonville. Jacksonville has not allowed a rusher over 70 yards this entire season. What was the stat you said about the Colts? Yes. Perfect. The Colts when Jonathan Taylor rushes for 90 or more, they’re 6 and0. Yes. This is like a unstoppable force, immovable object 2.0 because that’s what Houston was this last week. You said Jonathan Taylor versus the Jags run defense. Yeah, but you said that it doesn’t the injury doesn’t make up for all that. You don’t think there being zero fear of Danny Dimes keeping and running off the edge does anything to help Jonathan Taylor front? I think it certainly helps. Yes. Okay. Thank you. make sure I’m not on side here with slants and inb breakers and everything behind behind to to help open it up. I mean, it’s and also it’s tough when the game goes a certain way and obviously Jonathan Taylor’s going to rack up yards when and then it’s the fourth quarter and he gets to add. Sorry, there’s some breaking news in the college football world that just popped on my screen here. Uh Ohio State committ Chris Henry Jr. has not sent in his paperwork to Ohio State yet. Oh jeez. He’s weighing options according to him at both Oregon and USC. This isn’t a money thing. This is clearly a Brian Hartline thing. He wants to make sure he makes the right decision. Says, Tom Lloyd 247. Oh no. Oh [ __ ] Holy [ __ ] Developing story. Let’s go to Hammer D. AP Tone. Now he’s weighing his options. He was out there in the West Coast Matter Day. USC obviously giving their pitch. Oregon as well. And uh we know Oregon can keep up with anybody. I don’t know about USC. Yeah, I think it’s very interesting because they said not moneywise. And I kind of believe that because Hart Line is leaving for USF obviously and then Oregon just lost their offensive coordinator to Kentucky. The only one without changes on the offensive side of the ball, huge offensive side of the ball, uh is USC, who currently has the number one uh ranked recruiting class in the country, the first time in 18 years it hasn’t been an SEC team. Oh [ __ ] Okay, good stat. They do. They already got a a uh Ohio State commit to Yes, they flipped flipped one today already. They did. And now they want another. Uhoh. And he’s been pipeline gets a ton of credit. I still don’t know if it’s enough credit. It is just absurd what that guy did. Pipeline. And he’s great at recruiting Florida and now he’s going to USF. Feels like that. He, no offense, USF. Okay. We had good battles with USF. I respect USF. I love what USF’s about. Feels like we’re one year, two years away from him having the situation pop up with massive school somewhere. Bama, who knows? Bam. Every year there’s going to be a massive one open it feels like going forward, which is why like Lane, do you need to go now? And then Lane’s like, yeah, this is the one um to get every year there seemingly one of those. That’s big news out of college ball. Chris Henry Jr. is a guy. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. It’s got the he’s Chris Henry. So, and he’s 66 or something. Where did you come down on Lane on them either letting or not letting Lane coach the games for LSU? I never So this is a theory reality thing again, you know, which we do a lot of in theory it because we in day-to-day sports get dunked on a lot because we have to deal with theory and reality, right? We’re trying to project what the future is while what’s happening right now. So I think we kind of get exposed to the you look like a doofus for saying this. this is not real life on a more regular basis than maybe other people. So I think like Herb Street Sabin I think a lot of the people that were saying he should be allowed to coach his team. He recruited that team. He built that team. They’ve had the best year. Like in theory in a movie that’s really good. Like that is a really good thing. Signing days happening right now. Okay. So this is early signing days taking place. Transfer portals in the middle of the playoff run. So LSU, which I assume LSU would have been good with him coaching Miss is kind of been the convers. I don’t think LSU wants him to be focusing on Miss either. He wants him focusing on transfer portal signing day and LSU as a whole. And Miss, you got to get recruits in here and potential transfer portal guys. And they potentially see the building or talk to the building and it’s Lane that’s running the building. He’s in the office of the head co. It’s like a I just don’t think I don’t think it would have ever been a good situation. So, I didn’t think it was ever going to happen. Now, in theory though, good movie story. Guy six years, turns it around, does this whole thing, gets offered this dream job. He needs to stay with his team and [ __ ] like that. Like, that’s the angle that they’re going from. But like, in reality, I with the way signing day is with transfer portal and with the amount of tension and storyline that’s on all these college football playoff teams, it’s like in reality, I don’t think it would have ever been good for anybody. Like, I think it would have just been would have not been great. So, I didn’t think it was ever going to be able to happen. It’s in the same conference and it’s like it’s it’s not like like like I look at uh summer going from two lane to Florida. Like that’s two lane is a great program, but that’s clearly going from one level to a different level. That’s just a fact. Okay. Like Miss to LSU. Miss is in the same conference and currently going to be in the playoff and the team he’s going to is not. So, like the fact that it’s like I I completely understand why you like I I do not understand how it was even a possibility of disgust. I just I can’t I don’t even I understand everything he built it and everything, but to leave and then want to stay to coach it, I that was just crazy. It never made a lot of sense to me either. But there was I think there’s people that are pulling for like that those are his boys. Like they, you know, did the training camp together and blood, sweat, and tears together, then stay with them. That’s it. Like that that that’s the option. Well, but those boys can go with him. So, that’s kind of the part of the which LSU or Miss was saying like, “Okay, so now you guys are going to go through a playoff run.” And what at the beginning of every game, you could potentially say, “Remember boys, this is happening in a new place next year. Let’s go.” And like just all of it never really went. Have my cake and eat it too. It’s great. Which I never really understood that. So, so people were getting cake and then they weren’t eating it. They were just allowed to look at it. So, then they were at one point somebody was like, “You’re actually allowed to eat it too.” And they’re like, “Whoa, what an asshole.” I I don’t really understand how that all came about, but no, you have a plate of cake. You either eat the cake and it’s gone or you have the cake and don’t get to eat it. Those are the only two options. You can’t have a piece of cake and also eat that piece of cake. Okay? Now, if you have multiple pieces of cake, then you have options. But if you only have one piece of cake, you can’t have it and eat it, too. Okay? And you can’t have two cakes in this situation, which is what he was trying to do. He was trying to eat some cake down there at LSU. double fisted cake. Double fisted while holding this cake still, which he already nibbled off of. Mhm. Already nibbled off for six years he’d been nibbling on this one. Now he’s got a new one over was never going to work. How do you keep everything balanced? You don’t have enough plates or forks. Can’t do it. Oh, he’s a yogi, so he’s pretty good in balance. Well, you’re right. Let’s talk about forks and spoons and soup. Let’s talk about the Pittsburgh Steelers. Uh AQ Shipley has a question for you, Jage. All right, JJ. Pittsburgh Steelers. When I came up, when I grew up, it was the standard was you can’t let a running back run for over 100 yards. This week, they ran the same play. It wasn’t creative. It was two tight ends downhill runs over and over and over for 250 yards. What’s going on in Pittsburgh? Yeah, unprecedented. I mean, this it it was I trust me, I I landed at home and I turned on the I checked the score and I looked at the box score and I was like, “Holy [ __ ] What happened?” Yeah. And then you like then I found out that it was duo just over and over and over and over and over and over and over and it’s like no you guys couldn’t figure it out like nobody nobody figured out like hey maybe we So I mean there’s some gap integrity issues there’s some tackling issues there’s all sorts of different things there. Um, and clearly, I mean, you listen to the comments from the locker room after the game and there’s they got to figure it out. And it’s I mean, they’re sitting there and it’s kind of one of those situations where them and Baltimore this weekend, they’re both tied for first in the division. And so, whoever wins this one is actually going to be sitting in a pretty good spot, but I’m not sure either of them actually feels all that good about where they are right now. And Pittsburgh just seems like the same situation year after year after year. For some reason, the offense can’t quite get it going. The defense hasn’t been performing that well. They’re either feast or famine. That’s just kind of what it is. It feels like every single game they’re waiting for one massive play to split the entire game. And if that doesn’t happen, then they really, really struggle. Ben Rothosberger was on football and he said, “I’m just kind of spitballing here. Maybe Tomlin just goes and be the head coach of Penn State. Maybe he gets a new fresh start.” And I think his name was floated for USC a couple years ago. And he talks about how he has You think he wants to go do recruiting LSU? It was LSU. Okay. So, a couple years ago it was LSU, I guess, which was being described as the best job in college at that point because that’s how Tomlin’s name was even mentioned. It’s like, do you think Mike Tomlin with the amount of years without a playoff victory with how the fans have starting to kind of soil turn and everything like that, would he want to take this massive job in college? Then he got in a press conference said, “I have the best job in football.” I’m the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. and he walked off and I kind of put it to bed. But now it’s really loud. It seems louder than ever about this entire situation. More stats are getting thrown out and Ben Rothosberger was like, “Everybody’s talking about the Steelers fans wanting a refresh and a reset.” It might be good for Tomlin to get a reset as well. And then he just threw out the Penn State job because he’s in Pittsburgh around a bunch of them. And there was some people saying why would he ever say Tomman wants to go to Penn State. And it sucks that that’s how people are viewing Penn State by the way. Penn State is just like uh I don’t think Penn State people love that they are being talked. You guys are being talked about as if you were too late. Well, no. Why would anybody want to go to college over the NFL? Like, if you’re an NFL head coach, there is no reason why you would rather be a college football head coach. Who do you think potentially could be good at Penn State you just thought of? I mean, it just feels as though everything’s going south in Vegas and that uh Pete Carol is going to get fired and he would be perfect at Penn State. Now, we got to wait till February to get the get the head coach, which would be pretty late in the entire cycle there. They’re already there. They’re already there. We already missed the day. It’s too late. Oh, there’s transfer portal coming in. The big one’s a transfer portal that’s coming up. Can’t hire an 85year-old. You might as well hire Joe Paul. Thank you. They would if they could. They’re going to They’re going to end up getting a guy like Matt Campbell from Iowa State who is a good coach, but who people at Penn State will go apehit and be like, “This is the guy we waited to hire.” Like, I that’s that’s where they’ll give him an extension. It’s Campbell or Braum or Dball or Matt Naggie. I still think Matt Naggie is a Kelly free agent. All right. Um, let’s go to back to the Pittsburgh Steelers. They might have figured it out, though. Adam Thelen has signed with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Congratulations to the Demon, Adam Thelen. That’s what they’re calling him on the internet. And, uh, you know, there was a tweet from a few days back that said, uh, Mike Tomlin will say something like, “We can’t eat soup with forks. We need spoons. Then the Steelers will sign a 2018 Pro Bowler to the practice squad.” Well, we don’t know if the Demon Thelen’s on the practice squad or not, but we didn’t hear the spoon and fork with the soup line. Could be on the way. It’s a great metaphor actually. And also Tomman would say something exactly like that. But we know this guy was a monster in 2018. I mean, an absolute demon in 2019. There’s a chance Adam Thieling gets a resurgence out there with Aaron Rogers, one of his really close friends. Obviously, they’re golfing friends. And uh the Pittsburgh Steelers are making yet another play as the Minnesota Vikings say, “Yeah, Adam, you can go finish your your career somewhere else if you want to.” Now, let’s pivot away from them. Let’s talk about a couple teams that are real. Go ahead, Debb. Yeah. Talking about teams with fresh starts, new head coaches. Verable first year in New England. Ben Johnson, first year in Chicago. Both young quarterbacks. Going to week 14 now, Pat. So, obviously on a bye-week, but going to week 14, both of these guys on top of their respective conferences. How do you feel about the team right now? and kind of I guess what’s your trust level and confidence level in these both teams making a real run in the playoffs? I think it speaks to what a great head coach can do for a team with the requisite roster to start with. You obviously have to have a certain talent level to be able to start with. But these two coaches have come in and done a phenomenal job with their new teams. I mean, I’ve talked about Ben Johnson multiple times, but just the things that he does and how blunt and honest he is about correcting issues that are wrong. This week, he talked about the passing game. If you go back to their by-eek, he talked about fixing their running game. And ever since that bye-week, their running game has been on fire. Uh, it’s been unbelievable. So, now he’s talked about fixing their passing game. And you would imagine when he says something, he’s going to get it fixed because that’s what we’ve seen before. Just his players respect it. And not only is he fixing things, he’s doing it while winning. Like they are in first place in the NFC. That’s the Chicago Bears who last year had a complete collapse and fell apart. He came in and has done this and he hasn’t even had that full second off season to do everything he wants to do. So I think the sky’s is the limit there when he continues to get Caleb to develop. And then Vrabel up in New England has obviously done an unbelievable job. I think everybody knows he’s a great football coach. Um I I would imagine that there’s some people in Tennessee wishing that they hadn’t let him out of that building. Um because of what he is able to do. It’s just they’re they’re good. Obvious everybody points to their schedule. You can only play who you can play who like that’s you just play and win and go out there and do what you do. Um he’s he’s a great coach and he’s disciplined and he teaches these guys how to play hard. He talks I loved his answer about that hit when Jackson Dart was going out of bounds and Ellis laid the hit on him and he was like I I we show our guys every single week. We show Drake May the plays of other quarterbacks getting hit and we tell them if you stay in bounds you’re going to get hit. That’s football and I love that and I think that the players love playing for a coach that says stuff like that and publicly goes out there and defends them. Phenomenal. Hey, real quick on the run game because we talked about if you put those clips up real Foxy with the Chicago Bears run game. How does the impact that Caleb Williams like the fake play action him rolling out holding that fake? How does that impact the D line? Yeah, you see 50 Phillips right there on the edge. He has to stay out there that extra second because you know what Ca Caleb is capable of. You see him take that tiny little jab step up the field like a just in case. Did he keep it? Um because Caleb can do anything and that’s what Ben Johnson has done best with the Bears in my personal opinion. He knows that their passing game isn’t where it needs to be right now. So he has schemed up that entire offense to minimize the negative impact the passing game can have. And if you look at what Detroit’s run game is whenever they have bad days and you watch what Ben Johnson does in Chicago, it’s like tell you what, man. Maybe that guy did do it all. All right, we appreciate the hell out of you. That was great. That’s JJ Watt. We’ll see you on the other side. Yeah. Heat. [Music] [Applause] [Music]

Former Houston Texans DE and current CBS NFL Analyst JJ Watt joins The Pat McAfee Show ahead of Week 14.

0:00 Welcome to Watt Wednesday!
2:46 College coaches extending
4:21 Talking Indianapolis Colts
8:05 C.J. Stroud returns & the Houston Texans keep winning!
11:12 The icon in downtown Indianapolis
12:27 JJ vs. Greg Olsen
21:29 Interesting stats
22:21 Signing day drama
25:26 Thoughts on Lane Kiffin
28:32 Pittsburgh Steelers talk

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