I’m confused on how I’m supposed to read this. Am I looking at this from his POV, so upper field is really the offensive backfield?
How do people not know that TJ has some strong preferences in how he rushes. He has moves he cant do from one side vs the other.
Bud Dupree was so good at this. Being disruptive and forcing QBs to step up and get sacked by others like TJ or Cam or forcing QBs to rush their throw to get intercepted by others like Minkah Fitzpatrick.
TJ refuses to be moved arahnd, and Tomlin always let’s his biggest stars have their way.
Earlier in the season for the first 3 games the teams we faced didn’t run to watts direction a single time. And we did nothing with that
Move him around, but this shows that 70% of Hutch’s pressures came from the one side.
He should have just stayed on that side, because it looks like he was being handled well on the other side.
TJ would also be more effective if the opposing QB wasn’t able to easily get the ball out to their initial read in around 2 seconds.
That was the entire point of revamping the secondary — to give the pass rushers extra time to work.
Hutch better than TJ confirmed. Sack record means diddly if you can’t do anything else
He’s 31. If this was in his tool bag, it probably would’ve happened by now.
they’re different players. tj is at his best when he can study one matchup all week, learn the guy’s tendencies in and out, and then approach the live game like a chess game, feeling things out and setting up for killshots on high leverage downs. that’s how he always seems to make the biggest play at the most important moment
teams seem to have finally figured out how to slow him down meaningfully by chipping him off his track as the tackle sets deep, but that’s something they can do equally of the left or right. moving tj is not an instant fix because it makes him worse. however, i think between herbig highsmith and sawyer we might have enough juice that moving *them* around more makes enough sense to offset that.
One half TJ, one half Tomlin. Rushing from the same spot every time and getting no results is a collosal waste of 40 million.
Standard is the standard
This ship has sailed. Nobody is taking on his contract now. The time to move him was 2 years ago , now he’s just another guy. Same with Tomlin, every years his value drops. We could have snagged at least a 1 and a 2 for TJ over the summer. It sounds like Chicago was willing to deal a couple 1’s for Tomlin. Totally could have rebuilt and quickly.
Two reasons for this.
Cowboys had in a backup left tackle, so this was part of the game plan. Which is something Tomlin is either unwilling or incapable of doing. That is the reason the majority of his pressures came on that left side
Secondly, its obvious Watt is not able to move around and be effective. They talked about moving him around the line in the off-season, even Watt commented on it, but it has not happened, which means it doesnt work.
It’s not going to happen.
That would take innovation and creativity, two things severely lacking with scheming on this team for many years.
Also on top of what everyone else said. TJ very clearly as a player doesn’t want to move. He has his own game he likes to play, and that’s fine especially if moving him just makes him worse
Moving him around isn’t going to fix the main issue, which is the main trait that set him apart during his prime (his explosive get-off speed) has been sapped with age and injuries.
He’s still capable of occasional massive game-changing plays (such as the end zone FF) but he’s simply not a consistently dominant player at this stage of his career. The problem is we’re paying him 2nd highest DEF money ever and the extension of that hasn’t even kicked in yet.
Narrator: but the would not
I think the problem is he isn’t very good on the other side. He’s the Derek Zoolander of pass rushers.
Good job giving him all that money, totally worth every cent 😂
Playing Watt on one side makes offensive protection predictable. You’d think the defensive savant head coach would be able to exploit that.
lemme see tj’s charts
They do move TJ around.
Watch the games. The o-line just blocks him with 2-3 different people or chip him with someone else.
The rest of the line needs to take advantage of the ridiculous mismatches TJ is getting and other than Herbig, they’re not.
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I’m confused on how I’m supposed to read this. Am I looking at this from his POV, so upper field is really the offensive backfield?
How do people not know that TJ has some strong preferences in how he rushes. He has moves he cant do from one side vs the other.
Bud Dupree was so good at this. Being disruptive and forcing QBs to step up and get sacked by others like TJ or Cam or forcing QBs to rush their throw to get intercepted by others like Minkah Fitzpatrick.
TJ refuses to be moved arahnd, and Tomlin always let’s his biggest stars have their way.
Earlier in the season for the first 3 games the teams we faced didn’t run to watts direction a single time. And we did nothing with that
Move him around, but this shows that 70% of Hutch’s pressures came from the one side.
He should have just stayed on that side, because it looks like he was being handled well on the other side.
TJ would also be more effective if the opposing QB wasn’t able to easily get the ball out to their initial read in around 2 seconds.
That was the entire point of revamping the secondary — to give the pass rushers extra time to work.
Hutch better than TJ confirmed. Sack record means diddly if you can’t do anything else
He’s 31. If this was in his tool bag, it probably would’ve happened by now.
they’re different players. tj is at his best when he can study one matchup all week, learn the guy’s tendencies in and out, and then approach the live game like a chess game, feeling things out and setting up for killshots on high leverage downs. that’s how he always seems to make the biggest play at the most important moment
teams seem to have finally figured out how to slow him down meaningfully by chipping him off his track as the tackle sets deep, but that’s something they can do equally of the left or right. moving tj is not an instant fix because it makes him worse. however, i think between herbig highsmith and sawyer we might have enough juice that moving *them* around more makes enough sense to offset that.
One half TJ, one half Tomlin. Rushing from the same spot every time and getting no results is a collosal waste of 40 million.
Standard is the standard
This ship has sailed. Nobody is taking on his contract now. The time to move him was 2 years ago , now he’s just another guy. Same with Tomlin, every years his value drops. We could have snagged at least a 1 and a 2 for TJ over the summer. It sounds like Chicago was willing to deal a couple 1’s for Tomlin. Totally could have rebuilt and quickly.
Two reasons for this.
Cowboys had in a backup left tackle, so this was part of the game plan. Which is something Tomlin is either unwilling or incapable of doing. That is the reason the majority of his pressures came on that left side
Secondly, its obvious Watt is not able to move around and be effective. They talked about moving him around the line in the off-season, even Watt commented on it, but it has not happened, which means it doesnt work.
It’s not going to happen.
That would take innovation and creativity, two things severely lacking with scheming on this team for many years.
Also on top of what everyone else said. TJ very clearly as a player doesn’t want to move. He has his own game he likes to play, and that’s fine especially if moving him just makes him worse
Moving him around isn’t going to fix the main issue, which is the main trait that set him apart during his prime (his explosive get-off speed) has been sapped with age and injuries.
He’s still capable of occasional massive game-changing plays (such as the end zone FF) but he’s simply not a consistently dominant player at this stage of his career. The problem is we’re paying him 2nd highest DEF money ever and the extension of that hasn’t even kicked in yet.
Narrator: but the would not
I think the problem is he isn’t very good on the other side. He’s the Derek Zoolander of pass rushers.
Good job giving him all that money, totally worth every cent 😂
Playing Watt on one side makes offensive protection predictable. You’d think the defensive savant head coach would be able to exploit that.
lemme see tj’s charts
They do move TJ around.
Watch the games. The o-line just blocks him with 2-3 different people or chip him with someone else.
The rest of the line needs to take advantage of the ridiculous mismatches TJ is getting and other than Herbig, they’re not.