New Study Ranks Giants Among the Most Injured Teams Over Last Five Years
December 5, 2025
New Study Ranks Giants Among the Most Injured Teams Over Last Five Years
34 comments
Feel like we didn’t need a study to know this
I feel so strongly about the turf I might not be watching until something changes there
Same shit for the last decade. Somehow the training staff draws high praise but we’re always the most injured and the lack of depth makes it worse and the Eagles are always at the top even after the Chip shakes era.
But it has nothing to do with the playing service according to this group
Soft practices, soft players, shit turf. Makes sense
This organization is just rotten. Ownership, conditioning, stadium/field, scouting, management, coaching, culture. Even when we bring in talented or fun to watch players we either destroy them or let them walk to success elsewhere. It’s hard to see this improving.
The biggest question I have is how much did lazy training camps contribute to these problems?
Did poor conditioning and training lead to more injuries?
Or did a ‘conservative’ approach to training help prevent injuries?
Obviously bad luck plays a huge role and some injuries were completely unavoidable. I am curious however if there were any that would have been avoidable.
You don’t say
Clean out the entire football side of the franchise. FO scouts medical teams. Hire people who stay up to date with the latest in their fields. IDK just a thought.
Then again this is the franchise that took to 2024 to modernize their draft operations to digital. Fucking circus of a franchise.
The head of the medical staff probably prescribes leeches and tobacco smoke enemas for common injuries and soreness.
Ronnie Barnes has been the giants head athletic trainer since 1981. From 2009 to 2022, when Barnes was Head Athletic Trainer and also serving as Senior Vice President of Medical Services, the NY Giants were the most injured team in the league losing more players for more games than any other team in the NFL.
I live out of the area, so I have no details, has anyone read the new turf standards article? [Daily News back page] (https://imgur.com/3nM84ps)
Im skeptical of this, they have been breaking my soul every Sunday are we sure we aren’t number 1?
And no our turf on our home field has nothing to do with this. SMH
The sight of our medical staff *walking* a clearly severely concussed Gunner off the field told me everything I need to know.
Always injured every year. Same story year after year
People like to shit on Barnes despite the fact that he rated highly among the players when they do the ratings at the end of the year. Maybe he’s responsible but him being referred to respected is not some Mara agenda.
Worth noting the last 5 years does include a few years of the old turf as well.
I’ll die on the hill that injuries (turf aside, which they addressed) are mostly luck. Jones didn’t tear his ACL because of Ronnie Barnes or our turf. Nor was AT’s foot. Nor was Skattebo’s ankle. Nor was Dexy’s elbow…
Im sure there is a strong correlation between injury rate and record, players on teams whose playoff hopes are gone by November are more likely to sit for injury then those who are competing through week 18. Its all business decisions with a mix of an incompetent medical staff and a dash of metlife turf.
Anyone notice how so many of us rooting for this team for some reason refuse to acknowledge anything is wrong with that field, both before and to maybe a lesser extent after the new field was put in, but the players are still complaining about it. It might be the most hated field to play on in the league, even now. It’s at least up there in consideration.
This organization continues to put profits over anything else. They’ll only do something about it if it’s required by the NFL or a requirement of bringing in a high-profit event (World Cup, anyone?). It’s absolutely doable in that climate to host one game a week on grass if they do it correctly – but they won’t because it will effect their other revenue stream at MetLife.
We know. For anything Giants, players, coaches, front office, fans, pain is now an old friend.
Basically we’ve got our hopes pinned on dart and the arch of the universe having to bend back our way at some point.
THE TURF IS HAUNTED DAMMIT
Any negative metric… Giants top 5
The last 15 is more like it.
At this point it’s not luck… our head Athletic Trainer has been with the team since 75. It’s time to purge that department, preferably with fire once everyone is out of the building. He needs to retire and we need to get fresh blood in there.
All these half-measures only continue the misery.
“smart, tough, and dependable”
Our coaches and GMs will come and go but our training staff is here forever
The real question is how many injury days is the average and/or the median vs how many we had. We were #5 of 32. How many days more are than #16?
And this is why I hate people who say we have a good team that would be fine with better coaching.
This team has maybe 12-15 players who would be starters on other teams. That means almost 75% of this team is made up of barely replacement level talent.
Why that matters is exactly what this study is talking about. Joe Schoen wants to point at the talent that he’s accumulated over his tenure here. Only Brian Burns and Bobby O haven’t missed significant time. Everyone else has been injured and missed a couple of games. That’s the biggest indictment of Joe Schoen, his inability to fill the rest of the roster with average players who can step in at above replacement value.
No team ever has all 22 starters play all 17 games in any given season. You will lose 30% of your players to injury and 1/3 of those injured players will miss significant time. Who cares if you have a “core of players” if you can’t surround them with average talent.
New study concludes…no fucking shit. Idk if Mara sucked the devils d*ck or what to get those two SB wins but I’m not sure it was worth it.
yeah but think about how much money John Mara saved by not replacing the field with real grass
> The Giants came in fifth place, with players missing 53 total games across the roster, a 279% increase from 2020-21 (14 across the roster).
> Giants fans probably won’t be happy to hear this study’s results. Still, the Philadelphia Eagles have been among the least-injured teams in the league over the aforementioned five-year span, with an improved 35% reduction in injuries over the 2020-25 seasons.
what the fuck
Sounds like the giants have employed the same medical staff forever. Maybe they haven’t stayed up to date on best practices for the modern athlete. Or it could also be since the team has sucked so bad players don’t feel like rushing to get back.
Who needs a study to know this? You don’t need satellite imagery from space and peer reviews to read the weekly injury reports and see who is missing games.
34 comments
Feel like we didn’t need a study to know this
I feel so strongly about the turf I might not be watching until something changes there
Same shit for the last decade. Somehow the training staff draws high praise but we’re always the most injured and the lack of depth makes it worse and the Eagles are always at the top even after the Chip shakes era.
But it has nothing to do with the playing service according to this group
Soft practices, soft players, shit turf. Makes sense
This organization is just rotten. Ownership, conditioning, stadium/field, scouting, management, coaching, culture. Even when we bring in talented or fun to watch players we either destroy them or let them walk to success elsewhere. It’s hard to see this improving.
Fire Ronnie Barnes
https://preview.redd.it/tc3qcl76ke5g1.jpeg?width=442&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2122399bab0709f4d18567a40f67a38412a4e314
The biggest question I have is how much did lazy training camps contribute to these problems?
Did poor conditioning and training lead to more injuries?
Or did a ‘conservative’ approach to training help prevent injuries?
Obviously bad luck plays a huge role and some injuries were completely unavoidable. I am curious however if there were any that would have been avoidable.
You don’t say
Clean out the entire football side of the franchise. FO scouts medical teams. Hire people who stay up to date with the latest in their fields. IDK just a thought.
Then again this is the franchise that took to 2024 to modernize their draft operations to digital. Fucking circus of a franchise.
The head of the medical staff probably prescribes leeches and tobacco smoke enemas for common injuries and soreness.
Ronnie Barnes has been the giants head athletic trainer since 1981. From 2009 to 2022, when Barnes was Head Athletic Trainer and also serving as Senior Vice President of Medical Services, the NY Giants were the most injured team in the league losing more players for more games than any other team in the NFL.
I live out of the area, so I have no details, has anyone read the new turf standards article? [Daily News back page] (https://imgur.com/3nM84ps)
Im skeptical of this, they have been breaking my soul every Sunday are we sure we aren’t number 1?
And no our turf on our home field has nothing to do with this. SMH
The sight of our medical staff *walking* a clearly severely concussed Gunner off the field told me everything I need to know.
Always injured every year. Same story year after year
People like to shit on Barnes despite the fact that he rated highly among the players when they do the ratings at the end of the year. Maybe he’s responsible but him being referred to respected is not some Mara agenda.
Worth noting the last 5 years does include a few years of the old turf as well.
I’ll die on the hill that injuries (turf aside, which they addressed) are mostly luck. Jones didn’t tear his ACL because of Ronnie Barnes or our turf. Nor was AT’s foot. Nor was Skattebo’s ankle. Nor was Dexy’s elbow…
Im sure there is a strong correlation between injury rate and record, players on teams whose playoff hopes are gone by November are more likely to sit for injury then those who are competing through week 18. Its all business decisions with a mix of an incompetent medical staff and a dash of metlife turf.
Anyone notice how so many of us rooting for this team for some reason refuse to acknowledge anything is wrong with that field, both before and to maybe a lesser extent after the new field was put in, but the players are still complaining about it. It might be the most hated field to play on in the league, even now. It’s at least up there in consideration.
This organization continues to put profits over anything else. They’ll only do something about it if it’s required by the NFL or a requirement of bringing in a high-profit event (World Cup, anyone?). It’s absolutely doable in that climate to host one game a week on grass if they do it correctly – but they won’t because it will effect their other revenue stream at MetLife.
We know. For anything Giants, players, coaches, front office, fans, pain is now an old friend.
Basically we’ve got our hopes pinned on dart and the arch of the universe having to bend back our way at some point.
THE TURF IS HAUNTED DAMMIT
Any negative metric… Giants top 5
The last 15 is more like it.
At this point it’s not luck… our head Athletic Trainer has been with the team since 75. It’s time to purge that department, preferably with fire once everyone is out of the building. He needs to retire and we need to get fresh blood in there.
All these half-measures only continue the misery.
“smart, tough, and dependable”
Our coaches and GMs will come and go but our training staff is here forever
The real question is how many injury days is the average and/or the median vs how many we had. We were #5 of 32. How many days more are than #16?
And this is why I hate people who say we have a good team that would be fine with better coaching.
This team has maybe 12-15 players who would be starters on other teams. That means almost 75% of this team is made up of barely replacement level talent.
Why that matters is exactly what this study is talking about. Joe Schoen wants to point at the talent that he’s accumulated over his tenure here. Only Brian Burns and Bobby O haven’t missed significant time. Everyone else has been injured and missed a couple of games. That’s the biggest indictment of Joe Schoen, his inability to fill the rest of the roster with average players who can step in at above replacement value.
No team ever has all 22 starters play all 17 games in any given season. You will lose 30% of your players to injury and 1/3 of those injured players will miss significant time. Who cares if you have a “core of players” if you can’t surround them with average talent.
New study concludes…no fucking shit. Idk if Mara sucked the devils d*ck or what to get those two SB wins but I’m not sure it was worth it.
yeah but think about how much money John Mara saved by not replacing the field with real grass
> The Giants came in fifth place, with players missing 53 total games across the roster, a 279% increase from 2020-21 (14 across the roster).
> Giants fans probably won’t be happy to hear this study’s results. Still, the Philadelphia Eagles have been among the least-injured teams in the league over the aforementioned five-year span, with an improved 35% reduction in injuries over the 2020-25 seasons.
what the fuck
Sounds like the giants have employed the same medical staff forever. Maybe they haven’t stayed up to date on best practices for the modern athlete. Or it could also be since the team has sucked so bad players don’t feel like rushing to get back.
Who needs a study to know this? You don’t need satellite imagery from space and peer reviews to read the weekly injury reports and see who is missing games.