[Hoyer]’Surprised’ by 3B rumors, Hoyer says Cubs have full confidence in Shaw
December 9, 2025
[Hoyer]’Surprised’ by 3B rumors, Hoyer says Cubs have full confidence in Shaw
36 comments
That’s a mistake.
But like… Why?
Ehhh. The defense is there for sure, but man he looks completely lost at the plate. Idk that overlooking the position is the move here.
Shaw was 23 last season and the Cubs have control of him until 2032. Probably why. Not a fan of the debacle this year so I won’t make any definitive comments lol
Since I kicked the can of worms I’ll say this: I’m saying no matter what happens, the Ricketts are who they are. No external force is going to change him being on the team, as the numbers are all they’re gonna care about.
Smart
Lolol. Basically saying we’re not spending money. This team is a joke.
Outside of one month he was a .220 hitter with a little power on a team that doesn’t get base runners. He needs to spend more time in Iowa.
Shaw had a 3.1 WAR last year and an .839 OPS in the second half while playing great defense. I don’t think we NEED to trade him or upgrade at 3B. I think we need to figure out pitching first.
Get rid of his ass. He sucks and he will let the team down if another on of his “friends” dies.
>Adding someone like Bregman — especially if he lingers on the market and it begins to look more opportunistic as a signing — could certainly boost an offense that is currently poised to lose star outfielder Kyle Tucker in free agency.
You gotta think Bregman’s agent tested the waters. I really doubt he’d have opted out if he expected to “linger”
Imagine being surprised that people think you might need an upgrade at 3B when the guy you have went 2 for 17 in the playoffs.
…to fuck off for a political event in the middle of the playoffs?
I’ll preface this by saying I think going and getting Eugenio Suarez should be our top priority after signing a top of the rotation pitcher. He can DH and play 1B and 3B. So he’s the perfect fit if we move Suzuki back to RF and have a guy who can fill in for Shaw and Busch when they need rest days or days they want to platoon Busch.
It does make sense that they’re not bailing on Shaw yet. From the start of the season to all star break he had a 60 wRC+, 512 OPS and 2 HRs. From the All Star break on he had a 130 wRC+, 839 OPS and 11 HRs. You expect young guys to be inconsistent but he clearly has the talent to be an effective everyday player. Especially with how good his glove was.
I just wish we would still go get Suarez because he can help this team so much in multiple ways and he won’t come with a long term commitment.
Shaw sucks. Have zero faith or trust in him. We need to spend our money on pitching anyways so guess we’re stuck with him.
He’s not a team player.
Upgrading 3B is fine. Continuing to have Shaw develop is fine. No bad outcomes here unless he is bad. He is a work in progress. Takes time
This sub has a weird obsession with upgrading Shaw when there are more significant and obvious needs on the roster.
A lot of people are missing the point. We’re being tricked into thinking we can compete with our farm system, when we can’t. Shaw might be a fine third baseman (and terrible human), but elite organizations use these types of pieces to attract star players that win titles.
well that makes one of us
What’s Jed gonna say?
Trade him
Im “surprised” anyone would think the Cubs would spend money on big free agents.
The cubs have very intelligently grasped the importance of depth in pitching — both starting and relieving.
Unfortunately they haven’t yet grasped this on the positional side. They routinely run benches with 400+ at bats and 60-70 WRC+/ negative WARs.
Getting a starting caliber third baseman a) adds 3-4 WAR over the historic practice b) allows Shaw to get 400+ PAs throughout the infield c) provides an insurance policy for an injury to 3b/ss/2b.
So many people talking big about cutting Shaw for leaving for a funeral had no problem when Jason Heyward just sat out a game, didn’t even go anywhere, during the best year of his Cubs tenure and cost us playoff seeding.
Great glove, not so great of a bat. He did have a good second half in 2025 at the plate until the stretch run. 3B is certainly a position in which the Cubs can upgrade offensively.
Would be awesome to see the Cubs press to win. They don’t keep pace with other clubs and need to definitively win the division again.
Would be awesome to see the Cubs press to win. They don’t keep pace with other clubs and need to definitively win the division again.
The fact that there are so many articles and posts trying to justify Shaw as a player speaks volumes about how much of a cancer he’s become. So many fanboys trying to prop him up with small sample sizes and asinine excuses that it’s starting to get pathetic.
This is what happens when you choose politics over your teammates and fans at a time when it matters most. I don’t care if he’s the second-coming of Brooks Robinson at 3rd – he’s a garbage human being and a shitty teammate.
Go Cubs! Fuck Matt Shaw! One can hold both opinions simultaneously.
Im not against us sticking with Shaw, but we need the productivity that we are losing from Tucker walking…. where is that coming from?
Shaw sucks, trade bait. Get something good for him
I dont think there was a wrong choice between sticking with him or trading for a new one
We need one or ideally two front line starters most in this off-season, maybe a legit closer. Give Shaw until the trade deadline in 2026, if he isn’t improving by then, then upgrade 3B.
It’s just wild to me how quickly people are willing to write off a player AFTER THEIR ROOKIE SEASON.
lol
The only reason there are third base rumors is the reason we aren’t allowed to talk about on this board. It turns out mini Cub fans are just twats.
36 comments
That’s a mistake.
But like… Why?
Ehhh. The defense is there for sure, but man he looks completely lost at the plate. Idk that overlooking the position is the move here.
Shaw was 23 last season and the Cubs have control of him until 2032. Probably why. Not a fan of the debacle this year so I won’t make any definitive comments lol
Since I kicked the can of worms I’ll say this: I’m saying no matter what happens, the Ricketts are who they are. No external force is going to change him being on the team, as the numbers are all they’re gonna care about.
Smart
Lolol. Basically saying we’re not spending money. This team is a joke.
Outside of one month he was a .220 hitter with a little power on a team that doesn’t get base runners. He needs to spend more time in Iowa.
Shaw had a 3.1 WAR last year and an .839 OPS in the second half while playing great defense. I don’t think we NEED to trade him or upgrade at 3B. I think we need to figure out pitching first.
Get rid of his ass. He sucks and he will let the team down if another on of his “friends” dies.
>Adding someone like Bregman — especially if he lingers on the market and it begins to look more opportunistic as a signing — could certainly boost an offense that is currently poised to lose star outfielder Kyle Tucker in free agency.
You gotta think Bregman’s agent tested the waters. I really doubt he’d have opted out if he expected to “linger”
Imagine being surprised that people think you might need an upgrade at 3B when the guy you have went 2 for 17 in the playoffs.
…to fuck off for a political event in the middle of the playoffs?
I’ll preface this by saying I think going and getting Eugenio Suarez should be our top priority after signing a top of the rotation pitcher. He can DH and play 1B and 3B. So he’s the perfect fit if we move Suzuki back to RF and have a guy who can fill in for Shaw and Busch when they need rest days or days they want to platoon Busch.
It does make sense that they’re not bailing on Shaw yet. From the start of the season to all star break he had a 60 wRC+, 512 OPS and 2 HRs. From the All Star break on he had a 130 wRC+, 839 OPS and 11 HRs. You expect young guys to be inconsistent but he clearly has the talent to be an effective everyday player. Especially with how good his glove was.
I just wish we would still go get Suarez because he can help this team so much in multiple ways and he won’t come with a long term commitment.
Shaw sucks. Have zero faith or trust in him. We need to spend our money on pitching anyways so guess we’re stuck with him.
He’s not a team player.
Upgrading 3B is fine. Continuing to have Shaw develop is fine. No bad outcomes here unless he is bad. He is a work in progress. Takes time
This sub has a weird obsession with upgrading Shaw when there are more significant and obvious needs on the roster.
A lot of people are missing the point. We’re being tricked into thinking we can compete with our farm system, when we can’t. Shaw might be a fine third baseman (and terrible human), but elite organizations use these types of pieces to attract star players that win titles.
well that makes one of us
What’s Jed gonna say?
Trade him
Im “surprised” anyone would think the Cubs would spend money on big free agents.
The cubs have very intelligently grasped the importance of depth in pitching — both starting and relieving.
Unfortunately they haven’t yet grasped this on the positional side. They routinely run benches with 400+ at bats and 60-70 WRC+/ negative WARs.
Getting a starting caliber third baseman a) adds 3-4 WAR over the historic practice b) allows Shaw to get 400+ PAs throughout the infield c) provides an insurance policy for an injury to 3b/ss/2b.
So many people talking big about cutting Shaw for leaving for a funeral had no problem when Jason Heyward just sat out a game, didn’t even go anywhere, during the best year of his Cubs tenure and cost us playoff seeding.
Great glove, not so great of a bat. He did have a good second half in 2025 at the plate until the stretch run. 3B is certainly a position in which the Cubs can upgrade offensively.
Would be awesome to see the Cubs press to win. They don’t keep pace with other clubs and need to definitively win the division again.
Would be awesome to see the Cubs press to win. They don’t keep pace with other clubs and need to definitively win the division again.
The fact that there are so many articles and posts trying to justify Shaw as a player speaks volumes about how much of a cancer he’s become. So many fanboys trying to prop him up with small sample sizes and asinine excuses that it’s starting to get pathetic.
This is what happens when you choose politics over your teammates and fans at a time when it matters most. I don’t care if he’s the second-coming of Brooks Robinson at 3rd – he’s a garbage human being and a shitty teammate.
Go Cubs! Fuck Matt Shaw! One can hold both opinions simultaneously.
Im not against us sticking with Shaw, but we need the productivity that we are losing from Tucker walking…. where is that coming from?
Shaw sucks, trade bait. Get something good for him
I dont think there was a wrong choice between sticking with him or trading for a new one
We need one or ideally two front line starters most in this off-season, maybe a legit closer. Give Shaw until the trade deadline in 2026, if he isn’t improving by then, then upgrade 3B.
It’s just wild to me how quickly people are willing to write off a player AFTER THEIR ROOKIE SEASON.
lol
The only reason there are third base rumors is the reason we aren’t allowed to talk about on this board. It turns out mini Cub fans are just twats.
We do not need Bregman or his contract