How Pacers Pascal Siakam, Benn Mathurin, Andrew Nembhard led win vs Bulls + Ethan Thompson shines

How Pacers Pascal Siakam, Benn Mathurin, Andrew Nembhard led win vs Bulls + Ethan Thompson shines

Pacers roll for win number five. Their first road win coming here in Chicago. They smack the Bulls. The best three were very good. Ethan Thompson. Yes, Ethan Thompson was very good. The rotation was quite different. We’ll break it all down today on the Locked On Pacers podcast. You are Locked on Pacers, your daily Indiana Pacers podcast, part of the Locked On podcast network, your team every day. What’s up everybody? Happy Saturday and welcome in to another edition of the Locked On Pacers podcast where we of course talk about the Indiana Pacers. As always, my name’s Tony East. I cover the team for Forbes and Circle City Spin. And today I am in the deep deep deep parts of the United Center in a room with no carpet and very echoey audio because they play hockey here and they’re flipping the court and that court the Pacers just dominated on. They crush crush crushed the Bulls 120 to 115. One flimsy stretch in the third quarter. The only thing separating the Pacers from a really dominant last three quarters of this game. They got into their stuff early. Their best three guys all looked really good. A season high for Yakam. Ben Mather approaches his best game ever from deep. Nemhard was good and Ethan Thompson. Oh man, every fiber of Tony East existence wants to lead this podcast talking about Ethan Thompson in the 34 minutes of great basketball he just played for the Pacers. But I can’t in good faith do that because the reason the Pacers were better than the Bulls tonight and kept the Bulls away is because their best three players were all very good in the same game. Uh, and I think it started with one guy and then the middle of the game kind of had one guy and then late in the game had another guy. Although they all sprinkled their best moments throughout the game, but a lot of postgame credit for the Pacers successful offensive night. They shot 54% from the field, 46% from deep. Both among their best numbers in a game this season as a team. Their offense got started pretty early. The Bulls scored a lot in the first quarter. The Pacers defense stunk early. Once their defense got going, they won the game. But their offense never faded at all. And it started with Andrew Nhard, who was just getting to spots. And that’s what he does, right? He takes some shots that not a lot of guys take. He took nine twos in this game, but he takes a mid-ranger here, an elbow jumper there, a funky baseline shot here. And so he just when he can kind of skate around to his spots, he looks super threatening, right? and he got to his early offense. He’s was pushing well in transition. Both because he was just doing a good job in the open floor and in transition and because he was really, really, really active on defense. Three steals in this game. He completely shut off the Josh Giddy water. Josh Giddy goes two for nine with five turnovers. He was in, as you guys like to say, Nem hell in this game. And so the Pacers were initiating and getting confident and flowing early on on offense because of their defense and because Andrew Nehard started the game off very effectively. I thought that was crucial for him and he played well obviously throughout the entirety of the game. But if you check out his shot chart, you can see like the stuff he does is shots that not a lot of guys take. First quarter injured Mhard. Seven points, five assists, two steals. Uh I believe he scored or assisted on their first eight baskets of this game. The ninth one was a Matherin three that broke the Pacers out of that streak. Like of course that level of production from one guy is extremely important. And so I thought he was the guy early that got him going. Even though Matherin did outscore him in the first quarter, Matherin played all 12 minutes actually of the first period and had nine points. the the very very early returns for the Pacers was an Andrew Mh hard game and Matherin was filling in the gaps in that quarter and then Mather was filling in the gaps in the third quarter where he had six points and then Matherin was slamming the door in the fourth quarter where he had eight more points but this was not not an atypical Matherin game I don’t want to say it like that but he didn’t have any 10-point quarters eight in the fourth six in the third five in the second and nine in the first productive quarters for on your way to 28 points without a 10-point quarter that like Matherin can score 28. We’ve seen it a million times, but it’s not common for him to do it like that. A lot of his highscoring games come with a uh oh, the third quarter, all of a sudden Ben Mather’s the only offense that’s working. He’s going to score 12 points in this quarter or oh, no one can score in the fourth quarter. Ben M’s going to score 16 out of the Pacers next 18 points. That’s still a good thing. Neither of these are better than the other, but it’s very rare or I maybe not rare, it’s less common that Benedict Matherin has a successful offensive night that feels like this where he is more syakami where it’s like a drip here, a drip there, a play there, a play there. That’s good. That’s a good thing to be able to do because you like like he played 38 minutes. I never once felt like, oh my god, Benedict Matherin is taking over this basketball game right now. And he’s still and he finished with 285 and two or 25 and three, excuse me. Uh he was awesome with the shotmaking. Six of 11 from deep will do that, but three for five on Tuesday is of course still very good. He was just dotting corner threes, getting to spots. He really had good connection with Jay Huff in this game. I thought that was extremely noteworthy. He said he’s been telling Huff to roll. Uh, and Huff’s a natural pop guy obviously, but they got some good back and forth passing going. Matherin’s best assist of this game, a lefty bounce pass was two Huff. He talked about getting his assist numbers up post game. Huff had, I think, twice shot faked out of a good-looking three. One time just got it to Matherin in the corner for a quick three. The other time put it on the floor and eventually got it through him. Huff very quietly had a connective game. He had five assists in this game. That was the second most of any pacer, but Matherin was a recipient of a lot of that. And Matherin was very good in this game. It’s very rare that again his impact feels so spread out like that where he didn’t have a moment of the game where I thought there that’s Matherin’s moment. That’s the takeover part that needed from him. But he had a lot of very good moments in a way that was very successful. Pascal Seakum his moments did happen. He’s usually the guy who’s the slow drip guy. I actually felt postgame like if you asked me what was Seakkum’s best quarter, I would have said the fourth. He had nine points in the fourth. But the second quarter takeover from Seakum six for 10. He took 10 of the Pacers 21 shots that period. He made both of his threes on his way to 14 points and four rebounds that quarter. Um, and that is one great quarter. This was really just dominance. Dominance from Pascal Seakum who finishes with a season high season high 36 points, one off of his most ever as a Pacer. For all the great scoring games and very productive games he’s had for this Pacers team, he has yet to crack 40. He has yet to have like a holy smokes level statistical night, but he’s had a lot of ones like this where he’s very good with 36 and he does a lot of other stuff. 10 boards. He led the Pacers in rebounds by a lot. No one else had more than five. The Pacers rebounding, they got smoked in the skin, 35 to 46, but they made so many shots the glass was not as important for them. Uh, an awesome defensive night from Seakum. The Bulls just cannot handle him. They can’t do it. They don’t have a good person to put on Pascal Seakum. See, also the game he just played against the Bulls where he crushed them and hit the game winner. Don’t get me wrong, the Bulls have size. Julian Phillips is not small. Bzelis is not small. Vu can in theory guard him. Teams try to put their centers on him. Patrick Williams played a bunch of minutes off the bench. None of these guys can guard Tiakum. And the ones that are the right in theory size to do it on the wing, I would say Booze and Williams fit the size thing. In Williams case, he’s just not a particularly good defensive player. And Seakum can just kind of step out to his spots or do his little moves and score. He was hitting a lot of these just like only Seakkum takes that shot shots in this game. Spin move here, fading there. High release point gets him a bucket here. Like he did a lot of impressive stuff there. But I love what he’s guarded by Buzzel who was guarding him for the gamewinner in the first game between the Pacers and Bulls. I don’t I don’t mean any of what I’m about to say is this big critique of Buzzel’s defense. Mattis Buzz is a great player. 19 and 12 in this game. He made all nine of his foul shots. Getting up nine free throws is impressive. Manus Bzel is going to be good and going to be a problem for the Pacers in their division for years to come. However, he is falls into this category of I think there’s a lot of guys like this and this used to apply a lot to Sabonis when Sabonis was with the Pacers. One of my favorite games that would happen is Sabonis would be guarded by a young center. And young centers, even strong ones, like the way basketball is now, you don’t come up in America guarding a lot of post players are learning a lot about crafty bigs. And so Sabonis would just punk these dudes all night. He would spin for this shot and power through for this shot and do Sabonisy things and the Pacers would win and he’d score a bunch of points. Bzelis versus Seakkum is the current Pacers version of that where Bzelis for all the things he can do. Sticking with the craft and footwork and unique play that Siakum provides is a challenge that every young player has defending Pascal Seakum and one that Bzelis has really struggled with. Seakum just gets off shot after shot from spots he likes. He gets fouled a good amount. He led the Pacers in free throw attempts tonight with seven. like he just moves around and gets to positions that are good for him and the Bulls either over rotate somewhere else. The Bulls defense stinks. The Bulls stink right now. But all that to say, a bad team cannot guard Pascal Seakum. And in this game, they couldn’t. And so you walk out and you see 24 shot attempts. Whoa, that’s a lot for Pascal. I bet that’s the highest or among the highest he’s had in just a regular regulation game. I almost said regular season. A regulation game for the Pacers. I’ll check that now. I didn’t even think to look this up before I started, but it was good. He should have taken that many shots. He took 29 in a game for the Pacers the half season after he was traded to the team. Uh I don’t recall that game at all. He took 25 in a game this season. I bet that’s the Thunder double overtime game. Yes, that is a Thunder double overtime game. So, this is just mostly a regular season game across the last two seasons. This 29 shot game was against the Lakers. Ah, the past California beautiful run of March 2024. Yes, I should have remembered that he had 36 that night as well. So, when he’s shooting a lot, that’s generally a good thing. That means he likes his matchup. That means the other team can’t guard him. And he does not shoot a lot on games he doesn’t have it or it’s tough for him. So, him taking 24 shots generally a great sign for the Pacers. It was in this one. I just totally overexlained what made his night so effective. But, he made 13 of them. He made eight of his uh eight I can’t do math. Eight of his 17 twos, five of his seven threes on his way to 36 points. He could have gotten to 40. He had a couple attempts late when the game was kind of already decided, but maybe not really. Some fans had headed for the exits, but they left him out there. 36 is season high. And so he with 36, Matherin with 28, that is 64. 15 more for Andrew Nehard. That is 79 of the Pacers 120 points from the big three. One shy of the clean 80 that would have got them to uh twothirds total of the Pacers points. They were just fantastic. They were all very good. They were all very good at different times of the game. They were all very good at different parts of what the Pacers needed offensively. Don’t get me wrong, other players helped the Pacers score in this game, but when those three are all humming and when those three are all connected with their passing and just playing good ball, there’s not much opponents can do. And the Pacers showed that in this game, getting it done with those three, getting it done on offense basically all night. So, they’ll be happy with that. Uh they’ll be happy that they can use uh their guys in that way against inferior teams. and we know they can do this, but they haven’t really had a lot of games like this where they’re all humming or it’s all unstoppable for a big portion of the game. So, big credit to those guys as the Pacers get a win. And yet, my heart of hearts really wanted really really wanted to lead with something else. Ethan Thompson, the Pacers third in, excuse me, second in minutes player tonight with 34 minutes played. He had not been in any sort of rotation for this team. He hadn’t been on a team until 5 days ago. And here he is being awesome in a Pacers win. How did he do it? What else mattered from this game for the Pacers? Why was the rotation so different regardless of just Ben Shepard’s absence? So much more to get to to close out today’s lockdown on Pacers. But first everybody, we got to talk very quickly about the good folks over at Door Dash. The season is heating up and Door Dash has a way to keep fans in their bag the whole way through. Whether you’re watching the highlights, the tunnel fits, or just your favorite player, Door Dash makes the entire season more fun because every player has their bag. With Door Dash, fans have one, too. Door Dash keeps your snacks stocked, your gear fresh, and your watch party vibes absolutely on point. There are nights when your team stresses you out. Let Door Dash become your postgame therapy. Sometimes you just need dessert now. Those late night interviews hit, and suddenly you need chips at midnight. Door Dash is built for exactly that. If the group chat says, “Pull up, Door Dash. Make sure you show up prepared. Snacks, cups, a phone charger for the friend who’s always at 2%, whatever you need, they’ve got it. From tip off to overtime. Stay in your bag and order on Door Dash. Get snacks, drinks, gear, whatever gets you through the season delivered right to your door. Door Dash in your bag all season long. Back here on Locked on Pacers. Thanks for making us your first listen today and every single day. Locked on Bulls. Your second listen if they decide to record tonight after another stinker. Oh my gosh, look at the Bulls last five losses. What happened? They were rolling to start the season. They look terrible right now. I don’t know what to make of it. The locked on Bulls guys know what to make of it. That is a heartless bunch at the moment. They can’t really guard or score. I don’t know how they won five impressive games in a row to start the season. Thank you for being an everyday or listening here on Lockdown Pacers every single day. Much appreciated. Seeing all your Spotify and YouTube raps has been legitimately the most heartwarming thing ever. Some of you an insane and in a positive way number of minutes listen to this podcast this year. Fun year for the Pacers. And they’re closing it out with some success. Three of their last five games have been wins. Their schedule until basically December 22nd outside of a game against the Knicks is pretty easy. We’ll see if this team can actually find some answers. Speaking of answers, tonight Ethan Thompson. Hello, sir. Holy smokes. He entered the day. Some of you might be listening be like, “Who is Ethan Thompson at all?” If you’re not a typical Pacers listener or you are, but you’ve been away for a week, one single week, you’ve never heard of him. They signed up to a two-way deal on December 1st or November 30th or something. Uh they cut Ray Dennis to do it. He’d been scoring like crazy for the Heats GLeague team in Sou Falls and the Pacers signed him. He was on their summer league team a few years ago and I’ve now overexlained this, but they signed him because they think he’s good obviously and he had never played in the NBA. He had a two-way with Orlando last year, but he didn’t play. So he debuted in the NBA in garbage time with two games before this. So he entered this game entering Bulls Pacers, Ethan Thompson’s career stats, which had all been accumulated in the last 5 days. two games, 10 minutes, one made basket, one assist, one foul. That’s his entire career. So, the expectations for him to do anything, I don’t even mean this to be critical of Ethan Thompson, who has been good in the G-League, but your expectations for a player who has barely played in the NBA is new to your team should be extremely exceedingly low. And yet, Rick Carlile is explaining that Ben Shepard’s out for this game. He is a calf thing. We’ll see how long he’s out for. I don’t think muscle things just go away in a snap, especially the calf. So, they have to change up their rotation. Robinson Earl maybe is an option. Garrison Matthews has been playing some. Fury’s back. What are they going to do? They’re going to play Ethan Thompson. And Ethan Thompson was playing with Quinton Jackson, who’s recovering by the way, in a little scrimmage with some basketball interns in the morning. And Rick Carlile calls the trainers at the scrimmage and says, “Get Ethan out of the game. We’re going to play him tonight. He’s going to be in the rotation.” And so the game starts, Garrison Matthews gets Shepard’s spot and then Thompson slides in as the last guy with that bench group. So it’s Fury, McConnell, Walker, Jackson, Thompson. Uh Robinson did not play. Keep that in mind for future rotation discussion. And Thompson was like kind of rickety in the first quarter. I don’t want to say he was bad. He made some defensive plays. He certainly fit in. The bench looked good with him out there. He was plus four, but he had no stats. He accumulated no stats in his six minutes of first quarter play. So they start the second quarter. They keep the bench on the floor. Let’s see what happens. Second quarter, Ethan Thompson three for four from the field. All on threes, a rebound, two assists, and a steal. Plus eight. He plays all but 10 seconds of the quarter. Some of the reason he stayed in the game at all is in is that Garrison Matthews who started had foul trouble. Matthews comes in finally ending 18 straight minutes of play for Ethan Thompson. And Garrison Matthews fouls his first play in. He was in the game for 10 seconds and they put Ethan Thompson back on the floor. And he was still productive to close the quarter. He was very good. 11 minutes and 50 seconds in that second quarter. Thompson had nine points, a rebound, two assists, and a steal. Reminder, entering the game, his career stats were two points, no rebounds, one assist, no steals. He had more than all of that in the second quarter of Pacers Bulls. Wow. He said the play that got him like into the game and feeling confident about what he was doing and the production he was having was an assist to Siakum kind of in the open floor. But that’s a, you know, an impressive pass to make. Seakum played the whole second quarter. That’s also rare. He was also balling. The Thompson seakum combo. Yes, the Thompson Seakum combo was what led the Pacers in that quarter. Lo and behold, foul trouble from Matthews in a productive night for Ethan Thompson. Guess who starts the third quarter? Ethan Thompson, who comes out with two blocks, defending pretty well, moving his feet, staying with Kobe White a few times. He made his only shot in that quarter as well, plus five in his eight minutes there. So there was obviously a halftime break of his sequence of minutes, but if you if you take away the halftime and just look raw at like the the minutes of the game in order, Ethan Thompson in a stretch of 26 minutes and 20 seconds of play, played all but 10 seconds and was good for basically all of it. He was awesome. He came back in in the fourth quarter, missed a shot, but had a rebound and an assist. Was plus eight in that stretch as well. So, reminder, this is just to punctuate my points because it’s fun. Ethan Thompson, his whole career entering this game was 10 minutes and six seconds of NBA play. He had two points, excuse me, 10 point, 10 minutes and nine seconds of play. He had two points and one assist. And he ends this game in Chicago four for six from the field with 11 points. He made three threes, three assists, one steal, two blocks, no turnovers, two rebounds. What? What? He was exceptional. He wasn’t just like, “Oh, cool. Two-way player pitching in like you saw with Tayen Peter sometimes during the season.” Like, he was good good and earned minutes with the starters. I always say if a two-way player helps you get one win in a season, that’s a good two-way signing. Quinton Jackson and Ethan Thompson have now both done that for the Pacers this year. Thompson was awesome. The Pacers second highest plus minus was Seakum at plus 19 in this game. He couldn’t keep up with Ethan Thompson’s 20 plus 25. Ethan Thompson 34 minutes and 18 seconds this game earned the playing time. Absolutely earned the playing time. He was awesome. It was very cool to see. He got to do the postgame radio interview with the Pacers radio guys. He had fans in Pacers gear chanting Mr. Thompson at him when he walked off the floor. His teammates were hyping him up in the locker room. That is the fun stuff the NBA can be about sometimes. And that’s what these seasons can be about sometimes. Although the Pacers are playing better again. They’ve won through their last five. But credit to Thompson for being ready for a chance like this after not being in the league at all, period, on any team and then coming in and doing this. He was very good. Uh, last thing to get to, people keep poking around back here. I’m sure you saw me look to the side as somebody came in the room a minute ago. Uh, so hopefully I’m not ruining anyone’s night here at the United Center. Uh, the rotation was different. This is noteworthy. I’m not going to do a notebook thing tonight because I have to drive back from Chicago tonight. I’m not staying here and I am not going to read through all my notes. But I am going to tell you about the different rotation that is at least again no worthy keep Tony East is keeping an eye on this and you should too kind of thing. So Shephardd’s out and last game I I asked your car post game about this. Garrison Matthews who was good against um Cleveland and then pretty solid against Denver had some nice two-point baskets but in that Denver game he played with the bench unit and Jeremiah Robinson Earl did not Robinson Earl did not play until garbage time. Oh okay. Is that a permanent switch? Is that because the Nuggets went zone? Is that because you want shooting? What what what went into that? What are we going to learn from that? Is that something that should be expected going forward? I asked it very poorly, but that’s what I asked. And then today with Ben Shepard out, Garrison Matthews started already thought that was odd. I would have personally started Jarus Walker, although very bad game from Jarus Walker who played in the first half and then did not play first quarter, excuse me, and then did not play again until garbage time. Yikes. He did not play well at all. He deserved the minutes that he ended up with. He’s got to be better. He had a good stretch. Eddie Garrison and I just talked about it. This game was not a part of it. Uh so that was surprising to me that they went to Matthews there and then they went to Thompson first over Walker and Thompson was better than Walker, but still they they shifted that up. Fury’s plan every night. He played 16 minutes in this game. He actually made a shot. He had a nice drive. He had some great defensive reps on Kobe White in this game. Uh much more active Jarus, although in general or excuse me, much more active Fury, but in general, you want to see him make some more shots. Regardless, they’ll take the defense they got. Remember yesterday, Eddie Garrison and I talked about Fury and we both wanted to see some defense from him. We saw it. So, that’s all great. But the wing def or the wing rotation, excuse me, I’m all over the place with my words. Without Shepard ended up being Matthews starting, Ethan Thompson being the top guy off the bench, Fury third and then Walker. And there was only one player with a DNP in this game because there was a minute 14 of garbage time at the end. Tayen Peter played it. Tony Bradley played it. Thompson was on the floor. Jarus was on the floor. Jeremiah Robinson goose egg didn’t play. So I’m not saying that this means the Pacers have like completely given up on him or changed things, but they have certainly buried him farther down in the wing rotation. Now Matthews did not play particularly well in this game. He had three fouls in in 15 minutes. He was one for four from the field, three boards. They lost his minutes by 10 in a 15-point win. I’m not going to tell you Garrison Matthews was good in this game. It seems like they like his skills and Thompson was good, of course, in this one. So, LA, the Pacers play Monday. They play the Kings. That is the last game on Garrison Matthews current 10day deal. And I’m just going to guess a couple things. But, um, one, you can only sign two 10 days with the team, so he can’t sign another 10day anyway. But, I will predict that the Pacers won’t have another hardship after that because, uh, Ben Shepard won’t have missed three games yet and Aaron N. Smith is recovering and Quinton Jackson doesn’t contribute and Cam Jones is recovering. Maybe they will, but it’d be very tight with some of their timelines. They might not even have one until Shepard misses another game. So, they might not even be eligible period. Regardless, Matthews isn’t even eligible at all for another Dundai from the Pacers. So, keep an eye on the if they keep uh Robinson, whose contract is non-g guaranteed. I like Robinson. I think he’s played well. He has a clear rebounding effectiveness skill. He’s only 25. Shotm is in fact important. Matthews can do that, although he has only done it in two games effectively for the Pacers this year. I don’t think Thompson will figure into any standard contract discussions at the exact moment. But much different wing rotation. I mean, if they’re going to play more Matthews and Thompson and Fury than Jarus, I especially if Shepard or Nith comes back, they consider a G-League assignment for Jarus Walker. I mean, it’s not insane to me if he needs confidence in minutes. I mean, he’s been playing better of late, but he had not played well in this game. It’s just something to think about because there is going to be at least one more wing in the mix soonish when N Smith returns. So, that’s another thing to keep an eye on is minutes for young guys, Robinson’s future, what the team chose in this game and why and what it means going forward. And I’ve rambled too much. Pacers beat the Bulls. They’re five and 18. Some reason five and 18 sounds like way more competent than 4 and 18. Uh Pacers next play Monday. So, we’ll be back on Monday. Uh so, so I’ll be recording something tonight talking more about this team. Probably just me for that one. And then we’ll do Pacers Kings postgame Monday and we’ll do a bunch of guests the next two weeks because the Pacers only have three games in the next like 14 days because of the NBA cup break. So we’ll get a lot of setting the scene. We’ll do a mailbag. We’ll talk trades because December 15th approaches. So lots of fun stuff coming. Thank you guys so much for listening today. You can find me on social media at Tony Rest in this podcast at Lockdown Pacers. Back tomorrow talking more about the Pacers team. We’ll see you or excuse me back tomorrow. Back Sunday talking more about the Pacers team. Until then everybody, we’ll see you very soon.

The Indiana Pacers toppled the Chicago Bulls for their fifth win of the season on Friday night. How did Pascal Siakam, Bennedict Mathurin, and Andrew Nembhard lead the team to victory? Host Tony East breaks it down before discussing Ethan Thompson’s huge game.

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