Dart, Nabers and Thomas unquestionably form a “young nucleus of talent.” The question is if that’s enough…

The Giants’ lack of depth stands out at wide receiver, tight end and offensive line. The O-line is particularly notable because the group is playing better this season than it has in a long time, but since Schoen only patched holes and didn’t address the foundation, it’s still not a strength heading into Year 5 of this regime.

The Giants will need to invest heavily at wide receiver and offensive line, whether that’s by re-signing Robinson and/or Eluemunor, or investing in free agents or early draft picks.

19 comments

  1. Considering the points we’ve been able to put up this year with:

    * Russel Wilson starting 3 games
    * Nabers injured week 4
    * Scattebo Injured Week 8
    * Jaxon Dart out 2 games

    Yeah, I think our Offense has some pretty good pieces to build with. Complementary football hasn’t been there. Defense in the 4th quarter and Special teams definitely need attention.

  3. The giants have 12-15 players that would be starters anywhere in the league. The issue is the rest of the 53 man roster isn’t even close to being a replacement level. This is a big issue when 75% of your roster doesn’t provide value over replacement player (VORP is a metric that quantifies this).

    Add that to the fact that any one of those top 15 players will get injured. 30% on average with atleast 10% missing significant time to being out for the season.

    When you factor that in, then you got about 80% of a roster that has a bunch of low VORP level players.

    People are too focused on pieces. Pieces only mean shit when you have a full roster of good players. We should be focusing on average talent on the roster and not the best talent on the roster at this point in team building.

  4. “Dart, Nabers and Thomas unquestionably form a “young nucleus of talent.” The question is if that’s enough…”

    Obviously not, what kind of question even is that? We are 2-11

  6. The team was only a couple averagely coached games away from being in the playoff race. And some good coaching gets them a chance to be tied with their division leader.

  7. Yeah for the first time in what seems like a full decade the offense is the strength of the team. They’ve got a decent line and good starters among the skill players. Now that need depth and a good number 2 receiver. And they need to retain Elumenor and probably replace Van Roten. Which sounds like a lot but it’s really just standard offseason stuff. Certainly the best shape the offense has been in in a while.

    The defense is a complete dumpster fire though.

  9. The offensive line is good. Not the best line in the league but far from a liability. The main reason is because they have avoided significant injuries this year. The WR room is only viewed as weak because our best receiver went down at the beginning of the season.

  10. We put up 32 against the best defense in the NFL.

    Dart
    Nabers
    Skat
    Decent O-line

    Those alone make it good enough to compete. It’s the defense I’m worried about.

  11. If your first name rhymes with “Doe” and your last name rhymes with “Dane”, then yeah sure

  12. I just hope they remain healthy . Loosing either 2 of them is devastating to this team and yes AT I am looking at you . At this point you’re as important as the QB

  13. Am I literally being gaslit by this article?

    Wan’dale Robinson is currently 11th in the NFL in total receiving yards and 10th in receptions. The guys above him have names like Puka, Chase, Pickens, Amon-Ra, JSN, McBride…

    What the fuck are we even talking about here? Lol

  14. Not only pieces but depth. Nabors/Robinson, Skatteboo/Tracy, Dart/Winston, decent tight ends, offensive line played way better. We need our defense to get better and especially our defensive coaching.

  15. I think if we add a Tee Higgins level WR2 (can draft in the first or second), keep what we have, and the young guns keep developing, we have a GREAT offense. Top 5.

    Might need to add some complimentary pieces, but I do think the foundation is almost there.

  16. Duggan’s negativity is so over the top it’s absurd, transparently farming for clicks

  17. Is having young elite talent at the three most important roles on offence enough to build around (plus a great RB)?

    I mean if not wtf is lol

  18. Clearly no. The Giants are facing the same problem they had when they drafted Daniel Jones: not a solid enough core to make the QB pick the remaining “missing piece”. The OL this year has over-performed. Great, yes, and would have produced wins with better coaching, but this isn’t a long-term good situation. Eluemunor has been a blessing, but there’s no guarantee he’s back next year (odd are he won’t be), JMS is a below-average C, they are starting a 35yo G, with exactly 1 decent bench OL in 5th-rounder Mbow. Given that Thomas preceded Schoen, the projected 2026 OL might actually be worse than when Schoen took over. The Slayton contract was a joke from the day it was signed, and he’s only proved it so this year. Wan’dale might not be back, and if not, their WR2 is a solid WR4 on most other teams. Skat/Tracy is a serviceable 1-2 punch but no better than that (and I think I’m higher on Tracy than most beat writers), and there’s no guarantee that either Skat or Nabers will ever return to prior form after their injuries. But assuming they do, that’s still a promising QB (a big plus) and 2 elite players are core positions (LT and WR1) and then a massive drop-off. Given the holes that need to be filled with the holes in the DEF (MLB, DT, and similar no depth at almost every position), the next GM still has a ton of work to do.

  19. We’ve lost several one score games due to stupid mistakes, mismanagement of the kicker position and poor coaching, this team is a bit better than the record indicates. That being said pass coverage is a major issue, and another offensive weapon certainly wouldn’t hurt. If we can get quality coaching next season I’ll feel much better about the teams direction.

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