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I think that would be enough to get him to come up there. Why the hell not? Why not? Oh my gosh, this is awful. What a day. Terrible day. I went away from my phone. This is a a lesson. Never get off your phone. You can miss a story like this. I came back. I had 57 text messages. Yeah, my phone was blowing up also. Like, what happened? You’re like, “All right, whatever. I’m some sucker stuff, man. That’s a simp. Don’t want him affiliated with my program cuz I can’t can’t use the other word I want to use.” And, you know, it’s a bad word if I’m I’m refraining from using for refraining. Oh my goodness. got a big little show today. Yeah, whatever. At least I woke up. At least there’s a ton of stuff happening on this show so I don’t have to like talk through it. Yeah. Off the top in the middle at the end. Off the top. There’s something. Teresa’s here. Don’t worry, we’ll find BK’s going to be here at the end. There’s no time we have to talk about it. We’ll find What was the song quick? 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Cedric, how are you doing? I’m good. I’m good. You know, just taking it day by day. Yeah. Well, this is such a a kind of odd period where you guys have four days between your game on Sunday, your next game on Friday. Have you been able to take a bit of a beat for the first time and and really reflect on this first 24 games of the season? Um, a little bit. I think a lot of people have told me like take advantage of this break cuz we don’t get many of them and this is I guess a mini mini break like before Allstar. So, you know, I’ve been taking my time with it and stuff like that and just listening to my vets and my coaches who are also suggesting that as well. It also gives you guys a chance to practice, which I assume is a bonus for you in a rookie season. Oh, for sure. I mean, every time we practice, every time we do anything that allows me to learn and allows me to grow as a player is super beneficial. When you think back on it, I mean, four years ago, you’re at WAMIT and now you’re in your rookie NBA season. It took you 14 games to get into the starting lineup. How would you describe your rookie season so far? Um, growth. I think the best way to grow is to be thrown in the fire. And I think coaches and all of my coaches have done a good job with that. And honestly, cuz I remember having a conversation with him. He was like, “The fastest way and the best way you’re going to learn is if I throw you in the deep end and you try to keep your head above water.” So for me, I think that has shown like my ability to just like you said, tread water at times. At times I’m swimming great and at times I’m under the water, but you know, for me it’s just always about growing. The important thing is being in the pool, some would say. So coach Elo has consistently given you such high praise when it comes to just your overall approach. But what have you learned about him through this process? Because this is his rookie head coaching year in the NBA, too. Oh, one of the smartest coaches I’ve ever been around. I mean, like his knowledge for the game, the way he sees things is has allowed me to definitely like improve my knowledge of the game and just see how different things work. It’s funny because like we were going against uh the Blazers and they was running a zone and we basically ran a man play or drew up a man play. I was like, “Is it the same thing against a zone?” He was like, “Yeah, it’s going to be there because of this, this, this.” And like he just spit it on me so fast and I was like, “Oh, wow.” And this is in the middle of a game. So I’m like, “Oh, if I had an hour to sit down with this dude, then I would learn probably 20 times as much.” It moves so fast. Do you feel like you have had a a matchup or an opponent or a moment where you’re like, “Oh, I’m in the NBA now.” Like this is kind of a a Starruck like moment or a welcome to the NBA moment. Um, I mean, honestly, just each game is kind of like a welcome to the NBA moment in general, just because you’re playing new teams. Like, we played the same team a couple times, but we’re we’re you’re playing new teams in new cities, different environments, stuff like that. But, like, if I would go one specific moment is when we played the Warriors and Steph on the left wing hit like a step back three like right in my face and then, you know, ran down the court, did his little step thing. and I was like and the crowd went crazy and I was like Jesus like I remember watching this on TV and and I’m the one getting scored on. So I think that was probably the biggest thing but ultimately there’s always something like that is I guess just ingrained in my brain from each game. We just had the Clippers in town and I know you spoke on it after the game, but everybody saw you go up to Kawi Leonard and everybody has heard that Kawhi Leonard early comparisons throughout this season, but why was that so important for you to go and and get on his radar and have that moment with him? I mean, closed mouths don’t get fed. I think that’s the biggest thing like for me, you want to try to learn from the best and you want to try to learn from people that have done it before you. I mean, Kobe had Jordan, you know, he also looked out like he got Hakee, you know, so did Braun. A lot of guys like they looked up to different players. And for me, I mean, if people are going to compare me to Kawawaii, you know, might as well talk to him if I have the chance and then, you know, see what if I can work with him and see if I can take some of those traits. Were you Were you nervous at all? Anxious at all running up there trying to to get a word in with Kawhai? Nah. Nah. You honestly I’ve never been nervous talking to any of these dudes. They’re just normal guys, you know, at the end of the day, like we’re competitors, but like after the game, like you got to muster up that energy and you’re like, man, if I don’t ask him, I don’t know when the next opportunity, you know what I mean? So, for me, no, I wasn’t nervous. It was just I knew what I wanted to ask. Like, I didn’t go up like blind. I knew what I wanted to ask and you know, he gave me an answer. This makes me think of something I heard from Jaylen Wells yesterday who was doing an interview and he was talking about the leaders on this team and he said you know Jaw, you know Jiren and then he said Cedric and it’s not every day that you hear a second year player or any player on a team mention a rookie when it comes to the overall leadership and I know you’ve talked about this always being something that’s been natural to you but do you remember like when you were a kid when you first kind of emerged into that leadership role and how that’s always come from a place of comfort for you? Yeah. So, when I was a kid, my grandpa was big. My grandpa, my mom, my dad, they were all big with like making sure you lead and don’t follow because if you lead, you know the direction you’re going to. Um, I say the moment like it really like hit me was I was at a Pop Warner football practice and we were doing like a running drill and I obviously could have been like in the in the front of the line or first, but you know, I was dogging it. I’m not going to lie. And then my grandpa showed up at practice. And as soon as I saw him, I was like, “Ah, God.” And so I had to sprint all the way to the front and basically lead the pack, which which ended up not being bad, but I remember after that practice, I don’t even I was probably eight. And he was like, “I know you saw me when I walked in, didn’t you?” And I was like, “Yeah, I did.” And so we we still talk about that moment. So it’s like I think those different moments, but just honestly, it just being bred in me since I was young. It’s it’s funny how little league sports has that effect on you. Played a bunch. I’m not near as good as you, Cedric. Believe it or not, otherwise I’d be out there. I wouldn’t be in here. But play little league sports. And we had kids like you. My dad was a coach, so it couldn’t be me. But had kids like you who would kind of loaf about um on the on the practice field and then games until they saw mom, dad, grandparents show up. It’s like, “Oh, no. I’ve got to try.” So you telling that story makes me reflect on my little league experience. Were you guys big into snacks after games? And if so, what what was what was your like favorite snack to get after after a game when you were playing little league sports? To be honest with you, I don’t really know if we’re big into snacks after games like because I was no Little Debbie. No squeeze it. But I was I was big I was big into Gatorade. I mean that’s that was that was good. But like I say we always like went to eat after games. We never we never because we played on Saturdays. So it was like we play usually it’s the morning game or at the latest it was like 12 or 1:00 and then after that I’m starving so I’m tell I’m what was the spot CC’s CeCe’s was cheap and you can eat all you wanted to Ryan’s we had ponder roast around these parts see everything you name is not in California yeah it was so for me it was probably like Applebee’s I mean at that time hometown buffet was still a thing buffet hometown buffet favorite little thing. My favorite spot was uh this tanyaki spot named Japanese Kitchen that we used to go there. Yeah. Hey, he he was he was preparing himself because now man, I was intrigued when you do the little onion volcano. I was Oh, man. I was locked in. You were that kid. Eyes wide, fire set. You’re like, I was locked in. Let’s go. Well, now you get to pick up sushi for the team before games. Is that your only rookie duty to be on food report before you guys go on trips? Sushi. Bring cards on the plane. And that’s really it. And then you know like if the if the vets need anything like you you kind of just you know if it’s not outlandish you know you you go ahead and take care of that for him. What requests what what’s the most appropriate request that you’ve had that you’ve been like ah this is this is my life as a rookie that I have to live with. Um Scotty one day told me to take his bags from the locker room to his car. I’m not gonna lie. I didn’t do it. I didn’t do it. But I mean there like these dudes are great guys like and they don’t like I’m going through my rookie year but it it doesn’t feel like it. Like it’s funny cuz Jock told me the other day we were on the plane. He’s like dude you’re like a 22-year-old vet or a 40-year-old rookie. Like that’s what it feels like. So like I got to give you crap just to feel like I’m talking to like a real rookie. And I was like I guess that’s a compliment. But, you know, for me, for me, like when when these guys ask of something or, you know, they ask me to do something, like, I usually try to get it done. We you you’ve shared like the the relationship between the vets and you, the the rookie on the court. I I wonder off court from an advice standpoint, has anybody given you some some advice about non- basketball stuff on the team that you’ve kind of taken to to heart? Um, yeah. I remember me, Shaq, I think it was me, Shack, Bon, and Jaw were talking about like financial stuff. Like we were just talking about like how to set like how Jaw has his like financial team set up. You know, I’m not going to go into detail. That’s his business, but we’re going over that and just different things like what you what you find and uh stuff like that. That’s like one small thing. Um, obviously like you guys, you have guys like Scotty, like Tai, like Jiren, like they they drop tids and bits all all the time of like it it can be about life in general. Life, you know, when we go to specific places, you know, um, where to eat, it it really don’t matter. Like you, all these guys are dropping gems all the time. So, for me, I just try to listen and retain as much information as possible. We’re still awaiting his official return date, but it seems like Jaw will be making his return to the team sometime soon. You’ve played 12 games with him so far? 12. We got a lot of 12 numerology going on here, but just what is it like to play alongside Jaw and how has that relationship with him continued to develop? I mean, it’s easier for me. I mean, he he uh he commands a lot of attention is what I can say. Like, his gravity is good is really good and it’s very beneficial for me. And at the same time, being on the court with him, he he helps you learn certain spots to be in. Now, everybody’s different because like he may want you in a certain spot, meanwhile, somebody else may want you in another spot. Like I I’d rather cut with somebody else or space with somebody. So, you’re learning that as time goes, but at the same time, just like the gravity he provides and, you know, the command of attention he he has from the defenses makes my job so much easier. things have felt easier for this team in general as you’ve now won seven of your last 10 games. When you look on it, like what’s the biggest thing that’s led to this group kind of putting it together and getting some of these wins? I think just growth overall. Like we’ve really bought in to the system, bought into what coach wants us to do offensively. Like we’ve created new problems for for ourselves, which are which are good because not all problems are bad. Some problems are in, you know, problems are inevitable. But I think that’s the main thing. And then we’ve really locked in on the defensive end, understanding how like the defensive end is what’s going to get us to our offense and allow us to put points on the board. I think one thing we had early in the season, we couldn’t really finish games or we’d have a stretch where we would play horrible defensively. And so for us is just trying to be as consistent as possible to try to play a full 48 minutes. And especially if you get down to like the nitty-gritty and winning time is to really buckle down. Then have you been able to explore Memphis at all? A little bit. I mean most of the time like if I do go out I go to like Germantown or like Cordova because that’s where all like the real good stores are. And so like I’m going out there sometimes, you know, like I’ll make my own Costco trip because I can for right now I can is what everybody’s telling me. So I, you know, I go ahead and do it. But I think Memphis is a cool city. Like my family’s coming on the 23rd for Christmas. So that would be awesome. I’ll be able to show all 23 of them around, you know, around the city. 23 coming for Christmas. Yeah. I’ll let them I’ll let them walk though because like, you know, everywhere I probably would show them. I’ve been and uh it’s too cold out there. So I’ll let them It is cold and you’re a California kid. You lived It gets cold in Washington. Oh yeah, super cold. But it does get cold here. Are you at the point now where when you’re out and about you get recognized? Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean, if I don’t get recognized, like if some people don’t say anything, I usually get stared at. And you know, sometimes people are bold enough to come up, but I say like for the people that do come up, like I hope I hope I’m the nicest guy in the world cuz at the end of the day, like I remember being a kid and seeing your idol or seeing somebody, you’re like, “Dang, I just want to go up to him.” Like I’m approachable, you know? I’m not the worst I can say is no. And most of the time I’m not going to say no unless I’m doing something. But ultimately like I am I do be I do be getting recognized but but I think it’s all cool. I think it shows that like the city is engaged. You know, I want to be able to connect with the city as well. Well, Cedric, it has been a joy to watch you play, get started with your rookie season. Thank you so much for joining us here this morning and good luck with tomorrow’s game. Yes, ma’am. Thank you. We will take a quick break. We’ll be back on the other side. Theresa Walker will join us when we come back. Ma’am, did you hear that? Ma’am, I’m so Oh, God. Grizzlies fans, dunks, dimes, and no looks are great on TV, but nothing compares to catching them IRL. And that starts with buying tickets at Ticketmaster, the official ticket marketplace of the Memphis Grizzlies and the NBA. Ticket Master gets you to the game so you can catch every highlight in person. 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There’s there’s nothing cool. Auntie is cool but you’re not you’re not of auntie ethnicity. Yeah. Right. So and I don’t know stuck I don’t know if if I can’t think of a white OG. I can’t think of a white hunk either. So it might just be a black thing. We need to work on our names. Yes we do. It can’t just be ma’am. There’s got to be something in between. It’s okay. It’s going to be fine. The kids I mentored said that I’m still young yesterday and I’m just holding on to them. Dear life, they said, “You can relate. That’s really nice.” I said, “Thank you so very much.” Well, they didn’t say you were young, did they? Yes, they did. They first said, “You seem younger than your age because you can relate to us.” And I said, “I have you all fooled.” So, you want to be relatable to young teenagers, to eighth graders. Like, what are we doing here, Jessica? I have things to tell you. The eighth graders are not all right. But who you want to know who is always all right is Miss Teresa Walker. She joins us every Thursday. She joins us now. Teresa, how are you doing this morning? I am good. I mean, we live in a world where Diego Pavia is on his way to New York City on Saturday night for the Heisman Trophy ceremony. And while Vanderbilt is not in the college football playoff, I think it’s fair to say that Vanderbilt uh is getting points for handling this all better than a school to the north. Which which school to the north are? That’s so broad this morning, Teresa. Yes, from the playoff standpoint, uh certainly handling it better than Notre Dame. And from just a way of life standpoint, uh certainly seem to be in a better place than I’m sorry, CJ. Michigan. I got questions. So when whenever y’all get done, I got questions for you. Okay. Well, okay. Cuz I want to know how happy Clark Lee really is. Let’s start with the biggest story of the day and we will get to Diego Pavia on his way to New York because you did call this back in August and I want to give you proper credit. But the big the biggest story in sports this morning is the Chiron Moore firing from yesterday and there are so many rumors swirling all over the internet. So dissecting through those at this point, all that we know is that Michigan fired Chiron Moore for what they say was with cause due to an inappropriate relationship with a staffer. And then hours after he was fired, he was detained as a suspect in an alleged assault and he spent the night in jail. And that is all we know at this point in time. But Teresa, just what do you make of this whole situation and where it falls in the in the coaching calendar and what it means for Michigan? because you do now have a landscape for Michigan to try to find its future head coach that is certainly thinner than it was say 2 weeks ago. We thought the musical chairs and the coaching circles had stopped. The music was over and everyone was settled. And now suddenly, let’s just wait and see because while Michigan has undergone a bunch of slings and arrows in the last two, three years, I mean, let’s not forget Jim Harbaugh, the NCAA, uh the sign stealing allegations, and uh I saw a tweet this morning where the that that Connor Stallion said he knew like all the signs from like seven games, and it’s like, okay, did we really need that this morning? And here’s the fun part of this all. Uh the another tweet maybe Kaylin Debor goes to Michigan, Lane Keven goes to Alabama. I mean, it’s like, oh, the folks at SEC Shorts are are are like just like this right now. Uh because once the That’s the thing. Michigan, CJ, sorry, but you know, Michigan is one of those programs that you would think at this point they’re going to be determined to get it right. And when you try to get it right, sometimes that means spending a lot and shooting for the moon because well, you’re Michigan and you think that uh you know, you you have a history, a strong history, and you’re like, “We’re going to get this right. We’re going to go spend a ton of money and just take care of it.” I mean, my initial thought last night was, “Well, is that where Brian Kelly winds up?” So, oh, come on. It’s a be Please be nice. Treat him with kids gloves today. Sorry. Sorry, CJ. But but here’s the thing. when jobs are open, when programs are desperate and you know, you look at the calendar and that’s why teams are desperate. That’s what’s going to make things you you you don’t know what could happen at this point. That’s where that’s where we get the crazy stuff and we you know, we can all we all have seen crazy stuff happen in college football for this reason. I wanted to get your take on like the coverage cycle of this because you Capital Journalist uh you have certainly seen your fair share of scandals through the college football world. I will say I think this is our first coach alleged relationship with staffer in this iteration of social media where things just break off so quickly. You’re also filtering in a world of Twitterx that there’s not some verification process with accounts and so you have fake accounts. We’ve seen it in sports regularly and to the point where getting NBA sentelled is a verb and there are those kind of accounts in the college football space. Uh two of them took off again yesterday and now I can’t think of one of them. One of them is Rob Reinert and the other is oh god what’s his he had the big one yesterday. Uh Scott Hughes Scott Hughes. So if you see account like tweets from those accounts they’re not real but then there are people who don’t know that those aren’t real. Teresa, and I’m curious from your standpoint as an actual journalist, like how would you cover this story? Because there’s all these rumblings, and it seems that there have been these rumblings for months, and you can find old tweets from various people who have pointed out the alleged staffer, this relationship with Moore. Um, but what does it take to get a story to the finish line where ultimately you’re seeing Michigan make a move like the one that they made yesterday, firing for cause? Well, obviously something was going on behind the scenes to prompt it because, you know, I think the first thing I saw was Nicole Arraback tweeted and, you know, immediately came through with the statement from the uh AD Ward Manual. So, that’s where, you know, that’s where it goes from, oh my gosh, what’s going on to whoa, it’s happened. This has gone down. And, uh, you go back to old school journalism. It’s, you know, I mean, there was an arrest, you know, so you you you you you’re doing foyer requests for information from Michigan to find out all the, you know, text, emails, you know, any, you know, discipline letters that may have been, you know, given to Chiron Moore. You’re tracking down all those DP pieces of paper. That will take a while, but you fire off the records request. You are, once there’s an arrest, you’re getting in touch with the police department to f to get what we call either a police affidavit or report. you know, you can’t get the actual report for a while. So, you get a narrative uh of what happened and who was arrested and when and and then you you know, where are they at? That’s when you send photographers to the jail. Uh Pac-Man Jones before his first training camp in Nashville, there was an incident where I had to go down to night court because he was getting bailed out after an incident. So, uh, you know, if you’re in sports these days, kids, just a reminder, make sure you learn about the court system and and judicial issues because you’re going to need to know how to get to the jail, night court, and how to dig up court records. And so, it’s it’s just so you’re doing all those basics and you’re calling players, you’re calling assistants, and you know, if you’ve if you’ve been covering this beat, you probably have some sources. Now that said, there’s allegations about what coaches, mayors, senators, whatever the level, you know, sports in and and and in just life, there are always stories about people very much so about what they’re doing, who they’re doing it with, and did you hear about and you know, scuttlebutt’s one thing, but before you go reporting it, and this is one problem with social media, you you you know, I can’t tell you how many times on draft nights there will be a tweet from somebody whose account looks like Adam Shfter, but there’s an L or an extra F or a T that shouldn’t be in there and people fall for it. Why? Because you’re looking for information about a breaking situation and you’re desperate for any crumbs of information. So, this is where know who you follow and know know that they have a track record, you know, so that you’re not just going down every nook and cranny rabbit hole right now because I’m breaking stories like this. It’s so easy. Yeah. And I like content creators have great value in the space of college sports and just sports in general and the media world, but they’re probably not going to the jail and they’re not asking, they’re not doing the foyer requests. And so there is a difference between genuine information that is being kind of mined by people with the experience to do so and then those who are spouting off random rumors. And that’s where you get like the Door Dash. If you heard the Door Dash story yesterday, that came from one of those fake accounts, Scott Hughes. But I saw people reporting it as fact. And I saw other people who are actual like journalists sharing that as if it were true and then realizing, oh, I just got again. And it happens to all of us. And it creates a very frustrating landscape when you have a story like this breaking and you are trying to get to the bottom of what actually happened. And we all have a human nature of being nosy. And when something like this happens, we’re intrigued. We want more details. And so you’re so thirsty for those details. Sometimes you overlook where they’re coming from. We are all at that time, we are all the neighbors lined up on the fence and the backyard trying to get get the tea and find out what’s going on. But that’s the thing. Calm down, people. We’ll get it. Maybe not this very second, but hold on because you want the real tea, not the fake tea. Well, the real tea is way back in August, you made a bold prediction that Diego Pavia could be a Heisman contender this year and now he is headed to New York with Fernando Mendoza, Julian San and Jeremiah Love. Does he have any real chance in your opinion, Teresa? He does have a chance. Um, you know, now the thing that worries me is the thing that got Pton Manning back in 1997. you know, uh, Mendoza is playing in Indiana, in the Big 10, and that’s a big area for the Midwest in the North. So, you you you know, he might potentially, and you know, as Clark Lee said Sunday when I asked him about Pavia and his Heisman chances, he said, you know, hopefully not playing in a college football conference game last weekend doesn’t hurt Diego Pavia because, you know, what’s one of the last things that voters had in their minds as they were casting their ballots last week? Mendoza making that third and six pass to help them run out the clock and play keep away to finish off the win against Ohio State. And I feel I feel for you CJ. You just look like you’re in a world of hurt this morning. Pton Manning should not have won that Heisman. Pton Manning lost to the much better player. Charles Wilson was the best football player in complaint here. Like I don’t Florida and he would have won. But he won. Yeah, I threw my phone because we we all of a sudden brought up 1997 and all I hear about living in the great state of Tennessee is how Pton Manning somehow got robbed like Pton Manning wasn’t out here losing to Florida and like he didn’t lose to Memphis and like if he hadn’t if if that Arkansas quarterback didn’t put the damn football on the ground to stop himself from falling lost lost lost to Arkansas in the SEC championship game. Pton man didn’t accomplish nothing in college and he didn’t get a Heisman and good cuz Charles wasn’t should have got that damn Heisman. What are we talking about? Um, I did not bring up Payton. I I am with you, CJ. If he wanted the Heisman, beat Florida. He never beat Florida. Trust me, that’s a sore spot for many Tennessee fans. I hear that as well. Um, so, but that that whole thing, Payton lost mostly not because, you know, people saw that clip a ton of times. It’s because they saw Charles Woodson playing in the Big 10 markets over and over and over throughout the season. And while you know SEC is all over ABC this year and he had a lot of nice big games, that doesn’t mean that voters saw all of that. So while I think on paper Diego Pave has got the better case because not only did he throw for over 3,100 yards and 27 touchdowns, he he led Vanderbilt in rushing and he had eight more touchdowns on the ground. Eight, nine, one of those. Um, but that’s the thing. It’s like you watch him and I had a great quote for in my story Tuesday from Steve Sarkeesian of Texas that that’s the guy that just bleeds belief into a team. You look at Indiana. The reason I wouldn’t if I had a vote I wouldn’t vote for Mendoza. Who are you giving the credit for this season to more? Fernando Mendoza or Kurt Signetti? And I’m thinking you’re giving I’m giving you’re giving it to the coach. I think I mean guy who got the ridiculously huge contract extension. Uh otherwise he’d be in the mix for Michigan as well. But that’s the thing. He still is. Teresa, oh don’t worry. Everybody’s in the mix. You want Lincoln? Everybody but Lincoln Riley is in in the mix. I want Clark Lee. Teresa. Clark Lee signed an extension and it’s big for Vanderbilt. But like is he is he happy there? Oh, he’s got Jared Curt. He flipped players from Georgia and Alabama last week. Well, he could flip from Ohio State and Penn State up in Michigan. Does he want to be there? He got the number one quarterback in the country coming in next year and and Jared Curtis has already said I want to wear the number two so I can continue with Diego Pavia’s done at Vanderbilt and I just you know just two turnt Yeah y I’ll never forget Vanderbilt football too turn thanks to Diego Pavia. I I did want to ask about the other school up north Teresa. But what did you make of the College Football Playoffs decision to leave Notre Dame out and thus the the petty tour that has taken place up by Notre Dame ever since they were kept out of the College Football Playoff beat out beat Miami. I mean it’s the bad thing about this is that the committee didn’t seem like they were looking at the head-to-head until they did. Uh, and you know, and suddenly now Notre Dame’s AD is upset that the ACC commissioner is shockingly advocating and lobbying for his full-time football member. I mean, and I saw a Yahoo story this morning that there is starting to be a potential growing backlash against Notre Dame because guess what? There’s a memo memorandum of understanding for next year that if Notre Dame is in the top 12, they are in the field. And if they expand it and they’re in the top 13, they’re in. So, they’ve essentially written their way into the field in the future if they meet a not high bar. Um, because Notre Dame and their history, let’s face it, they get people voting for them as long as they cross the street and chew gum at the same time. So, it it, you know, and and now there’s people like, well, we’re not going to schedule you. And so, I’m really curious to see how much that backlash because Notre Dame has had its own way for so long in football, their own TV contract. 2020 it’s like we we’ll work with the ACC for scheduling. We’ll work with you in all these other sports. They share revenue with the ACC and all the other sports. But in football, if they had gotten in instead of Miami, ACC didn’t get a cut of that. And it’s like, I’m sorry, but Jim Phillips of the ACC absolutely his duty, fiduciary duty is to lobby for his teams. Miami is not in his circle. And for the Notre Dame ad to get mad, it’s like, bro, what are you doing here? And you and you lost. You had a chance to get in to your earlier point, Theresa. It’s not complicated. You had a playin game to against Miami. It came down to you two. You lost. You win that game and you’re in. And we’re not talking about you. Pit Michigan back on the damn schedule. Maybe you get another quality win. Maybe the the committee will say, “All right, let’s let Notre Dame get in.” I’m tired of the damn Irish. I’m tired of them crying. I’m tired of them complaining all the damn time. Woe is me. I’m Notre Dame. I’m not in a conference. Please treat me like I’m the best. Like you said, Teresa, I can walk and chew gum. Let me in here. And that’s why if you’re head coach at Notre Dame, you got to leave. There’s no reason for you to stay. What do you know? You went 10 and two and didn’t get in. There’s no chance a 10 and two Big 10 team isn’t getting in. Marcus, and do I have a Big 10 team for you to coach? They reside in Ann Arbor, Marcus. If you want CJ to roast something that you hate, today is the day because he will come at it. Jacob just asked me, “Do you need a hug?” I don’t even hugging is how hugging is how we got into this situation. Hugging is how we got into this situation. Particularly somebody like me hugging somebody like like you two is how we got into this situation. I will stay right here, lock the door cuz I know what will happen and I care about my job. Get out of here. I just want everyone to know however loud you hear CJ, I have an earpiece. Teresa has headphones in and I would assume for her along with me, Teresa could probably hear me and Nash probably. I think she didn’t likely could. Um, Teresa Oh, go ahead. But to CJ’s points, sorry, Jess, to CJ’s point, let’s look at the three loss team that did get in Alabama. And this is this is where Notre Dame has just the tiniest little complaint. Although again, beat Miami, but it’s like Alabama, how much longer are we going to give them credit? They lost to FSU to start the season, minus three yards rushing in the SEC championship game. And I’m sorry, Dererick Henry and Mark Ingram, Heisman Trophy running backs for Alabama, are looking at that and saying, “What? What? Three minus three yards?” I was looking at that Saturday night covering basketball in Nashville and I’m like, “What?” And it’s like so and Alabama should not have gotten in. But that’s the thing. Why is the presumption that it should have been of Notre Dame in there? I go back a circle around. You know, the team that’s got the best argument was Vanderbilt because they did beat and and we’re not going to get into this CJ about where they were ranked, but you know what? They were ranked at certain times and Tennessee was ranked 18 in the country till Vanderbilt went in there and frog stomped them. uh a place that that was just their fifth win in 50 years and yet Alabama got so much credit for winning at Auburn. I still have an issue with that because they still seem to think that Vanderbilt played it at Auburn when that game was in Nashville. I covered it. But that’s the thing. Uh the one blessing from Notre Dame’s complaining tour is that maybe we get to 16 team playoffs sooner rather than later, which is and if we don’t do 16, maybe we do a 14 playoff because wouldn’t we all have loved to have seen last Saturday instead of conference championships, let’s get rid of them. Let’s do a 14 playoff and let’s do that. I would have I think we all would have loved to have seen Vanderbilt, uh, Miami, Notre Dame, Alabama, however you wanted to go with that. And boom, baby. And yeah, maybe we get back to where the group of five has to at least at least have one win. I mean, or one loss rather than, you know, Yeah. Oh, we don’t have to. We can didn’t save the coming for the Group of Five. They could have to be ranked in the top 20. I agree with that. Vanderbilt did lose to Alabama. So, you can’t have them in over Alabama, can you? Wait a minute. Why are we picking these or that or the other? I mean, the reason that we’re looking at the head-to-head for Van H for Notre Dame and Miami is because it seemed like they were we’re going to give one spot to the, you know, and it’s like, do we take the ACC team? No. The ACC team beat this independent in Notre Dame. So, I mean, here’s the problem. We hear what they say they looked at, but we don’t know what they looked at in the room. That’s why I circle back to I just like pros better because we know what it takes to qualify for a playoff. Well, in the pros, I did want to get your take on a team that certainly isn’t qualifying for a playoff, but did get their second win of the season last week. Teresa, you got to cover a winning football team as the Titans beat the Browns. I would say the biggest story from the game was probably Shadura Sanders 364 yards, three touchdowns in the air, one on the ground. But in a battle of the rookies, Cam Ward and the Titans got the win. What did you take away from that game? Well, as much as Cam Ward wasn’t happy with how they finished because they had to hold on late after being up 3117 in the fourth quarter, guys, I think that was their first fourth quarter lead all season long. How crazy is that? Um, so they did so many good things in that game, guys. They had not scored on the opening drive a touchdown until that game for uh 14th game of the season. That’s how long it took. Uh but they did so much. They ran the ball. We thought Miles Garrett could set the single season sack record and they held into one. So it’s like there was a lot of, you know, we saw the team that in the before the Jags game when they were routed had beaten or lost to teams by a touchdown or less. teams with winning records, teams targeting playoff burrs, they had played them well. That’s what we saw in Sunday in Cleveland, a team that is getting better and just has still been finding ways to hurt themselves. They they still were, you know, committing some penalties, but they did things. Blocked punt, an interception, a fumble, punched out and recovered. Uh, you know, the the one tough thing is on that two-point fumble, you know, Cedric Gray just ran out of gas. And yes, his teammates have been just rigging him ever since for, you know, it’s like, bro, you lead the team in tackles and you run out of you’ve got an end zone to reach and you ran out short. Yeah, it’s two points, but it’s still points. So, it’s a good feeling for a team that has not had much of that all all year long. uh you know, you fire a coach, you just they snapped a seven-game skid for God’s sakes. And when they come home next week, we turn our attention to trying to snap an 11game home skid. And that won’t be easy because the Chiefs could be eliminated or the Titans might have a chance to eliminate them. So, but for one shining brief moment, there was happiness in the Titans locker room. Don’t get Don’t get too crazy. You don’t want to win too many games. You don’t want to I know ruin things at the end here. Well, I’ve seen one bracket that they’re predicted to, you know, that they’ve still got a great chance for the number two, but you know, guess what? There there are still games left. It’s not just the Titans who are watching their opponents that there’s the the Raiders, the Giants right now are the, you know, holding the number one because they were on a buy. So, let’s just wait and see. This is the fun thing. You actually play the games. Teresa, you’re always one of our most fun things of our show. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for helping us weather our way through a emotional day here on the show. We send you consensual heart hands always. CJ needs a hug. CJ needs but not from us. Not from us. Somebody else. No. No. I’m out. I’m out. I don’t want to be doxed on the internet. We’ll see you next week. Teresa, have a good one. Bye bye. That was Theresa Walker. 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Like it’s kind of ABCs of being hired as a coach. You should be able to woo a room to a certain degree and speak effectively enough that you can convince a group of fans, a group of people that this is the reason why a school just hired you. But I will say watching that press conference yesterday, I thought it was the most welld delivered coaches coaches opening presser I have seen since I moved here in 2016. And I’ve seen a handful of new coaches be hired. But Charles Huff was so charismatic. He said all the right things. Like is it just words? Sure, for now. But those are words that galvanize a fan base. And those are words that lead to support and belief and energy and just a a shift in, hey, I’m going to pay attention to Memphis football next year because there’s something new and that something new is exciting. Um, obviously Huff’s success ultimately gets measured by getting to a conference championship game or in his words winning a championship period. And that’s what college football is all about now. It’s not just about winning the American. It’s about believing that you could chase a championship. And Huff said that he’s here to to close the gap. He said this isn’t a broken program. I thought all of the things he said were fiery and and good. And he talks about Memphis like it is the spot. Like this is the team. He called them the homecoming queen. CJ said they’re the prettiest girl in the room. And then there was one quote in particular that I thought really summed up the entirety of his press conference and his remarks. Um, and it was the quote about Memphis being an apex predator. Here it is in case you missed it. This is Charles Huff from yesterday. In closing, again, I couldn’t be more thankful to be standing here. Um, a message to the nation. Tigers are apex predators in the world. Apex predators are at the top of the food chain. Their job is to reset and establish order in the ecosystem. It’s time for the Memphis Tigers to get to the top of the food chain and establish order and consistency in the college football ecosystem. And that’s what I’m here to do. Go Tigers, go. Were you able to listen to any of his press conference? Wasn’t able to do much of anything. Okay. I wish him all the best. Hampton graduate, started coaching at Tennessee State, ended up back at, I do believe, Hampton for a period of time. We talked about it some on HB.CU Huddle this week. you can go and listen to it. Uh, just wish him all the best. There’s only, as of I guess today, there’s only 15 Blackhead football coaches at the FBS level and he’s the only one with a H.B.CU background. So, that that is going to make me naturally pull for him. You throw into the to it that he’s in Memphis. That’s going to make me pull for him more cuz when the football program is doing well, the city lights up and I like when Memphis is uh lit up as a a city. I think he’s a good coach. Marshall, the way he left Marshall, that was he was forced out at Marshall. They just didn’t want to pay him. Like Marshall came out looking real bad in that situation. He gets to Southern Miss and we know that he turned Southern Miss around in one season. So, here’s hoping he can uh Memphis doesn’t need to be turned around, per se. There’s talent here. It’s a good program. They’re spending money here. Um so, here’s hoping he can get them to to achieve whatever it is that Memphis Tigers football wants to achieve for He will have great he will have resources that he’s never had before. Uh he seems almost unnervingly real and I say unnervingly like that’s not a bad word in this case. It’s just unusual because you usually get fed a solid amount of coaches speak and that’s obviously in there and and the cliches that get associated with being a head coach in college football. But I really liked his I liked his honesty on how he found out he got the job. uh he found out via his phone lighting up on a Saturday morning. He did say that on work days he works from like 5:30 in the morning to 11:00 p.m. at night, which hell yeah, college football coaches, you you put in those hours. Uh but he said he woke up and his wife said that his phone was going crazy and it turned out everyone was congratulating him on getting the job. He hadn’t heard from Ed Scott yet. Um and so he told that funny story. Uh he was asked about the conference and he said, “I think it’s wide open. No disrespect to the schools that have changed head coaches. I think we picked the best coach. loved the confidence. He pulled the Curt Signetti Google Me reference. Um I just thought he was really like refreshingly honest. Um was honest about not really wanting to evaluate the team that he has because he acknowledges that he doesn’t know the team that he’s going to have. The transfer portal could open and everyone could leave or half could leave and half could stay or everybody could stay. And so there’s still kind of a TBD period. He wants the team to get through the bowl game and and not ruin the opportunity for this group to finish what it started. Um, but overall just an impressive display from Charles Huff and I think at least for this offseason until we see him coach a game, there’s plenty to be excessively encouraged about if you are a Memphis football fan. For for this this point of the year, yeah, we’ll know. We’ll we’ll have other opportunities to get excited. Transfer portal opens up January 2nd. Stays open 2nd through the 16th. So, we’ll be have an opportunity to see, hey, how well can you work this portal? Um, so that’ll be a chance to get excited. The the s national signing day will be in February. Stop laughing. I’m not laughing. Brother just got in the studio, which saves you cuz I was going to I was going to tap dance and I ask you if you had any final thoughts. Oh, I got them. I got them. I’d like to help you keep your job. So, we’re going to take a quick break. What do you mean keep my job? I’m absolutely going to keep my job cuz I’m not Shiron Moore. I know how to keep a job. I know what to do to not get fired for some nonsense. I know not to get arrested for some nonsense. I know exactly what I’m doing. Does he? Nope. Did he? Nope. What are we talking about here? I can’t believe here we are, December 11th, 2025. The year of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. And this man is going out like this. He learned nothing from anybody else. Didn’t work for Patino or Patrino. Didn’t work for Freeze. Didn’t work for any of these dudes. and you hadn’t won anything. Anything. Winners. Winners get to have multiple families. Winners get to have a wife and a thing on the side. You’re not a winner. That’s what champions. You went eight and five. You went n and three and lost Ohio State. You think you deserve a little strange on the side? Maybe, just maybe, if you kept it in your pants, we could have gone out there and beat Ohio State. Maybe, just maybe, if you weren’t so distracted, we wouldn’t have been able to beat USC. Get out of here. How hard can it be? I’m a man. I’ve got the part you got. And you know what? I managed to keep it in my pants every single day. I can’t tell you the last time somebody else touched it. Can’t tell you the last time somebody other than me just just fondled it. Are you kidding me right now? All right. Are you saving you from yourself? Get out of here. Brevin has doubled overach. We are going to take a break coming back. We’ll talk. We’re coming for you coaches. Jacob, put it to commercial. We’ll be right back. Commercial. Jacob, you keep it right here. Damn it. Don’t you throw that down Jacob. Jacob, bring me back. Own the 202526 Grizzly season with the 10ame flex pack. 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Just be included in that. That that’s that’s big enough for me. Isn’t it bizarre to have these four days off in the middle when it’s not the All-Star break? because you you’ll still get that. But how has it felt having such a a big gap between Sunday’s game and Friday’s? Uh it it’s felt really good. It afforded it afforded me the opportunity to go play some golf, see some sunny weather. Now, the only problem is usually and it wouldn’t be as cold as it’s been here. So, it might not have been bad to just hang out, but to be able to go and golf with my pops and and like I said, see green grass and and the sun was not bad at all. So, I really love this Emirates Cup thing, right? I think fan of the cup. I am a I am a cup fan and it was we were involved in the cup this year. It wasn’t just you know the cup was going on and we were here but like active participation participate like down to the last game and the point difference. All right, cool. This is this is kind of fun to be a part of and then it was like oh well it’s even better now we get four days off. You get four I think the Grizzlies did it right. Like they manage the cup perfectly because they do compete. They get some wins. Yep. Then they get four days off. Then their extra games are against the Jazz and the Clippers. And no disrespect, but just instead of the alternative of having to play the Oklahoma City Thunder like the Phoenix Suns did last night. And Brevin, I don’t know if you caught any of that game last night, you really didn’t need to to just know that the Thunder beat the Living Breaks off another team. I I I saw the score. It was I I was flying back and it was like, “Oh, I got something I can watch while I fly.” I was like, “Oh, well, I don’t I won’t watch that. that that’s not what I’ll be watching. We were like, “Oh, the Magic Heat game the night before.” Cuz my husband was like, “Why are we watching Magic Heat in the middle of it’s the cup?” And then we were watching Thunder Suns and he goes, “Can we turn this off?” There is no point once you get to the fourth quarter. And that’s how the Thunder have been this season. Like they all their starters are anti- fourth quarter starters because they don’t need to play. They don’t play. They put them They put these games away. They’re up 55% from three last night. At one point you look up and Grayson Allen is so frustrated that he is giving a full shovedown to Chad Homegrren and Shay Gildis Alexander’s face is perfection. Like that’s the kind of face that deserves a sound effect like a oh but what doesn’t get shared is that like 30 seconds before Chad Homegrren is shoving Grayson down to the ground on a box out and then honestly kind of like kicked him in the shins about. So, one, Grayson’s down 20 plus to the Thunder, and two, we just got knocked down. You can only expect so much from Grayson. Took his frustration out. We we’ve seen Grayson have those moments. The thing with the Thunder is it is really scary because it’s not we’re not sitting here saying that SGA check like these guys are having out of this world seasons. They’re being they’re they’re being as efficient and as great as they normal thing. It’s just how good the rest of this team is. and and they started off the majority of this with no Jaylen Williams, right? He was out for for at least 20 of these games probably at the be from the beginning of the season. And there was there would be times where you would turn on and watch them and be like like where do they get this guy from? Like like how do you keep how do they keep adding more to what they already have and so like a machine to s to see the start? I mean at at this point in time they are ahead and above head above every other team in the association. They have I saw a stat this morning on Sports Center. They have led more minutes by 20 plus than they have trailed in totality this season. It’s just it’s stupid. I mean, they have that inevitability factor that you got with the 2016 Warriors. At least the feeling wise. You never know how things ultimately shake out or the 96 Bulls. Like just this this team that feels like an unstoppable force and we are only 25 games into the season, but they’re 24-1. and you’re thinking to yourself, how does any team beat them in a seven game series? Yeah, I don’t know. And the thing that’s amazing about that is how many times we talk about human nature kicking in when someone when a team gets up 20 plus. Like eventually there’s just a natural leg. We just talked about it with the Grizzlies against the Trailblazers the other night. Well, and you talk about the game after that with the Spurs and the Lakers. the Spurs were up 20 plus and then all of a sudden you turn around and and Van Gundy kept saying it on the telecast like h the thing about this is it’s an uncomfortable lead because the Lakers if the Lakers can just get a couple of stops they score so well on the other end and then all of a sudden you sit there it’s like holy cow it’s a seven-point game npoint game whatever gotten into single digits before the Spurs but it it is it’s it’s a credit to the entirety of their team it’s a credit to their staff that they continue to play no matter what the circumstance we are 20. So what? We up 25. We want to give up 30. We want to give up 35. And we just going to keep doing it until the horn says that the game is over. And also our starting five is out. That’s all right. Our next five up are just their next five play against starting five just fine. Uh speaking of and then we’ll move on from the cup because the Grizzlies are no longer participating. Did you see LeBron’s reaction to that dunk on Luke Cornett? I did not. Okay, so we have the dunk and then we have LeBron’s reaction to said dunk. Okay. Uh, LeBron is going to posterize 7-1 Luke Cornette here. You get the rebound, push it in transition. LeBron James still got it. Why did they fix their court even? A great question. Boom. Bam. Awesome. So, you see it from this angle, but then when you got the replay angle, the scream that LeBron scrumpted and with Jackson Hayes behind him, I mean, that’s in 4K for like a good 5 seconds. like that’s my face when I bang my knee on the corner of a table. Um I just appreciated the pizzazz from LeBron that he can still tap into even in a situation where they’re they’re figuring it out now that he’s back. I love it. I mean why be just because you’re considered to be one of the best in the game? Why can’t you have still have the emotions? I love it. Why can’t you not still enjoy the game to that extent? Other people dunk on somebody and they do it. It’s like oh man. Yes. Then he does this and then he does like why you had to do it for so long. Okay, this is so random and it’s not like I stayed up last night to watch Taylor Swift was on one of the late night shows and I have no idea which one it was, but I saw a clip circulating where she talked about how there are a lot of people on the internet who wish that she would just, you know, be quiet and go away now that she’s had all this success. And she’s like, why would I do I’m still good. I’ve still got it. LeBron, similar thing. We have these people who achieve such levels of greatness that we we take it for granted once it it continues on. And you would think, you’ve done this so many times. Why are you having this? You’ve dunked on 8,000 people in your career. Cuz I still enjoy doing enjoy it. Like that’s why she’s still out there. Like she enjoys She enjoys still having number one hit songs. I She still enjoy making money, right? There’s nothing I I don’t see I don’t have a I don’t have an issue with showing the emotion of being able to do it. I I don’t when it when the timing of it, what other things transpire, whatever is going to get you and your team going. I I I have I think we we overanalyze those people. That’s what happens. They get overanalyzed because they’re on everything. They’re talked about all the time and you want and we see them at every angle, at every point. We also just overanalyze people, celebrities, basketball teams. And we’ve seen such a shift for this Memphis Grizzlies team over the last two weeks. It’s amazing what happens when you’re winning seven of 10 as opposed to winning four or 15 to start the season. How have you seen the change not just in the production and the ultimate win loss differential on the court but just in the attitude of this team? Well, there there aren’t many a lot of times when you talk about a team changing it’s because they get somebody back that then dominates the game and a lot of times that’s from the offensive standpoint. The thing that has changed for this team has been Zack Edy coming back from injury and it has affected everyone. And now the other guys have continued to flourish within how the offense is going to run, where they’re going to get shots, how they’re going to move and play off one another. And I I think you’re seeing a little more fluidity to the offense on that end. And then but also given credit is defensively they have gotten better as a unit and they’ve gotten better in crucial times to be able to get stops and the but the completion of the stops that we weren’t having at the beginning of the year is rebound the ball. Now the finish of the possession is they rebound the basketball. Whether it be Zack, whether it be the guards continue to rebound extremely well. Um they’re finishing those those situations. And then on the offensive end, his influence has been, yes, the second chance points have been there, but I thought Jo Landell has done it all year and now Zach has filed right behind. Their role to the basket has been so much deeper that it is forcing the defense to have to play f deeper into to the basket. So that means that there’s just more space that is in the painted area. So the guards get there more, help the passing has been there. And then guys, they’re shooting the same shots. We were saying at the beginning of the year, they just weren’t making shots. It wasn’t like they were shooting bad shots. It’s like, damn, can we just make some shots? But it helps when you have someone like a Cam Spencer who steps in and suddenly is one of your most consistent three-point shooters. He makes shots. KCP is making shots. Earlier in the year, Santi was the one that was really holding it and and getting things done for this team. But I think you’ve just seen Jaylen Wells and the way that he’s shot lately. But I all of that is a function of they worked at it. The level of comfort that is there on the offensive end, the amount of space that they have because themselves keeping it. But I just think Zach’s influence um can’t be understated through it all. Makes everything easier for everyone. And at the end of the day and we look and say, look who’s making it that much easier. Not somebody who is that big that steps out and shoots threes. He’s a guy that still dominates what he does in the game going to the interior. So I I just I like that there is some semblance of the basketball that I like to talk about being played. We still have only seen six minutes where the Grizzlies three best players have all played together with Jaw, Jiren, and Zack. And the hope is that Friday maybe, I’m not saying it’s happening, but it sure is trending like it’s happening that John Morant will make his return on 1212. He gave away the 250 tickets yesterday. Uh just how do you evaluate with based on what you’ve seen over these last 10 reinserting Jaw into the mix what that can look like starting perhaps against the Jazz on Friday? Well, I think what it it it definitely gives you that the pace at which they would like to play and it gives you a primary ball handler that is comfortable being the primary ball handler. And I give credit to everyone from Vince to Cam to Jiddy to the the number of guys who holding it together. Exactly. Jaylen, Cedra, everyone who has had to play that role uh while doing it under duress because that’s what teams have started to do to us like well just pressure them as much as you can to just have them be uncomfortable to mess up the rhythm of their offense. I I think but to have someone who is accustomed to playing the position and whose skill is at the level of a John I think it will allow everything to run smoother but it it’s they but he and Jiren for the two of them is still a a figuring out how to still be their best selves within this equal opportunity offense that runs because it’s like through the body of the game. I say everything the all happens through the body of the game. Yeah. But the last six minutes of of NBA games comes down to how well is your best taking over. I mean, it’s just the it’s just the nature of what the game is when you when you’re playing against when you’re playing highlevel basketball against highlevel teams. And so I think he’ll be I think he’ll be fine. And the thing is that this is a re for for him I I would expect it to be a little bit better because he’s used to just playing basketball. So this is play basketball. Now, what you have to get accustomed to is maybe I’m not dribbling as much as I did before. It doesn’t take me to have to create everything. I got to be accustomed to now that may be a little different because yes, it was him having to create and make things happen. Whereas now, they found a way to be able to move the ball, cut, get the ball, and everybody has found a way to be successful. So, there’s a there is a uh an assimilation to what it is, but there’s still that he still is who he is, right? There’s no denying what he’s capable of doing. How does Jiren Jackson Jr. become the best version of himself? Well, he I I I talked about this the other day and I was saying I this is something new for him because I think he’s it’s been a lot of structure basketball in in terms of how he’s played, what his success been, you’re going to do this and that’s what keeps successful. And even when he got to the league, it was the same thing. We’ll get you a ball at the elbow, you’ll play one-on-one, you’ll bring the ball up sometimes if you have a matchup, we’ll let you get the space to play one-on-one. Sometimes we’ll throw to you in the mid post, but this this offense is not predicated on doing that. So, I think for him to be to be more effective throughout the game is he’s going to have to be more active on the offensive end. In the past, it was kind of the big set the screen, the big roll, you replace, we throw it to you now play. I with the way that this is, it is more you may had to run, set the screen, you may had to slip, the other big may come. Now you pop out. Now the swing of the ball, now you step up on the back screen. you not there may have to just be more action right to his game to be more involved with within the fiveman offense that’s happening and then like I said then later in the game hopefully you have enough of a rhythm so now it becomes throw it you on the elbow go do your thing get us a basket or get us a foul or make a play for somebody else like so I it it had he has to it’s just more activity will be needed from him to put himself in position so that I think he can find a rhythm within this so is that what you I think really is like the next iteration or the next step forward for this team is how to function in the the more equal opportunity offense for the first 80% of a game and then still being able to lean on the jaw and the jiren of it all to close out a that that’s what makes a good team great. Even as we’re talking about the Thunder, they don’t ever have to close out a game because they’re usually up by 20. But if you needed a shot, you’re going to Shay Gil just Alexander. That’s definitively your best player. And that’s just how this has always worked. Well, you think we it’s it’s almost like look how the Spurs have beaten us this year. Yes. It it’s it’s it’s very similar to that way in that through the game we’re talking about everybody that’s Harrison Barnes is doing what he’s done. We’re talking about um Vel doing whatever he’s done. Uh every everybody else we’re saying all these names and then the star guys, yeah, they they’re still doing their thing. But when it got to the last six minutes of the game, even in that fourth quarter, Harrison Barnes did good in the beginning, but every last fourth quarter, it was Darren Fox that that beat us in both games. And we go back to playing against the Cavaliers in Cleveland. We’re doing great. D uh Mitchell got off to a hot start in that game. Yeah. But then through the middle of the game, it was kind of like we’re playing and then as soon as it got to the end of Evan Mobley did well in the middle. It got to the end of that game, Donov Mitchell was like here we go. He take over and win. against the Nuggets. Joic was having one of the quietest triple doubles. Who takes over? It’s Joic and Murray. Early in the season, it’s the Pistons. Who takes over? It’s Kate. Like it’s that is just the rhythm of the NBA. And so I think that there Yes, they can find a way to still find a rhythm, be efficient. The team can still play, but the activity for them is going to be different offensive activity than what they are accustomed to doing. They’ve really established a pattern of beating teams below 500. which you can take of two things like all right you’re playing easier teams but also it’s a professional thing to be able to consistently beat the teams that you are perceived to be better than or that you think of yourselves better than. Is there one of those games though that you look at it as a blueprint that can carry over against the teams with above 500 records who they have struggled against this season with only one win and it was against the Suns early on. Well, whenever people ask me say that to me I say well what’s our record? Sure below 500. I so I can understand if if we were a 11 and4 team and the four the and four of our losses were against 500 teams and we or we or we lo our losses were against below 500 teams and we just beat the good I mean then you say well why can’t y’all what’s wrong with the why you’re not beating these teams well I I at this point in time I think that they would consider themselves to be the best of the rest yes at this point and which is a valuable thing to to know to know that you are not the worst you’re also doing this without your main player. Number one, one of them being in and out of the lineup because of injury. The other one hasn’t found his rhythm to it. And we’re still without Tai Jerome, Scotty Bman Jr., Brandon Clark. Like, it’s it’s there are a lot of factors as to why the team was in this position. But I give them credit because they didn’t hang their heads and say, “Well, here we go again. These are the reasons why we’re this way because we don’t because of” They didn’t do that. They just kept believing and working. So, and they’ve stayed engaged. You see some teams around the league where like when it’s over I said the body language police on the bench it looks bad everything is done. You just you know that it’s done. This team hasn’t act that way and what they’ve done is those teams are on the schedule that they have to play go out and beat them. If we’re sitting here talking about they lost to these teams and then that then it would be a whole different Yeah. then then they was like well what’s wrong? Yes. Beat the team. That’s why I think it’s so good like that that is a valuable stat because the alternative is you can’t even beat these teams like it’s it could flip. so quickly. And this is still good confidence for when you do play the good team. It’s why we’re in every game against the good teams. It’s just the finishing part that gets to them. That’s all it is. It’s just the finishing. And so I I I think they take the blueprint from all of those. I say the San Antonio game, you take the blueprint from going back to the Cleveland game on the road, how you kept yourself in the game when a star player gets hot early, but you don’t hang your I think those all of those are learning scars that have allowed them to be where they are now. And I think you get your guys back now that can only build upon what happened. I keep saying though, they they have done a good job. We Here’s the the gumball. I start off the season saying the broth for us is John Jiren. That’s the That’s the broth. All of the base has to be there. The B. You’re not throwing ingredients into a into a pot with nothing in it. I don’t care. You can keep throwing. It’s not going to get anywhere. So those two are still the the the solid for these the things that we are throwing into the pot are amaz like you sitting back like I’m food coma now. Y know it’s time it’s time to it’s time for me to lay down. That’s what that is what the rest of this team has has provided for us. Now it’s just a matter of getting the that base to really be able to be themselves on a regular basis and then you don’t you don’t know what happens from there. How do you see the the blessing and the curse of these players who have stepped up and then as you get healthier someone has to get bumped out of the rotation and how you ultimately figure it out. Yeah. Stay ready in case it happens again. It’s and then but the other nature of the game is somebody ultimately knock on wood you don’t want it to happen but it’s the reality of the game. Someone’s going to get hurt. Yeah. And they’re going to need you to play again. And the way that guys have stayed ready when their numbers have been called, you just got to continue to do continue to do the same thing. That that’s that is what the NBA is. When your number is called, you know that someone still is there, you go and perform. What you’re doing is making it hard for the what I just want to make it hard on you to look down there and not put me in. I And what the other thing is I also want to solidify that I’m going to have an NBA career. So yes, I want these guys to do well for our team and play well, but I also know the business side of this, which is if I go out and play well, then I am attractive to other people also. And so yes, I want those guys to understand play well when it’s your time, but also understand when these guys come back and think that there’s going to be a little bit of a shift and and handle it as professionally as KCP did with what has what transpire transpired with his change in role somewhat and you’ll be just fine. How have you seen those vets who are added to the locker room? And we talked a lot about KCP when he came in. He’s won two championships. I remember talking with people with the Rockets who brought it to my attention just how good of a locker room vet someone like a Jock Landale can be. Where have you seen kind of their ability to help this team go through some of the bumps that happened early on? Well, I go back to KCP real quick. Number one was the role change that they asked him to do and how he is playing. That speaks more volumes than anything that he could say wordwise to see him continue to work. He could have easily hung his head. Why? How y’all doing this to me? I should be. They ain’t do none of that. It was I’ve come back and I’m going to continue to be good. I’m going to embrace this role and be as good and and that’s it’s a main reason why our bench is one of the best benches in the association. And so I I think that is the type leadership the way that Landal has gone out and played on both ends. hard, aggressive, team-minded, and I think they’re guys that say things when things need to be said. They’re not guys who are going to be overly uh communicative. They’re not going to to have to say something all the time. And I think that is good for young guys because I don’t want to hear you all the time. And when you do say something, I want it to have meaning because like, oh, if he’s saying something I I need to take that to heart. And I think that that’s what the those two guys have afforded just didn’t come in with I’m two championship land. I played here overseas. I was this. They they don’t have to to give their accolades of who they are. I think by the way that they have gone about their play on the court. The way that they have attacked things off the floor is enough of an example that you need uh on a young club. It’s an interesting situation where one of those voices in this locker room that carries weight is a rookie in Cedric Coward. And we talked with him about it in the first segment, but Jaylen Wells brought it up this week where he was talking about the leaders and he said, “Jaron even said and that’s something different like a rookie does not we’re we’re 24 games into this thing for the Grizzlies and for Cedric Coward to have kind of emerged as one of those vocal leaders along with the play that we’ve seen earn him a spot in the starting lineup. How have you evaluated that particular component to what he brings to this game? I I would say this real quick. Your your best basketball player does not and a lot of times is not your leader on your basketball team. Just because you’re the best talent doesn’t mean that you’re also going to be the best leader. That’s not to say that our two guys are not leaders and they’ve done a great job of assuming that role as they have continued to get older and be on this team, understand this community. They have done a great job of doing it. But just but I I say as I say, hey Cedric, that means that there are other people who are have the opportunity to be leaders. And if you show the rest of the team that you are deserving of it, then guys will listen and follow that. And it doesn’t that doesn’t have to have anything to do with whether it’s your first year or your 10th year. You you you understand and know your place and know when to say it. Guys will respect it. And I think for Cedric, what it is is he knows when. And it’s not just the when, it’s how to say it. Cuz I can tell you all the time, it’s not what you say, it’s how you say it. And I think he has he understands because he’s also not a young rookie. Like he’s this is like he’s been through a lot in terms of getting here. It hasn’t just been on a silver plate. So the work that he’s had to put in to get to this point is a lot different than others that ascended to here. So I I think that the respect that uh he has garnered is something that he has worked towards, but it’s also just who you are. Some people just you’re just naturally that. And when you’re a natural leader, then then people migrate to you and people they they they see it, they feel it, and I think we just had we have a great you see what we’ve done on the court. I you you people have talked about it. I I don’t have to talk the basketball side speaks for itself. But what you talked about in terms of people being able to listen to him and to be a youngster, I think just speaks volumes for for who he is. And the basketball is he’s he’s been great. I love the the turning the corner. That’s one thing that he and I talk a lot about is turn the corner on some of those for that mid-range shot, not just settling. He’s just so good and so physically gifted at doing it. Uh we’re seeing I mean we’ve seen all the rebound defense. There’s nothing he can’t do. Yeah. He said that Jock said he’s either a 22-y old vet or a 40-year-old rookie. I would say a 22-y old vet. All right. I want him to still be young. Do you like the Kawaii comps? I do. I mean, I I You You always like the comps to be somebody good. Someone Exactly. That means the alternative. You like You like to be someone good, but also be a a real comp. Yes. Like Like it’s something. and and watching him the last couple of games with the mid-range game is when early on it’s like okay you see the walk you got the arms are longer the shoulders are broad okay I can see it but it’s like but on the basketball side let’s I got to wait let’s wait but you you you once you start to see that the little baseline fake fade on the baseline it’s like there there’s that’s nice and then once they matched up headtohead and then for said to have the game that it was like, yeah, that steal at midc court was just like, oh, a little Spider-Man meme situation. Well, and then the way that they the the talk that they had with one another afterwards, um, yeah, he listen, he’s on he is on the the the right trajectory to be a special player in this league. Before I let you go and get out of here, has there been one player who has surprised you the most for the Grizzlies this season in their contributions? I mean, I I would definitely would say it’s been Cam and what he what he has been able to do at the uh percentage that he’s been able to do it with the rate of use. Um, and a lot of it was because I didn’t know what his role would be. Um, I mean, I had the joy of being able to watch him play for a couple seasons in college. I knew the type of player he was. I didn’t know if he was going to be able to get his shots off as well as he’s been able to get his shots off. Um, with the time given, he’s he’s really put the work in in terms of getting the shot off quicker and understanding that every shot is not going to be a wide open shot and and and I so I think he’s gotten good at being able to make contested shots also. And and then there’s been the playmaking side um which is because he’s a he’s a he’s a IQ basketball player. I know everybody talks about all of the work that he puts in in the gym. He’s in the gym for this long, he does all that. But uh but a lot of that also is he is creating scenarios in his head while working out. And so while doing that, that is also working on the the basketball team side of the game also. And so I think by just being able to do that um and the function of the offense, it just fits his game. and and he’s also the other thing he’s done a good job of is limiting uh the defensive liability side where teams are trying to seek you out on that end and he’s done a good job of keeping guys in front being physical when he needs to showing hard so he can get back to the matchup that they want and not staying on a primary. So, I I just think his his total contribution, not just the shooting, the scoring. I knew that’s what he could do, but I think everything um he he’s he stood out probably the most. We talked about the Thunder being in a league of their own right now. Who’s in that next tier in the West for you? Uh Denver. Okay. Is is there uh I Houston is a is just a funky team uh for me. the Lakers are are going to be I just don’t the Lakers are are because they can score as well. I just think the lack of size is something that is again is going to be going to be something that’s going to to hurt them and they they can’t continue to try to play Yeah. Uh play that small. Um I I you know what team is is is a is a funny team is Phoenix. They are. Um, and and then the San Antonio is is I think those are your next those are your next surprised people to the point where the Grizzlies thought, “Hey, we’re we’re money in the bank with this pick next year.” And the excitement of what that season was going to lead to and suddenly you look up and you say, “Wait, they were supposed to be bad.” And and I know they just got killed by the Thunder last night, but who amongst us has not? Exactly. And I think that they are Did Devin Booker play? I think he did play. Okay. I know. I saw I thought he they but they’re probably they’re probably the team that’s below those other teams. Oh, no. I guess he Yeah. No, he didn’t. He didn’t. That’s why that’s why Grayson. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I thought Yeah, I thought I thought he was. So, you of course you don’t have your best guy and you playing against the best team, but I think they’re they’re probably right below that. I think those like I said that Denver San Antonio team that I’m not the Warriors thing for me is not I am sustainable that my husband is also he’s ready to Yeah. I I just I think that it’s Yeah, I think that they’ve The mess up for me is the Kaminga situation. It’s it’s just it’s holding this cloud too, right? It’s like e either you we all see how good he is like there there has to there has to he has to either be more mature. They have to be more mature and say move on from it. But I think it just has their team because at the end of the day after Steph, he’s probably their best player if you want to say just by talent and what they can do on both ends of the floor. He probably is that. But it’s like do you push him to be that? Does is he not that? What? Yeah. I don’t there’s always something like the other day his head was hanging on the bench and Draymond’s trying to give him advice and it just feels it’s too soap operish. It’s too it’s it’s like it’s in a soap opera league. It is very soap opera. So I leave them to the side. But yeah, I but the thing I like I like where this I thought this team was going to be a I thought a seven to 10 team at the beginning of the year with what what we had. Um I think we can you start to say okay you can maybe be a out of the playin situation but you got to get the John Jiren that has to you solidify that situation. you ever to get that to be our the finishing and comfortable with the during the game and how we finish and just that oh it it could it could be very dangerous. Well, hopefully step one is seeing them on together Friday. We’ll cross our fingers. We’ll wait for that Grizz PR update. Brevin, always a joy to have you in studio. Thanks for having me. Look, whenever I get the text, whenever I see and it’s like CJ, I’m like, “Oh, I can go.” It’s time. It’s time. But we always have you. We just like to leave your schedule open for important things like a nice 18 on a crisp morning whenever you want to go. But we have you anytime. Everyone always enjoys it. The chat is like we love brev. We’ll see you tomorrow here at Fedic Forum Grizzlies Jazz. We will see everybody tomorrow. It will be a Friday. It’ll be a Grizzlies game day. Hopefully we get some news on the John front, but we will close out the week. Have a wonderful rest of your day. We’ll see you later. CJ, touch some grass. Bye. Can’t I got to find a coach? There’s no time to touch grass. What are you talking about? What do you think I’ve been over here doing the whole show? Been looking for coaches. [Music]
start set the show
00:05:00 Cedric Coward
00:24:00 Teresa Walker
Diego Pavia for Heisman
Michigan fired Sherrone Moore
Notre Dame fails to get into the CFP
Titans talk
00:50:00 Charles Huff’s introductory presser
01:01:00 Brevin Knight
Thunder’s early season dominance
LeBron’s poster
Ja Morant’s imminent return
Grizzlies supporting cast stepping up
JJJ trying to find his best version
Cedric Coward’s impact
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6 comments
This guy is HIM
Bruh. The lack of idol-gazing, the desire to be a leader, talking to vets about financial stuff. This guy is wired the exact right way
Scotty can't even walk & Ced wouldn't get his bags 😂😂
Im loving what im seeing and hearing from this kid i haven't found a knock on him yet
Literally the goat btw
This young man will grow up older as a talent great baller like Kevin Durant he just ain't playing like it but trust me he will get to that level that Kevin Durant is on trust me with a ring