Seems a steep AAV compared to projections, right? For some reason I was thinking $13-17mm was the range.
The Mets are kinda weird. They dont want to give out long terms so it looks like they pushed the annual value higher.
I would’ve been happy to sign someone like Polanco but I don’t particularly care about missing out on Polanco specifically.
I am getting annoyed
You have to overpay for someone to get them to come here
Okay Mackey, that means we are guaranteed to land both Lowe and Suarez then, right?
Talk talk talk…. Waka waka waka… some of us are being proven very right this off-season. Talk is cheap. Results are all that counts and if Ben doesn’t sign a major player, he shouldn’t make spring training. Period.
this sub is all posting names weve targeted going to other teams i hate this it feels like cuck shit
Don’t worry I’m sure they’ll get the next guy, their history certainly shows that!
Thank god. He’s overrated. Especially at that price
Hey but at least we “”””tried””””
Steamer projections, 2026:
Polanco: .253/.329/.443 1.9 fWAR
Gonzales: .263/.318/.401 1.5 fWAR
I’m not making a totally sincere comparison — Polanco’s power would be a huge upgrade in the lineup and defense be damned. But he simply isn’t that good. $20M/year is batshit.
I’m keeping my pitchfork in the barn for a while. There are a lot of guys I think would be better upgrades still on the board. If they don’t get any of them, the pitchfork’s ready.
I have a feeling this will end up like last winter. One trade of significance, followed by a bunch of fourth-tier free agent signings in February.
Okay can teams stop overpaying for our targets. We’re finally trying to pay market price and everyone’s bidding higher. They’re clearly all scared of the buccos
I understand people want the pirates to get free agents, but remember FA’s have their own free will. There’s been smoke for years that many FA frankly just don’t want to live in Pittsburgh (no substantial Spanish-speaking community) and we obviously aren’t luring people here with the prospect of winning. I don’t know if that’s the case here, but it’s frequent enough that imo it’s look at whether we actually going after FA with fair market value than at looking at individual deals under a microscope
Almost had him! We tried!!!1!1
He could’ve outbid it. He possibly did. Polanco still wouldn’t have signed here.
Players want to play for winning organizations that treat their players right and care about winning. We aren’t one of those organizations.
When are the delusional fans going to wake up and realize this? There’s no point in making posts like this. There’s no hope we’re getting anyone significant this offseason.
Fuck me. I’m not getting my hopes uo for anything now until it actually happens
Just missed, again and again and again. But hey, we tried
Looks like a typical pirates off-season. Business as usual
That is a desperate move by the Mets to get good PR after losing Alonzo and Diaz
That’s an insane contract for Polanco. The pirates don’t have that for him
“Wants to go to a winner”
*Joins the Mets
Everyone, please stop getting your hopes up. They aren’t signing anybody worth getting excited about.
Totally fine not outbidding that for Polanco who was never a great fit and didn’t want to come here anyway but MUST get 2 of Suarez, Lowe, and O’Hearn now. I truly don’t know why O’Hearn wasn’t signed immediately. He’s an exact fit and the right price.
ah, just missed him
Okay now can we please start taking the last of the decent middle tier bats remaining?
Hahahaha love it. Nutting signing no one
All these fans complaining it would’ve been an over pay absolutely infuriate me.
There is no cap, and Nutting has been pocketing your money for decades. He can, needs to, and SHOULD overpay to over compensate for years of under paying. Isn’t that why small market teams hoard cash in non competitive years? So they can splurge when they have once in a lifetime opportunities (like Skenes).
And so what if we overpay? Oh no we’ll face years of potential bad pirate teams? COULD YOU IMAGINE?!?
Stop rooting for the billionaire and start rooting for a world series.
Why would Ben even want to give Polanco 21-25 million a year for 2 years? He comes with health issues, slower bat speed and pull reliant, below average defense, zero speed as his baserunning ability has diminished.
No thanks…
The positives so far are that I haven’t really felt bad about missing out on anyone yet… like I would’ve been stoked to have gotten any of Schwarber/Alonso/Polanco because it means we did something legit for once, but I also see major issues with each guy that I’m fine with not giving them big $
…but the negative is obviously that we haven’t done shit to make the team better outside of, potentially, the Oviedo trade. I know expectations are skewed by all the reports of INTEREST, but I actually have a little bit of hope for once… so I’m gonna actually be genuinely disappointed once guys like ROH or Lowe or etc. start to go elsewhere. I hope that isn’t the case, and I hope we can make a move soon to get morale up and be proven that they’re not gonna just do the same ol’ bullshit…. Because if that ends up being the case, it might finally be time that I step away from this franchise lol
I didn’t cry at 8 years old over us trading Brian Giles, then again at 23 when we traded Cutch, to still be waiting around for this franchise to give a damn about us all these years later lol
Now if we don’t add both Suarez and Lowe, how will I ever manage to “take the Pirates seriously”?
gotta overpay to play. it’s our reality. do something!!!!!
Pirates fans be like “PHEW thank god the pirates didnt overpay a player!” As the team finishes with the worst offense in baseball again 😂
Nobody wants to sign with this garbage organization. They fucked themselves with guys like Rowdy and IKF. We will have to overpay if we want somebody and bargain Ben wants to a steal so good luck. My optimism is fading, and it didnt take long.
Often injured. Maybe we dodged a bullet on a longer contract I guess.
What a ridiculous overpay for a guy who has had 3 good seasons in 12 years.
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Seems a steep AAV compared to projections, right? For some reason I was thinking $13-17mm was the range.
The Mets are kinda weird. They dont want to give out long terms so it looks like they pushed the annual value higher.
I would’ve been happy to sign someone like Polanco but I don’t particularly care about missing out on Polanco specifically.
I am getting annoyed
You have to overpay for someone to get them to come here
Okay Mackey, that means we are guaranteed to land both Lowe and Suarez then, right?
Talk talk talk…. Waka waka waka… some of us are being proven very right this off-season. Talk is cheap. Results are all that counts and if Ben doesn’t sign a major player, he shouldn’t make spring training. Period.
this sub is all posting names weve targeted going to other teams i hate this it feels like cuck shit
Don’t worry I’m sure they’ll get the next guy, their history certainly shows that!
Thank god. He’s overrated. Especially at that price
Hey but at least we “”””tried””””
Steamer projections, 2026:
Polanco: .253/.329/.443 1.9 fWAR
Gonzales: .263/.318/.401 1.5 fWAR
I’m not making a totally sincere comparison — Polanco’s power would be a huge upgrade in the lineup and defense be damned. But he simply isn’t that good. $20M/year is batshit.
I’m keeping my pitchfork in the barn for a while. There are a lot of guys I think would be better upgrades still on the board. If they don’t get any of them, the pitchfork’s ready.
I have a feeling this will end up like last winter. One trade of significance, followed by a bunch of fourth-tier free agent signings in February.
Okay can teams stop overpaying for our targets. We’re finally trying to pay market price and everyone’s bidding higher. They’re clearly all scared of the buccos
I understand people want the pirates to get free agents, but remember FA’s have their own free will. There’s been smoke for years that many FA frankly just don’t want to live in Pittsburgh (no substantial Spanish-speaking community) and we obviously aren’t luring people here with the prospect of winning. I don’t know if that’s the case here, but it’s frequent enough that imo it’s look at whether we actually going after FA with fair market value than at looking at individual deals under a microscope
Almost had him! We tried!!!1!1
He could’ve outbid it. He possibly did. Polanco still wouldn’t have signed here.
Players want to play for winning organizations that treat their players right and care about winning. We aren’t one of those organizations.
When are the delusional fans going to wake up and realize this? There’s no point in making posts like this. There’s no hope we’re getting anyone significant this offseason.
Fuck me. I’m not getting my hopes uo for anything now until it actually happens
Just missed, again and again and again. But hey, we tried
Looks like a typical pirates off-season. Business as usual
That is a desperate move by the Mets to get good PR after losing Alonzo and Diaz
That’s an insane contract for Polanco. The pirates don’t have that for him
“Wants to go to a winner”
*Joins the Mets
Everyone, please stop getting your hopes up. They aren’t signing anybody worth getting excited about.
Totally fine not outbidding that for Polanco who was never a great fit and didn’t want to come here anyway but MUST get 2 of Suarez, Lowe, and O’Hearn now. I truly don’t know why O’Hearn wasn’t signed immediately. He’s an exact fit and the right price.
ah, just missed him
Okay now can we please start taking the last of the decent middle tier bats remaining?
Hahahaha love it. Nutting signing no one
All these fans complaining it would’ve been an over pay absolutely infuriate me.
There is no cap, and Nutting has been pocketing your money for decades. He can, needs to, and SHOULD overpay to over compensate for years of under paying. Isn’t that why small market teams hoard cash in non competitive years? So they can splurge when they have once in a lifetime opportunities (like Skenes).
And so what if we overpay? Oh no we’ll face years of potential bad pirate teams? COULD YOU IMAGINE?!?
Stop rooting for the billionaire and start rooting for a world series.
Why would Ben even want to give Polanco 21-25 million a year for 2 years? He comes with health issues, slower bat speed and pull reliant, below average defense, zero speed as his baserunning ability has diminished.
No thanks…
The positives so far are that I haven’t really felt bad about missing out on anyone yet… like I would’ve been stoked to have gotten any of Schwarber/Alonso/Polanco because it means we did something legit for once, but I also see major issues with each guy that I’m fine with not giving them big $
…but the negative is obviously that we haven’t done shit to make the team better outside of, potentially, the Oviedo trade. I know expectations are skewed by all the reports of INTEREST, but I actually have a little bit of hope for once… so I’m gonna actually be genuinely disappointed once guys like ROH or Lowe or etc. start to go elsewhere. I hope that isn’t the case, and I hope we can make a move soon to get morale up and be proven that they’re not gonna just do the same ol’ bullshit…. Because if that ends up being the case, it might finally be time that I step away from this franchise lol
I didn’t cry at 8 years old over us trading Brian Giles, then again at 23 when we traded Cutch, to still be waiting around for this franchise to give a damn about us all these years later lol
Now if we don’t add both Suarez and Lowe, how will I ever manage to “take the Pirates seriously”?
gotta overpay to play. it’s our reality. do something!!!!!
Pirates fans be like “PHEW thank god the pirates didnt overpay a player!” As the team finishes with the worst offense in baseball again 😂
Nobody wants to sign with this garbage organization. They fucked themselves with guys like Rowdy and IKF. We will have to overpay if we want somebody and bargain Ben wants to a steal so good luck. My optimism is fading, and it didnt take long.
Often injured. Maybe we dodged a bullet on a longer contract I guess.
What a ridiculous overpay for a guy who has had 3 good seasons in 12 years.