Is Tyler Shough The Answer In New Orleans? 😳

Is Tyler Shough The Answer In New Orleans? 😳

There was big news yesterday. The New Orleans Saints officially benching Spencer Rattler going with Tyler Shuck, the rookie second rounder out of Louisville. And who better to break it down than Nick Underh Hill who’s on the Saints beat, knows it all, has his own van where he reports directly from right outside practice. New Orleans football. Uh Nick, welcome to the show and uh tell everybody where you’re from, what you’re doing, and uh promote all your stuff, man. Doing great. Yeah, we just cover the one win Saints. Um, like you know, it’s the most important thing in the world every single day, all day. Uh, podcast channel. Um, breaking it down, all the analysis, all the news. Not a lot of fun right now watching this team, but it’s at least they’re interesting. You know, that you have the the new quarterback situation and then possibly the pursuit of the number one pick if they don’t win the uh they kind of got the NIT tournament coming up here in the back half of the the season playing the Dolphins, the Titans, and the Jets for the number one pick. So, um, it’s kind of like like relegation in the Premier League, I guess, in the back half of the season. So, at least the Saint season isn’t isn’t totally boring, but, um, not a lot of good football being played right now. Relegation, six-pointers, that’s what they call them. I I love that we since we preview every game. It’s right around this time of year. We’re previewing those teams, the Saints, the Jets. We’re like, well, uh, Dante Moore’s playing this weekend in a big g, you know, it’s like, what should you watch? Maybe some of the college quarterbacks, which I do want to get to in a second. Uh, so Tyler Shuck officially named the starter. Were you surprised at how this all went down? Like what what was what went into this decision here for the Saints? I’m not going to lie, like it kind of shocked me how it how it happened. I wasn’t expecting it to be like in the in the middle of a game. I thought it would be maybe a ramp up. Maybe we’d hear he took, hey, he took 15 snaps with the starters this week and then going into the the Panthers game. I thought maybe that was the date where we’d see it. He hasn’t practiced with the starters the whole entire season. So, it was just kind of like we need a spark and they threw him out there. And I I didn’t expect it to to play out like that. And especially because a lot of the stuff they’ve been doing this season hasn’t been all in on just trying to get a win at all cost. Like Blake Groupy struggled making kicks, but they believe in him. So, they’ve let him kick through it even though he’s missed kicks, I think, in six games now this season. And just kind of that ideal married with the idea of like, hey, just throw the quarterback in there for a spark. It it surprised me. But, I mean, once you do it, that’s it. Like I wasn’t surprised to yesterday when the uh decision came out. It felt like once you make that move, you got to ride with it because you’re just going to make it a bigger mess if you try to go back and forth back and forth. You’re going to create fractions in the locker room. I mean, there’s Chuck guys, there there’s Rattler guys, and like I I think if you just fan those flames, like it just gets ugly. So, they’re here now. Um we’re going to see how it goes. I think they had to find out. You know, we we just mentioned where they’re at. They’re they draft today. They’re picking first. Like, you have to know what you have in the building. But I was definitely surprised how it happened and man it was like that New England game hit and it was oh man like is there something here? Could he build on this? And then two weeks later it’s just it’s over that quick. I’m I’m really surprised by the timeline on this. Take us back to the the preeason training camp all that kind of time. Um my read on that whole situation was you know Tyler Shuck drafted where he was. I think they kind of expected or wanted him to win that job and then at no point in preseason in training camp did it look like that was really going to happen. They gave him every opportunity and eventually they just went, “Okay, fine. We we basically have to go with Rattler.” Um and then Rattler actually played pretty well to start the season and all of a sudden, you know, we were having conversations about how look, it’s early, it’s only a few games, but Rattler might make this an interesting discussion by the end of the season if he keeps playing this way. And then obviously he just internally did not have that kind of rope. They were like the second he started playing badly the ro the rug got pulled out from under him and we went with Shuck. But is that an accurate read by your interpretation? Was this supposed to be Shuck’s job and then you know Rattler the combination of Shuck not earning it and Rattler playing pretty well kind of forced their hand. Yeah, I I think definitely I mean they drafted him at 40 and I felt like they were giving him every opportunity to win that job. that was their guy, their handpicked guy. Rattler was drafted by by Dennis Allen. Um, so definitely I I always felt like if it was Bear, like it was it was his job to take. I just don’t think it got there in uh training camp. Like he kind of looked exactly like he he looked in college. Like the highs were really high. Like the arms good. He’s aggressive going down field. He can move a little bit, but like there were the panic plays and some of the mistakes. I hate to use the word goofy, but like he had like goofy mistakes. like the kind of stuff that you know if there were cameras on it like it ends up going viral like that kind of stuff just under pressure flinging a ball to somebody you know stuff like that and you saw some of that in college too. Um I think you even saw some of that on Sunday like he’s aggressive going down the field. It felt like it really felt like some air went into the balloon when he went into the game and like the the range of variances of outcomes just expanded both good and bad and it’s like okay they were one for 25 on third and long coming into that game I believe and like now suddenly on third down like you’re getting shots down the field a little bit and that gives you a chance to extend drives but then like he’s under pressure and it just looks like stuff gets sped up and he’s like spinning out of it and flings a sidearm throw out like there’s a throw that hit a guy in the back um you know so I just I think it’s just kind of calming him down a little bit, but that’s how it looked in camp. I I expect honestly like over the next few games. I I I expect mistakes like they’re playing the Rams uh this weekend. I don’t expect that to be a a great game. I I think he’s going to be someone that like you have to rein back in a little bit where with Rattler, I think it was kind of like, all right, you’re great from from zero to 10 yards. Like how do you get that 15 yard throw? How do you manufacture an explosive? It’s third and eight. like how how did you know how did the Saints get him to throw beyond the sticks? Like those were the issues they were kind of having. It felt like really tight. And I think part of Rattler’s approach to things is just kind of the history of like he’s at Oklahoma, he loses his job, he’s here, they draft his replacement. I think he was kind of playing in a in a manner to where like he was squatting in the house and he was making sure like nobody could evict him and when it came time to open it up a little bit like things got a little bit messy and as soon as it got messy like they put him out of there. So yeah, I mean I think in in some sense like there definitely probably was an itchiness to find out what you had with the guy that you went out, you scouted, you picked and you know from my reporting um I I think they liked him better than all the quarterbacks except for Cam Ward. So really quick, I mean we took there was that play that Chuck had his um second to last season where he just kind of literally just panic threw it up under pressure and Sam and I may have mentioned that play too much in the evaluation. And it’s like, look, there’s a lot to like about Tyler Shuck, but there’s a few plays on film that are very concerning. The panic plays. Are you saying that those were showing up in training camp quite a bit as well? Uh, I wouldn’t say quite a bit, but I mean, there was probably like three or four of them, which I guess over a course of a month is, you know, a pretty a pretty good amount. Um, definitely definitely they were out there and it was it was all cut from that same that same exact cloth. Like, yeah, the play, everybody knows the play. We’ve all seen the the play like and yeah, it was kind of the same thing. It’s just like, man, this is this is happening. Then, okay, how do you how do you correct this? They talk about it and then it comes back and like a week later you see it again. You know, I think that’s just kind of going to be something that that happens with him. And I think that’s going to be what decides whether he’s successful or not, honestly, is like it’s just that one piece cuz I think he can go out there. I think he can play and he can be viable. If you don’t want to draft Fernando Mendoza, like if you can clean that up, maybe you have a guy there that that you can ride with for a year and then maybe look at the next year quarterbacks. But um yeah, I think I think that’s going to be a tough tough thing to get rid of and and there were a couple in this game like where it’s like you’re watching them and immediately you’re thinking of the the clips that you seen from college that that weren’t good and it’s just like you’re you’re going to ride the rails like this, huh? Um so yeah, I mean I think that’s going to be the big thing with them going forward. Hey guys, real quick. Only 40% of our viewers are actually subscribed. So let’s change that. Hit that subscribe button and now let’s get back to the action. It was such a weird thing. like we we spent a lot of time talking about it, but it’s because it’s such a confusing thing where you’re right, he didn’t have that many of them. It’s just that the ones that he had were cartoon levels of ridiculous. And the question is, you know, you’re talking about kind of getting that how do you get that out of somebody? Like the the one play, the worst one of all of them was so bad that I genuinely have time for an argument that that on its own is disqualifying. Like if you showed me this play on its own and even if you told me he’s got 3,000 snaps that are really good and then this one bad play, right? I would I would have time for an argument that somebody that is capable of that play simply cannot be an NFL quarterback at a high level. And but on the the flip side of that ledger is I remember in a playoff game Josh Allen, you know, face first falling over trying to like backhand an offload to a tight end and just turning the ball straight over. And now Josh Allen’s become, you know, an MVP, one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. So clearly it’s possible to change that kind of thing. Where do you stand on like is that something you can get out of him? Is that something that takes three years like it did with Josh Allen? Like that’s the tough decision with a guy like Shuck. I’m not like trying to be funny here. Like it can’t take three years. He’s 26 years old. Like it it kind of kind of kind of has to happen quickly. Um you know, it’s you got to see it soon. Um I don’t know. I I I don’t have the answer for that. I think, you know, seeing it in camp kind of made me a little bit worried. I I saw it a couple times and that was enough for me to sit there and be like, is this going to work just off of that? And there was a lot of good like his arm is really good. He can he can run more than I think people probably realize. Like um he’s big like he he’s he’s decent in the in the you know the pocket at times except for the times when when he just really isn’t. And I don’t know how you fix that really isn’t part of it. But whatever it is like it has to happen almost immediately. And again like I think putting him into this game um was kind of unfair. I thought he handled it pretty well considering, but like you’re down in a game against an aggressive pass rush and you’re just throwing the guy into the pocket um that that panics in the pocket at times and saying, “Hey, throw the ball, you know, 35 times in in 25 minutes of game action.” Like, it just did not feel like the best laid plan. And then now rolling him out there for his first real start against the Rams in that pass rush. That doesn’t feel like like maybe the the best way for him to get some success underneath him like I would have done the Panthers game. Then you got the bye-week to evaluate it. You come out of it a bunch of cupcakes and you got the Bucks again in the back half. Um, let him get some good tape, good feel going before that. I I’m I’m baffled by how this this went down just because of that that piece of it. Like I think it’s very important for him to build confidence in there and just feel that and then build off of that. But he’s going to be under fire from day one. And look, I wonder like I I I do wonder how he’s going to hold up, you know, with with Jared Burst coming at him uh this weekend cuz it’s going to happen. And they’re down their center and their offensive line historically they did okay last week with Fortner standing in there. They traded for him from uh Jacksonville, but historically like they’ve been really disorganized on the offensive line without Eric McCoy. So it’s going to be really really interesting to see how how this thing holds up this weekend. Um, so do you believe Chuck, I mean, they spent pick 40 and you said, “Hey, they really liked him. This was their guy.” I know you were one of the first, if we go back before draft time, a lot of people expected Chadur Sanders to still go in the in the top 10. Um, the Saints had pick number nine. I think you were pretty early reporting, hey, he’s not going to the Saints at nine. And then pretty early kind of hinting at was it Jackson Dart and Tyler Shock that they were both in on at 40? Is that am I remembering that right? Yeah, they liked them both, but I mean everything I heard was was that if they were both there, they were going to take Shock first is really how I heard it. Um, and I, you know, I heard that like way before like way before the pick. That isn’t like, oh, this is a guy they ended up with and they wanted go, yeah, I mean, I remember whatever you could report on, I remember you hinting at it well before the draft and that made me think like, okay, I know the Saints for sure are out on Shadur Sanders. I didn’t know the whole league was going to be, but I knew the Saints were based off everything you were reporting at the time. Yeah, that was their guy. And like he went in, they kind of had like a a quiet meeting. I heard like the way the meeting went down is basically a lot of times when these guys come in, they meet with like everybody and they kind of go through the car wash and they try to reach like a consensus on the opinion. The way I heard this one went down is like he basically came in, went into a room with Kell Moore, they watch tape, he put them up on the board, and it was just like those two locked in, shuck leaves, and like that was the guy. Um like I think they just really liked his his maturity, the way he plays and um you know the the the fact that he was like hurt throughout his college career and just battled adversity was something that they really like too cuz they felt like he could come in and maybe maybe handle the ups and downs that come with like leading a team through a rebuild. But you know obviously we got to see if the the play warrants uh you know that level of faith in them. Um over at New Orleans football I think you guys did some work on the top draft prospects. So, I mean, when you’re covering the Saints, obviously you guys have to at this point with a one- win team have an eye toward the draft. Any early feelings here? You’ve got Tyler Shuck probably, you know, this is a halfyear test. Um, I don’t know if they’re abs he’s pick 40. Like, is are they absolutely committed to him next year and then a lot of the quarterbacks that were expected to go in the top 10 next year have not panned out. any feel for the quart quarterback class at this time and how in the Saints are going to be as far as evaluating and then putting those quarterbacks up against what Chuck’s going to do here in the second half? Yeah, I’ve been flying out every Saturday to like watch the the college QVs and then flying back uh you know on the red eyee and then covering the Saints game on Sunday. Um just cuz like it feels like that’s where it’s at and these are the conversations we’re going to be having and I want to like make sure I’m actually putting eyes on these guys. Um I really Fernando Mendo I really like Fernando Mendoza. Like I he he’s the guy if I were picking like I would probably make my bet on him because like I I just feel like even the offense they’re running like it’s kind of very similar to the same exact stuff that that K Moore is doing. A lot of shotgun a lot of RPOS’s. I think he just gives you the best package of like size, arm strength, enough running ability. Um and he just seems kind of put together. I I like Dante Moore a lot, but like I I was at that Oregon game and like the good on good matchup. I don’t know if I just caught it on a bad day, but like it just like I wasn’t blown away. It just kind of felt like a very punchless performance. There was some good stuff in it, but um you know, he he’s obviously looked really good at other times. Um I went and watched Tai Simpson recently. I like him quite a bit. The processing seems good. It’s just he’s smaller and if I’m like pick him first, I don’t know. Um I guess maybe that’s a little bit outdated in in today’s NFL, too. like you don’t necessarily got to be Payton Manning in the pocket, but um you know the size aspect of that and I just want to see more. He’s like got eight college starts. You just got to see how it kind of builds for him over time. Um today I I say I take Mendoza, but like you know by by the Big 10 SEC Championship game time. Maybe that flips a little bit. The person I really want to be good is Lenor Sellers. like he he looks like Superman out there and it just feels like he needs to learn like you know he might be the have the best arm but I don’t know if he’s like the best thrower like and I think there’s a difference between that and you got to kind of figure out how to use your superpowers when the hey my legs are working I’m just going to run down their throat. Um you know I think you just kind of has to learn how to be like a football player more than just like a great athlete. And honestly, like if I were him, I I stay in and I I’m like trying to go to Miami and take Carson Beck’s spot or go somewhere else cuz I think their offense is kind of a mess, too. But um you know, I I I do think that they’re going to be they got to be looking if they aren’t looking, it’s malpractice. Like if you’re going to have a top two, three pick, which it seems like a a lock at this point. And if you aren’t evaluating um you know Tyler Shuck against Dante Moore and Mendoza and Simpson and and all these guys, I like I don’t really know like what the direction your team is at that point. Um because it’s not just, you know, this might be the chance to get a top 10 guy. And I think look, let’s say Shuck ends up being the 18th best quarterback in the league. I think there’s a massive difference between guy 10 and guy 18 or even, you know, guy five and guy 18. Guy 10’s what, Jared Goff and guy 18’s Kyler Murray. like it’s just a it’s a massive difference and if you have a chance to upgrade that position like you have to be taking it you know deadly seriously. So I I would imagine they’re in that market um again this year if if this doesn’t look like it’s going anywhere and even if it is decent like I still think you got to say hey like which way which way is better here. Um so yeah I think they’re definitely going to be looking. Um, is there a chance that they kind of look at the way quarterbacks have gone the last couple of years in terms of these reclamation projects and say actually the best use of the first overall pick if we end up with that is trade down, take the hall, try and fix the team first and then look for our Daniel Jones, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield. like let’s try and find our reclamation guy that can step into a good situation as opposed to yeah we just upgraded quarterback but the situation still isn’t good enough for this guy to succeed right now and we just do the same old dance that you know teams have been doing at the top of the draft for years. Yeah, I think that’s hugely hugely hugely possible. Well, it’s something they they’ve talked about, Kell Moore’s talked about quite a bit. Like he he points to those guys all the time, and he’s constantly pointing out how that’s kind of the uh the trend of the season, the trend of the league, and all that stuff. And um you know, he he’s he’s young obviously, but he’s like a you know, he he’s a he’s a modern thinker of the game. He talks about it, you know, much in the same way like when I listen to you guy, like he’s just kind of he just feels like somebody that grew up with all the stuff we grew up with and and kind of has that viewpoint on things. So definitely something that I think that that they’ll be looking at is is well. I mean that that’s definitely on the table. And yeah, look, they need everything. Like if we did an exercise right now and said like one guy’s doing the uh it’s an expansion draft and one person’s protecting players and one person’s drafting players like from the rest of the league. I don’t know if you get to a Saint like you know and I don’t know if there’s anyone that you’d be like we have to protect this player could absolutely cannot lose him. Um it’s just kind of where it’s at. It’s kind of hard to get to the position they’re in right now, too. Like they don’t have star players. Their best player right now might be Chase Young. Um, and outside of that, it’s like, you know, Calvin Banks and Tali Puaga who have shown promise, but you know, in that expansion draft exercise, like you aren’t getting to them. And I going on from there, like I I I don’t know who you’d take or who you’d protect or, you know, even with the trade deadline, who’s untouchable. I I don’t think they have a single player where you’re like, “Oh, no, they can’t trade him.” Like they they all could go. So yeah, if there’s a a tradeown scenario and you do like actually have the Daniel Jones type player there, definitely something that I think you have to consider cuz like you need everything across the board right now. You’re you’re a pro, Nick. I was going to ask you about the trade trade deadline next, particularly the uh the receiver names that have come up. Chris Al, Rasheed Shahid, we call him the great Rashid Shahed, even if he’s not having as dominant a season as he usually has. Um who’s on who you hearing? Who’s on the market here? And do you think the trade the Saints would part ways with one or both of those receivers or do they need to be a part of this rebuild? Yeah, I think I think they’d be willing to part with him if the uh the compensation’s right. Uh especially Shahed, he’s a free agent after this year. If you could, I don’t know, lock in the fourth, like that’s probably what they would get back in a comp pick if he were to leave. I think they would do it because then that then you can go out and you can spend your money. You aren’t worried about protecting that asset. Um so I think I think they would definitely do it with him. Um, Brandon Cooks is someone that I could definitely see getting traded to, you know, as a I don’t even understand how how he fits. Yeah. I think it’d be the fifth time. He He just doesn’t fit this team. Like, they signed him when when they had Derek Carr still and then Carr retires and it’s just like, okay, like Brandon Cooks is here. Why? Um, and he just, you know, good player, good leadership. I but I just don’t think he he fits what they’re doing. I don’t think you need three guys that are like the exact same body type at receiver. It’d be a tough trade to to let Shahed go for a fourth because for some weird reason they gave up a fourth for Devon Ble who has 39 yards I think in half a season. Um very very odd trade to make but um I I I don’t think you can really let that influence like your return on your player even because you screwed up this trade. But yeah, I think both those guys could go. Pete Werner is another one that I kind of got an eye on the linebacker. Um they signed him to an extension last year and they’ve just been trying to work in Danny Stzman uh their fifth round pick this year and Isaiah Stalber UDFA they like a lot kind of been taking stops from Warner to get those guys on the field. So writing kind of seems to be on the wall there that they want to go another direction and you know I think Warner has some some type of value probably to somebody in the league. Uh last thing I wanted to ask about Mickey Lumis general manager and just the general uh team building strategy. Of course, the Saints unique in how they’ve attacked everything in the last decade plus. They had Drew Brees. They went all in. They had fewer draft picks than everybody. They had a stretch of time where they had fewer draft picks, but hit at a higher rate, which the the nerds would say, “Well, that’s not sustainable. You got to draft in volume. You can’t always bank on your evaluations.” They’ve slowed down in their hit rate in recent years when it comes to the draft. And then there was a point where it’s like, “All right, we don’t have the veteran quarterback anymore. We’re in rebuild mode.” Are they really in rebuild mode? Still feels like they’ve been a little half in half out and they’re they’re not. Are they finally going to be at this point where it’s like we’re going to draft 12 times over a two-year stretch and really rebuild this thing or is there still like a little one foot in one foot out when it comes to Mickey and the way they’re handling things in the front office? Yeah, it’ll be interesting. Like I think people would probably be surprised to know that they got the same record as the Browns since 21. Like so it really has not been it really has not been going well. The last eight drafts really have not went well. I don’t think they’ve had a good draft since uh 17. Really, the only first round pick they’ve hit on since then is is a and he has injury issues and he’s kind of having a weird season right now. So, that that’s even kind of, you know, the hit rate for for where they picked him. I I don’t know if it’s hit as hard as it as it should have. Even though I think, you know, on any Sunday, like he does look great sometimes. But, um yeah, one foot in, one foot out. I think that’s going to be determined with with the draft because that’s really where we see it like this pension for just always moving up every single year. Um, you know, I it looks to me like they’re kind of into the rebuild right now, but again, it’s it’s a reluctant rebuild. Like they did not plan to get here. Derek Carr suddenly retires um has the injury and then they’re forced to move on. And look, they they that kind of worked out for him the way it played out cuz you got to do the like the June 1st thing and then he leaves, you get the money back. Like they had the luckiest cap management in the world with that situation. But like this was not a hey, we’re moving on from from from Derek Carr and getting younger. Like this was oh Derek Carr left and we had just signed Brandon Cooks and we had just signed Justin Reed and like now it’s kind of like this weird build of a roster and it’s it’s the reluctant rebuild. But I think now that they’re here, like they’re forced to go into it. Um, you know, I I think Tuesday is going to be interesting to see kind of what they do. Um, cuz I think you have to move a couple pieces and get a couple assets back. You know, even if it’s just like the Latimore trade from last year where it’s one thing and you get a couple couple picks. Um but look, the first move they they made in this rebuild is sending a fourth and a seventh to Denver for Devon Bailey, which you know, 27 years old, um one year with Shawn Payeyton. Like they they should know what Shawn does with receivers. Like it it kind of felt like, you know, are they trading for Marquez Callaway? And it turns out like it’s it’s not even that right now. There’s a half a season left. Maybe he has better chemistry with Shuck. Maybe he gets going. But that felt like a weird move, you know, at the beginning of it, which kind of if you’re looking for a like, hey, one direction, one point of view, like going to do this the right way. That that was one where where I think you have a little bit of apprehension about that, you know, the thought process behind some of this stuff. So, um, yeah, the draft, I think, is going to be the big tell. And if they don’t trade up for someone somewhere, it would probably be the biggest upset of all time because that’s what they always do. Somebody tie Mickey’s hands, man. Don’t let them trade up this time. Is there is there a world where Mickey Lumis is under any kind of pressure for his job? Because, you know, for years the Saints had this approach of all in, you know, max out the credit card. Let’s try and get one last championship out of the Drew Brees era. Obviously, that’s gone now. As you said, there’s been this sort of weird, they tried to do the competitive rebuild thing or at least just let’s stay pretty good with Derek Carr. Now they’ve been forced into a slightly different world and that’s potentially going to lead them to the number one overall pick and nobody ever talks about like you know why a lot of other places the GM gets fired in that scenario. Like is that on the table at all for the Saints or is Mickey Lumis just there as part of the furniture? The the uh it’s just different than everywhere else in in the NFL. it just operates. It just does like it’s just different than anywhere in the league. I I I would have to say no. Like I I don’t I don’t see it. But I also, you know, I it’s hard to sit here and and ponder a reality where this doesn’t work and this coaching staff doesn’t work and you’re you’re still doing it the same exact way. I think what would have to happen like if there were ever to be a move is I think it would probably have to be reflected in in the stands. And when it becomes a business decision over like just a pure football thing, I I think that’s where it would happen. But the one thing I would point out is that Gail Benson is the one who who forced the firing of of Dennis Allen last year. Had to tell them, “Hey, look, this is happening. You’re going to do it.” Nobody else in the building wanted to do it. And it it happened that way. So, I can’t say it’s completely impossible cuz like we know at least in a certain situation that the owner will move. But it’s just it’s weird and it makes it very very hard to cover cuz it’s just like not a normal it’s not a normal situation. Like the normal storylines, the normal timets of the 31 other teams like it just isn’t it just isn’t that that way here. And you know, I don’t know how you can have the last eight years and it’s just it’s literally all the same exact people. like it’s just not it’s not a normal it’s just not a normal front office. It’s not a normal ownership group. Um it’s just it just works differently here and I’m trying to figure it out myself. Like I don’t I don’t understand it all the time either. Like there’s just things that happen. You’re like, man, is this all right? Like and it’s just like it’s just the same thing. It just keeps going. I was about to plug you as no one’s no one is uh as plugged in as Nick. Well, look, nobody knows New Orleans. I don’t know what I’m doing else. Yeah, you’re as plugged in as anyone though. He’s the least confused person that covers the Saints. That’s what Look, it it just is though. Like, it’s just, you know, all the time I see these lists like Saints GM on the hot seat. It’s like, no, he isn’t. Like, it’s just I don’t I don’t think that he can get hot. Like, it’s just it’s just different than than other places. Um, but yeah, I mean, look, I think I think he has to hit on this one or it’s just like what are you doing here? Like, you can’t you can’t have another failed regime and it and it just kind of keeps going as it’s going. Well, Nick, we appreciate the time. Be sure to check out uh Nick Underh Hill and all his work at New Orleans football. You’re doing a great job there. Keep it up. And uh yeah, man. We’ll do it again sometime. Appreciate it. Yeah, thanks for having me, guys. Thanks so much, Nick. Been wanting to have Nick on for a while here. Yeah, there’s uh he’s great. There’s a couple people like Matthew Coller, who we have who covers the Vikings, a couple people who went independent and, you know, went out on their own and have done a great job and we can we can relate to those going out on their own. Oh, absolutely. I mean, huge respect for what he’s doing as a as an independent, you called him at one point, like Notre Dame, just out here, you know, going toe-to-toe with the big boys, but on his own in a fan. Yeah. Um, yeah, awesome what he’s doing. Him, Matthew Coller, like all those guys that have decided to be, as you said, independent beat writers. Uh, huge amount of respect for those guys. Thanks for watching all the way to the end of the video. Check the mic is live Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday. So, be sure to hit subscribe so you don’t miss a video. You heard the man. Subscribe.

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