BT & Sal EXPLODE After Pete Alonso Leaves Mets! “Stearns Is the Most Hated Man in NYC!”

BT & Sal EXPLODE After Pete Alonso Leaves Mets! “Stearns Is the Most Hated Man in NYC!”

We have some breaking news. What do you got, Hoff? >> It's a big one. >> Oh, give me something good here. >> What? Pete? >> Yeah, >> he's gone. >> He's gone. >> I can't tell by your face. >> And there's nothing we could do. >> He's gone. >> 5 years, $155 million. Jeff passing just now. >> Where? Where? >> Oh, Orioles. >> Wow. >> I'm not surprised. >> Me neither. Me neither. >> Wow. >> Can I just say I freaking hate David Sterns. What the hell are you doing? You a You are the dumbest person in all of baseball. >> What the hell? It's not Sterns. >> Oh my ass. SO WAIT 5 YEARS 155. THE market was freaking set, dude. Yesterday the market was set by 5 years. 155 150. It was set. Okay. The Mets are ripping the band. They're ripping the band-aid off. >> Oh my. Yeah. They ripped everything off. >> Well, you know what? They're not But they're not ripping a band-aid off something that's good. And you don't have a band-aid if your skin's not cut. The reason the Mets had a band-aid is because they were cut. All right. And now you ripped the band-aid off because maybe there's a better way to get that skin to heal. Now maybe there's not. I appreciate Hop's energy. I don't blame you. I don't blame I would if I mean Evan's going to lose his mind today. Met fans are going to lose their minds. I respect that. For me, >> there is a better way to build the team, but Met fans, I feel you, man. >> Hold on. Let me just tell you something. Hold on really quick. That my ass is a better way to build this team because I've seen many levels of the will pawn Mets build teams rather than go for Matt Holiday. Let's go Jason Bay. We can go shorter, cheaper. Oh, get out of here. You're both wrong. Everybody's rolling. >> Reported here and everybody's getting it now. Passing and Haymon that Pete Alonzo uh signs for 5 years or is reportedly agreeing to a deal. 5 years, 155 million with the Orioles BT. Haymon, as Haymon puts it, Allonzo ended up making 205 million in the seven years after turning down 158 uh for seven a couple years back. He's trying to make that, you know, paint that a good picture for Pete and his client for whatever it may be. >> Good for Pete. He got his money. I've been telling you for a while, you know, remember the industry source that I talked about weeks ago was saying the Mets aren't going to budge this time on Pete. Nobody's getting involved. Nobody wanted to hear that. It's a reality. The Mets had their line in the sand at 3 years. you started to get the feel that there would be at least one team to go higher based on what THRA got yesterday. Not surprising to see Pete get five years, but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter who signed him. Doesn't matter how much he got, how many years, what happened. Bottom line is Pete Alonzo is no longer New York Met. >> I honestly feel badly for the Met fans. I really I really do. Now, you guys know where I stand on him as a player. I mean, for two years, I basically been saying, "Nah, I'd probably move on or I'd be okay with it." I've always stood by that. I've always thought that. And you know, people could tell me he's amazing at first base. He's not. Can't throw. Uh he's not. He's not the top tier kind of superstar that some people made him out to be. Never meant he didn't have great value. Always had great value, but there's levels of great value. And what Stern's covets, look at his old Brewers team. Look at the players he's getting rid of, the the deficiencies. There's a commonality there. Nobody should be surprised by this. Now, that's why I remember saying earlier today when we started the show, I heard Boomer saying that he thinks this is better for the talking about the the 5 years 150 for Pete. I thought it was worse. I I didn't think that that or or at at minimal didn't really have any bearing on whether or not the Mets would change their tune or Diaz leaving. Like, no, this man was brought here, David Sterns, to make emotionless decisions, callous decisions that are going to piss you off right now. And by the way, this move, unlike Diaz, is several levels higher than being pissed. You I'm sure and I I get it. I'm sure many of you are emotionally distraught right now. And that's not overstating it. Like pertaining to sports and this stuff matters to me and this stuff has always mattered to me. That's why it's the first thing I just said and I feel for you because there's hundreds of thousands of you out there, family members, dads, moms, kids, grandkids. Alonzo jerseys under the Christmas tree, Alonzo jerseys at birthday parties, Alonzo jerseys by the by the manure for Hanukkah on one of the nights like Peter Alonzo is beloved by the New York Mets, which is independent from whether or not I think they did the right thing. I think that they did. But the rawness that you are feeling today that sucks. >> And now the bottom line is David Cerns has work to do. That's it. So get over the emotions of well we lost Diaz and lost Pete. You lost players that were from a losing team. I'm not trying to minimize their contributions. You can't. Pete was a prolific power for the New York Mets and I wish that he would have stayed but David Sterns is no dummy and he knows that the Mets need to build a winning team otherwise his ass will be out. That is obvious. Steve Cohen knows the same thing. He needs to build a winner for his fan base. He's done everything he's can in his power to be able to do that over the years. It hasn't worked out to the level that they expected to even have sustained success on the smallest of levels while spending an a ridiculous amount of money. They needed to change things up. Is this the right move? Don't know. You could say yes, BT. I could say yes. We could Hoff could say no. Others could say no. We'll find out. The the moves that follow are the most important ones. This is not like when the Mets let Reyes go to the Marlins. The Mets will punch back. They're building a team and it's going to be now without NMO, without Diaz, and without Alonzo. And there is a part of that that gets me excited about what this can now be because that version of it just wasn't working. You can't replace his power. There isn't that power bat out. I mean, maybe they go get Kyle Taka. Who the hell? I wouldn't put anything past the Mets at this point. They're going to be, I'm sure, frustrated and they're going to be hungry to build this team to the best of their capabilities. Maybe there's some trades you talk about, Yandi Diaz, whatever it may be. But I still believe the Mets are going to go big this off season. And they believed that building the core around those players was not the right way to go. And evidence, history would tell you that that is correct based on what this group of players did even at younger ages, let alone what they would project to do in years three or years five. You know, you said a couple things there. One of the first things you said is that Sterns is not a dummy. You're right. But he's also not a winner here yet. So, we all know he's not a dummy, but he does not have that latitude from you cuz he hasn't earned it to do something like this where you have blind faith. And by you, I mean every Met fan out there that that is that obviously want Pete to stay, which is a massive majority, I would imagine. So, you know, he's now when when you haven't won uh to the level that you want to win at and he has yet to do that and now you jettison some of the most popular players the Mets have had in the last 20some years. Forget about Diaz. Talking about more so Pete and NMO. I mean, those two players were ingrained in your New York sporting baseball soul. And that's not going to get replaced today on a radio show. Might be cathartic, and we'll get to the calls in a minute. Uh it it might help when when you know you sign a Tucker or you do whatever you're gonna do. Japanese import, couple of pictures. We all know maybe school, but whatever. But but right now it it there's there's an emptiness that's not going to be filled. I want to I want to say this too and I I don't want to hijack this. So I'm not right. I'm not making this Yankees Mets. This is Mets. But I will say this. Yankee fans should be extra worried now about Bellinger because the money that you saved on the last two years from NMO, the money you just saved, not give it to Pete Alonzo. the money you just saved. Give it a D. Not give it to Diaz. If you tell me that the Mets tack on an extra year or two and 30 or 40 more million dollars for Bellinger, who's a great defender, that would not surprise me. So, >> and he could play first, >> of course. So, I'm trying to keep this independent, but I mean, they could get the Japanese Gold Glove first baseman, keep him there, get Bellinger, put him in left field. I mean what they can do there's there's no limits really to what they could do in terms of the pivot but again until the season starts and the results take shape take shape and they're good results man this is this is a low almost as dark as Tom Siver that day when they traded him in 77. Will Sammon of the Athletic who's been in tune with this stuff says the Mets had some interest in bringing these this is word for word the Mets had some interest in bringing Pete Alonzo back but they were not comfortable going to the lengths and figures it ended up at in his deal with the Orioles that's according to league sources from Will Salmon which is nothing people were we've been trying to tell you this for a long time that this was going to be the case here it just took one team to go to that length I am actually surprised that the Mets didn't bend a little bit here but even if they went to a fourth year that was not going to happen. You were always of the belief BT you were not going there. I said in the beginning of the offseason I would have just gotten in front of this given the six years 180 wouldn't have even taken that obviously as Baltimore gets them for five 155 but you're going to be looking at a totally different New York Mets team and that to me is not a bad thing when the team won 83 games a year ago and just hasn't been good enough but the moves that follow now we could finally put it to bed years of the nonsense about Alonzo stay go lifelong man blah blah He's gone. That's it. Diaz gone. That's it. Nemo traded. That's it. Now, how are you building this team back up to where it should be a serious World Series contender in this year? Now, those are the move. Now is where the pressure is on Sterns. Not to keep those guys building this team after those guys are no longer here. >> And nobody wears a a cap as dark as the villain Sterns right now. He is target number one. He is the one right now. And it's up to him to change that narrative. I believe Sterns is the most hated man, most hated person associated with any team of any sport in this city right now. 100% right. BT and Sal on the fan. 8881019. Andrew is in Shirley. What's up, Andrew? >> Hey, how's it going? >> Good. >> Yeah, not for me. Um, I'm I'm hope that the the David Sterns propaganda machine can calm down a little bit. I'm in the middle of my call, in the middle of waiting this news breaks out. I was already calling to rip this guy apart. I actually want to call two weeks ago to rip this guy apart and every day it's just built up. So, this is poetic that Pete signs while I'm waiting on the phone call. Hoff had a perfect reaction. And oh my gosh, they reward I want to go to the fans real quick because I think any fan who shows up to City Field this year is a >> And here's what I want to say. They begged us to go to City Field. We gave them record attendance at City Field while they handed us a bad product. We said, "Well, you asked us to come. We filled out the entire place." I hope they boycott the entire season. And before you tell me, well, these were losing players. No, you want to know who was losing players? The pitching that Sterns gave us. So hopefully we have so such great gold glovers who are making diving plays over the fence. I don't think that that defense is going to matter a lick as far as what we need for this team. But thank >> But but Andrew Andrew, you don't even you don't even know what the Mets are going to do here. >> I don't care. >> Okay. Well, then but THEN YOU'RE NOT A THEN YOU'RE NOT A Met fan if you don't care. That's true. There's not enough moves out there that can replace the offensive players and the homegrown players. >> You don't know that. You don't know that. I do know that. I know. You don't know that. You don't know that. >> You don't I'm sorry. I'll trust David players in the league, guys. I play baseball. >> Yeah. I I got you. Good. Listen, good. Good call. Thank you, buddy. I But I'm not going um I can't say that. I can't not say that you're wrong. I like I hate to be that blunt, but you're presenting it as fact when there's so many elements that remain to be done. You're not It's not a fact. >> Yeah. Here's the bottom line. You're right. Met fans right now hate David Sterns because they don't trust him. They think he's cheap. They think he doesn't want to spend. They also, for whatever reason, lack trust in Steve Cohen. That's where there's a disagreement here as far as where I think you and I are at versus where Hoff or or some of the angry fans are at right now. I still tr It doesn't mean that I'm right. It doesn't mean that Andrew's right. I still trust that David Sterns and Steve Cohen are going to build a better team than what they had a year ago. So to come on and say, "Well, you shouldn't go out there. This is a disgrace. The Mets are going to stink." No, they stunk with Pete Alonzo. haven't won anything with them. They could win without him. I wanted him back. I wanted him back and I would have brought him back because I I believe that they need a power bat. I would have gone to 61 180. I'm on record of saying that. It doesn't mean that you can't replace Pete Alonzo and the Mets are going to be garbage now. They didn't want Pete back at that price. Just like Met fans were angry when they didn't want Deg Grom back at the price that he got. And how'd that work out where Deg Grom again got hurt? You'll get over it. You don't know what moves are going to be made. If this is the team or something close to looking like this as you go into spring training, then I can understand being upset. Right now, I guarantee you the Mets are working on something major major to bring in big-time players to get this team to a level of success that they have not been at with Diaz NMO or Pete Alonzo. >> H, you read it. What do you What do you tell me about Sherman? What? Hyping up Pete? Is that what you want me to read? No, it's it's it's the one where he says Joel Sherman source the Mets never made an offer as it became clear to them that Alonzo was getting bids from more dollars and years in their comfort zone. >> And that's one of the things that Thank you. That's one of the things that I stressed here at the start of the show like I if if if that was the number and the guy sitting 5t to my left told you three years was a beyond that is a non-comfort zone for the Mets. So, if you been listening to the show, you shouldn't be stunned. And then others obviously supported what what we were saying on the show, what he what S was saying on the show. Um, I think that the most important thing for me was I wanted to see number one if the owner would kind of swoop in and usurp that power and the man that he hired to do the job get in the way, which would not be good because when George did that, usually it didn't work out for the Yankees. That's not that's not the dynam that's not a good dynamic for a winning team. hire the person, let them do their job, let them cook. If they don't cook, you fire them. If they do cook, you give them extension. So, that didn't happen. That's actually organizationally good for the Mets. The other thing I didn't want to see happen was Sterns, who was clearly committed to three years and probably didn't even really want him at three years if you want to be honest, uh, did not like cave to the crushing public sentiment. NMO was loud, now Diaz was louder. The easiest thing for him to do would be like, "You know what? Let's just bring him back. >> Give him the fourth year, man. He's going to hit 38 home runs. Come on. Let's bring him back." He's stuck to what he believes is the right way to build a really good team. Now, that Brewers team was really good. Never won a championship, but really good. Fast. Okay. Good pitching, catch the baseball. That's what he's trying to do. So, he didn't he didn't bend. He didn't flinch. He didn't um he didn't acquies. And I think at the end of the day, that's smart. >> Right. But do you Exactly. I do. Do you think that David Sterns is going to just build a losing team going into the season? There's there's no there's no I don't know the results. I'm talking about going into the season. There are many big moves to be had. We may not be aware of them. They might be trades that we don't even know about right now. Do you really think, think about it, do you not trust Steve Cohen to build the best team that he possibly can? Do you not trust David Sterns on any level? I I just don't understand why there would be such I can understand being upset and sad that Pete is moving on and that the Mets let him walk. That is understandable, but not trusting this hierarchy to do whatever they can in their power to build the best team. That's where I can't comprehend why fans would be there. It doesn't mean that they're going to build the best team. They tried it last year the way that everybody wanted with everybody back. It didn't work. Even in 2024, that team wasn't good enough. take outside the incredible run, the OMG run in Grimace. They weren't good enough. Were the New York Mets in 2024 really good enough to contend at the highest levels. They're not even close to Dodgers, but the floor with them. They did it with with uh smoking mirrors. >> Yeah, smoking mirrors. And I know that that sounds disrespect respectful, but it's not meant to. I mean, Egalacius was in the middle of so much and he had a really good year, but I mean that like that's just and that was by the way Sterns who signed him to a minor league deal and he came and he hit 400 in Queens and he was very good and he brought up the emotion and the chemistry and all that vibe, all the good stuff. So, but that was not sustainable. Glacius was not going to be playing for the Mets for the next 5 years. You stumbled upon that and then Maniah switched up his wind up and was looked like uh Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson or or Jerry Ksman like a trio of those. Not that Kman's goes down but I'm throwing a med in there. you know what I mean? Uh and and basically he got hurt and uh the league figured out his new windup. So there were a lot of gimmicks to the Mets success in 2024. And the sheer reality of it is this. Right now as we sit here, the Mets have a second base situation that I like, a shortstop situation that I like and a right field situation that I like. You need a first baseman. I like Batty, but he's young. Catcher, you got to show me something. You got no DH. You got no left fielder. You got no center fielder. the Mets and he he needs to start cooking fast. >> Richie is calling from Brooklyn. What's up, Richie? >> How you doing, boys? >> What's up, Rich? How you doing, bud? >> Uh, you know, I was upset for about 90 seconds, but at the end of the day, it is what it is. Like you guys said, six years of Alonzo, nothing. Six years of Diaz, nothing. Six plus years of Nemo, nothing. Right. So, Cern hasn't done anything yet to prove himself. Uh Sodto was all Cohen. Um he has Montas. He has those ugly signings. So he's definitely probably the biggest targeted guy right now. >> He Yeah, he will get fired if he doesn't do if he doesn't put together a team that wins, he's going to get fired. I mean, destroy them. It's going to be somebody else. >> So So he has from now till February to obviously put something together. If he goes out there with Ventos at first, McNeel and left and Taylor at center and then resign Marte to the God Almighty, he's done. That's not happening. 0.0 0% chance would never allow that to happen. >> That is unacceptably disgracefully bad. >> They're going to and thank you for the call, Richie. They're going to get a first baseman. They're going to get a legitimate outfielder and they're going to get significant improvements in the rotation. All those things are in play. They need two big moves for their lineup and at least two big moves for the rotation >> and one more bullpen >> to go with to go >> down. But even even that I wouldn't say is a necessity right now. But yeah, I mean, sure, definitively now going into the season, they need two bats. They don't have a first baseman, and they have two outfield spots that are vacant, and they don't really have a DH. So, you need at least one at least one of first base or DH, big bat, and at least one big bat in the outfield to go along with the young players, we said, and I I fully trust they're going to get it. Is it going to pan out? Who the hell knows? But but what we do know is it hasn't been good enough. It hasn't been good enough. Let the emotion of loving Alonzo go. And I know that's easier said than done, but it hasn't been good enough. It is David Stern's job not to appease you and your emotions. It is his job to build the best team, the best team, a winning team that can sustain success. It's year three. It's going to be an important year for him. Obviously, you got to let him do his job. You could hate him. Maybe at the end of this, you love him. And I would bet that there's a better chance that the people who are calling today saying, "Screw the Mets. I'm done. I hate the Mets. Don't go out there." That in a month or two into the season, they're going to say, "You know what? We were wrong for doubting Sterns." And maybe it's going to take a little bit longer than that. But in the end, maybe it takes a couple years to have the sustained success. But you can't argue with what he did in Milwaukee and what he's going to try to do here in New York. You just unfortunately have to give him some time to prove himself, >> which I'm obviously willing to do. I'm less willing to say that I think in a month or so Met fans will feel totally different or however you framed it just because there's there's a der of big bats and you said that they need a big bat in two spots. First base in the outfield and I obviously agree but the two biggest bats are gone. Schwabber's not coming. Pete's obviously gone. Now there's different ways to build teams better on base defense. Quan, you know, maybe Bette, whatever. Maybe put him at third and maybe put Batty at first. I I don't know. He's got to figure stuff out here. But that is that is that is the reality. It's not a great um free agent class at this point. You're going to have to get creative with trades. Uh I you know I I also think that the if the Tigers don't trade Scoo I still think that the Met fan who's not going completely ballistic right now and that's not many of you understood. I think those who are still kind of stable really think that Scoo's coming. And if they don't trade him, then that's going to that's going to even change the few remaining believers in what they're trying to do. So, I don't know what it's going to look like on opening day. I do agree with the wrecking ball. I you had to change it. I get it. But I'm not convinced completely that they nailed it the next month or so. The Mets roster could look a little little weak going into 2026.

BT & Sal react LIVE to the massive breaking news: Pete Alonso is officially gone, signing a 5-year, $155M deal with the Baltimore Orioles. The guys unleash on David Stearns, Steve Cohen, and the Mets’ front office as the franchise enters a full-on reboot.

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0:00 – Breaking: Pete Alonso signs with Baltimore
1:10 – Stearns blasted: “Dumbest person in baseball!”
3:40 – Why the Mets refused to go past 3 years
6:55 – The emotional gut-punch for Mets fans
9:30 – What this means for the future of the franchise
12:45 – Will the Mets spend big now?
15:00 – Callers unload on the Mets front office
19:00 – What the Mets MUST do next

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