[Gelb] Phillies plan to move forward with this current outfield group, Dave Dombrowski said: Brandon Marsh/A RHB in LF Justin Crawford in CF Adolis García in RF

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  2. So after platooning literally every left handed hitter we’ve had for the past 5 years except Schwarber and Harper…

    …We’re just… going to let a rookie LHH take every rep in center.

    What the fuck lmao

  3. LF Platoon — basically the same as last year.

    RF — Better than last year, if only for the defense

    CF — Probably worse than Bader at the end of the season, but potentially better overall.

    Big wildcard in CF will decide if this is a good strategy or not.

  6. Weren’t we close to the worst hitting outfield in MLB last year? Guess we’re not changing that, hell yeah boys.

  10. Never take anything he says too seriously. Every statement he makes is calculated to be what he wants agents and other GMs to hear. He could be done making moves, or he could be taking the team out of the running on a player to keep the bidding down, or who knows what else. 

    Point is, if DD says something about personnel, don’t take it as absolute truth. 

  12. I really liked what Brader brought to the table last year. Just have to hope Crawford can match some of that. Castellanos had some fun moments here but really fell off hard, so pretty much anyone is an upgrade there.

    Overall, I try to be optimistic but my mind always circles back to one thing: we should have sealed the deal on ‘22 or ‘23.

  13. Crawford has to play center if he’s going to be a major league quality player. His bat is not good enough for him to be able to be in a corner every day.

  15. Yea I’m not even watching us expecting a big run. Probably win the east again but after that it’s a coin flip. Just gonna enjoy the prospects developing and schwarbombs

  16. This is ok with me if it means we’re getting an upgrade in the infield instead. Give me Bichette/Bregman/Marte and I’ll be happy. I’d also be thrilled at signing Imai.

    If not, then it’s reasonable to be upset about this. We cannot just keep running trash in the outfield and expect to get anywhere.

  17. This is half copium, but legitimately, we have seen that the outfield market around the trade deadline tends to be very favorable for teams that are buying.

    I think this is just another example of the Marsh, Bader, Hays, where we will address it at the trade deadline whenever everything is cheaper.

  18. So the outfield’s effectiveness hinges on a 33 year old free swinger reverting back to his form from 2 years ago and an unproven rookie with questionable range who only hits the ball on the ground sticking in CF.

    This is fine. Here we go.

  19. Outfield when can’t hit?

    Anyone know the typical average drop off from the minors to majors? Crawford continuing to hit 300 would be well outside of the norm.

  21. Why not re-sign Bader still? That way if Crawford isn’t cutting it and/or Marsh and Garcia don’t have to be everyday guys. None of these 3 starters are good enough to have no alternative.

  22. This is fine, provided Crawford is a major leaguer. The outfield still won’t be good, but it shouldn’t be among the worst in the league. God I wish this organization could develop position players.

  24. …that’s certainly a choice.

    I’ll be happy if we can improve the infield instead. But if we’re stuck with Bohm and Stott again with this outfield? It’ll be a long season lol

  27. I feel like people fail to realize that Bader is a career .247 hitter. There is a reason 5 other teams have given up on him. Also a reason he is trying to maximize his stint with the Phillies to make some $$. All his numbers with the Phillies were substantially higher than his career averages. Believing that he will be the player he was for an entire season or multiple seasons with the Phillies is probably just wishful thinking. He had a good “short” run with the Phillies, but we have seen that with many different players, including Marsh.

  29. Has Casty been released or traded yet? Not for nothin but isn’t it a bit strange Dave didn’t at least mention him?

  30. If this isn’t posturing I truly find this to be unacceptable. It’s not going to get it done in the postseason.

    We’re all excited to see what Crawford can do but him being your near every day Center Fielder is insane. He was just mashing grounders in Lehigh Valley.

    Garcia is a nice veteran piece but this team needs hitting and he’s not going to add much.

    And Marsh is Marsh. If we had two other stud outfielders he’d be acceptable I guess but this looks like another lineup where 5-9 are near automatic outs.

  31. As much as i like Bader I gotta get behind the idea of starting a season with a rookie starting and riding that as.far as itll go. Phillies rarely do this

  32. Adolis with the reverse splits makes this plan concerning against LHP. Rincones is more of the same so I guess that means more Weston Wilson and Kemp/Sosa in the outfield 🥴

  33. Could be true, or could be a negotiation tactic for Bader’s camp (or another FA or potential trade partner). Time will tell.

  38. Listen, I know Marsh doesn’t play good against lefties, but do we really think Crawford deserves to play everyday while Marsh is stuck in a platoon? As of right now, Crawford is just potential – he hasn’t proven anything as a major league player yet. Idk I just don’t think it’s right to put all our eggs in the Crawford basket expecting a Triple A player to be an MLB caliber everyday starter within 1 season

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