Are the Detroit Pistons REAL Contenders?

Are the Detroit Pistons REAL Contenders?

I still don’t think people view the Detroit Pistons as a title contender. Like I don’t think they view them as that. I think they view them as a good basketball team, but I think most people know that Detroit is probably going to lose in first second round. Like even though they’re really good, they could they got the potential of losing the first round depending on who they play. >> They go get Lorie Mark, >> huh? >> I guarantee you this team is >> with this Lorie Market and [ __ ] I swear. Ox with this Lorie Market and [ __ ] But they got the potential to lose in the first or second round to be honest. Um like they’re not a scary team. Like Detroit’s not a scary team like in the playoffs. I mean I wouldn’t look at Detroit. >> No, I they’re plenty scary. >> If if Toronto and Detroit played against each other, I would pick the Raptors to win. If the Knicks play If the Knicks played played against Detroit, I would pick the Knicks to win. Like I I I just would like >> the Knicks. >> Like I think the Knicks want anything to do with Detroit again of of of the teams that they want to see in the playoffs. You think they want to see Detroit again? >> I don’t think they care. Like I don’t think they care. >> What makes Pistons not scary? Because to me, >> they are apart from the Knicks the scar. >> They don’t have a number two. That’s what makes them not scary. They don’t have a legit number two. >> What’s Jaylen Dur? >> Well, it’s not a number. >> Excuse me. >> I think the style of play >> Yeah. I I don’t want to see it ever again, but [laughter] like like Detroit legitimately doesn’t have a number two like and that’s going to be heel in the playoffs. >> You know what they do have? They have dog. >> They have >> everybody going to BE A DOG IN THE PLAYOFFS. Knicks got dogs too though. >> Yo, different different type of dogs. Some people chihuahua in the playoffs. Some people bulldog in the playoffs. Some people in the playoffs. Different >> some people play Detroit. If the Cavs play Detroit, the Cavs >> I got Detroit. If the Cavs play Detroit, I got Detroit. The only teams that >> problem is gonna run into they don’t have a number two. They look good in the regular season. Does not look good in the playoffs. I’m telling you, >> I could see I could Here are the teams that I could see beating Detroit in a in a seven game series in the playoffs. Orlando, New York, that’s it. >> Those teams I don’t think >> Miami I think Miami would beat them, too. But then but then you think >> like you gotta think K Cunningham didn’t play like like Kenahan played off and on in the playoffs last year. He’s played good sometimes play trash. >> That was his first time in the playoffs. >> Yeah. Exposure. We move. We learn. We get better. >> Okay. They also had Beasley out there too who took a lot of pressure off of him too. They don’t have him anymore. >> They got Duncan Robinson now. >> Duncan Robinson is not Malik Beasley. I mean, Duncan Robinson is not seen Duncan Robinson all this time, all his career, and you have not seen him fail you in the [ __ ] playoffs. I know you’ve seen that. >> I I know I have seen him in the finals. [laughter] >> Fail you. Yes, he will fail you in the playoffs. I know you’ve seen that. >> Duncan’s cool. Duncan’s cool. I’m not mad at I’m in the Piston. >> Duncan is a long ball shooter. That’s who he is. Dren, let’s be honest. [clears throat] That’s who he is. >> I’m not mad at the Pistons. I’m not mad at the Pistons at all. I think they’re a really good team. I think they might probably be like a second round exit >> until I know you I know you was giving me some push back. >> I think they go match two rounds. >> That’s That’s why I’m saying like Kade needs to go to the front office and and demand that they go get Lorie Markin. Demand it. >> Why is Lori Markin the difference in what they doing? >> Cuz he makes them a number two. Cuz he’s a legit number. >> He’s that good. >> How do we know that? We ain’t seen him. We We never We never seen him be a legit number two in the play. >> You going to put Kate in MVP conversation then say Laura number one? But hold up though before we get into that. Ox, finish your point. >> Well, that’s my point. >> No, chill chill. Ask you a question. Answer it. >> I don’t I don’t answer those type of questions, Ron, because I don’t think that’s I think it’s his basketball. It’s basketball. Lori is Lori is cold. He’s not We’re not just going to get to the playoffs and Lory’s all of a sudden not going to be a good basketball player. That’s that’s >> nobody said he’s not going to be a good basketball player, but what has Lorie Markin shown you to suggest that he’s taking us to >> ball out multiple time all season >> this season, last season, season before that, season before that. Lori been balling ever since I ever since I was introduced to Lori when he was at Arizona. He’s been he’s done nothing but cook. I don’t know what when when does he see play bad? Why does why why does he why does he fit on this unit in particular? What does he do to point They need another scorer? They need another bucket getter. They need they need another another bucket getter and a dude that can rebound as well. Like he rebounds and he’s a bucket getter. >> That’s what I can get with >> Mhm. You don’t think you don’t think he’s a good rebounder? >> No, he’s like a seven seven eight a game. He’s seven foot seven eight game rebound. He should be a double double guy, but he’s not. Well, Lori I mean what is Ly Lor Lory’s what a walking a walking 24 a walking 24 right there I could get with though Mos sure I could get with that. >> So he could probably average rebounds if more rebounds if you emphasize rebounding but it’s in Utah’s best interest to have him get out and run because he’s that best transition player by a significant margin. >> He might if you put that into it. All I’m saying all I’m saying is lawyer makes them a real contender. He makes him he makes him a real >> does he make them more of a contender than Anthony Davis does? Well, they got Jaylen Duran. They don’t need They don’t need Anthony Davis. Yeah, he does. Yes, >> Larry can actually play the four unlike AD who’s lying to himself. >> Yeah, he’s Yes, he he makes them he makes them better than Anthony Davis. >> Anthony Davis at the four is not a winning formula in 2025 >> because >> in my humble opinion, >> what what what what has changed in from 2020 to 2025 at the four spot? his ability to stretch Anthony Davis’s mobility is not the same as it was even 5 years ago. He doesn’t move the same. He doesn’t have the same agility. He doesn’t have the same quickness advantage he used to have. Um, a lot of it’s why a lot of his scoring game is kind of declined in recent years. It’s a lot more face up stuff. The mid-range accuracy is not Yeah, he’s declining. >> He doesn’t shoot as well as he used to. He’s not as quick as he used to be. Most of his value now is going to come from play finishing. You maximize that out of the five, not before. Especially when you’re putting interior big next to Anthony Davis. Like you’re going to have Jaylen Duran as an interior big. Isaiah Stewart is a guy who can shoot but he’s not commanding major attention out there. Also Isaiah Stewart is more of a four than a five anyway. Like it’s not going to work with Anthony David. Like Larry Marklin very easily fits that team more in my opin. Not to mention Larry’s a better offensive player than Anthony. Yeah. I don’t I don’t understand that question too. Like I don’t I don’t understand that question at all. Who does he does he make him more of a comp a championship contender than Anthony Davis? Absolutely. It’s not even not even a thought. Absolutely he does. >> I’m just thinking about style of play. That’s what I’m thinking about. >> Style style of play and all of that. Like he’s Yes, he definitely makes him a more of a contender than Anthony Davis does because they once again they already got Jaylen Dur. They don’t even need Anthony Davis. Trading for Anthony Davis would be a bad move for Detroit. I would I Lori Markin, Michael Porter Jr. both of them dudes are are are ahead ahead of Anthony Davis as far as making Detroit. >> Michael Porter Jr. make this team a lot better too by the way. like a whole lot better. Like he he >> Who you taking out, Drench? You taking Are you taking Are you taking Toby out and putting MPJ in? >> Whoever in that draft. >> Yeah, like >> I do think MPJ would be I do think MPJ would be great for him. >> Yeah, >> he’s got my second choice Mark. >> Yeah, I would I would probably >> Yeah, maybe first choice. Who’s getting paid more? >> This is probably I’ll probably take I’ll probably take MP. I would probably take I like MPJ a little bit better, but I’m a little bit biased, but I like MPJ a little bit better than Lori Marketing. I feel like he I feel like he’ll be more consistent um as far as making tough shots because you gonna need to make tough shots um in the playoffs. Like, and I feel like MPJ MPJ’s game is built to make like, have you seen his highlight take this year? That [ __ ] is tough shots and he shoots damn near 50. Like, but to his point, like he said, he don’t never see you. Like he said, he don’t even see the defense when he shoot. so tall and he jumps so high on his jump shot. So, I I like I like MPJ a lot more. He don’t need the dribble, too. You can run him off curls. You can run him off a lot of screens. You can easily swing it to him. Um where he’s in a corner, he can launch it like you know those grenade launchers going to be prevalent in the playoffs. You can easily swing it to him and as long as he catch it, he open. So, like I I I like MPJ a little bit more um in this. But I also think MPJ having fun. He ain’t going nowhere. He staying in Brooklyn. That brother is not leaving. He He like putting up them numbers. >> Yo, >> if they got a good trade deal for him, they’ll probably trade him. >> Yeah, maybe. So, I wouldn’t I would try to get Trey Young over there, but that’s a different conversation. I would try to get Trey Young over there in >> Trey Young in Detroit. >> No, in Brooklyn. Okay. I was about to say, I mean, >> yeah, I would definitely try to get Trey Young over there. >> Y’all, I also don’t want to minimize the fact that Anthony Davis would be tremendous for this team. >> Oh, absolutely. >> Like, they already have a top three defense in the NBA. You add AD to that, like they don’t get worse. And they don’t pace get to Detroit. >> But yeah. Yeah. But regardless of how clunky you may think that Anthony Davis and Jaylen Durin might be, Anthony Davis has never been bad next to another big in his career ever. Right. >> Ever. Like he he doesn’t do anything but make that team better. Offensively, he might not be as good of a fit as MPJ and Lori Markin because these are these are floor spacers. These are guys that shoot the piss out the ball and they they can play better off the ball than AD or than uh Yeah, they they play better off the ball. >> But like, come on y’all. Let’s not act like uh AD and Kate Cunningham pick and roll pick and pop ain’t something >> ridiculous. Let’s not act like on that ridiculous. >> I I I do agree with you on that one. I do like that combo. It’s just it just depends on how they’re going to play. Like it depends on their play style. like will they revert back to the things that Anthony Davis is good at? Like will Anthony Davis post up? Will like how many ISOs he’ll get at the top of the key? How many jump shots will AD shoot? How good will AD shoot from three? He wasn’t shooting very well from three this year with the small sample size games he’s played. But like it just depends. And I I will say even if they did get AD, they still need another guard that can take pressure off of Kate. Kade turned the ball over a lot. >> Jens, >> huh? Dennis Jenkins. I I like Dennis. Shout out my boy Hart. My boy Hart trained Dennis. But at the same time, playoffs a different beast. Like you need another solidified guard. Remember they had Dennis Schroer there, too. >> That’s what Kylo Lever was meant to be, but he’s been disappointed. >> Yeah. And then remember they got rid of Dennis Schroer. Like Dennis Schroer did a lot for them last year in the playoffs. Like you have to have >> But it’s not. >> That’s not even the the the the thing though, Ron. Like yeah, Anthony Davis is going to be good anywhere. It’s Anthony Davis. Like you can send Anthony Davis to any team in the world and he’s going to be good. >> But the thing is like >> we’re trying to get better. You know what I’m saying? So you you you take you take the better you take the better move. The better move for that team is lawyer marketing or Michael Porter Jr. Anthony Davis. >> What does it cost? >> Michael Porter Jr. is not better for that team than Anthony Davis. Y’all like will y’all stop it? >> No. I want higher on Anthony Davis than I am at this point. That’s >> Hey, a [ __ ] that shoots the ball every time he touches it. defensive super every time. Every time he touches >> it. Well, I mean he’s doing that. Give him the boo and you want him to shoot. He doing that in Brooklyn, bro. It’s different. >> He did that in in Denver. >> Not really. >> You look at this Detroit. >> I’m not really tripping on Michael Porter Jr. like that. It’s It’s Lori Markin. Lori Markin is the move for them. Damn Michael Porter Jr. Forget about him. Forget about everybody. It’s Lori marketing or nothing. >> Okay, let’s just say it’s Lori marketing. Ox. What’s it going to cost us in What’s it going to cost us in Detroit to say to to sway Danny A to give us Lorie Markin? >> I mean, he he cheaper than AD. >> No, he’s cheaper than AD. >> Danny Ain’t getting off of Lorie Mark without something special. >> I got Yeah, he been >> cuz I can tell you right now like like Jaden Ivy say that right now. Jaden Ivy leaving Ivy could go Jaden Ivy does Jaden Ivy. Jaden I >> They don’t need no more guards in in Utah though, so I can’t even say Jaden Ivy. I I’ll take him at the two guard spot. I love him. Him him and >> Beef St. Beef Sto. That’s what I was about to ask you, Ox. So, does does Jaden Ivy taking >> Does Jayen Ivy, Toby, and Beef Stew get the deal done? >> Some [clears throat] pics, man. >> Hell no. And three picks. [ __ ] >> A boatload of pics. >> Yeah, cuz [ __ ] I look like Beef Stew headlining my trade. >> The [ __ ] You going to get a standing ovation when he come in the game in Utah? Well, look, I told I told y I told y’all already like I’m I’m okay with I’m I’m honestly okay if if it’s for Lori >> because they got uh my man, what’s his name? Ron Holland, right? >> Yeah. >> Since they got Ron Holland over there. If it’s for Lori, not for nobody else. If it’s for Lori. >> All right, twin. >> [ __ ] no. I had no idea that there side they are holding up content for Lori marketing. They’re not chill. Chill. I’mma come a top three defense. Yeah. Let’s give up our best defender. Okay. >> No, but I’m okay. But that’s fine though. Like that’s just funny. They’re still our best. >> They’re still there still going to be there still be a good >> That’s okay. They’re still there still going to be a good defense. They’re still going to be a good defense. So, it’s like you’re going to you’re still going to be a good defense, but your basketball team gets much better. Gets much better. Like, y’all y’all be so damn sentimental. You could get you could give something up to get better. Like, yeah, he’s a great basketball player. >> I’m not trying to give up who I think is the best wind defender in >> Okay, that’s fine. That’s fine. I feel you. That’s cool. That’s cool. That’s cool. I don’t I don’t So, we’re trying to win. >> He’s getting paid a lot of money. >> Yeah. Look, that’s that’s fine. That’s fine. Let me let me let me just finish saying without saying to you real quick. As a sour Assaur and Tobias can go for Lloyd Markin. >> Tobias can go. >> I’ll give I’ll give up Ron Holland. I’m not giving up >> now. If they No, no. Mil Morris obviously if they want Ron Holland, if they’ll take Ron Holland, we give him up. But for Lloyd Mark, I’m keeping K Duran and Assad Thompson out of trade talks if I’m being honest. Everyone else, yeah, sure. Those three I’m not. And Ron Holland is really reluctant. Like I have to throw Ron name in there. I’m throwing a fourth name in there. Beef Stew stays. >> I I I agree with that. I I would try. >> Well, Beef Stew and cannot go together. It’s one or the other. >> Yeah, them [ __ ] can can both get on the same flight cuz you know what? I’ll book y’all both private jets. Just you two and your families on there. I’ll do y’all a solid. Get the [ __ ] on out of here. We are bringing in a star another. Yo, if I’m negotiating with Utah, I’m sending them a postcard and and I’m I’m doing a photoshop, little photoshop of uh Keonte George and Jaden Ivy being like backcourt of the future. That’s your that’s your pitch. You could take Ron Holland. You can take Tobias Harris if that’s what it takes. Other than that, honestly, I’m going to tell you the truth. This team is rolling. They’re number one team in the Eastern Conference for a reason. I don’t think they played their best basketball. I’m willing to roll the dice. Kate is 24 years old. It’s not like we running out of time here. >> We might as well take another crack at this in the playoffs. See if we can maybe Look, man. Lori Morinan ain’t getting you through OKC. I got news for you. He ain’t getting you through OKC. He ain’t getting you through Denver. >> OKC. OKC. He might get through the East on on on Jaylen Duran and Kate Cunningham alone. Why we got to why we got to make a trade for Lorie Markin who’s 28. >> If you got Lorie Marketing over there with them dudes, man, they can for sure play OKC. The the the Pac the Pacers barely lost to OKC last year. OKC need to worry about Denver, San Antonio, Houston, and LA right now. That’s what that’s what OKC. >> Let me put it this way. I am irrationally high on Assar Thompson. Like, I’m not moving him. >> At least you know you’re being irrational about it. >> Well, I’ve been [ __ ] up. Keeping my best. >> So, I’m not trading him for Dyson. I would You know what? No, I’m not going to say it. Dyson, >> there there are a lot of >> Say it, Pen. Say the thing. Say say the thing. Say it. >> I feel like >> if they if they call me Jaylen Johnson for a Sarah Thompson, I’ll have a conversation, but it ain’t a conversation I’m going to be real comfortable with. >> Lori is better than Jaylen Johnson. >> I agree with that. But >> so, >> no, I’m just saying I want to trade for Jaylen Johnson. >> Yes. Chill. He is. Yes. Jay Martin is absolutely better than Jaylen Johnson. perimeter defender in the freaking NBA. Yo, you know how many good perimeter defenders are? >> It can’t Well, he typically probably gonna dunk. >> Can’t make a anything outside of a layup or a dunk. It’s like a sword. Why are you out here? But [laughter] >> would you get him off or he’s unplayable? Oh my god. >> I can’t make a layup. But you know what? You ain’t making a layup either. That’s the fact. >> Would you trade him on you? Yo, you should have known. You should have known a star was like that as a rookie. >> It depends on it depends on who it’s for. But yes, a men’s not off the table. >> Larry Markham, would you trade a men’s >> a man? >> Well, here’s the thing. A men and a sore aren’t the same. >> They’re not. >> Defensively, they have the same weaknesses. No. >> No. No. Hell no. A >> weaknesses. A MEN IS WAY >> I’M NOT I NEVER said I never had the same strengths. I said weaknesses. >> Yes. I can give they have the same weaknesses, but I can give a man a ball and a man can create with a sword. It is nothing. Zero. He He’s literally Jared Vanderbelt on offense. Yes. >> Yo, Ron, if a men if a men and a sore were on Detroit together and we need to get Lori Markin, both of you [ __ ] could bounce. I want Ly in. >> Hell no. >> I want to be honest. None of >> us are on the same team. [ __ ] I what I I want to see Lori marketing on Detroit now because I want to see this thing work because Ox He Ox told me about Maxi years ago. Maybe Ox is on to something. I don’t know. He he he he might be on to something with Lori marketing in Detroit. I don’t know. I want >> I agree with that. I’m just not giving up a software to happen. But I do agree. >> I’m not doing that. You going to get me fired trading Amin Thompson. That’s what you’re going to do. You going to get me fired for that. Not if you’re getting loyal marketing chill. You’re not going to get fired. You’ll be all right. [laughter] Legend [music] get built on cam where the check don’t smoke and the hoes go ham. Ain’t never seen hoops talk hit. Every take I wait every night we drop. Yeah, this that bar side worldwide tone. Welcome [music] to the only show that really feel like numbers jumping like the

The Panel debate whether the Detroit Pistons are real contenders or just hype. In this heated panel debate, The Panel break down the Pistons’ roster, recent growth, and whether one key trade could push them into true contender status. Some panelists believe the Pistons are closer than fans think, while others aren’t buying it yet. Watch the full debate and decide for yourself where Detroit really stands in the NBA playoff race.

🔴 Full Episode:https://www.youtube.com/live/rA_sMvdZ6go

📅 Live Episodes Every Week: Weekdays @ 11AM EST

💻 JOIN OUR DISCORD
➜ https://discord.gg/3WwSrYFG

👕 CHECK OUT OUR MERCH
➜ https://www.playerschoicemerch.com/

🤝 PARTNERS
➜ Players Choice is in a paid partnership with Splash Sports.
Play with us here: https://bit.ly/pcxsplash
➜ Play QuickPicks on Splash Sports: https://bit.ly/SSQuickPicks | New users can earn a deposit match up to $50 and 100% Boost on first entry | Use code: PLAYER
These are paid fantasy contests / games of skill—you compete against other fans, not the house.

📧COLLABORATION/SPONSORSHIP INQUIRIES
➜ info@smck77.tv