All 2025 trades between St. Louis and Boston packed into a single one. Thoughts?
December 22, 2025
All 2025 trades between St. Louis and Boston packed into a single one. Thoughts?
16 comments
Cardinals A++++ Red Sox F
Dumped contracts and got a decent package of prospects. Mission accomplished.
I’m a Red Sox fan and wanted to see what are your takes on this series of trades between our teams.
I know it might be difficult to see your team getting disbanded like this after a few difficult years but as a Boston fan, we were in the exact same spot a few years ago and also with Chaim Bloom doing it and I can assure that this entire process will not be in vain.
When it comes to talent acquisition and drafting, there are very few people that do it better than Chaim and all this will result in the Cardinals getting the foundations to what will be another amazing decade like the one you guys had from 2006 and beyond.
I consider your fan base to be the most baseball smart of all teams and I’m sure you guys will be thrilled to see the fruits of all this. Good luck!
Will they take nado and maybe noot too, please?
Getting guys named Blaze Jordan and Dick Fitts make the trades worth it on gameday thread joke values alone
Surprised by the amount that we were able to get honestly. Couple solid pieces and good dudes heading back to Boston though. Boston fans will love Willy especially
Will you take Nolan Arenado for a stick of gum?
I know everyone on this subreddit basically knows what’s going on here but this is a weird way to list things out without noting the amount of team control left on the MLB guys. The Red Sox acquired:
* Two months of Matz
* One season of Gray
* Two years + option year of Contreras
* $28M over an undisclosed distribution period
The Cardinals have 5+ years of control over everyone they acquired, obviously.
Anyway, I think all the trades were pretty reasonable and thus the combined mix of them is also reasonable. The Cardinals did well to get some better prospects by paying down some of the costs of the departing veterans. The Red Sox got a good stretch run from Matz and Gray and Contreras are both valuable pieces on a contender. Pretty good all around.
Trades made sense for both teams. It’s hard seeing guys like Sonny and Willson moved, but they had no choice. If you’re going to rebuild, you can’t hang on to aging veterans for no reason.
Seems like we got decent prospects back, but I know nothing about the BOS farm system. I’d be curious what your thoughts are on the guys coming back our way. It’s exactly the trade a rebuilding team needs to make – proven MLB talent for some lottery tickets on minor leaguers, knowing you won’t hit on all of them.
I feel much better with Bloom running this than I would have with Mo. He would have brought back Mikolas for another 30 million a season or so, because there are some players he just can’t quit.
Not how this works at all. Matz isn’t on their team
I think if the Dick Fitts [the rotation], you ride it.
Nice
Need to account for the money that was also saved by trading away the vets.
Cardinals now have effectively ~$50M more dollars due to these trades.
My thought is that one of these teams is trying to complete, and the other is not.
Clarke and Fajardo are both good additions who are young with a ton of upside. Fitts will be in the middle of the rotation and Dobbins will be a backend rotation arm when he’s healthy. We shed quite a bit of salary and picked up a ton of team control so I am happy with the moves.
The goal for the cardinals was to shed salary and get back a bunch of prospects. They definitely shed salary and got back a pool of young players and a guy who can pitch long relief, plus they got literally anything for matz, which looked impossible for the longest time. In that regard, they did well and time will tell on prospects.
I think the Sox got two diminishing assets, tho Contreras is an upgrade at 1st by every measure when he is healthy. Bat speed still excellent at his age. I would be concerned about Gray. His metrics are confusing but he is starting to give up a lot of home runs and I don’t see how that improves at Fenway. He also had to be selectively started at home last year because he was so bad on the road. He’s also old. Red Sox did well as long as there is no appreciative decline which we will find out quickly.
16 comments
Cardinals A++++ Red Sox F
Dumped contracts and got a decent package of prospects. Mission accomplished.
I’m a Red Sox fan and wanted to see what are your takes on this series of trades between our teams.
I know it might be difficult to see your team getting disbanded like this after a few difficult years but as a Boston fan, we were in the exact same spot a few years ago and also with Chaim Bloom doing it and I can assure that this entire process will not be in vain.
When it comes to talent acquisition and drafting, there are very few people that do it better than Chaim and all this will result in the Cardinals getting the foundations to what will be another amazing decade like the one you guys had from 2006 and beyond.
I consider your fan base to be the most baseball smart of all teams and I’m sure you guys will be thrilled to see the fruits of all this. Good luck!
Will they take nado and maybe noot too, please?
Getting guys named Blaze Jordan and Dick Fitts make the trades worth it on gameday thread joke values alone
Surprised by the amount that we were able to get honestly. Couple solid pieces and good dudes heading back to Boston though. Boston fans will love Willy especially
Will you take Nolan Arenado for a stick of gum?
I know everyone on this subreddit basically knows what’s going on here but this is a weird way to list things out without noting the amount of team control left on the MLB guys. The Red Sox acquired:
* Two months of Matz
* One season of Gray
* Two years + option year of Contreras
* $28M over an undisclosed distribution period
The Cardinals have 5+ years of control over everyone they acquired, obviously.
Anyway, I think all the trades were pretty reasonable and thus the combined mix of them is also reasonable. The Cardinals did well to get some better prospects by paying down some of the costs of the departing veterans. The Red Sox got a good stretch run from Matz and Gray and Contreras are both valuable pieces on a contender. Pretty good all around.
Trades made sense for both teams. It’s hard seeing guys like Sonny and Willson moved, but they had no choice. If you’re going to rebuild, you can’t hang on to aging veterans for no reason.
Seems like we got decent prospects back, but I know nothing about the BOS farm system. I’d be curious what your thoughts are on the guys coming back our way. It’s exactly the trade a rebuilding team needs to make – proven MLB talent for some lottery tickets on minor leaguers, knowing you won’t hit on all of them.
I feel much better with Bloom running this than I would have with Mo. He would have brought back Mikolas for another 30 million a season or so, because there are some players he just can’t quit.
Not how this works at all. Matz isn’t on their team
I think if the Dick Fitts [the rotation], you ride it.
Nice
Need to account for the money that was also saved by trading away the vets.
Cardinals now have effectively ~$50M more dollars due to these trades.
My thought is that one of these teams is trying to complete, and the other is not.
Clarke and Fajardo are both good additions who are young with a ton of upside. Fitts will be in the middle of the rotation and Dobbins will be a backend rotation arm when he’s healthy. We shed quite a bit of salary and picked up a ton of team control so I am happy with the moves.
The goal for the cardinals was to shed salary and get back a bunch of prospects. They definitely shed salary and got back a pool of young players and a guy who can pitch long relief, plus they got literally anything for matz, which looked impossible for the longest time. In that regard, they did well and time will tell on prospects.
I think the Sox got two diminishing assets, tho Contreras is an upgrade at 1st by every measure when he is healthy. Bat speed still excellent at his age. I would be concerned about Gray. His metrics are confusing but he is starting to give up a lot of home runs and I don’t see how that improves at Fenway. He also had to be selectively started at home last year because he was so bad on the road. He’s also old. Red Sox did well as long as there is no appreciative decline which we will find out quickly.