I need the actual honest opinion from you magic fans ,who is the actual best player of thr team because this debate is becoming toxic to handle or maybe some people are scared to point it or something?
I need the actual honest opinion from you magic fans ,who is the actual best player of thr team because this debate is becoming toxic to handle or maybe some people are scared to point it or something?
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Just get everyone healthy and win damn games. Idc no more
I mean its pretty obvious franz is better. We just need a better Paolo (doesnt matter even if he is the 2nd option)
As of right now it’s Bane. Season long it’s Franz. Last 3 years it’s Paolo. It’s tough because Franz, Bane, Suggs and Dell have all had great, efficient games. While Paolo has had good stats in some games he’s not been efficient and those stats haven’t led to wins.
It’s obvious that the offense is still attempting to change. We’ve scored my points this season on average but clearly lack the discipline to maintain defense. Last night was a combination of our bad defense and what happens if our offense doesn’t work.
Paolo has the talent but it’s not show this whole season. I don’t understand why some fans are so opposed to criticism, especially our star player. we’re fortunate enough to even have “who’s the best” conversations this season. But it’s obvious when you watch the games that Paolo is just not clicking. From the first game of the season it’s been obvious that something is off. I hope he heats up and goes off soon, an no trading him or benching him is ridiculous.
We are all very aware. At least those of us with eyes are.
You guys are insane. Franz had a long run with key pieces of the team healthy while Paolo has been injured this season and last, particularly Suggs and Mo were both healthy. When Paolo came back, Suggs, Franz and Mo were all injured. He was literally playing with a skeleton crew. Comparing their records without each other being healthy in limited games, without acknowledging other injuries during those spans is misleading at best, completely dishonest at worst.
They are both max contract players, they are both equally important to the team. Right now Paolo is struggling a bit but getting better each game. My assumption is conditioning… I see a lot of his shots being short, and it seems like his effort is trailing off as the game goes on. That’s improving. He had a great first three quarters against Utah. I suspect, a few more weeks… maybe 10 games and he’s back to form.
Anyone bagging on Paolo now is conveniently forgetting what he has done for this team, particularly in the playoffs, and you don’t deserve nice things.
It’s not that Franz is crazy better but his impact on defense can’t be replicated. Franz could give us 15 points but be elite on the opponents best wing. That’s a huge part of his value.
Franz has more positive impact from the beginning.
Banchero was the more talked about guy, but he has never been the best player. He makes the offense slow and takes bad shots way to often.
Occam’s razor. Franz is a better player.
If I have a one off game where everything is going to shit and I need to throw the ball to someone to try and ISO carry an offence, give me Paolo.
If I want an enjoyable basketball team for an 82 game season where the best player is leading by example on both ends of the floor and trying to make others around him better, give me Franz.
Maybe Paolo is just built for the playoffs/big moments but the thing is that you can’t just be a big moment player when you have a max contract and high usage.
We might need Paolo when the lights are brightest, but frankly we wouldn’t even be in those big situations without Franz’s night to night effort and production.
It’s not exactly equal comparisons. If you wanna go through every game please tell us who was Franz playing with during those games and who has Paolo been playing with. We are significantly more hurt now that when Paolo was out, same thing when he came back last season Franz, Jalen and Moe were all out at one point, and it’s happening again with TDS, Jalen and Franz all being out from the original rotations.
I just don’t understand how the Magic had championship aspirations this yr and PB came into the season that out of shape.
I remember watching a video of him complaining about his rating being too low on 2k.
He said something along the lines of “really so I haven’t gotten better at all..but I gotta go out there and perform and it will change”
I also remember him being a rookie, a friend of mine worked at the arena. Told me Paolo would show up late and seemed lazy at times.
I didn’t want to believe that about our #1 pick, tbh still don’t but lack of effort at times was something on his pre-draft scouting report.
It’s disappointing to see guys around the league take leaps, even someone like Franz/AB meanwhile Paolo is regressing.
He also has a stretch like this every season where we are like “what’s wrong with Paolo”
Still only 23, still has time to improve, I just don’t know how I view him as a player anymore.
His play lately reminds me of Paolo talking about when Coach K got on him at Duke, telling him to “stop with the pretty boy Seattle bullshit”
Basically get your ass in the paint and dominate and stop trying to be Tmac.
I love Paolo, but it’s clear at this point that Franz is the most important and best player on this team. Suggs is second
Stfu
The stats don’t lie, but unfortunately, you’re not going to get anything but hate for pointing them out in this subreddit.
Brothers, we are at a crossroads with Paolo. I’m not ready to go left on him yet, but I do not like what I am seeing from him, from the stat padding to the lack of effort, to him being so freaking passive. Idk, man. All we can do for now is pray that the basketball gods wake him up.
I would highly suggest you all change your mindset. The constant attempts to rip apart whichever player isn’t your “favorite” to support your personal favorite player is an asinine way for fans to approach their team. You should be focused on what each player does well, what is their purpose on the team, how it all works together (theoretically, since we haven’t even really seen yet thanks to injuries). Don’t buy into the “who’s the best player” noise, especially from the media and particularly at the expense of one another. There’s no need for that nonsense from fans.
Franz is the better player. Paolo has more talent, however if he doesn’t make a leap this year P5’s upside will start shrinking
Franz Playoffs: 21.8/6.0/4.9 on 52.5% TS, -8 average
Paolo Playoffs: 28.0/8.5/4.1 on 53.7% TS, -8 average
I don’t really care that Franz is better against Brooklyn in October. Paolo needs to be more efficient in the regular season and both of them need to figure out how to contribute to winning basketball in the postseason.
Banchero doesn’t impact winning. I know people here have a hard time grasping this but stats don’t equal winning basketball. Banchero isn’t worth max money. He’s not close to that type of player
I value high on Franz and would like to see if we could get Paolo in the right system or get good value when we can, meaning potentially trade if we get a good deal$, then this idea was bashed so much on this subreddit like I am crazy.
Honestly all i remember is Franz selling in the playoffs. Paolo performs every playoffs game that’s the difference