Personally I don’t know how to feel. As a jets fan I’m grateful for Cohen being the owner of the team and trying to win but nothing seems to change. Same old drama seems to keep happening. Mcneil/Lindor for example. Maybe Sterns cleaning house is a good thing but I don’t want to sit through a rebuild to get there.

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  1. I think cleaning house will be good long term but we shouldn’t have let Alonso walk. The fan rage would be less intense if they kept him. 5 years to Alonso really would not have been the end of the world especially with Nimmo already gone.

  2. The worst thing that you can have is a front office or owner who constantly caves to fan pressure.

    The Mavs owner firing Nico Harrison is the only case where caving to fans was justified and that’s only because Nico made the worst process decision in modern sports history.

  3. Personally, Mets fan need to be patient and let Stearns clean house.

    The core didn’t accomplish their goals in the past 5 years. Every opportunity was given to the players. Fans/Players have to live with the consequences when they underperform. Mets want to win a WS at the end of the day.

  7. Cohen hired Stearns to do a job and he’s letting him do it. I can’t blame him for letting the guy do his job like you want the owner to do.

    I can blame Stearns though because I don’t agree with his moves dating back to last off season though

    An owner should hire guys and let them run the team only step in if it’s time for a change and considering it’s only 3 years into the Stearns era he shouldn’t do that yet no matter how much I hate him for letting Alonso/diaz go lol

  10. I’m really not *that* upset with everything that has transpired. We went all in with our previous core, and frankly, we didn’t get close to being a legit World Series team.

    2022 was a really well-balanced team that choked it away in the Wildcard series. 2024 was a complete fluke that I would have have zero confidence could be repeated. It really seems like 2023 and 2025 were more realistic performances based on the overall roster constructions.

    We can’t just keep running out the same team (with minor changes) and expecting a vastly different result. I think the unfortunate reality is that it was time for a change.

  14. “There’s still time to change that” or what? He’ll cry??? Fuck him make the team good money boy

  15. I’m fine with the argument that the Mets didn’t give the core of Alonso, Lindor, Nimmo, McNeil enough help to win a World Series, and I’m not going to be the whole “Well they didn’t get us a ring so screw them!” guy. But to say that they didn’t have enough help over the past SEVEN years in order to MAKE THE PLAYOFFS more than twice in that span is ludicrous to me. The Marlins made it the playoffs the same amount of times in that span.

    Blame Stearns for the pitching last year, fine. But what is the excuse for the 5 years prior to Stearns coming here? For the years they had Jacob deGrom putting up historical numbers? The years they were all in their prime?

    In the 5 years before Stearns even took over, this “core” had ONE playoff appearance, a wild card, where they got swept by San Diego after blowing the division and 1st round bye, and this was during their prime years!

    Then Stearns takes over, year 1, get to the NLCS in a year when Pete was awful, Nimmo had a .720 OPS, and Diaz lost the closer role and got suspended for sticky stuff.

    Blame the pitching for last year, fine. But the offense was not blameless. 0-70 in comeback situations is actually worse than our pitching staff. This group that showed resilience previously and would fight back like the game in Toronto down 9 runs, just gave up and died whenever they were losing this year.

    These guys had their run. They had many different chances to not win the World Series, but just make a fuckin Wild Card. They did it twice.

  16. Better to turn it toward players who under-achieved and let down the fan base. At least Cohen moves on from dead wood. Screw fan-player loyalty. Players are meat. Cut ’em up, eat ’em, and discard the leftovers when the bone is dry.

  17. I really didn’t appreciate how he called some of our fans idiots, even if they are.

  18. My guess is that we go into next year with room for the kids to play.

    I don’t mind if we grow the next team in place. May as well get some benefit from building the best farm system in baseball .

    They can always add in season of necessary.

    People getting shitty at Steve Cohen is lmao bad, but not unexpected. The head scratching point of it all is why would any Met fan feel entitled to success? We should be grateful we actually have an owner willing to spend. That’s all he can do :shrug: (unless he has a mean uppercut swing and a 1b glove I guess)

  19. We need to get back to the old ways of doing things and trade PCH for Baez, sign some aging Pitchers for 40 million and win a World Series.

    Oh wait, that didn’t work.

    Maybe let’s try building a team the right way and give Stearns some time. Already tried to buy a World Series and it failed spectacularly.

    Not sure why the fans are insisting that they be lied to again by keeping the failed experiment going. Be thankful we have a GM willing to admit the mistakes of the past and not waste more time hoping for better results from a team that finished 13 games behind the Phillies.

  20. 1,000% ^^ Baseball isn’t always pretty, and it doesn’t always feel good, but getting this upset with Cohen, especially this early in the offseason, is jumping the gun a bit. Still a lot of moves that can and should be made.

    Every Mets fan who wants to call Cohen “cheap” should have to post it in the Pirates or Athletics subs and let those fans chew them out for complaining about our situation. The team’s struggles on the field certainly have not been due to lack of commitment from ownership.

    Effectiveness of the FO is still something that needs to be proven, but this core has had multiple opportunities, has shown that it’s not working, and are not getting any younger. Hate to see them go, but this rebuild was inevitable with the lack of long-term success they have had.

  21. If shit keeps going down the tubes Stearns can catch the heat for a year or two more in my opinion. After that I would turn on Steve if he continues to allow Stearns to throw it away.

  23. I’m unhappy that they ditched my favorite players and I blame the 2025 collapse mainly on the way Stearns chose to build a pitching staff. But he gets at least one more year to prove that he can build a winner in New York.

  25. Mets fans who are emotionally attached to a group of players who had a total of two playoff appearances is the definition of loser mentality.

    We had arguably our worst collapse in franchise history yet nobody wants to make any drastic changes?

    Not gonna say I trust Stearns and his player selection methods after how bad he was last season, but moving away from an aging “core” seems to be the right move if you ask me.

  26. Alright guys, Steve’s heard your complaints and is going to sell the team.

    It’ll be a joint ownership between James Dolan and Woody Johnson. Jeff Wilpon will be back as PoBO, and Brick Johnson will be GM.

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