Schwarber received a five-year, $150 million from Phillies, but he was in such demand, that even the Pittsburgh Pirates and Cincinnati Reds were in serious pursuit, with the Reds even willing to offer more until Schwarber told them it wasn’t necessary.

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  1. Wait the Reds were gonna offer MORE than 150 mil? That’s actually wild considering their usual budget. Schwarber basically saved them from themselves lmao

  2. Dude wants to break the playoff home run record. No chance that would happen in cincinnati

  3. He doesn’t want the back-end of his own contract to hinder his hometown team, what a guy

  4. I think fans tend to forget that “final offers” aren’t really as accurate as they get reported.

    Free agency isn’t like buying a house where you put in your best offer and let the guy choose which one he wants. It’s an active negotiation and teams come in and drop off at different points.

    Reds were hammered for a “final offer” of 5/$125m when the signed deal was 5/$150m. Turns out, they just were dropped out earlier in the negotiations even if they were willing to go higher.

  5. It was previously reported Reds offered 5/125.

    So is the more in question more than that or more than the Phillies 5/150?

  6. WTF, that was really all they had to say on that subject. I expected to read more when clicking the link, but that was literally all they had to say. No elaboration or anything. So lazy.

  7. I don’t believe this for once second. Castellini is trying to save his ass with this blatant lie

  8. I keep telling Reds fans that it takes more than simple money to attract talented free agents and they keep not believing me.

    Who wants to play (or live) in this market and for a fan base that will never let today’s player escape the shadow of 50 years ago?

  9. Why did you put it in quotes? It’s not in quotes in the article. Nightengale said it wasn’t necessary, not Schwarber.

  10. There does need to be guardrails for the top and bottom of spenders but it doesn’t change the fact that top free agents have about 10-15 teams on their shit list. The top free agents don’t take a lot of team’s money all that seriously. Reds haven’t been close since the early 90s outside of a few Dusty Baker years and fire sale in 2021-22. Those late 10s years with Votto were never supplemented. Castellanos might get released this season but when he was good, he had major issues with Reds ownership. Pirates getting O’Hearn was a name but not a top guy and still hasn’t signed someone for more than a few years. Marlins are going to have to do a lot of work with their lack of stability over decades. White Sox after they change ownership, is going to have to prove and over pay a couple times. Nationals haven’t done anything since 2019 and probably not in good standing.

    There does need to be a lockout to fix the system but don’t be surprised if the same teams continue to struggle signing good players even after payroll reform. It’s not the fans or the city but the ownership in a lot of these places. Would you want to work in a place where you hate your boss? The nicest guy in baseball can still turn these teams down.

  11. The salary didn’t matter, he just wants to be the face of Wawa instead the face of Skyline Chili. 

  12. MLB needs relegation for the bottom team in each league if bottom two teams in each league with no revenue sharing if you are stuck down there for more then two years.

  13. Schwarber was so desperate to go back to a Phillies team that’s about to implode? Their window is all but closed and Dombrowski seems like he’s content to run it back yet again

  14. Lol, we always hear about players using teams to drive up their price, and this is as close to a concrete example as we’ve heard.

  15. I want to know who the source is, because this sounds like one of those bullshit things where Schwarber can have people leak it and look better for turning down money, and then shit like the Reds/Pirates get to pretend they were going to actually offer the money to not seem like cheap bastards.

  16. I mean this is kind of a nothing burger, right? No one ever said the Reds lost the bidding war.

  17. if the other numbers that came out when Schwarber signed were correct the reds offer wasn’t even close to what other teams were offering. they were something in the 120 range for the same years… if other teams were opening 20M higher they clearly weren’t a serious offer so why would you entertain further conversations after that?

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