[Johnson] Canucks’ Jim Rutherford: ‘We’re open to conversations on all players’

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  1. I’ll save yall the time:

    He estimates he can do the rebuild in 2-3 years, wants to, and are taking calls on people as they have been this whole time.

    Whole article is a big nothing burger.

  2. “When we started the process … the intent at the start was to not get into any core player. It may very well end up staying that way,” he said. “But it certainly would not make any sense for Patrik (Allvin) to not listen to anybody.”

  3. *“We may end up saying no to offers, certainly, but we’re not going to say no to having conversations about any player. This is about improving this team without taking shortcuts,” Rutherford went on.*

    *When he says shortcuts, he means holding discipline, not taking side tours on trades or signings that don’t have the long-term in mind.*

    *“That’s trying to do it too quickly. We’ve got to have the patience of living through where we are presently,” he explained. “Being cautious in what is being moved and what is the return. Continue to stick to either getting young players, 25 or younger, or getting draft picks.*

    A new dawn is upon us.

  4. They always have been in a sense.

    You always listen then say no if that’s the case

  5. While I don’t think there’s anything groundbreaking in here, I do think it’s somewhat interesting that the article starts by mentioning the team is out of their “soft-launch” of the rebuild.

    Sort of suggests there’s something to the idea that management has been slowly thumbing the scale to get ownership on board with an actual rebuild. Which honestly isn’t out of line with how they talked when they first came in here.

    Rutherford is correct that with enough proactive moves, you can have a team on the upswing in 2-3 years rather than 6+. But you need to be smart, and aggressive. Still waiting to see that manifest right now.

  6. *My sober analysis and reading between the lines:*

    # GET IN HERE!!! BIG JIMMY FINALLY SOLVED FRANCESCO’S MYSTERY PUZZLE AND SAID HIS NAME BACKWARDS IN THE WOODS UNDER A FULL MOON, REBUILD IS ON. NOTHING STOPPING US NOW. FIRING UP THE M1 ABRAMS TOKYO DRIFT STYLE UP AND DOWN ABBOTT STREET. PATRIK ALLVIN GOT AQUALINI IN A SLEEPER HOLD AND HAS HIM TIED UP IN THE ZAMBONI HOT WATER RESIVOIR. WE’RE GOING TO DRAFT STUDS AFTER STUD AND FILL OUT THE REST OF THE ROSTER WITH BOSTON DYNAMICS ROBOTS TRAINED ON VANCOUVER TITANS OVERWATCH AIM DATA.

    # CUP BY 2032 AT THE VERY LATEST. ITS A LOCK.

    ![gif](giphy|RlsNraZFFs6pa)

  7. I’m convinced most of the loudest voices on this subreddit just hate this team, and no matter what the message is, they’ll just be cynical.

    The Foote/Petey scrums from yesterday with two opposite tones both being met with anger and bitching just kind of cements that idea.

    This was a completely fine interview, with little to no actual insight but a clear indication what direction discussions are going and it’s still just not enough. Pick up an EA game if you want a full tear down rebuild because navigating the current NHL with the owner we have and the media that circles it involves a lot nuance.

  8. >“If we can just keep adding to young assets, hopefully we can do this in two or three years. It’s not an easy process, we have to be very methodical,” he said. “You can’t lose patience because you’re losing some games.”

    I think this quote is the most important from the article. I’ve seen frequently claims that we will try to short-cut this, and turn the team around in 2-3 years. Based on this quote it seems management understands 2-3 years is a best case scenario.

    Another quote which is relevant

    >”I would like to think based on the number of young players that we have, that we’ve been able to pick up over the last few years, with high ceiling, that this rebuild can take two or three years, not six to 10.”

    This sets the upper limit on the rebuild as 6 years which is completely reasonable. I don’t think anyone is suggesting a 6+ year rebuild.

    This tells me the management team expects the rebuild to take 3-5 years. It can take 2 years if everything hits, and we end up on the San Jose Sharks path. Most likely outcome is 3-4 years until the team is moving into the next phase of building a contender.

    This paints a much better picture than the 2-3 hybrid retool the media has been beating us over the head with.

  9. Any accountability for signing the same players they are trying to get rid of now? Less gambling, better planning please

  10. A couple ideas I’ve been throwing around:

    **Montreal**
    – Evander Kane

    **Vancouver**
    – Patrick Laine (salary dump)
    – Draft Pick/Prospect

    **Colorado**
    – Jake DeBrusk

    **Vancouver**
    – Sam Girard (Salary dump/trade chip)
    – Draft Pick/Prospect

    **LAK**
    – EP40

    **Vancouver**
    – Quinton Byfield 
    – Draft Pick/Prospect

  11. If you MUST ride out this season with Foote, I kinda get it. But they need to find a better coach in the off-season who is better at working with kids and developing them.

    They eventually tuned him out, but Travis Green was really good at this. All the young players progressed over time. Compared to Foote, where (with a roster filled with way more veterans) the young players have almost all regressed.

    Their current system is terrible and nonsensical. Not to mention the plethora of other moves Adam has done that don’t make any sense.

  12. There’s always an ulterior motive to these Rutherford interviews as we learned with the Hughes thing last year.

    The ulterior motive to this one was that JR is home with a cold and he doesn’t want other teams calling him for trades, please call Allvin instead 😂

  13. I’m going to call this now and I’m ready for the downloads. Rutherford and Allvin are going to get rid of most of our top players and bring in some young talent, rightfully so. That’s what a rebuild is. But then ownership is going to fire them and hire somebody new, and then we’ll have some success. Then ownership will tell us all how Rutherford and Allvin were horrible for the team and they didn’t know what they were doing, but this new person does and will lead us to the promised land.

  14. A strong rebuild includes drafting/trading for 4-5 players who are difference makers!
    Until that happens, all I see is picking up others retreads

  15. “that this rebuild can take two or three years, not six to 10”

    So essentially a retool.

  16. They have said that they don’t want to get rid of all the vets right away, but to me it makes sense to get rid of most/all of them spread out over the next few years. Sell 2-3 vets per year depending on who has value. 

  17. The part were he says “build a championship caliber team” should not be overlooked. Not this “make the playoffs, meaningful games in march” BS finally.

  18. Finally, what has been obvious to us for years, is now finally obvious to those in control. Nice.

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