The CJ discourse this off season is going to be a mess. . Texans fans don’t have to love his playoff performance, but sooner or later we’ll have to rally around 7 again

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  1. I was telling my friends, it just sucks cause CJ took so much unwarranted hate from both NFL fans and Texans fans in the regular season despite playing pretty solid in a new system. He deserves the criticism he will get for these playoffs but it’s annoying how everyone’s gonna act like CJ was bottom 5 all season and there was nothing good to take from his year that was actually better than 24 in almost every metric, because of two games

  2. I understand CJ had some garbage performances at the end of the season, but how can we give up on him so easily knowing how much talent he has and that which we have seen. The offensive line was better as this season progressed I’ll admit, but that most of the time required an extra lineman or blocking tight end. We’ve seen how not having an offensive line destroys players on this team, look back to David Carr. People are giving up on 7 too early, especially given all of the other shortcomings of this offense

  3. We’ll probably rally around him when the inevitable offseason optimism hits, but for now people are angry, disappointed, and frustrated

  4. The pile on turns into the anti-pile on, which then reverts back to an even bigger pile on because the narrative war must be fought, etc. Tbh I think a performance like that warrants some sustained scrutiny and the discourse isn’t happening just because of one game.

  5. Hes left a bad taste in everyone’s mouth until he has another good game at some point. Until then the haters will hate and once he plays well once the believers will post their thing. This wont end Until hes gone. Thats how fans are.

  6. I was upset Sunday for sure but after sleeping on it what exactly are we gonna do? Give up on a 2nd overall pick QB after his 3rd year? Texans are gonna take a step back and see how to help him grow. Jags and Chargers haven’t given up on their good but flawed QBs. I don’t see why Texans should give up on CJ either.

  7. What do you mean by “rally around him”?
    If you mean if we’ll still support the team if they keep him at QB1? Yes, of course the vast majority of us will. He won’t be booed at the home opener and people will clamor for his signatures at the training camp and cheer him on. This 100% is going to happen.

    But when it comes to online discourse then he said that he didn’t read fans opinions online and didn’t care about the “outside noise”. His social media accounts are run by other people.
    Unlike some other players who check social media and name search it literally doesn’t matter what we say here, it’s not going to hurt his feelings.

  8. Who gives a shit about discourse? It’s all noise. Only thing that matters is what happens inside the building with players and staff. And fuck Christian Gonzalez, dude shouldn’t have been playing, wouldn’t be surprised if it comes out later rules were broken to get him on the field.

  9. Wait… what reply did Christian Gonzalez like? Was it one clowning Stroud or one defending him?

  11. Why do we have to rally around him? It’s been constant disappointment before him and it’s the same thing with him.

    He absolutely choked this season

  13. No. No they don’t.

    He has failed to live up to the expectations he set and our coaches and franchise rallied behind.

    He has led lackluster offenses for two seasons now, and the most recent was inconsistent the entire year. Our defense got us in the playoffs and won us a game. Our defense is the only reason fans arent a lot angrier and more negative.

    We need to stop the narrative that he has been performing up to expectations and just bombed in the playoffs. It doesn’t do anything to help his cause and just creates further discourse.

    Most fans will get over the playoffs, but I imagine there wont be people rallying around him until he proves himself. Even then it needs to be consistent.

  14. The one thing that is extremely obvious at this point is that CJ has no mental toughness whatsoever. The *second* something goes wrong you see it on his face. He completely panics and never recovers.

    The total eye-opening moment for me was actually watching the “Demeco micced-up” video for the game against the Steelers. Demeco was hyping guys up left and right and literally everyone on the team was feeding the energy right back EXCEPT for CJ. CJ was terrified. Completely in his own head.

    He will never be better than this if he can’t figure out how to not have his psyche crumble to dust at the slightest hint of adversity.

    I want him to do well. I want him to be the guy, but that roadblock is huge.

  16. I don’t have to rally around 7 at all as a Texans fan. 7 needs to show me that he deserves my support. He has let me down in a major way and right now I don’t think he has what it takes to get us there. Prove me wrong.

  17. What war? Cj is not the franchise guy. He’s proved that. He’s an average mid tier qb nothing more nothing less

  18. The problem with him is he’s not a leader. He’s always down about something and I don’t like how he says Texans fans will like him one day and hate him the next we’ve loved him for 3 season it’s not our fault you failed us

  19. I need 6 months before I can expend more energy thinking about how ass our playoff offense was

  20. How actually investing in the offense instead of TEMU shopping? Texans haven’t taken a RB above the 4th round since Forman (3rd) in 2017 and a TE since Warring (3rd) 2019, both bust. 1st round OL picks Howard and Green (bust) since 2019. 2nd round OL picks have mainly been bust except for Ersery. No 1st round WRs since Fuller (2016). No big time Oline Free Agent signing/trade (to acquire a lineman) in (Mason was over the hill) in 10 years. WR/TE is was Diggs and Schultz, with Diggs lasting 8 games. RB Mixon was GREAT, but he missed the entire 2nd season. How about helping a brother out?

  22. Yeah it’s sad how fast people just instantly turn on people these days. Like these guys aren’t human and can’t make mistakes in high pressure situations. I understand all the arguments but good lord I’m sick of people complaining and just blaming one person and not considering how the circumstances influence the outcome. If he doesn’t turn out to be the guy, then so be it but I’ll decide after I see how we do next season

  23. I was a big Stroud supporter. I always talked about him being young and said he will bounce back. I acknowledged his decline in performances the last two years but never gave up on him. Blamed most of it on the OC and O line.

    After those 2 playoffs games, I am out on Stroud. I am a Texans fan, not a Stroud fan. I will support the team no matter who is at QB, but I would prefer it not be him. That was abysmal QB play. He single handedly lost us the game and the chance to go to an AFC ship for the first time ever. Josh Allen was completely distraught, CJ says “this is not the end of CJ Stroud”.

  24. Should fans harass and demean him in real life and on social media? Hell no

    And I definitely don’t want what happened to Schuab to happen to CJ because of all of this.

    But constructive and fair criticism is warranted. And he needs to earn a rally behind him.

  25. Im expecting either his first 4000 yard season since 2023 with 28+ touchdowns or hes benched before week 8. He cost us a conference finals appearance, only way he can be forgiven is by getting us to one. I am very very cautiously optimistic

  26. The internet is not where you go for civil discourse. Things will chill. Just gotta make sure you don’t get hooked by the, “oh, so you think…” bait.

  28. at what point do we hold the offense to the same standard as the defense when it comes to SWARM mentality. and if QB doesnt have SWARM factor then no one on the offense will. its a trickle down.

  30. Internet going to kill him every bad game , every pick and every loss. He just gotta lock in and ball I’m with him even though he was ass, i know it’s something there

  31. The playoff performance will always be in your head. No matter how well he plays going forward, we’ll always be concerned he could blow up anytime.

  33. CJ has no good will left in Houston

    Unless the teams plans on having the Colts lose their starting quarterback again, it needs to start planning for a post-Stroud era

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