Thanks for the genius reporting CJ!

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  1. They weren’t really even that good to begin with. Their high end talent masked a lot of their problems which were eventually exposed in the playoffs. We’ve overrated this team for a long time.

  2. I’m not happy about it, but it’s a good tweet to really drive home a point. Tree must go

  3. It’s insane how badly we fumbled our only chance to get a cup. Now we have to stay in limbo land for at least 2 years if our first ends up top 5. So can’t really do a rebuild.

    I hate Treliving.

  4. Forgive my possibly stupidity as I’m quite tired and not all there, but does this mean they’ve effectively lost 29 fewer games than last season? Or will at this rate?

    Whatever. Doesn’t really matter. Definite regression.

  5. And multiple teams that were in the lottery last year are now leading the league. The Leafs season has been a dumpster fire but everyone around the team acting like it’s shocking they have fallen off and other teams have gotten better is a bit much.

  6. Def think its more the other teams catching up than anything, and we’ve been mostly stagnant (and obv. this year slipped). Teams like Detroit and Montreal and Buffalo would be challenging us regardless this year. The injuries also haven’t helped.

  7. This is actually a crazy stat that I’ve not seen reported anywhere. Not sure what the shot at CJ is about.

  8. I mean, yeah. They’re bad. I doubt they have the grapes to do a proper rebuild, so maybe it’ll be a re-tooling.

    Or Tre will trade Cowan and whatever remaining picks they have for a 35 year-old d-man.

  9. Remember the leafs also finished 4th in the league that year. Those leafs teams got unlucky and probably deserved a better fate. It kinda sucks because if you go back and look at those 2021-2022 and 2022-2023 teams they were getting better. Should’ve been Shanny instead of Dubas in the 2023 offseason.

  10. The players are the problem. The coach is the problem. The general manager is the problem. The ownership is the problem. The media is the problem. The fans are the problem. We are the problem.

  11. Well if 5-15 years of tanking is what it took the redwings, sabres, sens to be better than the leafs once in 10 years. I mean you didn’t fall to far. If anything the lightning, bruins and leafs did pretty good for short rebuilds over the last decade.

    Leafs was a fringe playoff team since what the 2010s? Tanked for 2 years and immediately went playoff bound for almost a decade is pretty impressive.

    The wings have been tanking for what 7 years in a playoff drought for like a decade.

  12. Sort of a combination of a number of things.

    Toronto’s development system / prospect pool is rather empty and has been for some time. To top it off their drafting / development record when it comes to key prospect areas (defense and centres) is rather terrible in the last 15 years. So as a result the current roster has a lot of fill in pieces and not a lot of development ‘graduates’.

    Then of course their is the loss of Marner … they tried to cover that production loss via getting more forwards with that cap space and it didn’t really work out so well.

    Toronto has for a long time had a defending problem (15+ years) … how they play in front of their goalies. It’s why they are constantly having to replace goalies … because they play like garbage far too often in front of their goalies and wear them out, replace them, then after a season or two wear out the new goalie. It’s also why the team hasn’t had a really deep playoff run … because other teams realize how to take advantage of Toronto’s sloppy defensive play in the playoffs and can capitalize on their mistakes time and time again. To top it off … the team has sucked at developing defenseman so they are forced to finding defenseman ‘plugs’ via free agency, trade and waivers.

  13. Man the future was so bright 10 years ago, I literally can’t imagine a worse way things could have gone, we were on the cusp of success but we just couldn’t stop being the laughs for 1 damn season

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