[Stavenhagen | The Athletic] Tigers, Tarik Skubal square off in precedent-setting arbitration hearing Wednesday

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  2. Can’t wait for the rest of the MLB’s fans to react to how absurd it is that he didn’t win this case and how cheap we are.

    Scott Boras really is a genius. Fuck that guy.

  3. Starting pitching is expensive. Back to back Cy Youngs are expensiver. Harris and Illitch created this shitty, cheap team culture

  7. Skubal deserves it. Basically everybody fighting the offer in arb does. The arb system systematically underpays.

    One plus is that I don’t think any of the hearing is going to be the Tigers arguing that he isn’t actually that good. It’s all going to be about how the process sets comps and weights precedent.

  8. I say this full believing Skubs deserves to win the hearing and get all the money he wants. But do you know how out of control the players and their agents have to get for me to side with the owners? Boras refused to negotiate with the tigers because he’s trying to steer Skubal out of Detroit.

    There has to be a better system put in place that can both get players paid earlier and help keep stars in their markets for the long term. NBA players get to restricted free agency in their early 20s and unrestricted before they turn 30 most cases. Put in a soft cap and have a max contact based on that cap. Let the incumbent team offer more years to try to keep players in their markets

  10. Every MLB owner and agent is watching this one. But particularly Paul Skenes and the Pirates have their popcorn out.

    If back to back cy young awards create a special event where the arbitrators believe Skubal has earned a $22M salary increase in his Arb3 year. Then if Skenes wins the Cy young again this…going to be interesting to see the new Arb1 precedent.

    I know the Tigers wanted to negotiate and Boras just said no. Not fully sure why the Tigers submitted the $19M arb side…unless they thought Boras would come to the table or were just pissed off.

    While the ask by Boras in this case is record breaking and sets a whole new precedent. It’s really hard to imagine the arbitrators siding with the Tigers and the $19M ask. Especailly, when the arbitrators can hang their hat on this is a special situations with someone having back to back cy youngs.

  11. The big issue with this I think is Scott’s offer. Considering the rules of arbitration and fact that the entire player base/salary can be used in arbitration, it just seems the offer is far too low for any arbitrator to grant. Will he interesting.

    It kind of reminds me of how Scott bitched the ERod trade deadline and his no trade clause. It was like he didn’t understand how a no trade clause works. Kind of get the feeling that he had not idea about the fact because of Skubal service time, boras can use all non arbitration players as comparison points for his $32 mill filing

  12. I just want to watch baseball this season without it coming up every fucking game.

    You don’t hate the business end of it enough.

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