This post just got removed from r/nba subreddit, probably for getting downvoted to the depths of hell. Mind you, for no other reason than suggesting that tanking is a symptom of the unfair advantages possessed by big market teams.

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  1. Who cares what r/nba thinks. They told us for years that Gobert sucks only for other fans to come around when he was traded to Minnesota. They’re casuals

  2. Thanks for saving me the time lol. I was going to write something incredibly similar and I agree with what you’re saying

  3. Dude this is gonna be a huge hot take but tanking is so lame

    They need to add like 2 relegation teams with the G-league (just imagine if they didn’t also own g league teams, no one would tank and no team would be artificially bad, and the talent pool would be way more diluted as contracts get bigger in the g league, and smaller markets have a chance. I’m basically a genius)

  4. Had someone on IG argue with me that Utah had “no right” to sit players in the fourth quarter and how the Jazz should try their hardest even if it means OKC gets the pick.

    I’m convinced what people are really saying is we don’t want to see AJ or Boozer in Utah, Sacramento, etc

  5. I just read this not too long ago I put in all the teams that tanked to get their stars I just don’t get why we cant have nice things

  6. What nobody talks about is how you don’t get big name free agents anymore. Like it just isn’t a thing. Can you name the last one? Teams want to at least get something out of a player on their way out so they just get traded in the last year of their contract. Makes building a roster that much harder.

  7. Big market is an advantage. But in magnitude it’s like the 7th most important factor to be a winning team. It is not the “only” way for the Jazz to compete.

    So many other more important factors like team culture, player development, communities support their stars instead of antagonize them (Donovan Mitchell fiasco), reputation, good scouting/drafting etc.

    Players famously dislike playing in UT. Many reports of racism throughout the decades. Jazz tank a lot. The current prolonged tank perpetuates losing culture. Congressmen have told Donovan Mitchell to shut up and dribble, half the comments on his socials during his Jazz era are “disappointed” shittalking jazz fans. We are a revolving door of coaches. Weve whiffed on many early picks in drafts that other small market teams drafted MVP caliber players.

    Meanwhile in the last decade- Denver, Milwaukee, OKC, Cleveland, Toronto have all won chips. Indiana will be right in the mix when Hali is back. Minnesota, San Antonio, and Detroit are knocking on the door. All small market teams that are competitive not bc they tanked. But for a host of other reasons.

    I’d argue that of those teams, only SA got lucky via draft odds but they’ve been a perennial winning franchise well before Wemby. OKC might be an all time dynasty and they just made smart trades, drafted well, and developed talent. They had like 2 losing seasons in between multiple winning eras (KD, PG, and Shai eras) and did not need to tank.

  8. I appreciate you posting that to r/nba. You expressed things well, clearly, without the foaming at the mouth emotional arguments people try to make their points with 98% of the time. Many saw it before it was deleted and that’s important.

    And yes, r/nba is garbage.

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